In addition, Jonathan claimed that the PC version looks stunning, that the trailer – and the hands-on event that took place last week – was on PS4, and that the PC version will be – in many regards – better than the E3 2012 build.
Sorry but I can no longer believe anything that Ubisoft says. but if dose turn out to be true then the PC version will be the one I will get.
When they say "next-gen" version is close to PC version, if they gimp the PS4 version because of the XbOne version, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
You do know that PCs are FAR more powerful than the PS4 right? So no the PS4 version wouldn't be "gimped" because of the Xbox... it would be "gimped" because of the PS4.
i think they did gimp the ps4 version on texture lol if that was ps4 version it look ballhead at full 1080p. still imsa get this game tho.
Stop blaming everything on another platform, the PS4 is gimped as it is as none of the exclusive first party games are running @ 1080p and 60fps at the same time. You buy console for the exclusive games and the ease of use and not tech that can be compared to a gaming PC.
It's funny how easily people forget. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes looks better than Watch Dogs (graphically), and runs at native 1080p 60fps on PS4. So no, the Ps4 isn't gimping itself @Irish. Last gen is gimping the PS4 and XBO (yes I know Gz is on the PS3 and 360). Anyways, has anyone seen that 'Share' commercial for the PS4 version of the game? It looks better than the Story trailer.
You misunderstand me. I know the PC version will be the best looking. That's not my point. My point is that the PS4 can run the game better than the XbOne. So really there shouldn't be parity between the two versions. If there is parity, it simply means that Ubisoft gimped the PS4 version because of the XbOne. If that is the case, the I will not financially support a developer who does not develop a game to the highest possible standard on one platform, simply because of the limitatinos of a weaker platform. Firstly they need to clarify which n
after the previous gen , dont expect any clarity of the sort , beyond leaks and intel about resolutions for each versions . That's the game all publishers play now ... instead of owning up to any kind of hardware and software any of both platforms could get , we'll get vague " dont worry X version is awesome anyway" . It doesnt help any of the multiple consoles owners , they'll have to discover it at launch .and they dont care about that , they care about not hurting feelings and perception
Why would you think they would do that? They are making the PC version better because of the extra power the PC offers, so why wouldn't they make the PS4 version better than the XB1 version if they have the extra performance? I think you are worrying for nothing. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the game. I think the concept is intriguing and the gameplay so far has looked very promising. I have no doubt that it will be an amazing looking game. Most AAA Ubisoft games have outstanding visuals--AC4, Far Cry 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist to name a few. Hell, even Rayman Legends looks gorgeous for its genre. Ubisoft make beautiful games.
"PC Version Better Than E3 2012 Build In Many Regards, NG Close To PC" soooo do next gen version look like the e3 build? lol im kinda lost. pc>e3 build so wouldnt ng>= e3 build. ground zero looks like mgs4. not downplaying it, its just mgs4 looks amazing and ground zero looks like it. i doubt the rebuilt their engine for ground zero it maybe in between of what we gonna see for the next game.
Sony fanboy logic: blame everything on the Xbox One.
This what we have in store for next generation games, all the talk about 'gimped' versions, this and that. I'm glad I bought a GTX 780 so that I don't need to worry about all of this confusion of which version is better. Just buy it on PC and play on max settings, and then nothing else needs to be said.
They are just playing the PR game. They can't say the console versions suck compared to PC, and they can't say one console version sucks more than the other. That's impossible for PR. All they can do is make the game the best they can for each platform, and hope it really is the best it can be. That means nobody gimps anyone. If anyone USUALLY gets gimped, it's PC. I'm hoping that is not the case and it's as amazing as it looked 2 years ago and more so as he claims. I don't even care if it's really demanding to reach that as long as the game itself is capable of it, because many will be able to achieve new console or console+ settings now it'll still look good. Then in a year or whatever with better hardware will max it out and play it through again full glory. PC gamers do like to do that. We all did it with Crysis.
i hope not, you know, since ps4 is more powerful i dont understand why the dont just use the pc version and port it to ps4 and then whatver, do what you can with the xbox one, but one console suffering because of the other one is just stupid. developers need to make MS realize how their Xbox One is just not cutting it. They have no shame in talking crap about the Wii U and bashing it all day long, yet the Wii U can pull 1080p 60fps on their first party games. Either way, PC version it is.
