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Submitted by NYC_Gamer 269d ago | news

Xbox Boss: A Halo 2 Remake Would Have to 'Nail' Multiplayer

Speaking to IGN during the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco last week, Microsoft Game Studios boss Phil Spencer described what would be the most important feature to him in a hypothetical Halo 2 Anniversary release for Xbox One. (Game Developers Conference, Halo 2 Anniversary, Phil Spencer, Xbox One)

-Foxtrot  +   269d ago
Thing if though if your going to have online with Halo 2 HD then you have to make it JUST LIKE Halo 2 online back when we didn't have silly gimmicks like load outs, abilities, specializations etc

No point making it like the newer games when you have Halo 5 coming out round the conner.
Gozer  +   269d ago
I agree. I wouldn't want them to change Halo 2s MP. Halo 2 arguably had the best MP of the series.
DawnOfDon  +   269d ago
Exactly just update graphics and fix some problems that it had back in the day and keep the rest the exact same
tokugawa  +   269d ago
chuck it on azure with the same set-up as titanfall "choose a datacentre" and i will be all over it day 1
Gozer  +   269d ago
@tokugawa
Hell yeah!!!Halo 2+dedicated servers would be sweet. Halo 2 on Xbox suffered because of P2P servers. Glad I have an X1+Live, cant beat those deddies.
darthv72  +   269d ago
halo 2 anniversary edition for 360 please. then they can make a halo 3 anniversary edition for the xb1.

Make it have the same visual style of CE:AE that lets you switch back and forth but keep the solid MP of the original H2.
user9597082  +   269d ago
If they added forge mode, I wouldn't complain though.
Means more options.
OpieWinston  +   269d ago
Chances are Darth they'll release Halo 2 Anniversary for X1..But maybe for 360 as well...Just makes more sense for X1 since they promised everyone that the "Halo Journey begins 2014" and Halo 2 Anniversary would hit this year and then Halo 5 next year.

Also helps them ship lots of X1s.

Halo is what sold Xbox

Halo 2 is the best Halo MP in the franchise

People would shell out 499 for that experience again...Dedicated Servers + LAN Parties.

GG X1 wins back NA in a heart beat. Not even joking, I loved the times when I'd invite some friends over with Xboxs and hook up Halo CE or 2 and have tournaments. Phil Spencer understands that Halo CE Anniversary was rushed and 2 wouldn't suffer the same problem.
BakPAin  +   269d ago
@tokugawa,

Theres no doubt in my mind that Halo 2 will be on Azure!
Shadonic  +   269d ago
I still have nightmares of the Halo 4 population decline due to the MP . It was like the remaining fans started to act like the the townspeople in Majora's mask, saying everything's alright even though it was breaking down right in front of us
xDHAV0K24x  +   269d ago
COD took the population too
Dannyh  +   269d ago
I loved the halo 4 single player but not the mp
Evilsnuggle  +   269d ago
This is the world worst kept secret. Phil Spencer I'm not saying that there's a halo 2 HD but if it was;-);-) ;-)
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OpieWinston  +   269d ago
I ain't complaining...Obviously they know that generating some hype for the game is crucial to getting people pumped and ready for E3 when they blow us away with updated textures and an untouched MP experience.
Allsystemgamer  +   269d ago
I'm reluctant to buy a one but if this released THE SAME as halo 2 with updated graphics then I would buy a one.

Not redone. Just a new coat of paint and fully optimized. The gameplay was already near perfect.

On that note if they added the additional content they added to halo 2 PC (rocket hog, 15 extra maps, map editor) then I'd preorder it and buy a one right now.
ArtificiallyYours  +   269d ago
well, then let's just hope the game-breaking exploits won't be used over and over again by illicit modders.
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T2  +   269d ago
This. Why would you change Halo 2 mp???!!
RAAMzilla  +   269d ago
I agree.

Example: I'm a huge fan of the Gears of War series and occasionally tout the first one as the best for MP. Quite a number of 'HD Gears of War Anniversary remake' ideas have popped up both on the official forums and the internet alike, but have never really had My backing.

