In EGMR's show, The Bitter Duo, two writers discuss the new gameplay footage of The Order: 1886, and why it failed to make a spectacular impression - with the exception of its visuals.
Yeah, that tiny snippet of gameplay of a game that could still be in development for the next 6 months was probably representative of the entire game, so pre-order cancelled! /s
Didn't notice about the avatar, no problem. I will change later.
Haha, i was only joking dude, i wouldn't seriously ask you to change it ;)
i thought it looked great. just the theme of werewolfs during the times of Jack The Ripper spells something new and has me Sold. and im pretty sure that was just the broccoli, ill wait to judge it when i get a taste of that beef.
The order 1886 is probably my most anticipated game this year, second is infamous SS(which i preordered already)and next would be drive club. Im sure the next time they are going to us some gameplay its going to wow us even more.
contrary to this bitter duo, I'm loving the concept that they've shown so far. and with no MP planned, I'm intrigued to see what the story is all about. RAD has made excellent GoW games on the PSP and they made Daxter too which easily sits in my favourite PSP games list.
Just off the top of my head I can list a number of games that had great first impressions, but later turned out to be crap - Alien Colonial Marine and HAZE come to mind. But then again how many games have had lackluster firt impressions but went on to be phenomenal games. Demons Souls and Dark Souls come to mind here. Heck look at Watchdogs, great first impression - not so great second impression. In other words, it's a bit pre-mature to make start making judgement calls on unfinished games.
Funny thing is I could have sworn when the gameplay leaked as gifs there was nothing but excitement for The Order. It wasn't until the actual gameplay trailer came out in it's entirety that people felt disappointed that it's a "generic 3rd person shooter." Anyone that has been following what [email protected] had been revealing about The Order knows that the gameplay trailer didn't show most of the things they talked about such as destructible environments, the unique weapons, the different types of enemies such as the 'werewolves', open areas (which some screens have shown), and I'm probably forgetting some other stuff too.
Game is coming out in less than year and it has been almost a year since they announced it. And the best they could show off was that tiny uninteresting glimpse of gameplay, so you see where he's coming from.
I also thought they showed too little but c'mon man, you know they're teasing.
I still stand by what I said earlier come E3 a lot of journalists are going to have to eat some serious crow.
As far as what? I didn't catch your earlier comment. Thanks
@Lukas Seems you are quite... the joker. 8D
Hi, jo ker
Anyone who looked at that gameplay and wasn't impressed is a moron. It seems these morons have taken the same view that Colin Moriarty at IGN has. That this short snippet of gameplay is representative of the entire game.... Even though we have already heard of many different gameplay mechanics.
Well isn't that the point? They don't just show their stuff just for the hell of it.
In all honesty, I liked The Order: 1886 graphics but I didn't find the gameplay anything special. Well it's too soon to judge.
Did you get to play it?
A first impression is a first impression. These guys cannot speak for how the game may or may not change for the better future. All they can do is report on the current status and how do you feel about it. There is absolutely no reason for anybody to get defensive and or sarcastic about this first impression. Nobody is condemning the game based on a first impression, that said, this impression is as valid as the next positive one.
I agree that they are fully entitled to their opinion of this first impression. I also feel that people are being a bit too defensive. However, I also feel like judging anything from a 2 minute tease with less than 15 secs. of actual gameplay is a bit short-sighted. It's really just the nature of the beast on the internet. People attack and people defend. Which creates this cycle of being defensive and wanting to attack. Not saying that it's right, especially considering that most of us are supposedly "adults". But, it is what it is. As for me, I wasn't overwhelmed with positivity nor was I disappointed. But, I didn't go in with any expectations. I LOVE the concept and the art style. I am excited to see what they release when we can get some actual, hands-on gameplay footage.
Priceless... LoL I think I will Order the Order. ; )
I've seen WAY more pre-alpha demos that not only ran better but also showed off their new interesting game mechanics and/or set pieces way better. https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... ^ this is how you show off a game that's in development. Unlike the Order 1886 none of these pre-apha demos have framerate issues. Like these guys put it, the order 1886 demo they showed was like a pretty girl that makes you fall asleep when you talk to her and it didn't show anything interesting concerning the characters, gameplay comes first before graphics, any day of the week. Hence the reason why people are defending the fact that Dark Souls 2 got a significant graphics downgrade compared to last year's footage.
Irrelevant links, they are completely different games with different devs, different deadlines, different in every single way. To compare them at their alpha stages to The Order in it's alpha stage is illogical. I saw you in the comments sections of the preview opinion piece stealth trolling, just like you're doing here. Give it a rest, the developers themselves assured us that the part of the game they showed off was completely unoptimised and not QA tested at all. If that's all Ready At Dawn felt they could show, then that's all they could show, as i already said...the game still has a lot of time in development and we have seen VERY little. How about we actually give the devs the benefit of the doubt here? We ask for new IP's all the time and the moment we get one we scrutinize 2 minutes of gameplay footage that couldn't possibly be enough to form an opinion of the entire game. Personally, if that's what the game looks like in alpha and only has a few hiccups, then im very excited. Can't wait to see more at E3. But i know you don't really care about this game, you're just trolling.
i didnt knew people could have an impression of a teaser. that like someone saying hi, and you already have an opinion.
It takes 7 seconds to make a first impression when it comes to human interaction s so your metaphor is flawed.
