A massive controversy broke out yesterday immediately after the release of new Watch Dogs Story trailer. The graphics/visuals in the new footage was heavily downgraded and was nowhere close to what we saw in E3 2012 footage.
"Graphics Not Downgraded" http://img1.wikia.nocookie.... *cough* http://i.minus.com/iboqqHgy... http://abload.de/img/dogs4m... Ubisoft, i am disappoint. @US8F Part of me hopes that it was just a poor choice of footage in the trailer, but like you said, if the game hasn't been downgraded, then why show footage that says otherwise? You're supposed to show the game at it's absolute best in trailers.
It's the PR department, of course they going to say that. Bullshotting applies to them in particular. If there is a better quality, why release this crap?
The released a crappy tailer, and if they're telling the truth here, that it's NOT been downgraded, then they should release a new stunning trailer to convince everyone, cause right now, public perception is very much against them.
Yi, I would seriously gamble they are working on doing this right now but in such a manner it does not appear to be a response. I normally agree with Lukas but I think you are jumping the gun. You are going to discover that gif is from a last gen version and the current gen and PC versions look fine. As I said several times earlier, this is from the same video as the gif you posted and it appears to be cobbled together out of various clips: http://i.minus.com/ibtAnGuw... I hate bullshots but unintentionally bombing a title over a mistaken or deceptive gif is just as bad. I wasn't a believer in the original Watchdogs E3 presentation because I could prove it was fake and prerendered. But even I am saying people should hold their tongue until this is straightened out.
@morganfell " You are going to discover that gif is from a last gen version and the current gen and PC versions look fine." I hope so. That GIF you posted does look better than the ones i posted, that's for sure. Why would they think using footage from multiple platforms/gens would be a good idea for a trailer? If that's what they have done....they have created some backlash that could have been entirely avoided.
Lukas, It wasn't strictly from a trailer but a vid when watched seems to be jumping from one piece to another randomly. Here: http://www.everyeye.it/vide... If it is from current gen its just one of those deceptively bad moments that happen in every good looking game. Also as I have said in another post the lighting is bad there because the bridge is flashing. It is a selectable, hackable object. I am getting the game for PS4 but I have always been a skeptic of the title. But even I do not think things are as bad as people are making out. Edit: Also realize that the recent hands on junket had comments from joystiq and arabgamer saying the PS4 version they had hands on was stunning.
No matter how this turns out for Ubi, it is causing them some other PR issues as well. Here is what happens when you hire a PR person for looks instead of brains: http://i.imgur.com/DQe5s2e.... When you attack other publisher's titles, particularly in defense of your own it is usually a bad move.
Something is going on here. First thuway(CBOAT alt) suddenly tries to spread rumors again, now this forced controversy. Somebody knows something, could it be worse than Thief?
They they should prove otherwise. I believe what I can see and all I see right now is a massive downgrade in graphics quality.
This high quality hd trailer looks pretty good though. it's recent too. http://www.gamersyde.com/le...
@morganfell Even that gif doesn't look very impressive, the physics are way off and seems to me the fps is very low.
I have to laugh at the reaction! Seriously... What was unveiled at E3 2012 was running on a PC! PS4 wasn't even announced until Feb 2013... The Xbox One wasn't announced till May 2013... Final specs weren't known for either of the consoles in 2012. So it should come as no surprise that PS4 and Xbox One play in the same ball park as PC s but not on the same part of the field... What was shown running on PS4 yesterday looks just like the 2013 footage displayed at Sony's E3 presser... And it's very close to what was demo'd in 2012... This came from Eurogamer's Digital Foundry comparison July of last year just a day after E3. And while they highlight the PS4's short comings they also point out how close the PS4 plays in the ballpark of the PC and further highlights that since 2013's Console demonstration, the 2014 reintroduced footage looks just like the 2013 footage. http://youtu.be/AjUaA5lDeDY Compare that comparison to the trailer released yesterday and all you'll see is that the PC looks better than PS4 and that's it. Not a graphics downgrade from 2013 to 2014...
