Submitted by UnrealThreats 389d ago | news

Watch Dogs on PS4 "isnt giving its place" to PC, says Head Creative Director

Following the huge surge of info on Watch Dogs this afternoon, Jonathan Morin took it upon himself to answer some questions on twitter. (PC, PS4, Watch Dogs)

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PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   389d ago
after watching the trailer like 5 times now, i think the game looks great. i think we all just been spoiled by The Division so much lol..

Plus if the game had a visual downgrade it would have been mentions in Previews ;)
Dark11  +   389d ago
Yeah you keep telling yourself that

meanwhile .. http://i.minus.com/iboqqHgy...

the same thing happened to Far Cry 3.
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ExitToExisT  +   389d ago
Saw that gif a few hours ago. The difference is really worrying. I hope the pc version will look like e3 videos.
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morganfell  +   389d ago | Intelligent
That gif is the only place in the video it looks like that. The daylight sections do not look great either but that gif is misleading regarding the night portions. The rest of the night looks like this:


Look at the video: http://www.everyeye.it/vide...

No matter what people say it was downgraded. Two years ago I said on this site that Ubisoft faked the E3 video. I even pointed to the video showing Aiden moving on screen and the guy wasn't even using the controller on stage. People attacked relentlessly me for those comments and daring to suggest it was fake.

Now look...
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vulcanproject  +   389d ago
"isnt giving its place"

Not. Sure. What. That. Means.

Please be awesome PC version :(
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Fluke_Skywalker  +   389d ago
Wow that's bad, surely that must be the PS360 version!
Longshot28  +   389d ago
People keep posting this,but nobody will confirm where the new version footage came from.
AgentSmithPS4  +   388d ago
It's not about PC VS PS4, it's about the suspicious closeness of 1080p PS4 and 960p xb1. It seems possible that the reduction of visual quality, weather effects, etc on PS4 was caused by ubisoft trying to make both versions as similar as possible.

Maybe they were given a generous "donation"?
UltraNova  +   388d ago

This guy gets it!

One question though..is it me or GTAV on PS3 is off equal graphic quality if not better?
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NewMonday  +   388d ago
now I understand why Pachter said the game was going to be a disaster.

from today on I will only get Ubisoft games used.

if it was a CGI trailer like Batman Arkham Knight then most gamers will check their expectations

but time and again they showed the now revealed to be faked "real time game play" and deceived the public on purpose.

they now sick to the bottom and challenge EA for the worst video game company crown.
SonofGod  +   388d ago
I blame last-gen. This game should have been next-gen and PC only.
Irishguy95  +   388d ago
Shoulda been exclusive to PC if they were trying to push the graphics. Infamous and Forza have had similar downgrades.
I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989  +   388d ago
@ everyone worried about pc version it supports 4k resolution, nuff said. Also I'm wondering if a 4770k + 2 780ti classifieds can handle 4k.

Edit :this game is made by ubisoft ? Damn I guess I can forget about 4 k res considering ubi makes horribly optimized pc ports that don't support hyperthreading, or sli. To this day still can't get assassins creed 4 black flag to run decent:( far cry 3 had to turn sli off Aswell as hyperthreading to get it to work. I hate ubisoft with a passion.
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Visiblemarc  +   388d ago
Yeah, but is this possible? That looks like Carmageddon footage.

Even IF that is last gen footage, it still looks worse than many open world games on ps3/360. GTA 5 comes to mind immediately...and while GTA 5 has a weak framerate it still wouldn't explain not even *meeting* it's graphical fidelity at 30fps on next gen.
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webeblazing  +   388d ago
lol it not about pc version looking better. its about xbone version being close to the ps4 version? lol fanboys cant even enjoy new games that coming out to their console with hardly any games.
AliTheSnake1  +   388d ago
Did you know where that gif came from ? Did you even see the full video ? The big difference in the gif is that the spotlight is bright and BIG, which made the road look muddy and ugly. This is the video, which has other shots at night :

The game looks pretty impressive to me.
Stop riding that bandwagon.
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Avalanche  +   388d ago
why are you showing me a video of "Cruising world" for the n64?
1nsomniac  +   389d ago
It looks like garbage. Watch it again, & again if you have to until you loose the silly rose tinted spectacles!

Simple fact of the matter is old-gen GTA V looks better than new-gen Watch_Dogs & that's embarrassing, not only for gamers but for Ubisoft aswell.

Your argument for Division makes you look even worse because not only are you ignoring what has happened to Watch_Dogs but your also ignoring the fact The Division will likely see the exact same fate.
I_am_Batman  +   389d ago
I'd say wait til it's finished and then judge. I honestly don't care too much how it looks graphically as long as it looks fun to play (which it does).