Naw that's usually a bad habit. People jump to conclusion doing that. You actually have to take time and get to know. If I did that to all the games I didn't like after a teaser or the first 10mins of playing I would of missed out on a lot of great games
I almost shed a tear when The Witcher 3 devs announced that game wouldn't be coming out in 2014. If The Order:1886 gets pushed to 2015, I'll definitely start crying.
I'm hoping to see more of this game, but when it was revealed to be a 3rd person behind the back shooter my interest did drop a little. But I love the setting, style and steampunk theme it has going for it. I wish they would show more of this game and soon.
third person, is the best way to play shooters lol, i luv seeing the body of the person.
that's what she said (?)
Is it time to take a dump on the Order? Nah, been to much dumping on games lately on here.
A lot of people just love to be negative and hate on things.
So you would prefer that they keep the impression to themselves? No negative impression is to be shared because you are tired of games being dumped on? What exactly are these games that bean dumped on in recent times?
More like the "silly" duo. LooL.
Everything I've seen of the game looks great, not revolutionary but I love a story driven experience.
i agree with you..
I thought it looked great so far. I like the Gear of War cover/style of fighting. Can't wait for this!
exactly look good can't wait. lol its funny how ppl have bashed this game because it was still a traditional third person shooter game. how can devs really change whats been dun up tel now?. unc4 will play like a traditional third person gm, halo will play like a traditional fps game, just with there own story to tell. lol grasp and gasp ppl. can't wait for this game..
Not a fan of third person shooters.
Just a fan of commenting on them.
I bet if it was a xbone game it would be getting praised. But people have unrealistic expectations for PS4 games. That's why KZSF was trashed and reviewers will trash ISS.
sadly but true because lets be honest first person shooters have dominated majorly in the US and Uk as well as other westernize countries and will always receive more praise depending on the franchise/game than the abnormal. It's a shame because shooters have over-flooded the gaming market that most average consumers go with the trend that is play a fps with friends online. You'll have a few who get curious about other games but since fps have been so saturated that's all that most ppl know.
Um..........no it didn't still buying it day 1
What's up with the game community I mean for those who want to say...hey look at those gears of war mechanics...nope wrong gears of war didn't even invent those mechanics so please shut it. Second any developer can use said mechanics to their pleasing as long as the game itself brings in new things that you don't usually see. It just seems like the gaming community just bashes first before even playing the game.....seems to be the in thing now and days.
I know a lot of people complained about floaty and clunky looking shooting but I actually like that, I'd prefer cumbersome shooting with a little character to perfect fast arcade shooting. Still, I am getting sick of how everything in gaming is so Michael Bay and this game doesn't look to change that much beyond the surface. It seems we either get chin stroker 'experiences' in which we stare at an 8bit cube while listening to a man read poetry or we get hammy Michael Bayathons in which the cast of Team America run around in different costumes blowing things up and making wisecracks about getting too old for this shit. It's either pure abstract arthouse or pure popcorn disposability. Gaming desperately needs a middle ground. Artistic but not arthouse, entertaining but not disposable. Gaming needs its own Coen Brothers or Stephen King. Of course we get a few good experiences that slip through the cracks but for the most part it's just one of those two extremes and along with the threequels and quadrupiquels it makes me bored with the whole scene. I feel about the Order the same way I feel about almost every game on the horizon, which is, 'yeah, looks impressively made but it doesn't excite me'.
I thought, from what I've seen sofar, the game looks solid. IMO a great premise/setting and from the looks of things it has solid gameplay. Nothing really revolutionary/innovative but The Last of Us' gameplay and setting wasn't innovative/fresh at all either and it turned out to be the best game I played last console gen. I guess it will all come down to the story, level of detail, execution, production values, etc. Ready at Dawn created (some of) the best PSP games. The PSP was no gameplay friendly machine imo (1 stick, few buttons). So I look forward to see what they can do with their own new IP on a more gameplay friendly console system...
Still Day 1 for me.
I didn't see much in gameplay but the game did look good. I still not sure how it really plays based on just that video. Maybe they are waiting for better promo
This is my thought as well. There was just too little actual gameplay to say anything more than it's a TPS with what looks to be a loose cover system and some QTE's thrown in. I believe that R&D probably planned this to an extent. I am sure that they will have something polished and playable around the time of E3. Maybe they'll even take the stage. IMO, it was just like any other early teaser. It was short on gameplay and focused on graphics.
I still think this game looks like an enhanced Gears of War. Gameplay is remarkably similar. I hate when people say 'this game does not innovate....not everything has to be completely innovative. None of this is a bad thing. Gears were great games and was a system seller for XBox. Clearly Sony put the orders out for their a Gears game. The presence of QTEs is kind of disappointing. However, the real killer for this game is the lack of multiplayer. That was Gears greatest strength and sent people running for DLC. The vs. and co-op were amazing. It really extended the life of the games. That would be my major concern for this.... Once yo beat the game, not much reason to play again.
LooL. So, when you play a SP game, you never play the story again. If it has MP, you're stuck on it and if it doesn't, you put it in a bin, right. Just get lost. LooL
They should've done what Naughty Dog did with the TLOU's first gameplay demo. I knew I just had to play it after seeing it. It showed what the game had to offer. (They didn't even show any infected for crying out loud) Edit: Well I guess maybe they're waiting on E3.
Asshat Duo is more like it... It is nothing but trolling and talking about the first gameplay video of a game not being launched in a long time... I think these guys know that targeting a great prospective game and passing judgement on it... they know that they will get hits. There is no value in either of these kids perspective.
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