During a special AMA being held on Twitch, Hideo Kojima commented on the state of gaming in Japan, particularly in regards to the strength of the PS4, the lack of Xbox One, and struggling Wii U.
One word can sum up the reason. Convenience. when you have a smartphone or even a GBA on your person you can get in some game time when needed. It may not be the same experience as sitting down and playing a big theatrical gaming experience but many are finding the time and effort involved with doing so is tough to commit. Even myself I am finding I play only on the weekends because I have just too much happening in my everyday life. And i have lots of games i'd love to finish that i started. Yet throughout the day, a quick game here and there on my phone does wonders. Its like those snickers minis. bite sized and tasty but obviously not the same as a full size. But it hits the spot.
gaming on a phone or tablet has nothing to offer, it's stupid games with no depth in them. i don't really get how can a stupid angry bird be better than The Last of Us.
That's the thing that many dont get. it isnt about if a mobile game is better than a console game. Its about does that mobile game offer something of interest to the person playing. Most console traditionalists think that mobile gaming isnt even worthy of being classified as gaming. That is a very closed minded view of gaming as a whole. sorry to break it to you but even the core cant keep gaming from breaking new boundaries to keep evolving into something bigger...more attainable and approachable by others. Perhaps its my years of experience that helps me appreciate both forms of gaming entertainment.
Casual games in general aren't suppose to have any depth to them. I wouldn't say they are stupid but rather extremely simple. Both Angry Birds and The Last of Us are target at two different types of players. If Angry Birds make more money than TLoU it does not mean Angry Birds is the better game.
between Angry Birds or Wii Party i prefer the last one by far. it's casual and deep gameplay at the same time. a mobile phone will never offer this type of experience, especially the social and co-op part which is the most important thing when i play those "casual" games
Show me a gamer that has found a way to take games like The Last of Us around with them during a day of work, and has found a way to keep the system powered and doesn't mind pausing AT ANY TIME, even during tense moments, and I'll show you a liar. That's why Angry Birds and games of the like have a place; they're quick, short doses of mild entertainment. Just enough to take the edge off of the stress of the day, even if they're not high-grade expensive gaming material. And with the stresses of life, sometimes people just don't have the luxury of playing a long game, even when they want to. Hence, mobile games. You can deny their existence as a valid gaming area all you like, but you'd be speaking to a field of people who are too busy playing Angry Birds to give you a response.XD
F'ing disgrace. smh
I Dont really get into the phone and tablet games but if he mobile like handheld then he's right. People that's always moving around love em. I gamed on my PSP more than my PS3 and PC .
Every time I have to sit on a train or a ferry surrounded by hundreds of grown men and women playing these awful toddlerware smartphone games, I want to start fires.
It's little wonder why "core" gamers get no respect in society.
To be fair when I was in Japan for a week the train was full of 3DS/DS and PSP/PSVITA. Maybe I got lucky lol.
no mini game on smart phone or tablet will NEVER!! replace full game. therefore have nothing to offer as consoles do.
who said anything about replace? Why is it so hard to just see these types of games as: "in addition to"
Can someone tell me when does MGS5:PP take place? is it before or after MGS4? and do we play with Snake or one of his brothers? MGO online will be great to
Oh My God Metal Gear series fictional chronology 1964 – Snake Eater 1970 – Portable Ops 1974 – Peace Walker 1975 – Ground Zeroes 1984 – The Phantom Pain 1995 – Metal Gear 1999 – Solid Snake 2005 – Metal Gear Solid 2007/09 – Sons of Liberty 2014 – Guns of the Patriots The first Five star Big Boss and the second Five revolve around Solid Snake.
Before MGS4. Ground Zeros and Phantom Pain are both set after Peace Walker though. You play Naked Snake/Big boss in both games unless the trailers have been lying.
Can't believe you got disagrees for asking a question.
Japanese people work a lot, so they do not have much time for home console gaming
they've always been working a lot, why just now?
They used to. It's a cultural thing, games are seen as a 'loser' past time in Japan now, only 'Otakus' play core games.
Swear to god. wii u outsell ps4 1week. its like all hell is breaking lose.
Yeah and more and more japanese publisher and Dev's are focusing on mobile it's sad but it makes me glad that 99% of games i play are from the west.
