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Submitted by sAVAge_bEaST 685d ago | news

PS4 hardware sales jump 106% on InFamous: Second Son launch

The release of InFamous: Second Son has given PS4 hardware sales a big jump in the UK.

MCV has been told by a trusted retail source that sales of PS4 consoles jumped 106 per cent last week as exclusive title InFamous: Second Son debuted on Sony’s machine, jumping straight to No.1 in the process.

That’s a bigger jump than Xbox One enjoyed following the release of Titanfall – that saw sales of Microsoft’s machine jump 96 per cent. (inFamous: Second Son, PS4)

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rarity  +   685d ago | Well said
Wow that's absolutely amazing! I hope everyone's enjoying infamous I know I am.
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MightyNoX  +   685d ago | Well said
Well deserved. It's a game with a lot of heart.
Abash  +   685d ago | Well said
And a game with a lot of power. Both in terms of gameplay and graphics
Ezz2013  +   685d ago | Well said
ps4 didn't even need *system seller*
because it already selling better than any other console on the market
but still got it *system seller* as it seems

ppl who say ps4 have no games are gonna end up saying ps4 have way too much games
it's like ps3 all over again
remember this guys ?!

and then later we got articles crying that sony have too many exclusives like it's a bad thing
the double standards are incredible
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FITgamer  +   685d ago | Well said
It's an amazing game. So damn gorgeous.

Off Topic: Let the tears flow.
PoSTedUP  +   685d ago | Well said
106% is pretty good jumping up from a dominant position. just imagine if they gave out I:SS for free XD.
Kingthrash360  +   685d ago | Well said
tf= free bundle/x1 price cut/ overhyped--98% jump
iss= $60/no ps4 price cut/ under hyped-- 106% jump
i wonder how big a gap in percentage it would have been if they were switched. just wow.
awsome game btw just got the 3rd power...awsomeness.
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Death  +   685d ago
Weren't sales lower the past few weeks because they were sold out?
NewMonday  +   685d ago
this is on top of the 75% rise from last week
Crystallis  +   685d ago
The game is a blast to play and a marvel to look at just got the neon power and WOW. The colors in this games are insane.

Next gen has truly started on the PS4. Good things to come.
chrismichaels04  +   685d ago I guess people were excited about playing Infamous. Who knew? LOL Seriously though, congrats to Infamous and the PS4. Sony continues its dominating performance.
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Eonjay  +   685d ago
Is this on top of the 76% boost from last week?
miyamoto  +   685d ago
This explains why Gamestop planned on that ridiculously more expensive Second Son bundle! They knew it would sell even better.
ShinMaster  +   684d ago
So let me get this straight...

TITANFALL is released bundled for free and XBO gets a 98% sales boost, but PS4 also gets a 74% boost at the same time.

Now INFAMOUS:SS is released(not free) and PS4 manages another 106% boost?

PS4 didn't really need a "SYSTEM SELLER" game because the PS4 sells itself, but apparently games like InFAMOUS do have the potential to boost the PS4 even further.
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Pogmathoin  +   684d ago
Really? All of a sudden there is 106% PS4's suddenly available? You lot know too well if it was MS, it would be called creating hype for demand..... Its great its doing well, Infamous 2nd Son really does look like a huge generational leap, but c'mon, try show some consistency with all your cock and bull stories..... You people make Rob Ford look totally straight and clean....
Angeljuice  +   684d ago

That would be a valid point if Sony hadn't been saying for several weeks beforehand that they intended to have stocks ready for the launch. They couldn't very well sell the inFamous bundle before the game was released.
abzdine  +   684d ago
great great game!
got the neon power yesterday it's really nice looking.
well deserved success for PS3 and this first massive exclusive.
looking forward to the sales numbers later this week.

it's actually better they delayed it to now, it gave a boost to the hardware sales.
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mewhy32  +   684d ago
PS4 is selling like hotcakes. If ms doesn't do something soon then the xbone is going to go down in flames.
Mikelarry  +   685d ago
I am on my second play through now and I enjoy being evil, the civilians just has to say hi or look at me funny and I KARMA BOMB the B%^&^ :).
LOL_WUT  +   685d ago
Second play through? Wow I just started yesterday and it's so beautiful to look at going the evil route on my first play through ;)
Kingthrash360  +   685d ago | Funny
i'm on the same thought process..i'm still on the first playthrough....going to go bad on the second and if someone crosses the street, everybody on the block dies.
lol <--- Dr. Evil laugh
Mikelarry  +   685d ago
@ kingtrash

" and if someone crosses the street, everybody on the block dies. "

LMAO now that is truly EVIL
Boody-Bandit  +   684d ago
That cracked me up "EVERYBODY DIES!"
Pug  +   684d ago
Wow i'm still on first play thru also. Sometimes i just stand around for minutes on end looking around at the scenery its that good lol
ramiuk1  +   684d ago
im good at moment(81% complete) and glad i went good 1st.
but i wanna just karma bomb those protesters etc,plus the women who want my babies.

