With the announcement of the official PlayStation Now name given to the Gaikai streaming service, many expected it’s homepage to immediately change to match, but it didn’t happen until today.
Honestly I hope it uses some sort of ad support That way the prices can be be much lower
That's not very likely, IMHO. An alternate "Play all" subscription model is much more likely.
You mean a subscription? If you do, thats what I'm referring to as well. The ads would lower the price of the monthly fee Similar to Hulu Plus http://www.hulu.com/support...
Yup, I'm hoping that there are two main methods of buying games: 1) Buy games individually. This will cost you more down the road but you get to keep the games you buy forever. 2) Subscription. Sign up for either a 3 month ($40), 6 month ($70), or 12 month ($100) subscription (that will automatically renew unless cancelled). With a subscription, you gain access to all games, but you will no longer have them if you terminate your subscription, similar to how you lose your library of games obtained via PS+ if you terminate your PS+ membership. I hope that Sony uses these two models or something like them. I doubt that anything relating to PS Now will be revealed at GDC although it's still possible. Fingers crossed. Also crossing fingers for the VR headset. Edit: There may also be different types of memberships - bronze, silver, gold, platinum. The higher the membership, the more games you get, and the games you get will be newer. The higher the membership, the more expensive, though, obviously. (So, for example, if I had a bronze membership, I'd have access to a growing library of say 20 or so games, all of which are fairly old and not as popular, if I had a platinum membership, I'd have access to a growing library of 200 games or so, all of which are very popular. Also, all games included in lower memberships would be included in higher memberships).
I agree. I think there will be two modles. A $50/year back catalog (or unlimited access) and a monthly "rental" for each game. A game like Uncharted 3 will be $5 a month. Thats a whole lot cheaper than GameFly and its instant. A newer title may be more.
Except that Hulu Plus is pathetic for having ads on a paid service. I hope Sony would never stoop so low.
Wait so now ads are a good thing? I'm confused.
Ads have never been a bad thing in my eyes, maybe others I can live with 30 seconds of BS if it means free and/or lower prices. Also ads support alot of my favorite internet tv channels (Rev3) and youtube channels... Nothing in life is free
^ Agreed, I never had a problem with ads on hulu, I wouldn't mind watching one before a game if it meant lower price.
When will people learn that different individuals have different opinions? Never mind the fact that the two situation aren't similar.
For dropping cost, and done right, yes.
You are not confused stank you are trolling. Wait, they won't do anything to you. Troll away.
If it's a paid service, I hate ads. If it's a free service them it's understandable. One of the reasons I don't like Xbox Live is because you are paying $60 for the service and still getting ads thrown at your face. Ads on Vidzone and youtube are annoying, more on vidzone though since you can't skip them and have to just sit there until they finishe and watch them three times in a row(fck!). I recently saw an ad for the first time while watching a stream on PS4, understandable since it is not behind the paywall but still I left the stream. I really don't like those forced ads. I keep staring at the 5 second countdown to skip on youtube and when there no option to skip...FCK!!! Really annoying!
no adds on a pay service thats wrong.
Ads have grown on people I think over time. People are just used to them being there now.. So they don't bother people as much as they used to.
Ads are only bad to people who feel entitled and don't understand people need to gain revenue in order to feed their families. These are usually the same people that are confused as to why the government hasn't printed more money to end poverty...
Exactly, last gen it was fun bashing xbox for ads. A of a sudden its ok for PS Now. Anyway I dont see it happening. Sony will just have a very competitive price for it. Maybe like $80yr PS+/Now. I would pay that no problem! [email protected]
@morgan, is stank trolling or bringing up a good point? I mean all I ever hear is people outside of xbox live saying how ads on a paid service is bad. Yet if sony used an ad based subsidized system then would it be bad as well? These companies can only do so much on subscription fees. The idea of other revenue streams to keep the service at a reasonable rate isnt that unheard of. Its all speculation at this point until definite pricing is made public. So for now just take it with a pinch of salt.
But they wont be. Other than convenience, dependent on your provider and HDD space, on you don't see any benefit from DL games you could get in a store. If anything something online could still be $60 while its physical version is going for $10.
I want nothing to do with ads in my gaming.
LOL @disagrees. F***ED up.
I think people are talking about the store page etc.. Not in the games..
so ads are ok on Playstation but not xbox right? lmao
Ads are NOT ok. Stay classy Sony.
