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“Crippling Better Version for Similar Looks” Not an Option in PS4/XB1 Development: Adrian Chmielarz

Creative director and co-owner at The Astronauts Adrian Chmielarz is, defined by statements he made regarding the PS4 being more powerful the Xbox One. While he later stated that it was the games that defined the consoles, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter creator still has some interesting views on how to approach next gen development. (Adrian Chmielarz, PS4, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Xbox One)

FITgamer  +   212d ago | Well said
It's always reassuring to hear devs say they throw parity out the window.
Xsilver   212d ago | Immature | show | Replies(3)
Mr Pumblechook  +   212d ago
His honest answer suggest that some developers to cripple the better version for 'parity.'
DragonKnight  +   212d ago
Which we know is true.
deadfrag  +   212d ago
Its obvious true and will happen more than what some people are expecting.Expect some of the major developers to go for parity Ubisoft,Bethesda...
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Ritsujun   211d ago | Trolling | show
Oner  +   212d ago
Who the hell would disagree with FITgamer for that statement/comment?!?! Absolutely delusional....
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DragonKnight   212d ago | Off topic | show
Gozer  +   212d ago
Before anyone brings up a parity clause. A parity clause has to do with both games having the same features, it has nothing to do with graphics. This is a common mistake people makes about the parity clause that MS has with publishers.
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tuglu_pati  +   212d ago
@Gozer

So much delusion... :/
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Copen  +   212d ago
It has everything to do with graphics buddy. That's the entire reason for the "parity clause" to begin with. MS has the money to create a powerful machine but no they choose to chase the Nintendo Wii crowd the casual gamer instead of the hardcore gamers that built up the Xbox brand to begin with. I honestly can't believe you're trying to defend them having the "parity clause" to begin with but at least know WTF you're talking about which you clearly do not. MS and their business practices hurt the industry way more than anything they improve and that's really not up for debate.
Gozer  +   212d ago
Nope. Parity clause has to do with features and release date, nothing more. MS isn't any more evil than sony, you are naïve if you think otherwise. It really blows my mind how many people misunderstand what a parity clause is. You are wrong, as well as the majority of sony posters in this story.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
incredibleMULK  +   212d ago
@gozer
read the bottom of the article you posted.

FAIL. ms prohibits developers for utilizing other platforms strengths.""

try reading the whole article before you post next time dunski.
Ipunchbabiesforfun  +   212d ago
"Not all agree, however. One representative from a publisher who wished to remain anonymous told Eurogamer Microsoft's policy blocks developers from taking advantage of other platforms' strengths."

That's hearsay...come on now. Again, might be true, but there isn't any PROOF! You all just want to believe that because Microsoft sucks! it probably is as I said they suck, but it still isn't written anywhere.
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Xsilver  +   212d ago
Option 3 All the way
Eonjay  +   212d ago
The problem with this option is that time = money.
elninels  +   212d ago
Time is money.

Edit: fudgem You eonjay
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Xsilver  +   212d ago
well Option One then
BelkingOfSony   212d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(5)
josephayal  +   212d ago
The ps4 is hands down the more powerful machine
Fireseed  +   212d ago
Idk I think my dual Titan rig will be running this game more efficiently than a PS4, but hey it's an opini....

Oh wait, no. It's a fact. It's a cold hard fact.
falviousuk  +   212d ago
Dont sya things like that, the sony crowd brush over those to crow about other things.

shhhhh
Evilsnuggle  +   212d ago | Well said
Pc fanBoys time . We are talking about Game consoles and here's comes a thirsty pc fanBoy looking for attention. Said it before saying it again. PC fanBoys are worst that Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on your door ask you have you heard about PC? D@mm it we got it your resolution is 4k on you 10' monitor got it. Shouldn't you be comparing GPU's with other pc fanBoys on steam forum or yelling And petitioning Facebook about Oculus Rift or something. Maybe you should start a new petition for GTA 5 I heard any day now GTA 5 on pc. You pc fanBoys begging worked for The Division I mean petitioning.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/0... maybe you can Beg Facebook away keep them petition coming. Lol lol :-) nice try

Developers will never spend more time and money on making a weaker console version better. Developers are on timed schedules from publishers. IT doesn't make financial sense To make a weaker console version better or the same. If it takes time or money to do so.
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Mr_Writer85  +   212d ago
Prove you have a dual Titan rig...

It's not a fact without proof.
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Infamous298  +   212d ago
@Evilsnuggle he is trying to shift attention from how xbox one is weak by saying that his supposedly "dual titan rig" run the game much better than ps4 , how pathetic .