Point: After making so many more entries in a series, You can't really trust a development team not to add stupid, unneeded garbage in a remake.
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DeathOfTheFanBoy  +   268d ago
I think it's definatley coming and I also think it will be a 360 exclusive, they will probably bundle the original trilogy down the line (halo3's 10 year anniversary) for xb1.

And yes it should be kept the way people remember it imo.

Also the reason I say 360 exclusive is because it's been confirmed several times Halo 5 is coming to xb1 this year, so I don't think it makes sense to release 2 halo games side by side on the same platform... unless they plan on giving it away with the Halo 5 ultra meg amazing awesome give me all your money edition.
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TheDarpaChief  +   269d ago
Seems plausible enough. It would be a good game to add to xbones library
anesthesique  +   269d ago
I don't think the Halo 2 remake will have multiplayer at all, co-op campaign at most. Lets not forget Halo 5 is coming out in a year and half tops. Too expensive and would require much effort to remake H2s MP for just one year lifespan.
mhunterjr  +   269d ago
When the head guy says a halo 2 remake would 'need to nail multiplayer' how can you come to the conclusion that their would be no multiplayer at all?
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anesthesique  +   269d ago
Frankly? Because I don't really trust what the "head" guys say.

In my opinion if 343 wants to make a big flashy entrance to next gen, its gonna be with what new they can bring to the table and franchise, introduce next gen to the multiplayer, not remake a good old one. Their chips are on next gen, there is no doubt about that.

"If there were something called Halo 2 Anniversary," he concluded, "I think the multiplayer would have to be fantastic."

Plus, seems to me he is just speculating here. Could be talking simply about co-op as he talks about Halo Anniversary multuplayer but there was none, just co-op.
mhunterjr  +   269d ago
Wait a second. Halo2's campaign was generally hated, and the multiplayer was generally loved. But you think it's more likely that the xbox head was teasing a multiplayer mode, knowing all along that when it releases it will only feature a campaign that no one liked. I really don't see the logic.

343 doesn't develop these anniversary games, so there's no way bring halo2 mp to xb1 would get in their way. If anything, it would get people more excited for the eventual releases of Halo5.

PS Spencer doesn't have to 'speculate' ... He knows exactly what's being developed.

@jdaboss I remember vividly why people hated the halo2 campaign. In addition to the cliff hanger, people hated playing as the arbiter, we're let down by the absence of the E3 demo level, and still had repetitive level designs... I didn't mind the campaign, but it's pretty sill to think that a halo2 anniversary game would be campaign only, given its reception.
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jdaboss  +   269d ago
erm.. people "hated" Halo 2 because it was such a bad cliff hanger that left everyone pretty much hanging for another 5 years.
Dannyh  +   269d ago
Most people just hated the way Halo 2 ended
Alsybub  +   268d ago
The campaign was far too linear compared to Halo. It certainly didn't grip me the way that the first game did and that was the general consensus at the time.

The amazing multiplayer more than made up for it.

I would love to see Halo 2 multiplayer with Azure, the return of some of the Halo maps and perhaps some maps expanded with 32 player.
Summons75  +   269d ago
Yeah basically but I would bet a lot of people who complain and cry because of the lack of loadouts.

A lot of good memories with the Halo 2 online, I don't think they would be able to ever recreate it without some influence from modern gaming. A remake of all the maps (DLC maps included) would be absolutely amazing, super jumps and ways out of the map included.
WeAreLegion  +   269d ago
Step 1: Make it prettier

Step 2: Stop

It's pretty simple, really...
alexkoepp  +   269d ago
Agreed, the old/updated graphics with the h:CE anniversary edition was awesome, just do that again, and include multiplayer this time around.
anesthesique  +   269d ago
Couldn't agree more! Altough I have to say I'm not a huge fan of remakes. Can't see the point in making them since the original was/is a good game as it was/is.
lets_go_gunners  +   269d ago
Agreed 1080p 60fps DONE!!! No more than that is needed.
mhunterjr  +   269d ago
IMO, the ONLY flaw with halo2 multiplayer was the fact that it was P2P. The ranking system, the maps, the (lack of) loadouts, the weapons balancing, the matchmaking, it was perfection... For the life of me I don't understand why Bungie/343 saw fit to change the formula.