amazing game and it is a MUST BUY imo
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DeadRabbits  +   685d ago
Spare a thought for those whom cannot experience inFamous yet. May ye get decent trade in rates for your old hardware!
Mystogan  +   685d ago
No source or whatsoever...
Death  +   685d ago
MCV has been told by a trusted retail source that sales of PS4 consoles jumped 106 per cent last week as exclusive title InFamous: Second Son debuted on Sony’s machine,

The Titanfall sales were credited to Chartrack.
Infamous data was given by "a trusted retail sorce". I'll wait for Chartracks numbers.
TheEnigma313  +   685d ago
It happened for Titanfall, so why would it happen for Infamous?
GTgamer  +   685d ago
Lmao I love this oh you need a source its funny when they said 96% for Xbox one with titanfall no one question it but apparently when it happens to PS4 with Second y'all want a source smh look the possibility of this not being not true is soooooo small because of the PS4 success so you better begin to accept that.
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jmac53  +   685d ago
A this is some rumor. It's coming from a retailer who can't fudge numbers. Shed your fanboy tears somewhere else.
Volkama  +   685d ago
I just assumed they'd use the same source, as both reports came from MCV.

I also typically assume that someone is playing silly buggers when they report on a % increase and deliberately neglect to mention the actual numbers. That's not how you report numbers, that's how you spin them.
PSVita  +   685d ago
Yea there's not really a source but it's not hard to believe give it had 1 million pre orders
Saito  +   685d ago
Your pain is palpable.
dendenmooshi  +   685d ago
Just going to reiterate what @Volkama said. MCVUK is the same source used in the 96% increase in X1 sales with the release of Titanfall.

Believe both or believe neither.
Qrphe  +   685d ago
Ouch, put some lube on that
Beastforlifenoob  +   684d ago | Well said
Mystogan GTFO you are a troll

"Not only that. It is vastly inferior to the Kinect 2. Not just with resolution. #2.1.7" (when talking about PS camera)

"VR headsets on consoles will not work very well. They are struggling to maintain 1080p 60FPS. An image lower than 1080p will suck on VR headsets. As proven by the first Oculus Rift prototype.
A console doesn't have enough power to even maintain two 720p 60fps images.

VR will be a PC gaming thing. #9"

"Of course the PS4 is going to win an N4G stupid are these admins? They should have done a console by choice. The one who wins gets to choose which console they want. That would be much more fair. #13"

"Because they've noticed that the Xbox equivalent is better in quality.

Twitch has more features and better quality on Xbox.

Killzone is best looking game on PS4, Ryse is best looking Game on Xbox One, and the best looking game this gen so far.

Ryse is 900p 60fps and looks way better than Killzone at 1080p 30fps.

900p 60fps > 1080p 30fps | 720p 60fps

ps4 is not as powerful as many of the Sony fanboy wan... #1.1.1"

"Hmmm... This no name devs game...or Titanfall?... I choose Titanfall. #2.1" (when talking about a game not coming to XBX1)

"The PS4 is being praised as a Gaming centric device yet Xbox One has more top Rated AAA exclusives, They're spending 1 billion dollars on exclusives and all the PS4 has are Indie games. I keep hearing from dual console owners that their PS4 is simply collecting dust and their Xbox One is on all the time. I even heard it from that Sony fanboy at IGN.

What you PSfanboys don't want to know or simply ignore is the fact that Sony is in deep shit. Financially.
They&... #1.4"

"But Xbox has Titanfall... #1.3.1"

"And all the PS4 is getting are indie games besides Infamous and The Order. "

"Lol if this was a microsoft article this would have been approved 2 hours ago."

"Resolution doesn't make a whole lot of difference as much as the PSfanboys would like it. #1.1.12"

"Lets just ignore the fact that the PS4 launched in 48 countries and sold 4 million while Xbox One launched in just 13 and sold 3 million. "

"Linux is for nerds who like to tinker. MacOS is for people who are less intelligent than normal people. Windows is for every other human being on this earth. #1.2.11"

"Halo is the star wars of videogames. #1.1.8"

"Lol hypocrite.

did you forgot how Sony now makes you pay 2 play online? I guess you forgot that They wanted you to pay $600 for a console too. And also that they let your credit cards get stolen. And shut down PSN for a month.

Like I said. Hypocrites. #1.1.2"

"Yeah and how do we know this isn't fake?" When talking about bad xbx1 customer service

fonger08  +   684d ago
@Beastforlifenoob do we need examine your posts then? Cause it would be a pretty open and shut case on the term hypocrite.
DigitalRaptor  +   684d ago

Mystogan, you got owned - now go cry somewhere else.
kayoss  +   684d ago
Wtf?? How come you're not playing titanfall? You praised the crap out of it but yet you're here?
thereapersson  +   684d ago
Damn, beastforlife went off on Mystogan. Looks like he's got a valid point, however!
imt558  +   685d ago
PS4 jump 106% vs. Xbone jump 96%

10% difference. F*** yeah!:-D

So glad that singleplayer games are still important!!!
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RiPPn  +   685d ago | Well said
It did 10% better without a price drop and/or including the game free.. aka very impressive..