I am going to buy the game regardless. I have a PS4, I am going to buy Watchdogs. BYE! Only the real fan trolls are feeding off this like maggots on fresh roadkill.
@morganfell That is ps4 gameplay, from that video you linked, when he is fighting cops
The ironic part about this is that the game still doesn't look BAD. It would not have been known for it's next-gen graphics, but there are plenty of games that succeed on completely separate merits. But Ubisoft has now made it a "thing" because video gaming these days is apparently all about deceiving consumers into buying a product instead of making a product that they want to buy in the first place.
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The division is a next gen only. I doubt it will have the same fate . I don't think Watch dog got downgraded , they just haven't reached that level in the first place lol .
The Division looks too good to be true
If they fuck up the division they will have a shit storm on there hands!!!
The visuals you see on The Division tech demo and trailers are top top top end PCs. Do not expect that fidelity, expect the same bait and switch as Watch Dogs. The irony is Watch Dogs still looks as good as AC so its not all bad.
the 'not sure if serious' picture creased me!
Yeah cause that's definitely not previous gen version you're comparing with... smh
The GIF with the car jumping the bridge is apparently PS4 footage.
@Lukas I wouldn't put too much faith in that claim. Plenty of ps4 gameplay footage out there that proves otherwise. You don't think there's a chance that's ps3 footage?
Do we know those are from current machines, and not from PS3/360 etc.
I don't know about the first but the second GIF is fist showing the PS4 version and then the PS3 one. No way next gen games could look that bad
If you're talking about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watc... The first footage that says 2012 is from the very first reveal, which was running on PC. PS4/Xbone wasn't even announced at that time. The second is PS3 though.
Is there no gaming journalist on here that can verify or not the released video as opposed to the actual recent play they were invited too? There's always posters on here saying "I'm a journo" where are you guys now?
The difference is way too dramatic. But if they are sure that nothing has changed we can expect a new trailer or gameplay video soon
Its not changed, its just not cherry picked and polished for maximum positive reaction. Plus high end PC's will always have better visuals. My concern is that the game is still a mess. And yep, I have played it enough to give that statement.
Last October I had a chance to watch a live Watch Dogs closed doors demonstration. Honestly, the game - at the time - felt unpolished. So I understood the reason for the delay at the time. But, quite frankly, the new trailer seems to show the same old gameplay, with almost zero improvments. Seems to me all this game has is hype.
Ok people have blown this way out of proportion. That footage is obviously not the PS4/X1/PC build. That the last gen build. That story trailer was using the 360 footage, and then for some reason someone kept changing the trailer, still with the same 360 build shown, but show PC case and another similar trailer show PS4/X1 case.
The only rational solution i see here is that Ubi used maxed PC game Trailer in 2012 and then in 2014 they just used Next-gen consoles game Trailer and they difference was huge... this can only mean that PC version is not affected by this but nex-gen consoles versions are.
Release isn't too far away, which means, nor is the truth.
true only time will tell , but I'd like to see a ps4 shot of this side by side with ps3 GTAV... if it doesn't look better then buying it in bargain bin for 19.99 and screw you ubi
Watch Dogs isn't going to look anything like the E3 reveal and Ubisoft might as well come out and admit the truth
That's because the Xbone and PS4 don't have the power to render graphics like the CGI seen in the 2012 E3 reveal. The e3 2013 trailer looked amazing and was made on high end PC development PS4 setup. http://watchdogsforum.net/v... This is not Ubisofts fault. It's Microsoft and Sony's fault for suckering millions into buying underpowered consoles that are nowhere near the power of current-gen PC's. My 3 year old PC with an i7 860 @ 4ghz and gtx 680 wipes the floor many times over with these "next gen" consoles. And I know some of you will act like children and say some crap about pc master race, but the facts are the facts and you guys were all lied to and were sold underpowered consoles. And the thing is, Sony and Microsoft will continue to take advantage of blind fanboys in the future as long as you keep buying the crap they sell you.
Bubble down Mr Troll.
