A very interesting turn of events. Forza 5 1080p/60fps Demo was NOT running on an Xbox One. It was running a PC powered by Nvidia GTX Titan Blacks.
This comes directly from Nvidia Official :)
Well IGN said it looked exactly like the Xbox One version so i guess this is a complement?
LOL @ your denial!!! Developers need to cut the crap this generation and start showing console footage from the get-go instead of trying to fool people with suped-up PC footage. Can't wait until more console exclusive games are released so we can see what titles will actually look like. Edit: I think regardless of what side gamers are on,we can all agree this needs to start happening.
Right but even MS said themselves DURING the presentation that is was easy to port Forza 5 from Xbox One to PC only using 4 people... You guys need to troll harder, seriously! This was a PC tech demo from the start lol
@thereapersson You mean like Infamous Second Son that looks as good and in some cases better than the E3 build? Or Killzone that was upgraded from both the February PS4 unveiling and the E3 build to release? Yeah Forza 5 was downgraded (and Watch Dogs looks like it might have been) but don't say it's the norm when there's no proof of it.
DX12 seem to benefit PCs, not really Xbox One. Even CPU 50 percent boost was specifically for PC on the slide.
Lol. Its funny watching people desperately try and use something they haven't even attempted,to understand as ammunition againt ms in their trolling crusade. the whole,point of the tech demo,was,to,demonstrate the easy portability of console-level performance, by a small team with limited dev time, using dx12. but look, the blatant trolls get all the disagrees, and the people trying to explain it to them get all the disagrees. Welcome to n4g, where up is down, black is maroon, and idiots are the smartest men alive.
Well, MS has never been keen on showing Forza 5 on their console anyway.
lolCHILLbro, Yeah, it looks exactly like it. Yet it just doesn't perform like it, which is the whole point here.
I still don't get it. When Forza was presented at E3, was it running on a PC already? So why does this proves DX12 capability right now? Doesn't this mean that DX12 is already ready? So why release it in 2015? This is just to weird to make any sense.
NOPE! most demos run on a PC. means NOTHING! (Still wasting money on an overpriced Titan is see, hope the demo was running at 4K resolution at least)
"most demos run on a PC. means NOTHING!" True...in a way. The original Titanfall announcement was running on a PC and look how far below target that turned out for PCs so that meant nothing. @Uzumaki below, Yep. Its not just a river in Africa anymore.
have you ever thought about Nvidia giving MS a Free Titan to run the demo ?? Nvidia was working with for almost 4 years talking about DX12 so i bet the Titan belongs to them not the Dev team working on Forza5
I personally am a little disappointed in microsofts dx12 demonstration today. Not much info was given, and this silly forza thing. Admitingly I'm no computer expert but was hoping for so much more...
Everybody here is gonna be screwed if they ever change the name of that river...
Deal with it. "“….the new API with a tech demo of the Xbox One racing game Forza running on a PC powered by an NVIDIA GeForce Titan Black. In addition, our software team has provided a driver to game studios to facilitate further design feedback as well as actual game development.” Read more: http://wccftech.com/forza-5...
This was the intention. Turn10 worked on the port to run on directx 12 for pc, they state it themselves. Read the presentation quotes. This is flamebait, there is no deceiving going on. These Journalists need to research a little better.
All true, but it's still a pretty odd choice to showcase a game that was already 1080p60 on the console. "Look what directX 12 can do! It's forza on much more powerful hardware, looking pretty much the same as before!" <slow clap>
Well.. The point of the demo is showcasing dx12.. Which is also for PCs. Unless they represent it as Xbox footage.. There is no argument to be had here
if forza is not available on PC, then it can be seen as being represented as xbone footage.
I guess so.. I would assume people that follow this news knows better..
@above Title was changed, originally it was rumoring forza 5 on pc. Not denying this fact if the titan
It's not a bad thing porting from directx11 to 12 can take up to 4 months think of it as a good thing. And porting from x1 to pc pc to x1 is easier
Forza Motorsport 5 on the XBOX ONE already: Runs 1080p 60fps. Someone should tell the author Mr. Syed that. And, to view Digital Foundry for verification.
holy no way they would do this right now. no...way...
Most of Microsoft's games last E3 were also running on PC's as well so this isn't surprising. They openly tricked people into believing that the PC versions of the games they were demoing were indicative of what they would look like on the Xbox One which have obviously been proven false. If you look or Google search or Yahoo search it's not hard to find pictures of the demo kiosks with PC's in them and a few pictures of people opening then kiosks to reboot the system after a freeze or crash. Microsoft has been caught lying pretty much this whole time so this shouldn't surprise anyone. I personally think it's disingenuous to show a better version of your game than your machine can actually run some people would disagree to each their own. http://www.cinemablend.com/...
Specifically states will not see release. Go ahead and close this topic. http://i.imgur.com/rKFbiZQ....
Actually they've changed the topic to "Forza 5 DX12 TechDemo was running on a Titan Black Powered PC" Why the urge to close topic ?
Turn 10 stated during the presentation, they are console only devs.
Wow DX12 on PC so unexpected not. I'm sorry to say I'm not surprise at the most it's more or less DX12 really meant for PC not console that just going to get an tiny boost!
Titan GPUs ? Isnt those the latest released by Nvidia. They outperform by far both PS4 and XO GPUs.