@Fireseed below, says the guy who bought the inferior version of titanfall on xbox one.
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Fireseed  +   212d ago
@Evilsnuggle

You may be talking about consoles, but this is about a game that's coming to Xbox One, PS4, AND PC! And hey we might beg for the Division, but at least we don't throw a hissy fit when a once exclusive game goes to another console... But nice try.

@Infamous-assassin

That orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I plan on buying this game for the PC and don't want to see it downgraded to keep in line with the inferior PS4 hardware. Cause his comments are about all versions of the game not just the consoles.

@ your Edit: In a single player story and immersion driven experience like The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, I'll buy it on the platform that runs it the best. But all my friends who play shooters play their games on Xbox... so I bought it for Xbox. Simple as that.
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   212d ago
Lmao, dual titan rig?

What are you trying to do, run the entire world as a simulation?

What a waste of money.
Fireseed  +   212d ago
@Lukas_Japonicus

I'm a 3D character artist... I need the power to sculpt nearly 100 mil polygons at once. And I game so going the route of the Quadros wasn't optimal nor viable.

@Studio-YaMi

I'm a computer artist... any proof I provide would just as easily be accused of being photshopped. Or in some other way forged.
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Studio-YaMi  +   212d ago
@Fireseed
It's funny,you replied to all the people who replied to you but didn't try to acknowledge "Mr_Writer85" comment on your "so claimed" rig.

Calling out BS.
BakPAin  +   212d ago
I'll take my chances on a $399 better optimization PS4 version! And save money on my electric bill aswell! Two Titan Sli....you played out pimp you should have got two 780ti..not even two more expensive Titans can f with that!
Fireseed  +   212d ago
@BakPAin

Well owning an expensive rig isn't for everyone, but good on ya to getting the game anyway it looks like it's gonna be awesome! :)

And UGH! I wish the 780ti would've been suitable for what I needed cause god are those specs sexy, as is the price. But unfortunately the 780ti's as of the time I bought my cards and at the moment of me writing this cannot be soft modded to be "verified" hardware when running Maya where I do all my renders. :(
Why o why  +   212d ago
Seems Mr fire picks and chooses when it's time to champion xbox and when to champion pc . So transparent it's comical. He'll be in the next xbox article reppin their exclusives next. When the topic switches to power he switches to pc akin to the bullied kid running to his older brother for help.

Most of us have pc's but we can't play uncharted or gran tourismo, Alan wake or crackdown on them.
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Mr_Writer85  +   212d ago
Still no proof to back up your facts.

Guess you are just a butt hurting XboxOne owner.

Everyone knows PC's can out perform consoles, but making up a rig to try and hide the butthurt is quite sad really.

@Why oh Why Alan Wake is on PC isn't it?
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Fireseed  +   212d ago
@why

Im probably gonna regret even bothering with this but here's my PC handles.

LoL
http://wastedonlol.com/na-f...

Steam:
http://steamcommunity.com/i...
Mr_Writer85  +   212d ago
I never said you didn't own A PC did I?

I just said prove you own a rig with two titans.

Here is my Steam profile. However my laptop is not some beast and I don't go around pretending I have some super powerful PC to make up for my choice in console.

And then making up a fake job to get out of providing evidence.

https://steamcommunity.com/...
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Cryptcuzz  +   212d ago
Wow man, that is what you get for spouting BS about PC this and PC that. Reading through the comments, I was actually hoping you would have proof of your claim of a rig with dual titans. This is so bad, even I feel bad for you. Serves you right.

PC can be great for gaming, but it is not for everyone. Just don't go into an article about X1 and PS4 and trying to be an online warrior about your rig, when you are clearly a poser.

You can hang out bro, you just don't gotta lie to kick it.
Fireseed  +   212d ago
Ok here's a screen grab of my receipt...

I of course had to blur out some things.

http://i.imgur.com/zaLDS1C....

Happy now?

And no... the job is not made up.
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Flutterby  +   212d ago
Yes we all believe you fireseed lol you spend thousands on a pc so you can play amazing games at super high res yet you bought titanfall on the xbone right /s
SasukeX16  +   212d ago
No one metioned a PC.
Copen  +   212d ago
Your computer is irrelevant you PC elitist troll. If it's so good why aren't you playing a game on it now instead of trolling articles shouting the specs to a computer your mother bought you?
Edsword  +   212d ago
How much did you pay for that?
Rainstorm81  +   212d ago
Fake reciepts and Steam nbames>

How about you pop open the panel and post a picture? If you gonna boast about your powerful rig and your technical know how sure posting a pic is mere childs play..

