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Submitted by TheArabGamer 195d ago | opinion piece

Watch Dogs Has No Gore, No Shooting While Driving, and Slightly Downgraded Visuals. But Still Fun.

Over the past couple of days, people have been freaking out over the downgraded visuals of Watch Dogs. As one of the few people who played the game for 90 minutes, I can vouch that it's true. The visuals aren't as hot as what Ubisoft made them out to be back in E3 2012. The game also has some other weird limitations as well. But those don't necessarily make it a lesser game. (PS4, Watch Dogs)

Update Just to make it clear the game doesn't have gore or blood splatter. When I shot a civilian I didn't see anything come out. However, Aiden did get wounded blood marks.

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KnownAsEpic  +   195d ago
There WILL be blood.

source: https://twitter.com/Design_...
TheArabGamer  +   195d ago
I actually mentioned in the video there are blood spots but no blood splatter. Will edit the title.
Eonjay  +   195d ago
So there will be blood, but you can't paint the town red.
thorstein  +   195d ago
So you intentionally wrote a flamebait headline that contains information that A) has not been confirmed (ie "Watch Dogs has Downgraded Visuals") or B) is a complete fabrication (ie "Watch Dogs has No Gore.")

You did this with the intent to garner hits on your site.

You are what is wrong with Gaming Journalism.
Yi-Long  +   195d ago
No blood/gore = self-censorship = no buy.

I'm no gore-hound by any means, but when I blast someone in the face with a gun (or worse), I do expect there to be blood/gore, and it should be in there! (And not just a tiny little splatter-effect...)

I wasn't that concerned about the recent uproar about the graphics, but I won't tolerate censorship, not even when it's self-censorship.

What the hell is Ubisoft doing? First censoring the European console versions of South Park FOR NO GOOD REASON, and now they toned down the violence for a sandbox action game!? Seriously?
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-Gespenst-  +   195d ago
Yi-Long: I agree that if you're going to have violence in your game, represent that violence in all it's awfulness, but it's a very different story if that extreme violence is made to seem entertaining and thrilling. The only way violence ought to be represented is as awful and disturbing.

Making it entertaining is no better than self-censoring - both distort reality. Not that games should all be realistic, but if you're AIMING for realism (like Watch Dogs sort of is), you have a duty to portray it properly, with as little distortion as possible. Even the IDEA of violence is kind of bad though, and I think ultimately that if it's in any game, however unrealistic that game is, violence should always be portrayed as negative. It's bad for culture if we reserve a space where violence is somehow okay - it's dishonest and hypocritical.
thorstein  +   195d ago
@Yi-Long

The author lied about the gore. That simple. He fabricated it and since he hasn't rewritten the headline it is now being reported as fake.
Conzul  +   195d ago
I was so pumped for this game. I remember seeing it at E3 2012 and going....wooow.

There is NO excuse to delay a game so far and bring it so much lower and still expect me to pay for it. I don't think I'll be buying this...definitely not at launch prices.

ACIV was very good, but you failed, Ubisoft. Unbelievable.

EDIT: The game, for what it is now, would have been fine. The sin is in showing us something so much prettier and then switching it out. I won't support such behavior.
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morganfell  +   194d ago
Great video Arabgamer. You not only made direct statements but also provided informative examples to support your remarks. Thank you for your objectivity - you are waiting to play more to make your decision on the title. There was no rush to judgement hit inducing sensationalism and that is a welcome change from most sites.

I read your hands on and I encourage gamers to go peruse one of the best write-ups to come out of the press junket.

I do disagree with the developers for artificial and unnecessary limitations. These people at Ubisoft are hammerheads. Instead of not allowing you to do something they should let the results of your actions induce limitations.

It is like jumping. Some games do not allow it because of the dreaded bunny hop shooting. They should allow jumping but have happen what would occur when you jump and shoot. The 3rd or 4th time a person gets pasted attempting to jump and shoot they will quit. But it still allows jumping in those real moments such as a low obstacle or ditch. It maintains immersion to allow people to do the things they can in the real world.

As regards driving and shooting the 3rd or 4th time some hardhead fails to make a hack while driving they will quit using that tactic. But the game would also allow for those wonderful moments when you pull off the accidental/skillful incident and still escape. Or you pull it off and die gloriously. This reminds me of Infinity Ward and the Tank in the Bog incident. It is just idiocy. "We will force you to enjoy this our way and you will like it!"

I am still getting the game for the PS4 but these companies have to stop this unimaginative design trying to force the player to play the game a certain way. Let circumstances and the situation guide them rather than hard coded programming. It's dumber than every obstacle having a Press X to Jump prompt.
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AgentSmithPS4  +   194d ago
Why are adults 'forced' to get the children's version of the game? In this next gen we need to DEMAND that they come up with better age verification systems or whatever it takes so adults can play adult games!