No that's one of the many reasons why we like playstation, and clown xbox.
its just some people on here that want it cheaper. so they want ads sony has not said yet
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He wasn't talking about Xbox... And when it comes to Xbox, they had ads even when you paid for a Gold subscription. That was the issue a lot of people had with it.
No ads on a paid service in my opinion. I hate commercials. Sony signed a deal with Viacom last year but there has been no word on a video streaming service. Is PlayStation Now also going to be a video streaming service or will they be announcing soon another premium monthly service? Any thoughts or info on Sonys deal with Viacom?
IPTV + ps vita tv = awesome. They are planning to take over the IPTV space and they will do that with a 99$ vita tv... Its coming. Also... Does anybody else remember the sega channel? Way ahead of its time.
I won't mind buying games but will I get to keep them? Ps5, vita 2, etc after seeing all the south parks post on reddit I'm sad I got rid if my ps3. Stupid move.
Xbox Live Gold is filled with ads and that isn't any cheaper.
On my 360 there's one on the dash.. Not seen any on my bone
That would be the hope, but it never works like that. Did Microsoft lower the price of Xbox Live when they started running ads? Did cable lower their prices because cable channels (non-regular network) show commercials? That was the point of cable. Having channels that didn't need commercials because you were PAYING FOR IT. Whoops. So while I wouldn't mind an actual tradeoff where you could pay less for commercials as an option, it isn't going to happen like this. Also you need a base case. How much does such a feature actually cost and what are people fairly willing to pay and it still be profitable for Sony? Now if we knew that to be $7.99 a month then we'd know the base case. Now if they said that an ad supported version was $2.99 or $4.99 some people might jump at that. But it is incorrect to say ads will mean lower prices, because history has shown us, ads don't bring lower prices. (..and if you want to encompass everything, the more ads there are, the more corporations spend on ads, the more you pay for their product since the price you pay for the product, pays for the ads) So no matter what people, you are paying for the ads, one way or another.
i'm just hoping PS+ doesn't change , or now doesn't get rolled into + with a nasty price increase
I would say that's 99% impossible. PS Plus is necessary to play online for PS4, making a price increase not viable as a move for Sony.
don't you think some of the smaller ps+ free games for ps4 and ps3 games could be streamed as opposed to downloaded i think its fair to say ps+ gives more value than gold and ps+ is 10$ cheaper , i don't think a 15-20$ increase and now rolled in as a rental service would be completely crazy , just a dumb thought .
It's impossible for something to be 99% impossible. Impossible is an absolute term. Perhaps you meant improbable, in which case I would agree. Now we're square.
I think they'll keep the service ad free, but I think right now they are looking to introduce Now as its own stand alone service instead of adding it as a premium top tier subscription on top of PS+. Given that what was discussed was a pay as you go model where you stream a game for a set amount or get a subscription package, I think what will likely be the case is that Gaikai's former subscription will be what's employed here and they may make the subscription cheaper for PS+ members...
They could offer a standalone PlayStation Now subscription for a standard price, and then offer a bundle package with PS+ with a discount.
I'm honestly kinda concerned about cloud gaming. What if, years from now, cloud gaming completely takes over. That means retailers like Gamestop would be put out of business, and people would lose jobs. And then, should any company go bankrupt, well, let me use an example. Microsoft goes out of bussiness. (Not saying it'll happen. They're not in that much trouble. Put your pitchforks away.) Someone wants to play Halo 5 on the Xbox One, but there's no retail version. Only cloud. Can't FIND the cloud version because Xbox Live doesn't run anymore because Microsoft is out of business. You never *Shivers* get to play Halo 5. Of course, I'm very pessimistic, so feel free to yell at me.
Microsoft is never going out of business. The only way they'll go out of business is if everyone stops using Windows. Which is unlikely. Windows is what makes Microsoft. Windows is Microsoft. Microsoft is Windows.
I just said it won't. I was using an example. Saying Sony or Nintendo would've caused a bigger fuss.
I don't think you comprehended what his point/concern is.
And office,it's just as big for them. Now they wouldn't even notice if xbox and live was dropped,it's a small percentage of their revenue.
Which is possible given enough time. But Xbox isn't windows, and already many people with influence, want it gone. That doesn't mean it will, or will anytime soon, but Microsoft being gone will someday happen, even if it's 50 or 200 years away from happening. Xbox? Could be a helluva lot sooner then that.