By the way N4G isn't the only site on the internet that favors Sony this gen, pretty much any site that doesn't have an "xbox," "microsoft" or anything related in it's name are pretty much all the same, oh and in real life too.
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ncc-017  +   685d ago
Right on, we all grew up on single player games!
jebabcock  +   684d ago
106% increase of previous ps4 sales is actually ALOT more than 96% increase on x1 sales. Saying 10% different is comparing apples to oranges...
kayoss  +   684d ago
Ps4 averages about 20k per week in UK
Xb1 averages 5k per week in UK
This is just an estimated calculation.

Ps4 (20k x .106 )= 2.12 x 20= 42.4 units sold
Xb1 (5k x .96)= 4.8 x 5k = 24 units sold

Yeah so just saying 10% will not tell the real story. It may sound small but when you get all the numbers and do the calculation. It's does not seem so small does it. If my calculation is correct, ps4 sold almost 50% more units then xb1 during this time in the UK.
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trenso1  +   684d ago
@kayoss your math is off 106% isn't .106 it is 1.06
Evilsnuggle  +   685d ago
Is this a surprise to anyone? Both infamous SS and Titanfall are big exclusive releases. I have read so many people comments saying that the are waiting for infamous SS or Titanfall to buy a next-gen system.
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Applejack  +   685d ago | Interesting
I am in love with this game! It is SO much better than the first two were (not saying they were bad, it just this one is such an improvement).

Edit: Wow, I'm sure in a talking mood today. I don't have any bubbles left XD
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TheEnigma313  +   685d ago
So far I still like part two better, but this game is amazing. I didn't think I would like Delsin so much.
christian hour  +   685d ago
Personally for me the twist end to the first will forever cement it as my most memorable, infamous 2 definitely had better gameplay naturally.

As for Second Son? The character arcs were handled pretty well, there was nothing majorly shocking story wise, but the gameplay and the attention to detail in the world/overall aesthetics... breath taking. I'm still blown away anytime I use orbital drop or any of the other ultimate power moves which I wont mention to avoid spoiling it on anyone waiting to pick up their copy :)
Anon1974  +   685d ago
Where the hell are they finding stock for it to jump that much? Looking at, the PS4 is still pretty scarce in the UK with only a handful of bundles available. I don't doubt that there's been a spike, but imagine what that spike would be if the PS4 was readily available.
Longshot28  +   685d ago
They usually refer to the base 399 model, a lot of people bought the SS bundle.
christian hour  +   685d ago
In my experience most of the big retailers tend to be sold out most of the time, but if you pop in to any self-owned lil electrical store sometimes you can be lucky to find one or two, or in one of my friends cases, while searching for a ps4, found a store (some family owned place) that had 10 left in stock, it also had about 30 xbones in stock and 8 on the floor in kiosks... for some... reason. Never thought to ask haha, prob trying to get rid of em :P
Anon1974  +   685d ago
I have no doubt there's stock out there somewhere, and I know they're trickling into stores periodically. I managed to find one in Canada over a month ago and they're generally sold out everywhere, so if you get lucky you can certainly find them.

It's just that idea that it jumped up so dramatically. It's not like PS4's are sitting on store shelves and Infamous inspired people to run out and buy a console. Stock is hard to come by, so I can only assume that in order for there to be any jump, Sony must have made more units available for the Infamous launch. Otherwise I would think that sales would have been stable as they're selling out as soon as they're in stock.

Maybe the spike is due to, as Longshot28 mentioned, the sudden availability of Infamous bundles being introduced into the mix?
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DigitalAnalog  +   685d ago
Suddenly, the Titanfall hype is further diminished to another "great" shooter. And now we have another reiterated franchise with next-gen polish giving a PS4 a higher boost than it's competitor.


What's even funnier is that some people believe that an exclusive for one system will affect the sales of another exclusive from another just because they release in the same time period. The delusions of such fanboy mentality.
GT67  +   685d ago
editor job must be hard..... "search all over" for articles proclaiming 106% increase for ps4 next day MS miraculously jump 96% for Titanfall. but later on this week we'll see slummage of sales again on both side.
why such weekly lies? draw hits from gamers to conform debates?? if someone comments sound good they get credit for it?? when did gaming become debatable issues?? leisure fun time of gaming is now consider group gathering online debate WOW!!! just unbelievable.
do anyone ever wonder how and why Sony an MS release games and console at the right time always?? could they be working together behind closed doors to the public. and how they know what game to announce ?? why was'nt it Halo vs. infamous second son 2 or Gears 3 vs infamous second son 2 ?? do Sony and MS call each other to say which game they will release?? so many questions to ask.
when open world shooters is over and done maybe gaming can be saved and re-born in 2018
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GraveLord  +   685d ago
That means that inFamous is a bigger system seller than Titanfall. You can't argue with math.
jessupj  +   684d ago
That's never stopped the fanboys before :)
serratos27  +   684d ago
You kidding? Heck yeah!!! This game has given my life meaning again!
hellzsupernova  +   684d ago
I honestly did not expect that to happen!!! I would've thought the push Microsoft was giving with titanfall was bigger with more advertising! im glad people still have not forgotten!

