Emulators and Roms are illegal

Metin Ismail of Gamer Attitude makes a shocking discovery when he looked into emulations and ROMs.

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PoSTedUP1622d ago (Edited 1622d ago )

Great work, Columbo.

lelo1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

Most of these kids won't know who Columbo was.

diehllane1621d ago

He discovered America, right?

SilentNegotiator1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

You're underestimating the average age on this site. The average gamer is like 20 something to 30 something (depending on what study you look at) and I can't imagine that a gaming community is that wildly off from the average. No need to further the stereotype of gamers being children.

He even got 21+ agrees and a "funny" bubble, clearly a lot of these "kids" DO know what Colombo is.

PoSTedUP1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

@diehllane- loool, funny. but maybe youre not joking? if so then, nope! you got the wrong guy. :P

@lelo: possibly, maybe theyre thinking of Columbus bc of the word "discovery" in the disription, haha.

Neonridr1622d ago

Next article - Smoking can kill you.

SilentNegotiator1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

*Cigarette falls out of gasping mouth*

One day you're just minding your own business, copying that floppy and smoking a cig and you find out that one is illegal and the other will kill you. This day just keeps getting worse!

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7771621d ago

Hate to break this to you, but yes. Smoking will make you croak faster than a contestant at a food eating contest!

DarkBlood1622d ago

*scratches head* well i like to think after 20 years emulating old games should be fine, not like you'll find it in store shelves brand spanking new or anything.

dcj05241621d ago

Exactly lol. SEGA doesn't make a cent when I buy sonic the hedgehog on Amazon.

star1291620d ago

So when you have too pay(if you have an SNES) sometimes over 200USD for each of these games Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger and such too get them for the original systems. No way no one would pay that execpt the true fanatic of those games.
But why should for example the owners of those who bought them in the past have too pay for a converted copy to Virtual Consoll they already own the game.

Second the emulators does more for the games themself then it´s original system. Take the Dolphin emulator that enhancing Gamecube and Wii games to thier fullest potencial. To play those games in 1080p with great upscaling.
Why did not Nintendo incorporate these features in Wii U whithout us have to pay a single penny for it. I do not think for a second that this BS.From either Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony that thier systems is not backwards compatible "not for a second". I mean, What could those emulator makers do with OXBOX. The could make OXBOX run Sonys system Playstation game on it. If they could do that too that system(often singlehanded) Those companys can do it too. They are just being stuborn, greedy, or nonlistening to what we gamers really want from future systems.

Dark_Overlord1622d ago

Hate to break it to you but emulators ARE NOT illegal, most don't even have a shred of the original code involved (although some do require the BIOS) and as such are classed as the coders own work.

Of course Nintendo are going to say something like that, they're the biggest lobbyists of anti gaming piracy around.

Th4Freak1621d ago

Roms/backups aren't illegal either as far as its a backup from your disk/card and not from someone else its basically the same than ripping a CD/DVD, as far as you don't distribute it its not illegal and this is why Microsoft came with the Xbone policy that you own the disk but not the content.

diehllane1621d ago

Well... ripping a CD can be considered illegal if you're changing the content format.

Th4Freak1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

@diehllane True but we're talking about backups.

Omegasyde1621d ago

I thought you had to have proof of purchase i.e. reciept of original copy?

I sware the DMCA has some kind of stupid clause now. I think a personal back-up is still authorized if it falls under fair use i.e. you don't share it.

However, it seems they keep amending the DMCA each year that it's hard to keep up on how they determine "Fair Use".

rainslacker1621d ago (Edited 1621d ago )

You can make a copy of your personal copy of any media available. For games however, it is usually not within the terms of service to be able to use that backed up software on the original device it was intended for. The software itself is also not typically licensed to be used on a device other than the one it was written for(or compatible devices in the case of backwards compatibility). This is why Nintendo can get sanctions against those cards which hold roms, because they're intended to work on one of their devices and it's not licensed to do so. Same with mod chips, although they themselves are not illegal as it isn't illegal to modify you're own brought hardware. It used to not be illegal to play you're own backups with them, but I haven't followed that scene for quite a while, so not sure where it is now. It is certainly illegal to have a copy of something you don't own and use it on a modded system though.

Emulators are a tricky business. The emulator itself is not illegal. However, the bios typically needed to run said emulator is copyrighted work. Thus actually using the emulator to run software is copyright infringement. As far as I know, there is no way to write ones own bios code that has no copyrighted work from the original bios, but I guess it is possible.

Some of these issues have been getting closer looks by the courts over the years as they've finally become more prevalent. To date, the courts have pretty much not taken a real stance on the issue. Last major one was last year when the courts passed down a judgement(can't remember the actual term) that it was not legal to jailbreak the PS3. However that particular ruling has not been tested in actual litigation.

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Snookies121621d ago

Yeah, as long as it's mostly your own coding, an emulator is not illegal. It EMULATES, it's not a carbon copy of the hardware. Roms are another matter entirely, though I pretty much only get roms of games that I've bought in the past. If it's a game I never got to check out that's 2 generations behind the current one though, I might grab it to see if it's any good. I never grab anything I haven't bought past PS2 era though.

NarooN1621d ago

Exactly, they aren't illegal at all. E.g., with PCSX2, the PS2 emulator, the emulator comes with everything you need to get it running, except the BIOS, which you need to rip yourself, which means you need to have your own PS2 to legally use the emulator. Same with games, you need to own the original disc and make your own backups to play them legally.

So long as you own the original console (if a BIOS is required) and you rip your own backups of the games, then you're good to go. If PCSX2 were illegal, Sony would've ordered a cease and desist ages ago. I regularly speak with some of the PCSX2 devs, and they've told me that Sony has been well aware of their work for many years now.

Wizard_King1622d ago


Well I never

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