If MS keeps screwing up like they did with Windows 8, then it will be very possible that some day windows will die off. They are just going to keep making the Windows OS more like the iphone and android because they believe they are competing with tablets and whatnot. The days of XP and even Windows 7 will be forever gone, and so will Microsoft if they stay on that path. Heck, even Widows 7 for me is pretty terrible, it has some decent features but mostly it's a bloated inefficient pile of junk that is also less intuitive and easy to use than XP is. I would stick with XP for the rest of my life if I could, but I know the day is coming when I will have to make the switch. This upsets the heck out of me because I dual boot Windows 7 on my computer, and I absolutely hate it with a passion.
There will always be ways to play games. It might take time, but they will come again eventually. I don't have a SNES anymore, but I have lots of options to play SNES games if I want, even from my phone.
Why would you be concerned if cloud gaming took over? The same way digital photography took over, some companies (Kodak) failed to adapt fast enough and struggled. Did they go bankrupt? No. Companies like Gamestop, Walmart, Amazon, etc. are very aware (or at least they should be) that a digital future is coming. I see no reason to doubt they'll either be well prepared or lead the effort in selling content digitally. Also, why in the world with Microsoft go out of business due to cloud gaming? There's not connection at all — if anything, it would allow them to profit more on their game releases which is where the money is at. The soonest we'll see fully digital releases for full AAA titles will be next gen.
They better be ready, look what happened to the companies that didn't.. Hmv and blockbusters are a perfect example
Cloud gaming is a concern because it has latency problems that they might not be able to fix or avoid
"Yells at you". Lol I wouldn't worry too much, the architecture of internet around the world isn't there, where your fear lies. I see it happening when it is up to par, but until that time physical copies will be relevant, ans even then when everything goes digital the physical medium will still be viable mainly due to people like you and me. Companies still make profit on physical copies, they wouldn't sell them if they didn't! At worst you'll see a big increase and push(and incentive) to buy digital instead. And as for gamestop going out of business, I hope it does. It's a plague for developers. And I haven't spent any money there in a long, long time.
I'm not sure what to think of this cloud-gaming business. Problematic streaming quality for a video is annoying by itself, and it'll be absolutely deal-breaking for a videogame. And streaming services always have significant issues, even if they are just situational.
they had better launch it with a good price, and some of the BEST ps3 games available for it to really catch on, imo...
jurys still out, but im slightly optimistic.
I hope that Sony keeps it simple and that we get two Tiers of PS+. Normal Tier: Everything it is now + streamed game demos with PSNow technology. ~$50/yr PSNow Tier: PSNow buffet + normal benefits. ~up to $100/yr
Didn't everyone hate Live subscriptions and Adds last gen, now paying for 2 subscriptions and wanted Adds is ok this Gen? WTF is wrong with people these days.
Let me guess because PS+ and Playstation Now actually offer something that is well worth the incentive, while live only allows you to basically use your own internet connection with no added benefits like PS+ or PS Now, Live even goes as far as putting basic services behind their pay wall which again PS+ does not. People don't mind paying for something if it actually has good value, people complain about Xbox Live so much because it has no return in value. Even for 360 users the Games for Gold are a joke.
So you want to pay for 2 subscriptions? lol ok have fun with that. PSN and Live are the same deal and Live is also offering free and cheaper games in the near future so it all ends up the same. PC gamers don't believe in paying for any paywall garbage where these 2 companies try to rip people off. At least Live only lets you pay 1 sub and not 2. I brought Banjo Kazrooi, Banjo Tooie and Perfect Dark on Live a few months ago for a cheap price, no PS+ game is better then those 3 games (my Opinion) I hate paying for Live I am not going to lie however its funny seeing you fanboys except it and then except another paywall lol. Good luck with it, in 3 years of you paying for PSN + PS Now you could end up buying a PC that would $hit on PS4 and XB1.
I just answered the question you asked.. So all in all you were just being some ignorant elitist PC user who really could careless.. Like I don't use a PC to game on as well. Also no, Xbox Live is not the same as PS+ and Xbox Live doesn't even have a game streaming service like PS Now.. So again what hell are you trying to compare..? Games for Gold isn't even on Xbox One yet.
Also if you knew anything about PS Now, you would know you can just buy games individually if you want to, you don't have to use the subscription. It works both ways.. You don't even know how much the sub will cost anyway to be bitching this much over it already.
It amazes me how dumb a PC user could be when it should be the complete opposite.. Then again it doesn't take much of a brain to put a good PC together these days and brag about it endlessly.
Who was talking about PC's anyway? So no PC games have a subscription? Okay... Do you realize why everyone even started adopting subscription models in the first place... PC... PC was the first platform to ever have games tied to a subscription period. So how dumb do you look saying that? PC was also the first platform to offer games available for streaming with a subscription..
