Games with Gold, a program that offers two free games a month to Xbox Live Gold subscribers, will become something "more true" to what consumers want from the program, according to Microsoft Game Studios corporate vice president Phil Spencer.
It's all a waiting game.
"Games with Gold will feel 'more true' to what consumers want in the future." That' great because what Xbox fans want are newer titles. Because at the moment besides a few games (Like Dungeon Defenders this month) its nearly useless. Not because they're bad, or the quality of it really, its because they are so old and majority people already played it. "Games with Gold will feel 'more true'" "More true" being what we wanted from the beginning, newer releases.
I'm big microfan But i think game with gold is poor They release a titles i never heared before the only one good game is tomb raider and its arcade edition
agreed, but why does everthing take time? i mean the future could be years from now..man, gwg really bad and the more time they waste the more people will move on to ps+ where the future is now.
Im glad this guy doesn't listen to the droves of apologists that you get on here professing how much better live is apposed to ps plus. That renting deflection is just that, deflection. Normal people can look at the two services, weigh up the differences and recognise which one has the better deal 'on paper' It was almost as if some guys were hell bent on protecting the honour of xbls superiority by not demanding or expecting more. Landscapes change and ps stepped up and hit a home run with ps+ Ms have acknowledged what the fanboys didn't and thats that those outside the appologetic zone actually prefer newer, higher profile 'indefinite rentals' over 4, 5, 6 year old keepers that could probably be picked up dirt cheap.
Everything takes time with a big corporation. The Games with Gold offerings we're seeing at the moment were probably determined quite a lot of months ago. Having said that, I think it was Phil Spencer that spoke up at the end of 2013 to say he was really happy with the games coming out early 2014. Hopefully they're planned in financial quarters, and better offerings aren't far away now.
MS giving away stuff people actually want for free? LOL!!
I dunno about Gold, but I sure am enjoying my free copy of Bioshock Infinite with PS+. And I look forward to enjoying the 2013 Tomb Raider on my PS3 as well. Might even try out Borderlands 2 just for the heck of it. Just a quick compare: Gold games - https://www.gamepointsnow.c... PS+ games - http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Yeah, pretty big difference there. I have to say PS+ @ $50 a year pays for itself very quickly. Mines already paid itself off, and I still have 7 months to go before I need to renew! By then I'll likely have 6-7 more games under my PS+ belt. Great time to be a gamer (as long as you are with PlayStation).
*puts on most whiny, obnoxious fanboy voice possible* You're not getting free games, you're just renting them! neaaah! *pokes out tongue* I agree though, would much rather "rent" bioshock than keep some of the old games on GWG. I have a PS4, PS3 and vita and I can tell you this service is legendary for the price. For less than $5 I'm getting at least 4 quality titles each month. I don't need to buy any games and I can barely keep up as it is. My back log is huge. The value is so amazing I honestly don't know how sony make money from this. Once you experience Plus you can;t go back.
Do you have cloud and dedicated server on your multiplayer games? KillZone Shadowfall has P2P with proxy servers to make it look like you have servers. Point being, both services has their advantages....
@Nuke - Yes on both. Sony has had dedicated servers for most, if not all, of their first-party games since the launch of the PS3. And the PS3 had free online, while the 360 had pay online yet barely any of it's games had dedicated servers. Those of us on the PS3 have been enjoying dedicated servers for almost a decade now, so welcome to the club (better late than never I suppose). And the cloud... lol, you do realize that the cloud = the internet, right? If you are referencing cloud computing, then yes, those of us in Sony land have had cloud computing since the PSP came out. Then again with PS Vita... and again with PS Now. So what cloud computing has the XB1 received thus far? AI for the mentally challenged bots in TF? You should be proud!
I most often disagree with nukeitall due to Fanboy antics... However, in this particular case he is right... KZ:SF does definitely rely on P2P, using servers for matchmaking only... And as he stated, both Dedicated server or P2P each have their advantages. However, the definition of the "Cloud" for gaming is exactly that... Cloudy.
"That said, I have been sitting down, monthly now, with that team — some of the earlier months were already programmed — and playing a more active role in picking franchises that show up in Games with Gold, and I think you'll see at least something that feels, at least, more true to what I think Games with Gold should look like with the constraints that are there," Spencer said. Better games coming... I think they should give more than just games...free films and Tv Shows would be really cool as well.
Dragon Ball Z Season One is free on Xbox Video.
Damn...I never knew that...if they don't advertise it how I'm I suppose to know.
With all the complaints with Ads on Live, how do people not know that..it is literally in their face. /S
They do advertise it. It's been on the dashboard for a couple of days now.
Yup Also some anime is free for gold members. I also saw 'state of emergency' for free for being a gold member. They give out free random stuff for gold members now which they didn't do in the early days of the 360. But I rather have games for free. If MS can give PS plus calibur games, I'd be a gold member for life.