Every time you shoot someone in the game you'll experience the immersion breaking slap to the face reminding you that you're playing a game that politicians and/or greedy companies reduced the realism of for their own agendas.

@Yi-Long I agree, but I will buy the game at a reduced price eventually since they're giving me a reduced game.

@-Gespenst- if you want to be a dictator go make your own country, you have no business telling adults what they should or shouldn't do in a GAME.
morganfell  +   194d ago
@thorstein,

Do you know the difference between a blood swath on clothing and gore? No, of course you do not.
Mikelarry  +   195d ago
phew thanks for the confirmation
SolidGear3  +   195d ago
It says in the ESRB description "blood splatter effects" during Combat.
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Beastforlifenoob  +   195d ago
watch django unchained if you want to see some real blood splatter effects... Or Rambo or any pg-13 or R movie (yes movies have wayyyy more gore than games but it seems nobody cares ban the gamers for their evil ways)
s1xt6en  +   195d ago
Rashed said and I quote "This is going to be one of the best looking ps4 games for this time span." Like I've been saying in all other posts stop with the neogaf gif and actually listen to those who have played it. Thank you my friend.
TheArabGamer  +   195d ago
Thanks! I can vouche the game still looks very pretty especially when it rains.
SolidGear3  +   195d ago
I'm definitely buying this.
Tempest317  +   195d ago
Why does everyone use the e3 2012 vid to complain about? The e3 2013 gameplay trailer looks incredible, and thats what theyve stated ps4 will look like. This whole debate has gotten completely ludicrous.
MisterFantastic  +   195d ago
Have you ever heard "seeing is believing"? I'm going by the gif and not going by he say she say. People say one thing, BUT video proof says another.
s1xt6en  +   195d ago
Lol at the comments. Are people even watching the video or just reading the title? Smh.
JunkyardWillie  +   195d ago
Don't be a gullible fanboy lol
s1xt6en  +   195d ago
They need to hurry up and approve this so people can actually see what's going on.
vulcanproject  +   195d ago
It's more that developers create these videos and build expectations then don't match them and think somehow they should just be allowed to get away with it.

That is called a bait and switch. False expectations. Which is never a nice thing and Ubisoft were rather guilty of it with Far Cry 3 as well.

It's the principal. I'm not raging over downgrades, just annoyed that this is happening too often.

Isn't it better anyway that a game maybe starts off looking a bit meh but then gets better and better as the release date gets closer? I think so.
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whitefang1988  +   195d ago
Very interesting, good to hear from someone who's actually spent time with it, well done :-)
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   195d ago
Slightly downgraded ? More like major downgrade. I have never seen a game downgraded this much in my life.
ABizzel1  +   195d ago
There are quite a few examples.

Recent Examples:

EA Sports Expectations (Always overhyped CG at the start of a new generation)
Watch Dogs (Ubisoft)
Far Cry 3 - Jungles (Ubisfot)
Red Steel (Ubisfot, see the trend, thankfully they're games are good)
Forza 5
Uncharted 3 - Some Cutscenes
Original Kinect - Did little of anything in it's reveal thumbs down that video ( https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Gears of War - ALWAYS (it had to be running on PC Max settings rather than just upping the resolution to 4k like other devs do.)

The greatest culprits are easily those from the early PS360Wii days. There were some huge offenders back then. I sure there were plenty as well back in the older generations, but now you can't get away with it, because gamers are informed and will post your game all over the web, unless it's a fanboy.
DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   195d ago
Thanks for the heads up. Thanks but no thanks ubisoft,I'll pass.
kewlkat007  +   195d ago
Don't worry, Rockstar is taking notice..All things in the game will be in the next GTA.
clockward100  +   195d ago
Well guys aleast the order 1886 and infamous second son will look like they showed
hollabox  +   195d ago
Infamous I say yes, The Order 1866 will probably downgrade the visual a little bit since currently has frame rate issues. I still want a full screen from The Order 1866 as well, I'll take 900P at 2X MSAA to make that happen.

@thekhurg

You never know, patches can be introduced later. I just hope they release a demo so I can decide if I can play 10 plus hours of cropped gameplay.
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thekhurg  +   195d ago
Full screen isn't going to happen. They've said letter box is here to stay.
Tontus  +   195d ago
The Order 1886 had framerate issues because it is 9-11 months away, it will look better and run at a solid framerate by release.

Remember the GoW3 E3 demo compared to the final game? That huge difference was made in the last 9 months of development, except a similar improvement in The Order 1886.
hollabox  +   195d ago
@Tontus

They are not Sony Monica, I expect great things from Sony's premium 1st party teams including Naughty Dog at this years E3. With that said its certainly possible visuals and frame rate can improve, but it could go the other way and downgrade visuals like the first Fable, Far Cry 3, MG4, Halo 2, FF13, and from the looks of it Watch Dog. One major part of optimization, if you can't get the code run efficiently you cut or reduced features I.E, resolution, texture size, polygon count, shader effects, ect.