I also think Sony probably shipped a lot more consoles in this period just because it's sold out otherwise. Great console, great game! Jealous i have no ps4 now.
Anarki  +   684d ago
The game is solid, I've enjoyed doing both Good and Evil on 100%.
showtimefolks  +   684d ago
well deserved by sony and sucker punch

amazing game that i hope a lot of people get to play
Gamer1982  +   684d ago
Considering the PS4 jumped last week anyway tis is more impressive as its like more than a 150% jump from 2 weeks ago. Since it was outselling xbox one that week that just means its blown away xbox so far in the UK a place that was last generation an xbox territory.
kopicha  +   684d ago
surprised that it did better than TF. Didnt expect this coming. But indeed it is an amazing game. Enjoyed every bit of the game. By far the best inFamous game I have personally played (note this is a personal opinion as I indeed enjoyed Second Son better than the previous series) Just finish the normal mode with Good Karma as we speak. Now going on my 2nd run in expert mode with Evil Karma. Time to be evil :P
xX-StolenSoul-Xx  +   684d ago
I already got the platinum trophy for the game and enjoyed every second getting it, now I'm just working on the paper trail until more content is released.
TAURUS-555  +   684d ago
its an amazing game.

xbox1 RIP
Sarcasm  +   684d ago
It's too early to say, but gawd damn Infamous SS is my favorite PS4 game thus far. Queue the "but but but there's nothing else" I don't care, it's a good game in all regards. The story isn't quite as thrilling as Cole, but I appreciate the fresh new take on it. Imagine the complaints how it would be the same if it was just Cole a third time with Electric powers again.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   685d ago | Well said
It pays to put money into, and build, your own 1st party Studios.

Money Hatting only devolves the industry, instead of pushing it forward.

As gamers. This is why we support Sony, They continue to push the industry forward... Not holding it back, with money hatting tactics.

Imagine what Sony 1st party studios, will be pushing out, a Few Years from now.... MindBlown.jpg
Illusive_Man  +   685d ago
I'm a gamer and I do not support Sony.
Rainstorm81  +   685d ago

Any reasons why?
gravv  +   685d ago
you need to know the differences between r-tard brainwashed m$ sheep who plays overhyped dudebro shooters with real gamers who plays PC and sony+nintendo consoles, my guess you are the former... :) Peace out!
TheDarpaChief  +   685d ago
Applejack  +   685d ago
Last time I checked, a gamer is suppose to game and not pledge loyalty to any particular company.
Sayai jin  +   685d ago
@AppleJack - Shush it! Your common sense is showing :P

Its okay to have a favorite or preferred item of choice. Coke over Pepsi, BMW over Ford, PS over Xbox...or visa versa. Whats ridiculous is to pour loyalty into a plastic object or company. Enjoy the games and support them. No need to bash what you do not like or support.

On topic, great job for a great game!!! Infamous!
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Hicken  +   685d ago
@Rainstorm: Because he can't do anything but troll Sony articles. Just check his comment history.

Anyway, this isn't unexpected. For the PS4 sales to go up with the release of inFamous, and for it to have such a significant, immediate impact is within expectations. The question is how long the spike will last.
SoulSercher620  +   685d ago
No you're a troll. Get it right.
jasondracd  +   685d ago're just asking for it aren't you.
Saito  +   685d ago
Your gaming life can't even be gaming without some Sony releases in your life. You're just hurt.
Magicite  +   684d ago
u mad bro
kopicha  +   684d ago

you simply tell the whole world that you are not a gamer but more like a fantard. Because a gamer play games and it does not matter if the game is exclusive on Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, PC or what not. Because a gamer will play the game if the game is a great and that's about it. So nice troll there you have.
Crystallis  +   685d ago
Couldn't of said it better myself.
Death  +   685d ago

Sucker Punch was founded by a couple former Microsoft employees. Sony has been paying them for exclusive content for years (money hatting). It wasn't until 2011 that Sony cut a check and bought Sucker Punch, adding them to their stable of first party developers.

As a gamer I don't really care how Sony aquired their first party studios. Off the top of my head, Polyphony is the only Sony first party that was built by Sony. Sony purchased the majority of them including Media Molecule more recently.

For you to even hint that anyone that doesn't believe the BS that you are spewing about Sony building studios isn't a "gamer" is offensive at best. Sony bought their way into gaming just like Microsoft. To say otherwise is either ignorance or denial.
Eonjay  +   685d ago
Even if you did care how a studio was acquired, it doesn't make you any less of a gamer. The only thing you have to do is play games. Anyway, Sony works with studios to provide content for the PlayStation (as all platform holders should; Nintendo that means you too), and makes a bid to acquire studios that have a proven track record. You can see it happening right now with independent studios like House Marque (Resogun) and a host of Independent Studios.

It seems though that Sony only buys into the best. Once you are in though, you're in.
Death  +   685d ago
You are in until you are out.