All multiplatform games turn out better on PC especially when they're lead platform. just do yourself a solid and invest in a good gaming PC, one part at time if you have to.
its not like you would know
The game started out on PC when it was showcased. It will look better on PC but that if you have the rig to run it. If they can get NG versions closer to PC then fine. They haven't showed any weather effect on next gen consoles and that's a little worrying to me.
all i saw was rain in the 2013 gameplay trailer
Same I do not believe them at all. I have already canceled my ps4 pre order and will wait to see how it looks on PS4 and PC I will make a more informed decision after the game launches.
i believe the ps4&x1 will look the same bro. pc should look good as hell tho..
I've cancelled mine as well. I'll wait & see after it's been released might even change it around & go for PC version instead although I wont be able to play it on the couch then.
Yea I believe the XB1 and PS4 versions will be similar with either Different resolutions or framerates as has become standard fare. I was just really looking forward to this game and the bonus content on PS4..... that said if the PC version looks like it did in 2012 that is the version I will purchase.
Wow! This early into the "next gen" and the PS4 and Xbox One are starting to show their age. Going X86 is beginning to look like a mistake.
x86 has nothing to do with it. What happened is Microsoft and Sony made a business decision to go with AMD who is a budget CPU/GPU/APU manufacturer, because they wanted to make as much money as possible on the millions of fanboys who think Sony/M$ is their friend and does everything for the good of the gaming community. They picked APU's that two years ago would have been considered mid-range, and today they're actually considered for mobile and netbook systems.
You want the best version get the PC version.. You want a version based off limited old hardware, then get the console version. It's not that hard. If your an only console gamer you'll alway be disappointed at games that debut on pc vs your console of choice.
that's a harsh way of saying it but you are true
LOLOLOL You enjoy listening to greedy ass companies that have lied to you in the past before: 1. Why would there be such a HUGE gap between PC and PS4 if PS4 can run most games close to what a PC can right now (dont worry i have a gaming pc and a ps4). 2. Why would they show of the so called "limited console version" if the PC version looked sooooo much better. 3. Why would the PS4 get exclusive content if the version was the worse and why before the PS4 launched were watch dogs and PS4 going hand in hand in most advertising campaigns. 4. If plentey of people were shouting at them for lying previously what makes them suddenly credible now that theyve said the PC is amazing in a PR statement used to convince sheepels like you. 5. Why would AC 4 look way better than the watch dogs downgrade. 6. If you believe them when they say PC is the best you must also believe them when they say console is close but instead you dont. Nice try, I love how PC elitiest's try so hard at every turn to downplay consoles and brag about the 5 extra fps and 2x extra AA they get.
@ Beastforlifenoob Grow up and stop acting like a butthurt fanboy. You don't have to downplay gaming PC's simply because you don't have one.
@kewlkat007 I disagree with what you said, that was very arrogant!
You're all a pack of women. Just shut up and enjoy the f**king game. Any human being who expected the final game to look identical to the E3 2012 reveal is a moron and very naive.
Oh, I'm sorry for expecting what they showed me to be what I got. And, as an old Nintendo fan, I was used to getting exactly what I saw in trailers, sometimes better.
LOL. Best opening line ever. Agree + a Bubble for that.
I really hope there is no parity involved with this game when it comes to the PS4 and XB1. But based on the videos I have seen thus far of the PS4 version, it definitely looks like it has been held back and brought down to XB1 levels. Here's my prediction, the PS4 version will be running at 1080p @30fps, and the XB1 version will be between 720p and 900p @30fps. So while that looks good in favor of the PS4, the kicker is that the texture resolution, AA, and other graphical features will be scaled back to whatever the XB1 can handle, so both versions will essentially look identical. Then there will be a wave of "See, look what that secret sauce did for the XB1, it looks just like the PS4 version!", but this will only be because the PS4 version was held back significantly.