Not every game has to set a new graphics benchmark.
1nsomniac  +   389d ago
For me it doesn't look fun any more that's the point. The streets are lifeless not only in the environment's but the sudden lack of actual life in them.

If you consider that fun all the better for you but I call it mindless acceptivness (& yes that's not even a real word!).
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I_am_Batman  +   389d ago
I understand your disappointment. And I'm not accepting anything mindlessly. I'm not saying I'll buy this game no matter what. I'm just saying wait til it's finished and we get to see more of how it ends up.
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Omegasyde  +   388d ago
I agree as I am concerned that the streets look lifeless.

My main gripe for GTA was that you rarely see an npc walk down the street in online. Let alone if you were in the game online and there was no player by you, you wouldn't see a vehicle spawn until you moved closer to the other players.

The only exception to this rule was during story-driven missions in regards to vehicles, but even then the streets are like a ghost town.
malokevi  +   388d ago

YOu got 6 disagrees for making the most sensible comment here. I'll give you an agree.

If the game is as fun as it's been made to seem, then there isn't a problem. We should wait until we have the final game in our hands before we start jumping to conclusions about visual quality. Fun is what matters most.
DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   388d ago
Word up! @1nsominiac
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NewMonday  +   388d ago
".. The streets are lifeless not only in the environment's but the sudden lack of actual life in them"

exactly, a big part of the game shown months ago is mingling and hiding in plain sight amongst the big crowds.
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irepbtown  +   388d ago
Dare I say GTA IV looks pretty similar? And that was 2008...

I do hope the new footage is from last gen gameplay, how a next gen game can look like that is astonishing.

This is what I was expecting, or something similar: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
heisenberguk  +   388d ago
It looked awful in places, the car had no resolution, shine or reflection from the bodywork whatsoever when it was going up the ramp. The car models in GTA5 look as good or better!!
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PFFT  +   388d ago
I think GTA5 looks better than this. I am really disappointed. So that means that the game was never truly finished and that WHOLE, its done but we will delay to polish the game was nothing more than BULLS*IT. Cause call me crazy but most developers delay a game to make it better in terms of graphic quality and to squash bugs. Dont know about the bugs BUT the improvement in the graphics quality are extremely absent.
Lior  +   388d ago
After seeing the trailer, I beleive the E3 footage gameplay was from PC and the new trailer is from the console version
DeadMansHand  +   388d ago
If you think the Division will look like that stuff we saw at E3 I have a bridge to sell you in China.

Ubisoft are the kings of Bullshots. What we saw at E3 was on a very high end PC and in no way represented actual console fidelity. Look at what they did with Far Cry 3 on PC. The differences were night and day. This game was in development before they even knew for certain that next gen (this gen, now) consoles were even going to be released so soon. This game is made for last gen and will have some current gen added features like textures and updated lighting but that's it. It will NOT even be close to what we all saw on the monitor in E3. Even PC users will not see that fidelity. We will get something along the lines of the remastered Tomb Raider.
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AnEwGuY  +   388d ago
Which bridge, specifically? There are thousands, after all. -_-
DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   388d ago
Please..no.god...no..let it be all lies!
I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989  +   388d ago
With ubi you can't even trust the pc version. I'm pirating every ubi hgame before I but it from now on 67 dollars I spent on assassins creed iv black flag still can't play it with gsync + sli or without gsync + no sli. Just unreal useless devs when it comes to supporting pc after it releases.
Tempest317  +   387d ago
Well gsync is a brand new tech, I wasnt even aware that you could buy supported monitors, had to DIY woth a kit last I checked, and youre the first person ive heard with an issue with ac4 sli. Are you sure its not an issue on your end? I have played quite a few ubi developed titles over the years (most recent being fc3) and the only one I can pick out as being shoddy was splinter cell double agent. Ubi is not a dev I shy away from for pc ports.
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wastedcells  +   388d ago
I agree it doesn't look bad by any means. On PS4 anyway. But I do agree in that delay they must have figured the game would just run better if they turned the graphics down. They delayed it like a month before release. They must have had frame rate issues or something because a delay that late in the game and the fact that they couldn't change anything at this point without major delays leads to the obvious. Less characters on screen. Removing effects. Basically playing with the engine to get a smooth 30fps and maintain 1080p and whatever xbone is. Sucks but still it's a first gen (next gen) game. Once they figure out the hardware and scrap the ps360 version the next one will look more like the division no doubt. Let's just hope its a great game and wait for better graphics next round.
irepbtown  +   388d ago
Lets hope that The Division doesn't get the same treatment... I'm genuinely worried about that. Watchdogs and The Division are two of the games I was looking forward to the most, I'm not so sure anymore.
wastedcells  +   387d ago
The division is next gen only so it won't be the same kinda fuct up this is.
SaturdayNightBeaver  +   388d ago
it would have been as damn good as Division , but for some reason game is extremely dumbed down in graphics for the newer versions , i wanna know why , maybe cause of weaker consoles or something , who knows.
Patrick_pk44  +   388d ago
Are you expecting The Division to be the same from the E3 footage? Videos showed at press conferences and game shows are bullshots.
Venemox  +   388d ago
After seeing the downgrade Watch Dogs received, you still think The Division is going to look that good (Both Ubi games)?