I've been a LIVE subscriber since 2004, and honestly, I specifically pay for the multiplayer. Anything else that they add is cool with me (i.e. most of the things people whine about being behind a paywall). However, I really can't bring myself to complain about a free game, regardless of how old it is. PS+ definitely has a better selection, but again, my $50 (give or take) has always been primarily to play online.
Wow 50$ to just play online... What's that like? Coming from a place where I don't pay just to play online, I would be curious to know... I could study this.
@Pillsbury1 Well, it'll be $100 a year when I get a PS4. Will you continue judging me from your lofty throne at that point or will you keep your snarky comments to yourself?
Seek medical attention.
They do free movie weekends to every now and then.
They do free movie weekends and things quite often, I don't think you even need Gold for those. And they manage to excel themselves in picking terrible films, it makes the Games with Gold selection look top drawer.
I swear Microsoft said games with gold was supposed to start later this year for xbox one. why did he decided not to comment about when gwg is coming to the xbox one?
Where is the benefit for gamers with gold on the xbox one? i sign up on new years eve and i just got another 12 months from amazon for 39.99 but other then using netflix and multiplayer online gamers with gold hasn't done anything on the xbox one. PlayStation plus on the other hand is really paying off for me.every month i get one game for ps4,two for the vita and three for the ps3 so yeah MS all the talking is going in one ear out other.you promise the moon but all you give is 99 cent moon pies.
It's hard to imagine life now not getting new free games all the time. Ps... Mmmmm mooonnn piieeee...
"with the constraints that are there" Any game that appears on GWG has to be at have released at least two years prior?
I renamed "games with gold" to "boned with gold"
Well there goes my hope of MS ever giving up their commitment to stop giving away those games outright and instead make the program more aligned to IGC with newer titles. I do wonder how they will tackle it on XB1 if ntkrnl leak of April is right which is looking to be true but seeing as indie games are starting to arrive on XB1 in march so maybe they will start there.
this is awesome, I hope they start doing something like sony giving tomb raider for free!
Whatever that's supposed to mean.
They mean more like Playstation Plus. Sonys just been kicking their ass this new generation same as last generation.
Unfair comparison as PS Plus is a rental service and Games with Gold you own the games which is probably harder to get good games that way.
Well since ive had PS Plus for almost 3 years now and have had those games all time so many that ive had to make room for more by deleting old ones than that is one hell of a rental service.
Yea I'm not claiming it's not good just remarking that one is a rental service like Netflix and the other one isn't.
Say what you will but at least the MS guys are answering their user base or giving them some kind of information about their concerns.
Just like they did with DRM and always online before E3. Face it: MS is between a rock and hard place because Sony did this first and they either have to directly copy their 3rd party offerings, or their own 1st party titles which they need to make a direct profit on as well as sell XB1s. Not that games like Titanfall and Forze 5 are being given away with systems in certain regions.
"Just like they did with DRM and always online before E3." I have no idea what that's suppose to mean but ... I guess. Doesn't matter who did what first as long as they acknowledge that they have to start stepping it up.
If this is what you consider an answer, do you bubble in everything on an answer sheet for a test too? This "answer" can literally mean anything because it's so vague. I know what the answer is probably going to be but I can't be certain, but hopefully it's that they're going to release more recent, quality games. The easiest way to do that is to drop that "keep it forever" thing they have going, publishers don't like the sound of that when it comes to subscriptions like this. You're already renting online play and seeing as most of the big games they gave for Gold have online play, you're gonna be paying for Gold anyway if you want to play the full game. This just defeats the purpose of letting me keep it forever, but it does save MS the heavy licensing fees Sony probably has to pay while also making a ton of cash selling bargin bin titles publishers don't care much to put heavy licensing fees on anymore. So, props to MS for finding an easy way of making money on cheap games in a "consumer friendly" manner. Phil Spencer should announce that they're no longer doing that ^^ stuff and they're going to actually try to compete with PS+, not this vague stuff that's pretty much an announcement of an announcement.
Any answer can be taken any which way. Every company has their PR talk and say things in non specific ways. The reason for this, you can't please everyone. No matter what you offer or try there's going to be "that" group who will always complain. People complained MS wasn't offering games. Now they are and they are letting you keep the games to boot. And people are still complaining (even I was). This feature for the Xbox has just started, and just like everything that has just started hopefully it will get better. But the point is, they are aware that the games offered have been disappointing especially when compared to what Sony has been giving lately. Your take on what Phil said can be interpreted as anything, I take away that he is implying the games will get better. Either way will just have to wait and see.
Talking the talk is useless if you're not actually coming through with your promises.
@maniacm You are right..they've been doing really good. i.e they promised to improve the console over time,make indies happier and get us good aa games and so far it seems they delivering on that. The indie scene is so much better now, the updates have added very good features i.e twitch and Phil has been doing a great job regarding AA games. A lot of mistakes were made at the beginning but Phil and the team seem more determined than ever to change that and with the strides they've made so far they have definitly earned my trust and im sure that of many others too. If he says GWG will get better then i believe it will.