It would make more sense they used an AMD R9 290 or 290x, those 2 cards are much cheaper than the overpriced Titan and perform just as good in most titles.
Nvidia wont use AMD cards lol.
Even 290s would defeat the purpose of the demo IMO. Of course those cards can run xbox games, that surely doesn't require a new API though because they're far more powerful... The best way to showcase dx12 would have been an xbox one game, or a console game running 11 and 12 on the same hardware. Still, it is 18months away so possibly not ready for that exposure.
foxy, shut up. you are clueless, your comment help no one and it make no sens at all. 1)it was an nvidia presentation so it would not make sens. 2)the card is priced like that for a reason( and it is double precision aka a workstation card) 3)In most title the titan black is faster.
Once again morons who do not know what they're talking about. You do realize the reason Titans are so expensive is because they are high performance computing GPU's with 5.1 Teraflops as well right? But nope! Of course you didn't all you morons know how to do is run your mouth on things you do not understand. They can be used for rendering just as Tesla and other super GPU's can. They essentially are Tesla cards. But why am I bothering? All this must have gone over your head.
...and when OpenGL gets an update, PS4 will be able to achieve 4K :P WHOOOO KNEEW?
You and MisterX can continue to dream about 4K gaming on consoles. Meanwhile, in real life ...
This... Check out @albertpenello's Tweet: https://twitter.com/albertp...
@phil_75 LOL!!!!! Finally.
misterx's "insider" has already claimed penello is wrong about there not being a second (or stacked) GPU...
@ziggurcat MisterX is now calling Microsoft liars. What he doesn't understand is that the Xbox doesn't need some secret hidden (and completely bogus) conspiracy to be a successful machine. He should be focused on getting people excited about games.
4K will never happen on this new consoles.Dx12 features that will end on the xboxone Api is expected to give a 20% boost to the Xboxone;words from Microsoft itself;but the Ps4 Api will evolve too and will get also a great boost!So in the end people that love playing games are the ones that will enjoy all this improvements on both systems,fanboys will keep saying no sense things.
This has to be carsasm
Ummm yeah, the whole talk was about them porting it to PC dx12 lol, so they could benchmark the differences.
Microsoft warming up the xbone "pcs" for e3 ;)
When you've been a crook for so long it's hard to be anything else.
Thought we knew this? It was just to show how API's are different on PC compared to Console and how DX12 was gunna change that. Although I really don't think Forza was the best example especially saying you need a Black Titan to run it makes the demo pretty pointless.
Devs must stop showing game footages on PC.
Nah, just need a disclaimer pointing out it is the PC version. I game on PC and want to know how my games are going to look.
I want to see the same tech demo running on a much less powerful PC, since DX12 was created for efficiency.
Yeh that would be better considering they are trying to brag about efficiency and all you would think they would use an under powered pc and make it run the game better than the xbone
Lol déjà vu. Wil see more pc demos at E3
Deception is the game of Xbox.
Did you even watch the thing, purposely showed Forza running on a PC to show how easy and efficient it was to port the game, they stated that it was PC when they were showing it.
How was this even approved? This article is bs..lol.The writer has got it all wrong. That demo was done to show how easy it is to port between console and pc architecture running the new api (dx12)...it took justs 4 guys a few months to get the game up and running on pc People need to get themselves well informed before talking crap...Read the first and third paragraphs.. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Oh boy. Wispy sack you fail. Try harder... No really try harder.
Great, so release Forza for PC ya jerks.
To the surprise of no one.
To all those thinking this means Forza is coming to PC...its not. The purpose of Forza running on a Titan GPU PC was to show how easy it was to use DX12 and port the game. It took them 4 man months to port Forza to that PC version. 4 man month effort = 1 month for a 4 man team. This shows how flexible and easy to use DX12 is even for NON-AMD chip sets. Conspiracy killed... DX12 is going to be a fantastic tool set for MS developers. "Forza Motorsport 5 Tech Demo – console-level efficiency on PC Forza Motorsport 5 is an example of a game that pushes the Xbox One to the limit with its fast-paced photorealistic racing experience. Under the hood, Forza achieves this by using the efficient low-level APIs already available on Xbox One today. Traditionally this level of efficiency was only available on console – now, Direct3D 12, even in an alpha state, brings this efficiency to PC and Phone as well. By porting their Xbox One Direct3D 11.X core rendering engine to use Direct3D 12 on PC, Turn 10 was able to bring that console-level efficiency to their PC tech demo.
"Forza Motorsport 5 is an example of a game that pushes the Xbox One to the limit with its fast-paced photorealistic racing experience. " What? That game was a massive donwgrade of the E3 footage! If this is the limits of what Xone can archieve at 1080p60fps then $500 is not a fair price!
Not surprised at all.
Sorry but do you know even why they showed it on the PC? he purpose of Forza running on a Titan GPU PC was to show how easy it was to use DX12 and port the game.
Why a Titan though? If DX12 is supposed to make a game run better, why use one of the most powerful GPU's you can get. Why not show a weaker one? It's just weird.
@Skate-AK Forza 5 is a console game made on AMD hardware. They ported the game in 1 month with a 4 man team on to not only PC but on to the latest greatest Nvidia card. That is an impressive feat and at a game developer conference that kind of thing makes waves.
I don't understand why they won't release it on the pc.
I believe they want you to buy an Xbox One. Why doesn't Sony bring their games like Uncharted and The Last of Us to PC? Same story different company.