Psygnosis/Liverpool, Zipper, Big Big are closed down. Santa Monica and Cambridge have been restructured with many employees being let go.
Drekken  +   685d ago | Well said
Death, you are annoying. Sometimes the big boys have to restructure because a studio isn't productive enough or their games aren't selling enough to warrant a studio staying open. Zipper made MAG, which I enjoyed but it was buggy and never was polished enough. They ruined Socom. They had nothing left to offer. It sucks they had to close, but I am sure it made sense financially. You like to talk like you are smart, so surely you are wise enough to know how to budget. But then again, maybe not.
BitbyDeath  +   685d ago
If Sony are so bad then why do they have just 11 game studio closures over the course of 21 years where as MS has 22 game studio closures over the course of 12 years?

MS sold off most of their own studios which is why they barely get any exclusives.
Death  +   685d ago
I never claimed to be smart. The topic is money hatting. Buying a studio and then shutting it down when the IP's don't sell doesn't sound like "building" a studio to me. Sony buys studios when they are hot and when the IP's fizzle, they get shut down and another studio is aquired.

I do understand budget. I do not understand how Sony can support PS3, PS4, PSP, Vita, PSNow, and Morpheus while the company edges closer and closer to bankruptcy every day. After the Santa Monica layoffs, Sony announced they would shut down more than half of their 31 Sony Stores in the U.S. laying off 1000 workers. Last year they sold their World HQ's and now rent the same space. PC's are sold off, TV's is being spun off by 2015. Sony has been liquidating assets to prevent bankruptcy and preserve their stock status which is already labeled as "junk".

So yeah, I understand budget. I also feel Sony should focus what budget they have on the product that is doing very well. Their focus should be on the PS4 and it's core market. PSNow, Morpheus and sadly Vita (great piece of kit) should not be taking away from what little Sony has.
SoapShoes  +   685d ago
Sucker Punch chose to work with Sony after N64, there was no money hatting. The reason they stayed exclusive was Sony treated them well.
Drekken  +   685d ago
This has been the plan since Kaz took over. Trim the fat and get the company working together as one.

Sony's TVs are great IMO, but it was part of the company that was bleeding them. It had to be cut down. Computers was another. So yeah, I guess you are damned if you, damned if you don't with Sony.

SMS - They are lucky they had a job for as long as they did. Just like Zipper and Liverpool, that section of the studio was a money sink that had such bad results from their game that Sony canceled it. Four years in the making. No idea how that went on as long as it did besides bad management. I still wonder if that was part of the reason Trenton stepped down.

Sony Stores - Really? Did they need this? Sony has a strong online presence and their brand is sold in every single retail store. To me, it was just redundant.

So Kaz promises to trim up the company and make it profitable, which he has been doing. By doing so he has had to make tough decisions like laying people off. I would rather see Sony lay people off than close their doors.

The game division is very profitable for Sony. Mobile phones are too. Sony keeps supporting Playstation because it makes them money. They may not be able to keep doing so if they kept all those sony stores open though. In a few years you will see a lean, mean sony where people like you can't comment on their financial well being every day. Better start working on new bullet points.
AsimLeonheart  +   684d ago
No you do not understand budget or business, kid. Do you even know what "junk" status means? Sony's stock was not downgraded; its "credit rating" was downgraded. It was meant for CREDITORS and just meant that lending money to Sony is very risky since they may not be able to repay it any time soon.
So what do you want them to do if they are in financial trouble? Stop making games or trying to innovate in order save money? Will that revive the company? You need to spend money in order to make money. They need to have some breakthrough product that becomes a hit and generates a huge amount of revenue to revive the company. They do not need to retreat in their shell and die a slow death. Finally, a company's financial troubles or performance are not a consumer's concern. Do you have some kind of orgasm or high when you list Sony's financial troubles whenever you get the chance? What point do they serve? I am a gamer and I play GAMES, not net profits or losses.
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_FantasmA_  +   684d ago
How you have 6 bubbles and I only have amazes me. You are such an Xbro its not even funny. I've noticed that most of the time, people who say good things about M$ have lots of bubbles like you and WB27 but not the Sony guys. I guess PlayStationers have too many games to play and ain't got time for that bubble stuff. And Sony at least lets their studios freedom to create games they want. Im sure they have some requests for certain features in game, but they don't take talented people like Rare and force them to make games for a gimmick.
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Death  +   684d ago

The moment you say "kid", your insecurities come out screaming. You'll figure that out when you get older.

Sony's debt status was downgraded to junk. Investment firms use debt status to determine if a company is worth investing in. The goal behind investments is to see a return. If the companys debt ratings show little chance of a return they will not invest. Sony is having a hard time getting investors due to their losses over the last 6 years. If you can't attract investors to invest in your next big idea you need to restructure like Sony has been doing the last few years. They are selling off assets to reduce losses, not strengthen the company.

Focusing on their core markets would be a great idea. The PS4 is off to a great start and Sony needs to focus on feeding the system with more great games and content. Vita, Now and Morpheus will take away from the limited resources Sony could be using for the PS4.