Although I rarely share your views, I find you strangely positive. Always looking on the brighter side.. Never seem to get embroiled in the mud slinging......hmmm. Like you and others have stated, g4g is a fledgling attempt at combating ps+ and it'll take time and better efforts too match or better it. Ps+ did much better in its first year than what ms is on course to do over the same period but sony were coming from behind when they sarted + so they knew they had to come up with something great. Ms didnt see this coming nor did they have the developers/games in place to match sonys offerings. Ms will fight hard like they always do. It'll be better for their customers if they do step up.... is that positive enough for you mr chris;) +1
As usual with MS there is a lot of room for spin in those comments, 'in the future' could be twenty years away. 'More true' so much wiggle room there it's scary. Same old MS, why can't people just be straight forward and honest?
As usual Microsoft are vague with how they say things.
Their latest game Civ was a great addition for my cousin, he loves it. But he wouldve been happier with a newer more recent title like ps+. I told him i got TR and he was like daaaaaamn haha. Come on Ms!
im loving it. beat it with 8-9 cultures in the past 4 days. I never would have gotten this. Same with defense grid.
"Games with Gold should look like with the constraints that are there" I wonder what these "constraints" are that Phil is speaking of. Games with Gold was Microsoft's answer to PS+, but I don't get why they are half assing it. I think it draws far more attention to how bad the service is lacking in comparison to it's competition than if they just offered nothing at all.
only true fanboys give a damn about this games that comes free with xbox gold
MS don't care about gamers. I switch on my box and I get crap that I dot want to play but yet Sony are giving me great AAA games. MS is doing nothing but damage control
No company cares about you. You ain't their responsibility. It's all about BUSINESS.
Thats the thing, they should care about us. Without the cosumers they have no business.
First, I don't see too much bad with Games with Gold. You may not like the games, but they have put out a lot of variety in the games and almost all were of good quality. Second, Sony has had a multi-year head start with their service and I would not doubt that part of their essential "buy-out" of games is probably a clause that the publisher cannot do the same on another platform. Third, MS start Games with Gold late last year. Most of the games have probably been planned months in advance so changing is not as simple as offering something better this month Finally, if you think any company gives a crap about you, you are sorely mistaken.
Take the damn ads off of Gold members dashboards and that would be a good start to rectify all the BS that a gamer has to shift through just to find the games they want to play and buy. Xbox Gold is such an overrated rip off in so many ways. Always has been.
Haha. I totally agree. I had Gold for around 3 years and was like: "why do I pay for this??" and cancelled it. I've had Plus for the same length of time and am like: "how does Sony make any money??"
They would want to improve the games with gold. Playstation plus is just making them look greedy charging €50 for nothing but online play and charging for ads.
Phil Spencer 'Games with Gold will feel 'more true' to what consumers want in the future' ....What he means is 'We're copying the PS+ model, and hope to offer similar value someday in the future, not soon'
The reality is that renting games IS cheaper than buying games. MS is buying games to give to you or making some sort of deal. Sony is renting games for you. It's a limited Gamefly account. There is a difference. Once you stop subscribing the games go back. Gold games stay. That said, the PSN+ model may be better. Unless it's a game you really, really love, you won't need it after a few months.
Once you get a new PSplus subscription you can play or download ANY games that you had previously even it its 3 or six months later. Also as long as you download any game while its free you can keep playing that game for as long as you have PSPlus or if you resubscribe AT ANY TIME. Its not just for 3 months or a year. PSPlus gives you multiple free games per month in an already established free games collection. Yes the games are free because Sony could just as easily charged 50$ just for online play and put everything behind a fucking paywall just like Microsoft has done for YEARS.
On PS3 you can re-download any free game(PS+) you've owned after deleting it but I'm curious if on the PS4 it's the same concept. Idk why but it feels different on the PS4. I think since I can't see my list of downloaded games, like on PS3's PSN, I am skeptical. I'm pretty sure that option is still available for the PS4, but maybe you understand my skepticism. And hopefully I made sense...>,< is this off topic? -_-
I love the buying crap is better than "renting" good games concept.
After reading the article, I walked away with the notion that Microsoft is actually keeping the 'good' games, in preperation for a 'subscription service,' for sometime in the near future (PS Now competitor most likely) He's basically admitting that microsoft doesn't want to give things away, and would rather CHARGE you for the same content. Sony is giving away content, in an effort to entice people into purchasing their console early on. Microsoft on the other hand is hoarding the 'good suff,' while heaping piles of steaming shit onto their service early on lol...
I find humor in the fact that Sony doesn't have to do much else except continue to satisfy it's consumers, since Microsoft does enough to make themselves look bad. GWG sounds like a half-arsed attempt at PS+. They just come off as money hungry, as you stated, it sounds as though they don't want to be giving stuff away. They're stubborn in their marketing strategies, since they don't seem to give their consumer what they want, rather they do whatever they think is right I suppose.
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