If effects are not cut or reduced developers place a stronger emphasis on LOD models. The crap that causes those weird jumps in textures resolution and polygon count as characters get closer to the screen.

The Order is still on my to buy list, I just need to see more from it. Watch Dog might have slipped off, I need to see more updated gameplay. Otherwise that 2012 Vaporware E3 demo might be as bad as Halo 2 and Kill Zone 2 E3 presentations.
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SolidGear3  +   195d ago
Letterbox in a game?!
clockward100  +   195d ago
Sometimes we just cant trust some third partys devs but hopefully they can push the division the division looks way better than watchdogs and its not a last gen port
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   195d ago
My God those downgraded graphics though. If 1080p was capable of saving downgraded visuals, it would definitely do this game justice.
1nsomniac  +   195d ago
"It looks great for a PS4 game" - I'm sorry but no it doesn't & other games already released on the PS4 prove otherwise.

"there is no blood" - Ubisoft said on their twitter feed last night that there is blood & gore.... One of them has to be lying!
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fullmetal156  +   195d ago
Hmm just a tought maybe the downgrade had to do with the parity agreement. Unless it was intentionally made to look like that for the hype but gamers arent dumb we will spot your shit lol.
clockward100  +   195d ago
The funny thing is gtav looks better than watchdogs on current gen lol so inmagine when rockstar makes gta6 in a few years lol
Drakesfortune  +   195d ago
this game is another game built on false promises....

rent for me
-Gespenst-  +   195d ago
That's triple-A for ya.
wannabe gamer  +   195d ago
Its going to be a disappointment, they built too much hype for it and will not live up to it. their own fault.
im not saying its going to be a bad game or whatever, im sure it will still be fun and cool. it will be a disapointment tho and not as spectacular as they tricked us into thinking with those fake BS mockup which were basically cgi fake gameplay.
zyphee  +   195d ago
I hope ubisoft burns
Speak_da_Truth  +   195d ago
wow i'm not buying this game i already canceled my pre order and put it towards batman arkham knight for ps4
carlingtat  +   195d ago
wow noone cares
madworldps4  +   195d ago
Me two I canceled my pre order and buy batman and pay full package why because I believe in Rockstudy so hill yah...
youndamie  +   195d ago
Rockstudy doesn't sound like a very fun studio lol
Father__Merrin  +   195d ago
I predict P.S.4 + Xbox1 gamers will boycott this if the title doesn't turn out as was originally envisioned!!!!

next gen games ave very costly to purchase I dunno in the states but they all come in at £49.99 - £54.99 over here which makes it equivalent $85 - $90 per game

this is a total scam imo on pricing and gamers will look for best deal, if watchdogs turns out dog turd then expect gamers to buy something else
kingPoS  +   195d ago
I think Ubisoft may have a little too much on their plate. I can't help but wonder if things would have gone differently it perhaps the current gen versions had been omitted.

Virtual Chi-town; don't let me down.

Gateway MT6706 2008
Grimhammer00  +   195d ago
How cone no one remarks on the serious upgrade from 1 additional player in mp sessions to 8!

Though everything about graphics is true from what I've seen.
KonsoruMasuta  +   195d ago
Nobody cares about MP.
WeAreLegion  +   195d ago
It doesn't even look as good as Assassin's Creed IV.
donnieboy  +   195d ago
Can't hurt civilians?
TheArabGamer  +   195d ago
You can but there some limitations. For example you can't use your baton on them.
goldwyncq  +   195d ago
What if this is secretly Assassin's Creed V?
Linchpin  +   195d ago
So why does it have an 18 certificate?
SolidGear3  +   195d ago
Blood, Intense Violence, Nudity, Strong Language, Sexual Content, Drug Reference .. the usual
madworldps4  +   195d ago
I was love this game so much,but now it just Disappointed me all demos since E3 2012 to E3 2013 was from Pc version oh my god man that a scumbag and shame ,shame on you Ubisoft and yeh fuck it I ready canceled my pre order!!!!!and i will buy it with less then 80% price off because that what I think it worth and the reviews will appear soon enough and it will be a big flop of the year mark my word :)
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-Gespenst-  +   195d ago
The doge meme has life in it yet! Best ones I've seen.

lolled at "All the moral choices"
SolidGear3  +   195d ago
much delays .. lol
theshredded  +   195d ago
rlly a flamebait article?Watch Dogs looks Gr8 quit ur whining and squirming
SynestheticRoar  +   195d ago
F-that game. Tired of all this hype.
Geekman  +   195d ago
No gore.-Meh.
No shooting while driving-Awwwwwww, shoot. Oh well.
Downgraded visuals-they look fine to me.
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