How deluded can you be.
JsonHenry  +   388d ago
I'll be getting the PC version. They can say whatever they want but they would have to go out of their way to make the PC less than superior compared to any console version. (assuming your PC is up to the task)

This sort of PR talk is not comforting in the least.

Long story short- PROVE IT! I'll believe it when I see it.
Corpser  +   389d ago
Now I'm worried about the pc version lol, are they downgrading it to closer to ps4?
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gapecanpie  +   389d ago
I hope that's not the case. Most of the the time the weak consoles are holding PC back. sigh!
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T2  +   388d ago
Hilarious joke. As are you aware most of these games wouldn't even be made if not for consoles. How's that for holding back
DeadIIIRed  +   388d ago
The only thing holding my PC back is my wallet
tee_bag242  +   388d ago
@ joecanada

Console came into existence because of PC's. Silly child.
Alucard_420  +   388d ago
@tee_bag242 joecanada's statement said it was because of consoles that games like that were made, so console were made because of pc, what's your point? why do you have to troll? and frankly why should you care !!! you should be thanking console supporters for making the platforms successful, because if console gamers weren't there, these games would not be inspired to be made, more games give me more variety to play as pc gamers, quite honestly this pc OP progamers BS is just RET@RDED
tee_bag242  +   388d ago
@ Alucard

Mute point. Why does an inconvient fact make it trolling to you? I own consoles too.. So I'll congratulate myself too! Quite frankly, you sound like a blind fanboy incapable of comprehension.
webeblazing  +   388d ago
nope games would of still been made. i dont get why you think everything revolve around console and that if the wasnt around the world will set fire.
JsonHenry  +   388d ago

Seeing as how PC gaming sales take up half of all other gaming platforms I am not sure where you draw that conclusion from.

Scroll down. Read 'em and weep. http://www.gdconf.com/news/...
Alucard_420  +   386d ago
Well that's you'r opinion, but after reading so many comments on this website, don't tell me a comment like your's was not meant to troll. Second of all I ain't no fanboy, I Own a WII U ps3 ps4 3ds vita and a high end pc. So label me a fanboy if you like, but I sure ain't one, and sry if I despises pc fanboy's more then anything else because the are arrogant as hell. The fact that joecanada got so many disagree's for his comment is a joke so sry for calling you guys out.
Alucard_420  +   386d ago
FYI ,I prefer gaming on the pc more then anything else tyvm.
Alucard_420  +   386d ago
@webeblazing I don't think you read my post properly.... I didn't say everything revolves around consoles so plz don't put words in my mouth sir, you don't speak on my behalf tyvm.
Alucard_420  +   386d ago
Oh and remember all even tho GTA started on PC and PSX, consoles are what made that game huge, so why isn't GTA V on pc??? Sales speak for itself. I'm not happy about that, I skip GTA V because of that.
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deSSy2724  +   388d ago
When it comes to PS4, X1 and PC. No, they wont downgrade it on PC because of PS4 and X1 when it comes to graphics. In modern tools/editors, you can change the graphics ON FLY. So, no..... however, they could downgrade it because of PS4 and X1 when it comes to AI, physics etc or in other words CPU. But, I think, that will not happen yet, but in future (lets say 2016-2018), SURE.
Flyingdog670  +   389d ago
I'm really hoping the footage we saw was last-gen or an early build of the game, because it looks nothing like the trailers and gameplay demos shown at E3. My bets are that the trailer was using Alpha footage, but that's just me.
Alpha footage at this stage of the game? With less than 3 months to go for release? I'm sorry, but if that were the case... A pre order wouldn't even be considered anymore.