As I said, and as Ubi themselves confirmed, the E3 2012 demo was PC... People yelling downgrade when next gen consoles weren't announced or weren't at developers hands till Dec that year are plain out silly! The PS4 version/ Next Gen Console version didn't debut till the following year... There's no visual downgrade... The PC demo was on a GTX 690 naturally it'll look better than a PS4. Im certain on the 27th of May there will be mass crow eating
The future is PC.
I really hope that's the case.
Did you really believe it? FFS, gamers... You can't believe anything anyone tells you!
Can I believe what you're saying?
Still getting it for the PS4. Exclusive content.
Lol.. Go get a Sony tattoo on you're forehead then.
Funny how Exclusive content for Sony consoles always end up in the PC digital deluxe editions on steam and Uplay anyway.
Well I'm certainly hoping so. I'm sure it'll be a great game regardless.
Everyone's really written this guys off lately. Everything I've seen gameplay wise looks awesome and fun and I'm still completely onboard. You can show me gifs all day of ps3/360/wii-u footage and tell me it's ps4 but I don't believe it. All demos I've watched look great.
You don't need gifs of WD running on unknown platforms, all you need it so familiarize yourself with how Far Cry 3 changed from E3 to release. That's really what we should be asking these Devs. Not "is watch_dogs PC/NG going to look near E3" But actually "how do you feel Far Cry turned out?" I loved FC3, don't get me wrong, but there was some massive downgrades upon release. In hindsight, the FC3 E3 demo must've been running with every bell&whistle imaginable.
Exactly, FC3 demo (amd Bioshock Infinite reveal) show bullshotting exists everywhere
Don't believe that after the recent bad looking videos.
I was getting this game at the PS4 launch before the delay. And was still planning on getting it on PS4, to have more games. But the downgrade is making me think twice. And now they say the PC looks like the 2012 footage. If true then I will get it for PC. What a roller coaster.
Or you can follow the general rule of thumb I've been going by: Always buy a game on PC if a PC version exists, it is not a crappy port, and your pc is decent enough.
I've been doing that with every Multiplatform game for about 4 years now. But alot of PS4 games almost hold there own to PC versions except for framerate. I even buy the PC version of games I get on PS+.
Then show us. I want proof.
Same here! "For what is worth, Morin promised that more PC footage will be revealed prior to the game’s release." We shall see.
The graphics haven't been downgraded. It's called different times of day and weather. Get the same weather (rain) and time of day (night) as the 2012 trailer and you'll see that it's the same or better.
That's right folks, you heard it here first. Ignore the new complete lack of ambient occlusion, the reduction in AA & depth of field, the huge reduction of reflections & clear reduction in polygonal models not to mention the disappearance of volumetric effects. I wish you people would understand what it is your talking about before you open your mouths & not only make yourself look not very intelligent but also providing a way out for the developers that laugh at you for letting get away with it & not get shot down for these type of tactics. This man knows better than the rest of, as these effects are altered by the time of day apparently. Well done sir!
Excuse me sir, I've seen you throwing around those terms in every post about this game since that trailer. Do YOU even know what you're talking about? If you take a close look at the SAME trailer from which that ONE GIF was pulled you'd notice that everything you've mentioned is definitely still there. What about this GIF? https://www.googledrive.com... And this one. http://a.pomf.se/kdvbrc.gif And this one. http://i.minus.com/iAHxbvGb... Those were all pulled recently from the same trailers that came out last week. They don't look gimped, they have all of the things you mentioned pretty much. Volumetric effects and ambient occlusion were easily altered by the visible display of the hack-able bridge being shown to the player at that point. Not to mention the location of the helicopter's spotlight and the position of the helicopter itself must've been different from what was originally shown for their to be any lack of shadows. Depth of field reduction is, and always has been, reduced since the original 2013 trailer, of which most people complained about back then that it didn't look as good as the 2012 trailer. The reflections and polygonal model count of what exactly? In the background of that ONE GIF the lighting still looks great, the reflections still exist but aren't going to be as visible as the GIF due to there being a lack of rain to create such a visible reflection in the first place, and polygonal model count of whom exactly? Aiden? The NPC's around the city? Who's or what polygonal count are you referring to exactly? Aiden's polygon count hasn't changed at all, like people have told you, certain weather conditions and time of day has an effect on this game's art design, it seems like an intentional art design to make it blend in naturally during certain situations when it calls for it. The NPC model count, meh, you can't really expect those to be so high since the other models hardly ever look as good as the main character since they aren't ever really the focal point, so why put in extra hard work for it when it's not needed? The NPC's look fine for what this game needs, they don't need high poly counts.