Alot of credibility lost on here Fireseed......be who you are..... a Xbox guy....no shame in that
kingdom18  +   211d ago
Where in this comparison was a PC even a consideration? You CAN'T compare PCs to consoles when they can be continuously upgraded to the highest possible tech, if one so wishes.
SCW1982  +   212d ago
I think it's funny that you are getting disagrees on proven facts. That's like someone saying earth is round and being disagreed. Oh Xbots.
Mr_Writer85  +   212d ago
Buying two of them and having two installed are not the same thing.

You could have two rigs with one in each.

You could of been buying them for someone else.

You could of stole that screenshot.

A picture of your rig with the two Titans installed with a hand written note like "is this good enough Mr Writer". Would of done it.

One question tho. Who am I? No one, why do you care if people think you are making stuff up or not? Why put yourself in that position? Maybe you should care less about what people you will probably never meet think.

That or just stop boasting to try and get one over people on the Internet....

Just a thought.
Ipunchbabiesforfun  +   212d ago
lol, well to be fair if he bought 2 of them to put in 2 different rigs he still could potentially put 2 in one rig at any time if he wanted. But the fact he posted a bunch of receipts is pretty lame lol
DanielGearSolid  +   212d ago
Option two was the only option last gen... When MS was bullying

Now, I feel like devs laugh at their parity clauses
Infamous298  +   212d ago
Microsoft dont like competition and they buy their way to victory.
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miyamoto  +   212d ago
During the Genesis and SNES days multi platform games maxed out each respective platform to the max and the results were fantastic leaving gamers the best games and every one was so happy. Each platform strenths highlighted gamers had their money's worth.
Developers having the freedom to squeeze out every drop of juice they can from each hardware made it seem eaxh console's weakness were no big deal. Genesis had so few colors available but games like Sonic the Hedghog turned that to its advantage by superb color combination. Genesis had no Mode 7 but Treasure was able toake sprites look 3D in Gunstar Heroes. Genesis had a modest Yamaha sound chip compared to the SNES's Sony sound chip but Thunder Force 3 & Streets of Rage made it sound good or even better to the more powerful console.

Now we have parity politics from MS that crippled an entire generarion of games.
gano  +   211d ago
Fukin A.
M$ help damage gaming.
Dlc, paid online, this shyt.
Greedy m********** tryin to destroy my past time.
Never a ms anything, go get xboned.
elm  +   212d ago | Well said
Why does Microsoft command such respect and what seams like fear from 3rd parties? They come last with the original Xbox, they came last with the 360 and they are in last place atm with the xbone so why do publishers pussy foot around trying to please Microsoft?

Just for a quick example Sony has sold 442 million HW units in 19 years which is about 23 million HW sales per year. Microsoft has sold about 108 million HW sales in 14 years which is 7.71 million sales per year so why do publishers constantly do everything Microsoft command of them? I could understand if they had 600 million sales or somthing like Apple products for example, or even maga sales of Nintendo over the last 30 years.

It just seams to me that Microsoft think they're more important than they actually are in the console business. All I can think of is Microsoft must be paying big bucks for this favoritism from publishers, sites, media and so on because they haven't done anything spectacular when you look at total sales compared to others.
ThunderSpark  +   212d ago
Money my friend. Money.
BakPAin  +   212d ago
Why did I read your comment? This units sold comparison i dont agree with. And has nothing to do with parity!
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Flutterby  +   212d ago
Like whathappened said , the way of MS is to throw money at things till they get what they want, MS wouldn't know fair play if it bit them on the xbone fanboy (I would say arse but that space is currently taken up by fanboys).
_FantasmA_  +   212d ago
Yeah. M$ is the ugly sibling in the family, the douche nobody likes. And he thinks nobody likes him for no reason, not realizing he's an asshole, a liar, and a lazy freeloader who thinks he is entitled. Rather than trying to be a good person, he just pays people to say good things about him.