You're starting to see the same thing in the west. Developers like EA, Ubisoft, and other companies are starting to making mobile games - well, more than they were before. They've been making mobile games since the early 2000s when they started becoming popular.
making mobile games IS fine , and we still got tons of AAA consoles games are coming this year thanks to the western publishers. people and publishers in the west still care about consoles.
Pretty sure this trend in Japan has been going on for a while and is not just happening now. Hence why Peace Walker was made for PSP.
I see this as a problem, devs going for the hype train with casual games to get a quick buck and core games getting 0 creativity and quality
It could also mean we see a vita/3ds game by him and I wouldn't be against that.
I think it comes down to japanese gamers and their tastes for games. The kind of games they're into aren't the super immersive worlds and twitch shooters that the rest of the world are into. The kind of games they're into are the kind of games readily available on 3ds and vita, systems they can take on the game with them. The reason the shift is becoming apparent only now is that used to, games on ps1/ps2 weren't possible on a handheld, but now that we see near-ps3 level quality games on a handheld, the appeal of that outweighs any power a home console can put out. Just my theory anyway.
Let's not forget that Japanese devs tried to abandon the Japanese market already before that. Just look at what a horrible westenized mess Resident Evil, Silent Hill or Final Fanatasy turned into and MGS is on it's best way to follow by shifting it's focus to be more westen. Even Castlevania has been turned into God of War, that one is at least still a good game compared to some other failed experiments like FF13.
MGS has always been kind of westernized. Kojima drew from a bunch of western influences. Ever play the original MG games on MSX? You could tell where Kojima got his inspiration. He is a huge fan of American movies and got a lot of his ideas from them for the MGS series. Here is an interesting article: http://www.1up.com/news/koj...
I play the games since the first two MSX games. While there always had been a lot of nods and references to western pop culture and movies, the overal experience and gameplay still always felt Japanese. GZ looks like Splinter Cell and goes after the new favourite western genre the open world game.
My favorite game currently is Radiant Defense. Just can't get enough. Have it on my W8 tablet and Windows phone.
with not a 100% certainty I prolly can blame this on the shooter games that the 14year old minds like to play and have been doing for ages. ps3 era alot more shooter games focused then ps1 and ps2. and you really cant blame me for typing this since almost 90% of the games on ps4 are shooter games,like 1 driving and some other games I guess. No wonder the japanese thinks this way. you can blame this on yourself since your buying em. PS4 era will prolly be 80% shooter games and DLC stuff and the rest is evened out with racing,few hack n slash,fighting games and some adventure games.
I disagree. There are always other genres and experiences. Majority of Japan just didn't want that preferred games on 3DS/VITA and Mobile instead.
Kojima is wrong on one thing, portables has always done well in Japan ever since the original Gameboy came out. It is the mobile phone games that are hampering core gaming in Japan. Also it doesn't help the couch gaming scene when Nintendo themselves are focusing much of their resources to the 3DS. Also it doesn't help that a vast majority of Japanese developers are too focused on westernizing their franchises. Leaving only the niche Otaku publishers to carry on the tradition. Keiji Inafune was right that the Japanese gaming scene is in a sort-of a decline. The move to HD, the slow development cycles, and the insistent move to mobile (looking at you Squarenix). If they want to revitalize the console gaming scene in Japan they have to start making games on consoles like they use to. The PS4 and the Wii U can be the start of that rebirth but they have to make the games.
I get equal pleasure playing games such as Rymdkapsel, Impossible Road, and GBA emulation on my phone, as I do playing games on PC and PS4 - mobile gaming is just as relevant a medium, even if it doesn't fit with your "opinion"
Portable 3ds and vita sure. Phones and tablets no thanks.
So make a new game for the Vita. A new IP, flex your creative muscles.
Gree aren't exactly going great. It'll be interesting to see what the longer-term situation is after the dust settles.
This is why I argued that Sony should make a deal with google to run an android IS on a new portable gaming/tablet device. Make it very powerful with twin sticks and gamers will have the best of both worlds. Make it fully digital....and watch it fly off the shelves. Launch it with the playstation now app and 3 months of free gaming. It also does remote play and everything the vita does..and can be hooked to the TV like vita tv.
I saw this coming a while ago..that console market is shrinking..not what it used to be.
If mobile games take over, I stop playing. These types of mobile games are complete crap!
That's why Sony and Gaikai are building PlayStation Now.. soon you will be playing TLOU on your smartphone and tablet during lunchtime at work :p
Man, Kojima have really lost the touch with reality.
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