Give me halo2, with updated graphics, at 60fps, and dedicated servers and my productivity at work will me just like it was back in 9th grade when it came out...
xDHAV0K24x  +   268d ago
because they wanted the casuals to enjoy Halo as well. Look what it did for COD. I love that every Halo has been different. No one can complain that the MP has been copy and paste after all these years
mhunterjr  +   268d ago
Halo was already fun for casuals. There was public matches to go along with ranked matches. They could have implemented the xp system, and still hav the true skill system running in the background. They didn't have to complete abandon the core in order to attract more casuals.
Munnkyman  +   269d ago
Well they should have nailed the halo 1 remake muitiplayer and they couldn't even do that.
adamj004  +   269d ago
Um Halo 1 never had online MP, I really don't know why people were expecting Halo CEA to have it.
Munnkyman  +   269d ago
I am a huge halo 1 fan. It was big for lan parties since you could do 8 on 8 and a lot of people did it. Bungie even had a site set up just for people to meet up and have tournaments. Also people would play online with tunnel services that gamespy offered. So thats why people expected it, instead they got just halo reach muitiplayer.
adamj004  +   269d ago
A lot of people were expecting Halo CEA to actually have it's own online MP. But yeah they could have put in lan and/or split screen MP. But from what I've seen from people commenting on the MP, majority of them were expecting actual online MP.

I thought that's what you meant, sorry.
starscream420  +   269d ago
I would be very very happy to see halo2 redone with the power of xbox one and azure!
Yama  +   269d ago
So glad to hear this as I could see a campaign only effort with a Halo 5 beta or something of the sort. Multiplayer is what made the game what it was, without it there's no reason to bother.
christocolus  +   269d ago
So halo2 anniversary could ship with beta codes to halo5 multiplayer.....nice strategy.
xDHAV0K24x  +   268d ago
they should ship beta codes for all their exclusives
iNFAMOUZ1  +   269d ago
Please I cant stress this enough as a vet to halo 2 back in the days, dont mess with the mechanics, like the first guy said just dont add armor abilities, loadouts or anything just guns, grenades and vehicles, better textures, that's it, a game like halo 2 didnt need innovation, or competition, it was just fun...

If microsoft announces it at e3 without gimmicks I just can't explain..lol
I would finally remember who I am

I also think halo doesn't need 60fps, thats twitch territory, this is great 30fps imo, cinematic style, but just halo lol
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Alsybub  +   268d ago
Yes, build on it but don't try to re-invent it.

Like I was saying above, I would love to see expanded maps (added areas etc.) with a higher player count, with the mechanics unchanged. That certainly should be as well as and not a replacement.
MasterD919  +   269d ago
I'm much more interested in Halo 5 at this point. It's foolish to think MS will put stock into the Halo 2 multiplayer experience while already developing Halo 5.

Halo 1's remake didn't include the multiplayer (because Halo 4 came out shortly after). I imagine the same thing will happen with Halo 5 in development and the potential Halo 2 remake. I think people are kidding themselves if they believe they'll ever release a Halo 2 game with multiplayer.
Alsybub  +   268d ago
It would be pointless to make it then.

That game revolved around multiplayer, unlike its predecessor.

Don't get me wrong, for a lot of people Halo was all about multiplayer but its crowning glory was the campaign and therefore made it worthy of a remake from the perspective.
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SITH  +   269d ago
I rather have a Halo 3 remake. I miss armor lock.
cl1983  +   262d ago
Armor lock was in reach not 3
SITH  +   262d ago
Sure was.

I still miss armor lock.
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