M$ can't or won't put in the work to earn their money and respect the right way, so they throw money (which is the Murican way) at their problems to make them go away. They bully people to make up their shortcomings. But eventually the bully ends up paying...
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lawgone  +   212d ago
Wow Fantasm, just wow.
elhebbo16  +   212d ago
So xbox one is hold the PS4 back and both consoles are holding PC gaming back? anything new here?
KontryBoy706  +   212d ago
THANK GOODNESS
Belasco  +   212d ago
Does anyone remember the awfulness of Ps2 ports on the first Xbox? Now THAT was the lowest common denominator that truly dragged down an entire generation graphically.Such short memories, all of you get off your podium.
DanielGearSolid  +   212d ago
But was their a contractual clause requiring the lowest common denominator?
Belasco  +   212d ago
No, Sony just owned 80% of the market at the time.
DanielGearSolid  +   212d ago
Exactly

MS was not only threatening to not allow games that looked better on ps3 to even release on 360, they went as far as putting it in their contract.

I've never heard of Sony bullying devs like that with ps2... If you have, I'll read any articles you've seen on the subject
mysteryraz11  +   212d ago
Consoles hold nothing back in fact its pcs that hold themselves back because most ppl have low end pcs like mine, pc fanboys dont check the facts hardly anyone has dual titan cards like that guy up there said
BakPAin  +   212d ago
Dont worry I doubt the guy with the dual titan up there is enjoy his game anymore than you are yours with your low end pc or consoles!
mysteryraz11  +   212d ago
Im just telling the truth most ppl dont build expensive computers to play games the most played pc games are infact rts and mmos like world of warcraft
elhebbo16  +   212d ago
yea thats why developers include multiple settings to configure to what type of PC you have smartass. because of consoles games have to look good for the lowest common denominator first instead of making it look its best no matter what hardware. and who the hell needs a dual titan for gaming? I use a gtx 760 and all my gamings run on ultra, what kinda BS are you blabbing about?
Flutterby  +   212d ago
All games on ultra with a 760? I'm guessing the frame rates are a little low then lol there is no way you can play all current games at ultra with a 760.
Edsword  +   212d ago
Dual Titans, yay! Oh no DX12 on the horizon, I'll never get the chance to max out my rig! :(. Look there is always something bigger, better, and shinier. I'm not disappointed with my Ford Fusion because Lambos exist. I'm happy with a reliable vehicle that does what it's supposed to do. That is why I like my PS4, I put a PS4 game in, and it works. I don't have to tweak the settings and I didn't pay $3000 for it just to be obsolete tomorrow.
quenomamen  +   212d ago
Well we know who's not getting a check come next Christmas from big uncle MS.
lawgone  +   212d ago
We all know who's a fanboy.
quenomamen  +   212d ago
Replying to a " fanboy "comment with a " fanboy " comment oneself, makes onself a fanboy as well congratulations.
TristanPR77  +   212d ago
I don't know why is so hard for PC fanboys to stay on their territory. Here we are talking about consoles, not PC. Are you so desperate about attention? Go to your PC articles, here is all about consoles.

Jesus.
Flutterby  +   212d ago
I am a pc gamer , Ira just that there is no news in the pc sections worth reading and no one there to talk to cos they are all here bragging about their dual titans.
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Shakengandulf  +   211d ago
Uh, come in sir... May i take your coat?
Kennytaur  +   212d ago
Good, we wouldn't want the Xbox clouding developers judgement.......

Geddit?
lawgone  +   212d ago
Idea - N4G adds a way for people to verify what consoles they have and it displays that under their avatar. Why? Because it would help stop so much of this constant fanboy BS that dominates the content here.

Fact is, no one that actually owns (or has spent significant time playing) both consoles and possess a rational mind would say either console is all good or all bad. The truth is they both have positives and negatives but overall they are both great consoles.
Immorals  +   212d ago
Nice idea, but I doubt it would work. Idiots would be idiots whether they owned the console or not.

N4g should just go ahead with a zero tolerance purge.
nerdman67  +   211d ago
X1 is powerful enough to at least stay comparable to the PS4, especially if they just drop the resolution, which for many isnt a problem. I own both, and my purchases are based on where my friends are playing, because really when I care about resolution and frame rate, I buy on my PC. Consoles are for exclusives and friends who cant afford PCs, for me at least. Regardless, any of the current gen consoles are a good choice, I dont know what the fighting is about
ATi_Elite  +   211d ago
YEH Devs LOVE to say "OMG so much POWER we can't wait to exploit it"

But then the Publisher steps in and tells them "to make both versions look the same".

happened Last Gen and it's gonna happen this Gen with multiplats.

A Publisher is not gonna risk upsetting one console fanbase by making a game that looks super better on the other console.
lawgone  +   211d ago
There might be some fanboys moderating N4G though so I don't know if that would work. I love that my idea to reduce fanboys has gotten 4 disagrees and 0 agrees. This place is just overrun with fanboys.

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