Yea again how ridiculous do you look right now when services like OnLive exist and many PC users are paying for that also... There aren't still millions of people playing PC games like World of Warcraft and the likes of many others right now either? Is that what you are going to tell me.. Paying monthly fees.. Not a freaking yearly fee..
OH MER GERD! $50-$60 a year is killing my bank... I mean for christ sakes a bum makes more money than that in a day and you are seriously complaining about it? God damn, I am not one to call people cheap but seriously if you can't afford that a year you are either absolutely terrible at managing your money or just literally cheap as all hell.
Did you also forget the part where a PC needs to be upgraded way more than a console almost every year now, there are processors and GPU's way better than the last each year.. You want to talk about balance.. Even with a console and paying for two subscriptions you will never pay as much money as you do just upgrading a PC, that is not including buy games for it.
I love my PC but it isn't cheap upgrading it all the time and I love gaming on basically any platform but god damn you elitist assholes making us sensible folk get grouped in with your idiotic asses drives me nuts.
Your opinion freaking blows.. "Banjo Kazrooi, Banjo Tooie and Perfect Dark" are better than anything PS+ has offered... Wow now I know I am wasting my time with a brain dead drone.
Seriously listen to yourself.. "in 3 years of you paying for PSN + PS Now you could end up buying a PC that would $hit on PS4 and XB1."
God you're freaking terrible at math also.. I am no mathematician either but god damn man..
Let's add that up shall we and assume like you are that PS Now is only subscription based (which it isn't).. If PS+ is $49.99 a year and considering no one knows how much PS now will cost but let's say it will be $49.99 a year also..
So you're telling me in 3 years I could buy a beast PC for only $299.94 that would out perform the PS4 and Xbox One.... OH YEA!!!... Do you see how freaking ignorant you're being.. That won't even get you a high end CPU or GPU with that money so what hell are you smoking sonny? You still need a new motherboard to support a new CPU, RAM, and GPU. You also have to buy HDD and disc drives and a power supply.. You also have to pay for the chassis to put all of that in.. Oh yea and of course a cooling system whether it be fans or water cooling.
No way in on this earth you could buy a good gaming PC for that much money.. Cheap ass laptops that can't even game sell for more money than that right now alone.
Ugh why I am even bothering.. You have to be off your rocker when you seriously mention games as old as Perfect Dark... I mean really? Do you even still play video games or was the last time you played games was back in 2005? Perfect Dark was a horrible game by the way and I played it, was the first Xbox 360 game I had.. Such a terrible game and regretted ever buying it.
...Utterly disgusts me you using the Half Life symbol with how ignorant you are... Some people just don't deserve to experience nice things and you clearly aren't one of them.
looks like Sony is taking cloud power to new heights!!!!!
Im still worried about the lag. If it is noticable I will not play games via Playstation Now. If not I would probably go with the subscription model (before ps plus I would have been sceptical about subscription models...)!
The delay input would only rely on your internet. I really don't know what people expect with slow internet and trying to use services like this that require heavy streaming.
They said it works fine on 6Mbps, which is pretty low and pretty affordable, so if you have slower internet than that, you shouldn't expect much out of streaming services until you get faster speeds.
I honestly don't know what you're reading into my comment... o0 my internet connection is a lot faster, nevertheless I'm only downloading with about 3MB/s from the psn (tomb raider took 8h to download). You see it does not only depend on your connection, but also on the server (Downspeed on Steam for example is 12 MB/s). Then there is the fact that you often have not so much upspeed than you have downspeed, and all input from the player is first sent to the server, processed and than a picture is sent back... this can't be as fast as when directly processing the input on your home console, the question is if the lag will be noticable. It's milliseconds we're talking about and in a ps now demo the input lag was evident (I know it was only a demo, thats why I said I hope it will not be in the release version...). There are many people who can live with a slight lag, I can't. I was expressing concern, not criticising the service in any way.
I'm not convinced that's an image of the PlayStation Now UI. It looks like it's showing how PlayStation Now content will display alongside regular content on the PS Store. Uncharted 3 and Far Cry 3 (with the PS Now logo)appear to sit alongside regular store items, such as The Last of Us and BioShock Infinite.
id consider RENTING games for like a week or so, for a low fee. i think that would work
unlimited games on playstation now should be included with playstation plus subscription to add value.
Like there isn't enough value as it is.