Why do you think gaming is profitable for Sony? Last year gaming accounted for 0.2% of Sony's profit for the year. Gaming lost money for the first 2 quarters of this year until the PS4 release which generated a small profit at the end of the third quarter. If you want to help Sony, stop saying Playstation makes them money and start telling other fans to buy more games. The hardcore fans on this site say I am an Xbot. I am waiting for a couple first party games to come out that interest me before buying a PS4. That will make up for the hit they take on hardware. I already subscribe to Plus.
AsimLeonheart  +   684d ago
LOL. You are telling that to a father in his 30s with a university business degree. The irony! Man, the kids these days make me laugh so hard with their overconfidence, ignorance and arrogance.
You are still wrong. Debt rating is NOT related to investment. It is only related to liabilities or borrowing. A "AAA" status means that the company's liquidity is solid, the business will continue in the foreseeable future and you are highly likely to get your interest and principal amount back. A junk rating means the opposite.

You also need to learn some accounting before talking about business even if you are not a kid. The cash from sale of fixed assets like buildings, furniture and fixtures, land and premises is not included in the profit and loss statement. Its impact is only seen in the Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Statement. Therefore, sales of assets can not be used to fluff up the profit or reduce losses which is derived from the P&L statement. The Profit and Loss Statement has no entry for "Cash from asset sales". Sale of assets only helps in improving the liquidity of assets and it only helps in fluffing up the cash column on the Asset side in the balance sheet. Furthermore, it also reduces maintenance and depreciation costs because companies need to maintain a provision for depreciation and maintenance annually for each of their fixed asset like machinery, buildings and vehicles in order to replace them at their expected expiry.
Using words like "stock", "debt" and "investment" that may seem fancy to a layman does not makes you look smart because your posts are devoid of any sound business and accountancy knowledge.
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Hicken  +   684d ago
Holy Hell, Asim. Don't hurt him too badly!
kopicha  +   684d ago

well there is a major difference here. Sony bought studios which make games for PS platform with good track record. Microsoft pay to buy 3rd party contents to make their platform difference from their competitors. Even to the extend of buying out games that are "supposed" to be multiplat game which end up separating the gamer groups. That is the difference. Doing the same thing can be with a good sense or evil sense. Just like inside inFamous where you can finish the game regardless being Good / Evil but the outcome can be a little different here. You sacrifice yourself for others or you sacrifice others for yourself. There one is Sony and one is Microsoft's doing despite both doing the same thing.
Lolyta  +   684d ago
Hating on Sony isn't worth it my friend , if there's one company that deserve the hate out of all companies in the world it would be the company you love , Yes its Micro$oft "the collectors" and the money hungry pigs who involve themselves in a very arrogant dirty business manner that blows my mind
You hate the wrong company fellow , Go read about M$ black history and you know why WE ALL hate on this company so bad , take a chill pill , relax and enjoy gaming , its not worth it to defend companies like this
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Belasco  +   685d ago
Your message could have used a few more commas, but I do get your meaning.
Unreal01  +   685d ago
106%?! It was already selling amazingly, and to sell better than the Xbox One during the Titanfall launch. Congrats Sony.
Ezz2013  +   685d ago | Funny
*After this news*

EA: Guys, keep clam because we are stupid
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T2  +   685d ago
Hell even mg gz is number 2.. EA is crying in their tissues now
italiangamer  +   685d ago
Can't wait to see how many copies Infamous sold in the first week. To me it could have sold more than 1 million copies, what do you guys think?
kingdom18  +   685d ago
I thought that was already announced?
Applejack  +   685d ago
Well considering that it had over 1 million pre-orders before it released, I'd say you're right lol.
Paulie_gualtieri  +   685d ago
Wasn't the million pre-orders just a rumor?
I'd keep expectations low and be pleasantly surprised instead.
TheEnigma313  +   685d ago
@ Zeldass

It had a million pre orders worldwide. It had 350k in the US alone.
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Paulie_gualtieri  +   685d ago

Where was the official statement? The source?
All there is, is this low tier website that says his "Amigo" at SCE told him so.

Not doubting, just saying it is literally a rumor at this point.
WeAreLegion  +   685d ago
We'll never know, honestly. That 1 million includes digital pre-orders and they aren't tracked by MediaCrate or VGChartz. :/
AceBlazer13  +   685d ago | Well said
Now this ladies and gentlemen is a system seller.No price cuts,specials,freebies or any of that.Just a game and a console. Well done Sucker Punch, these guys came ready to go up against the big dog(Naughty Dog) this gen.Applause, beautiful game.
Mikelarry  +   685d ago
"these guys came ready to go up against the big dog(Naughty Dog) this gen"

thou shall not blaspheme, NAUGHTY DOG ARE GODS :)
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MELMAN26  +   685d ago
While this is awsome for Sony and amazing that the game has contributed tremendously to the ps4 sales (106% wow), lets not pretend as if Sony hasn't left ps4 owners clamouring for a AAA game to come along.

Imagine being on a desert island with no water, then someone shows up with a gallon full of it. You would probably give your left pinky for it.