Deny, deny, deny and if all else fails deny.
Now going to rent this game....looks no where near as good as what they revealed.. I mean when i first saw it i was like wow look at all the little details and how fantastic it looks... whereas now the next gen versions look worse than gta V Not good UBI... Now worried for the division
The division isn't going to look like that playthrough on consoles! NOT A CHANCE!
People like you made the same mistake a lot against consoles. Hope you learn faster lol . It's a new gen , it would easily match that level of graphics. Your comment would make sense for multiplatforms after 2-3 years from now.
I see no reason at all why the initial gameplay of The Division wouldn't be possible in 1080p 30fps on PS4.
@14feb people like me? I game on PS4! That division gameplay looks better than the e3 watch dogs reveal so we'll see what happens down the line won't we? lol @lukas, where did I say it wouldn't do 1080P? I said it won't look like that gameplay which imo it won't, I hope it does because I'll be buying it on PS4 but I can't see it!
Then they better show a video that shows it. It looks nothing like what have been shown earlier. It looks downgraded as hell to be honest. For people that have pre-ordered that is called false advertising. They have payed or ordered a product not close to what they thought they were going to get. Ubisoft is going to have a live stream on Twitch in some hours. Going to be interesting to see what they have to say or show. I smell lawsuits coming Ubisoft's way.
"Ubisoft is going to have a live stream on Twitch in some hours" Are they going to be showing WD and got a time frame?
Going to be interview and Q&A @ March 7 – 9pm [CET] Going to be interesting to watch...I recon the chat is going to a mob of angry gamers. http://www.twitch.tv/ubisof...
Thanks have a helpful bubble
sales are going to suffer immensely out of the gate if they don't start releasing some good looking trailers... the internet is the go to place for gaming info these days... and the info aint good lately for this game.
Ouch the stream went horribly, I missed it but the chat is still going hard and Ubisoft even felt the need to enter the chat after it was over to defend themselves further by basically saying nothing.. Everyone says they just danced around the questions and even had people timed out that asked questions about the graphics. The chat is still on fire with people that are just raging mad about how Ubisoft went about the Q&A. Ubisoft in chat after stream - "We moderated the chat to exclude excessive vulgarity and out and out fabrication." In others words they moderated the chat so they could not have to answer any legitimate concerns about the game. They even went as far as removing the stream after from their page. One user though uploaded the stream to Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watc...
No gameplay? Glad I didn't waste my time watching that stream. Thanks for uploading them.
"Really they didn't downgrade anything,its just a little different then when you first saw it i guess. It really does look great" Well...that pretty much confirms what everybody is saying here about it being downgraded
Oh yeah .. we don't have eyes to see whats good and whats wrong !! Hell yeah if the " Next-Gen " looks like that .. then say goodbye to " Next-Gen "
"Next Gen" is starting to look like the biggest scam goin.
Ps4 guy here. I found myself pricing high end PC gaming rigs today at work. That's a bad sign.
Vote with your wallet people. This crap needs to stop.
Right!!!! They did this with Far Cry 3 really bad too. (look it up) Com'on Ubisoft! If it "looks incredible" SHOW US!!
Agreed but at least far cry 3 still looked dope at the time. If this holds up, it'll look worse than launch titles even after a delay. Death knell.
well said +bubble
Can... Can I vote with my penis? Family guy reference. Sorry, I'm drunk at the Dallas airport.
Hope you're not the pilot.
Looks like a ps2 game.
I guess you haven't played PS2 in a long time. Not even the PS3 could render those graphics.
by the looks of it not even the PS4 can render those graphics *cough E3 trailer
GTA V looks better....
I agree with you about the PS2 thing, that's just silly, but GTA5 does look better.
GTA V might subjectively look better to you two, but it most certainly is not technically better in terms of the assets and rendering techniques used.
You must work for ubisoft. Every other comment you are attempting to defend this game, you either have absolutely nothing to do or you work for ubisoft, i pick the latter. No one in this site has left more than 1 message saying the graphics are not as bad other than you.