Again your using cutscenes as a basis to your argument! the last link is the only realtime gameplay footage & that like I said doesn't include any of the features I've mentioned. Volumetric effects & ambient occlusion haven't been altered by the visible display of the hackable bridge - They're completely separate 3D assets. Steering away from the cutscenes, 'ALL' realtime lighting seems to have been removed & is now all pre-baked instead. The easy way to tell that someone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about is that the only thing they see in the released gifs are the bridge. People that know what they're talking about see that the bridge is only a very tiny bit of the problem compared to what else you can see wrong in the images. Obviously again you can not tell the polygonal count just by looking at it that's impossible. You can see however that NPC's have taken a big reduction & in the gif you are talking about with the bridge you can see the car model has taken a major hit I would say a drop of maybe 1/4 even 1/3. That gif is the most questionable on its authenticity because it doesn't even look like it has been rendered correctly in the scene i.e. the lighting is applied in block sections the car itself doesn't even look like its in the scene as there is actually no lighting applied to it at all - This has people mostly concerned because why is that clip even being released in the first place as that's clearly not in an publically acceptable state yet the fact that Ubisoft hasn't even explained this has people worried that maybe they are considering that it is. Which is very worrying as they're taking a massive backlash & it should of taken them 2 seconds to clear up. The fact that they haven't proves there's something very wrong. Especially when you also consider the Aisha Tyler trailer which again seemed like a similar quality which everybody presumed it was alpha footage as it wasn't even up to last gen standards but again ubisoft didn't provide any answers. They've had enough opportunities to stop them getting dragged deeper & deeper down this hole that they're digging for themselves & they haven't managed or even attempted to do so. they're creating business suicide & they've obviously got no way out! I may be completely wrong & only time will tell but something is clearly very, very wrong as they've been working on this now for apparently 6 years & they still cant offer a 2 second explanation to ANY of these problems. P.S I realise I sounded like a complete dick in my initial reply & the majority of my replies around this game but it really irritates me that the reason Ubisoft & other developers are getting away with not having to explain anything is because people are making silly comments like this when they're factually false & developers are using these false claims to acquire more pre-orders. Which is false advertising!
Spot on 1nsomnic. Total absence of AO and lower quality textures stand out like dogs balls. No one likes to call a spade a spade round here. WD clearly looks butt ugly compared with the 2012 PC demo.
you are doing a good jobof lying to yourself. well done
I believed this game was first revealed on PC anyway, so of course the PC version will look as good as the 2012 footage. I haven't bothered looking at videos since the reveal so as not to spoil myself with anything, as such I don't really know what the console versions look like. But I think it'll be a safe bet that the PC version will of course look better, and that the PS4/Xbone versions will be identical to each other, with the possibility of the PS4 version playing at a higher native resolution.
PC gameplay then please. I need to see the receipts.
It will be interesting seeing the comparison video between consoles and pc
People are raging about nothing Please watch the full video and don't preorder any game
ps4 version will be lush, hurry up and release it already - please
Buying this game for PC.
so if the pc version is better than the e3 2012 reveal and the Next-Gen is CLOSE to the PC version, explain the downgraded graphics in the trailer??? By next-gen was he talking about PS5 and Xbox2? wtf
Maybe those were ps3 and 360 gameplay? None of them looked bad, other than that awkward bridge scene.
but if the pc version is better than e3 2012, that should mean the ps4/x1 versions should look on par with the e3 trailer which it doesn't. It's way, way worse.
I look forward to true next generation games on the new consoles where ps3/xbox360 aren't build on as well. In about 2-3 years. I'm reserving my opinion on the Watch Dogs until I see the final product in my PS4. Either way you spin it, it's a big, ambition game. Hopefully the new consoles were given proper treatment.