Never said that Infamous wasn't a good game, I haven't played the new one yet, so I cannot speak on it, but imagine if the xbox only launched with Forza and Max Curse of Brotherhood, then all of a sudden Titanfall drops.....can you imagine how the sales would be?
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gamingisnotacrime  +   685d ago
Ps4 is barely getting out of its launch window. Infamous is a great game and having it so close after launch is all good news. Dont act as if this isall a conspiartion to delay games and creat demand
DanielGearSolid  +   685d ago
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Applejack  +   685d ago | Well said
You're half right. There's a reason why both Infamous SS and Titanfall will be the highest selling exclusive on both platforms. It's because theses consoles are still relatively new and haven't had many games out yet regardless of what you say about it.
Silly Mammo  +   685d ago
Like X1 owners with Titanfall?
Crystallis  +   685d ago
"""lets not pretend as if Sony hasn't left ps4 owners clamouring for a AAA game to come along""

What!!!, the PS4 has only been out about 5 months. You expect Sony's to put of its tipple A exclusive in 5 months? You xobx fans are a great representation of MS, no patience. I guess that's why MS buys 3rd party exclusives.
FunAndGun  +   685d ago
It was more like being on a desert island with a gallon of water, then someone shows up with a gallon of coconut water in the form of inFAMOUS.
gamingisnotacrime  +   685d ago
Bubbles up, u hit the critical points that set appart the ps4 and xone. No tricks, just great console and great game
WeAreLegion  +   685d ago
To be fair, Sucker Punch is a much smaller studio. They don't have the resources or manpower that Naughty Dog does. The fact that they can turn out games as big as Second Son floors me.
Blackleg-sanji  +   685d ago
Yea i did research on their studio its not very big but the fact they can push out such a game so early in the life cycle is anazing
Applejack  +   685d ago
Yeah, I believe Sucker Punch only has between 80-90 employees while Naughty Dog has many more between two teams. Regardless, this game is amazing in every way.
TheEnigma313  +   685d ago
@ Blackleg-sanji

SP has been working on this title for a few years. There were rumors about them working on this right after Infamous 2. They were working on it before ps4 was announced. I'm happy Infamous is finally getting it's just due.
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GentlemenRUs  +   685d ago
No stopping it now!
mark3214uk  +   685d ago
any ps+ stats around? bet they have sold loads since ps4 launch
TheEnigma313  +   685d ago
I'm sure. PS plus to too good of a value to pass up.
josephayal  +   685d ago
selling like hotcakes, they will sell about 35 million by the end of the year
Applejack  +   685d ago
If you're talking about ps4 consoles, that is seriously pushing it. However, I would welcome eating crow if that were true!
DCfan  +   685d ago
Glad to see that there still people who think rationally. :)
kneon  +   685d ago
They would be lucky to produce half that many by the end of the year.

You don't just turn up production like turning up the volume on your TV. It takes time and money to ramp up production and you don't want to do that unless you know that level of demand can be sustained for some time.
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MannGamer  +   685d ago
LMAO, how did you even get 16 Agree. You should have put a happy face or add a message to make it look like you were having fun or jocking around lol.
Honestly I see minimum 15 , maximum 20 millions PS4 by the end of the year.
PS4 seems like they are about to dominate this gen and it won't be even close.
merciless  +   685d ago
And people didn't believe me and seriously couldn't fathom how infamous would possibly beat titanfall in next gen sales? When they get that sucker punch or sce announcement (today or this week) that Infamous has sold a million and realize that the XB1 system seller hasn't cracked a million yet...

I predict a lot of tears!!! They would have bet their life that overhype = sales. A 720p + 72p =792p game running on an old as hell engine with frame rate drops down to zero if more than 3 titans are on screen at the same time VS that next gen goodness? This is going to be a crazy week in gaming history. Stay tuned!
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jay2  +   685d ago
And me bud! says it all really.
Kiwi66  +   685d ago
where are the reports showing that TF framerate drops to zero please enlighten us
DigitalRaptor  +   684d ago
The bots were saying the same thing about Xbox 720, and claiming Sony couldn't afford to make another powerful console to beat MS in the upcoming eighth generation. They've been saying a lot of things.

Anyway, I think it will be interesting to see the final statements from Sony and MS. It will be interesting to see inFamous completely outsell Titanfall on the Xbone (which it will), but I suspect it will also outsell the game on both platforms. If Titanfall had broken a million, MS and EA would be shouting that from the roofs.

If this is the "most anticipated game of 2014", with a tremendous budget and marketing campaign, with tons of manufactured hype behind it, and essentially the single game MS has put their cards into for Xbone, I'd say that's a pretty worrying result. For both MS and EA.
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Belasco  +   685d ago
Good thing, I was starting to worry /s
Speak_da_Truth  +   685d ago
yeah this is a true system seller no price cuts, including the so called "system seller" for free with the console. and over hype marketing just the game(infamous) and the most powerfull console in the world(ps4)
candy_mafia  +   685d ago
After just 1 night with Delsin....

I'm totally in love with Sucker Punch, just like I'm totally in love with Naughty Dog....Cooooh

Congratulations Sony :)
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Ittoryu  +   685d ago
Well guess xbone owners weren't right. Im impressed I expected an increase but not 106% wonder if will see a US price cut now with another free game for xbone?
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ncc-017  +   685d ago
Now they will put all their eggs in the Halo basket and probably another price cut with the game bundled in for free.
Ittoryu  +   685d ago
That would be a real signal they are worried. I see a price cut by unbundling the kinects before that.
Kribwalker  +   685d ago
Of course it jumped up that much, sony was holding back supplies until infamous launched. And saying no bundles ect is BS. To buy a ps4 and get it relatively soon you had to buy the infamous bundle. You can go onto right now and buy a ps4 bundle, but can't buy a standalone system.
Applejack  +   685d ago
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Dlacy13g  +   685d ago
@Applejack... you sure as heck seem to have found some standalone systems on both Amazon and Best Buy. You must have used magic though...according to above no such systems exist.
Longshot28  +   684d ago
Nitrowolf2  +   685d ago
I. Thought those weren't official bundles? There's a difference between that, if this isn't official like my killzone ps eye one was from Walmart it means you are charged each piece for a subtotal rather than one big price like on bundles. So despite it only being available as is, you are basically buying it in separate pieces.
That's what people mean by no bundle, these infamous sales are tracked unlike sometimes bundles
SynestheticRoar  +   685d ago
Selling better than a certain media hype bundle. Sony true balling.
Blackleg-sanji  +   685d ago
Infamous is such a great game man i hope sucker punch are very proud!!! Im on my second playthrough as evil on expert great game
Applejack  +   685d ago
Nice, I'm still on my hero play through and having so much fun just exploring that I forget to do the missions lol.
jay2  +   685d ago
sebzhd  +   685d ago
OMG. M$ will never see the top after titanfail... White flag spotted, just borrow Nintendo's one.
Dlacy13g  +   685d ago
Lets hope the bump in sales for all the platforms is real.
DanielGearSolid  +   685d ago | Well said
I'm impressed, for a few reasons...

Singleplayer only in a currently Multiplayer focused industry (as far as mass appeal)

No free copies given away

106% increase without any price drops

Considerably less hype from media outlets than Titanfall
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Blackleg-sanji  +   685d ago
You jus typed everything i was thinking good job man
Bobets  +   685d ago
Well I guess overhyping another military shooter didn't really do some black magic time laps bullshit that was suppose to have erase PS4 lead in an instant according to some fanboys hmmm.....
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Applejack  +   685d ago
Yeah, it definitely was overhyped but it isn't such a bad game if you're into FPS.
kalbo14  +   685d ago
good job for Sony and SuckerPunch
MasterCornholio  +   685d ago
Yep gotta be all those Infamous bundles.

Good job Sony.
Xdone  +   685d ago
Not good bro, its damn good job.


Titan has fallen Master, a great day indeed.
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xJumpManx  +   685d ago
Great game just finished it first infamous I actually enjoyed. Now back to Titanfall.
Applejack  +   685d ago
Who are you trying to fool?
Saito  +   685d ago
Your pathetic attempt was well..pathetic.
xJumpManx  +   685d ago
Exactly how was the Pathetic Saito. I finished a single player game took about 13 hours and now I am going back to the multiplayer game. I do not want to play the evil side so once thru is enough for me.
Saito  +   684d ago
You're just terrible at every turn. Everything you say is a farce. I see through your design weak human.
ShinnokDrako  +   685d ago
Good. An amazing game for an amazing console, congratulation to sucker punch.
hkgamer  +   685d ago
It could be infamous. Or it could be that Sony was able to double the amount of PS4 stock in the UK last week.

If I''m not mistaken PS4 stock is pretty much still sold out in UK right? I still haven't really seen it around stores.
TristanPR77  +   685d ago
Guys, remember that first week for Infamous is just only 3 days since it released last Friday. You cannot compare first week sales of Titanfall vs Infamous because Titanfall first week was composed of 6 days vs Infamous 3 days.
DanielGearSolid  +   685d ago
Interesting didn't know that
gazgriff2k12  +   685d ago
another interesting fact titanfall 1 or 2 will come to ps4 and be superior compared to xbone version . infamous ss will never be on xbone (may even be impossible lol). comparison over
Clarence  +   685d ago
Is it possible that infamous SS could outsell titanfall? That would be a real blow to M$.
DigitalRaptor  +   684d ago
Consider this.

Are we sure Titanfall has even hit a million yet, cause otherwise EA and MS would be ready to shout that to the world if it had.

Second Son will definitely outsell the Xbone version of Titanfall that's for sure. It had more pre-orders by a large margin, and PS4 has a larger install base. It really depends how much the PC version sold and how much MS is expecting the 360 version to sell.

They seem to have put their all into Titanfall to make it the Xbone killer-app, but from what I've seen, hype has taken a nose-dive and performance in relation to the competition is not that great considering what MS invested into it, and it's a multiplat after all.
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Clarence  +   685d ago
All this without a price cut, or free copy with purchase of a console.
bigboss1990  +   685d ago
Yippie kie yay lol
TheTowelBoy  +   685d ago
It's probably been said, and probably here to boot, but this really is impressive. It goes to to show that games(the blockbusters) really do sell hardware. And it's great to hear. With Titanfall and infamous already giving lots of people reasons to buy these consoles it's exciting to see it happen so damn fast! E3 baby, E3!
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