And I really hope that the gameplay is last gen footage. However, I'm skeptical that it ain't. Why would you showcase a highly anticipated title of 2014 with ps3/360 hardware? That just doesn't make sense..
heisenberguk  +   388d ago
The gamespot footage was PS4, the bloke who had the hour play through and wrote the article on it confirmed it
BattleTorn  +   388d ago
What's with Ubisoft and putting out alarmingly bad trailers...

Anyone remember the Aisha Tyler trailer, and they later backtracked saying it was old Alpha footage
GiantEnemyCrab  +   389d ago
So is the XB1 version just a straight port of the Xbox 360 version? Seems like it.
TheTowelBoy  +   389d ago
I understand people want to believe this is either Ps3/360 footage or maybe alpha stuff, and believe me, somewhere in me I want it to be that. But lets be real, why would Ubi show last gen stuff for the reopening of info on this, their blockbuster new IP, before showing next gen footage? I have this game preordered.. I just hope it isn't this gen footage :(
Ashunderfire86  +   388d ago
Well you forgot that they accidentally show us this early footage that was thought to be the current gen footage.


The story trailer is the 360 build not next gen people!
BattleTorn  +   388d ago
Like the guy above said, they've done it before...
madduey  +   389d ago
Haven't seen the new footage yet, link anyone??
Be interesting to see how they've downgraded it

EDIT: just watched game spots preview! Wow!! Really shocked by how different it is.
0 atmosphere looks very bland. Sick of companies who get away with the bait & switch tactic! Wowing me at e3 then trying to pass this of as the same!
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BattleTorn  +   388d ago
W. T. F. happened?

They delayed it so they could downgrade it?!?!!
BattleTorn  +   388d ago
Like, where'd all the rain effects go?!??!
Bonkerz  +   389d ago
You guys have got to realize that when the games are first shown they are so edited to make it look 100x better then what its actually going to look like on the actual hardware. Maybe in a few years when devs have had experience with PS4 and X1's hardware the best graphical titles will come. Btw trust me gameplay demolishes a great visual experience always, idc how the game looks if it plays like crap.
DeadIIIRed  +   388d ago
If that was the case a majority of top selling games would still be sprite based.
bunfighterii  +   388d ago
That shouldn't be the standard though. We shouldn't expect that what they show us is nothing like the product we'll actually get. It's expectation management - they set our expectations high by showing a great reveal, you can't now turn around and say its our fault for believing it. If this whole reveal v current build is accurate then Ubi just plan mislead their fan base.

Don't over promise and under deliver is key part of any business relationship.
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   389d ago
Visually the PS4 version looks awful so imagine what the PS3/360/Xbone versions will look like. Uhh. I've never seen a game get delayed and look 10x worse than it did before.

And what does that mean "isn't given its place to PC." ?
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Harmonizer  +   389d ago
Playstation 3 footage by the looks of it, i hope....

Think i see a square here and there for activating stuff.
Shakengandulf  +   388d ago
Yeah... I'm going with ps3.
If it is ps4... I'll wait and see what the reviews/players think about it apon release.
kingduqc  +   389d ago
Not sure how it can compete to 1440p but we'll see I guess.
neoandrew  +   389d ago
Yeah and i'm sure this pc will cost 400 usd...
kingduqc  +   388d ago
yeah and I'm sure I don't fuck a flying fuck about that, mine will.

50$ a year, 10-30$ PER game, a pc pays itself way faster and you get a better experience. Just do some math.
neoandrew  +   388d ago
Yeah best experience especially with ps4 exs, black screen at 1440p, that must be marvelous.

A pc or console don't need to pay off.
heisenberguk  +   388d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4/XONE ports of GTA5 look on par or better than how this game looks now
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sypher  +   388d ago
We always get a downgrade. Simply because they show these games at E3 running on a super expensive PC than can handle anything you throw at it.

Then they have to fit them inside actual real boxes that sit in peoples homes and reality hits. They are never as good as what we see at E3. They are designed to wow us on stage, show pieces to get us talking etc. And well, it works year after year. So what reason is there for them to stop doing it? None.
wannabe gamer  +   388d ago
ok so that confirms it. they have had to make concessions with the game(easy to see with comparison of E3) and he basically said the PC version wont trump the console version. which means the PC version is gonna be gimped/restrained by consoles. waste of potential.
LeCreuset  +   388d ago
Judging by that footage I saw earlier, I'd say he forgot to add, "It's giving it's place to the PS3."

This game was running on PS4 before being watered down. Ubi has some 'splainin' to do.
Ashunderfire86  +   388d ago
Guys this is from the 360 build, not the next gen one. It says 360 in the story trailer. They haven't downgrade it one bit. It still looks impressive for a current gen version though.
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DeadMansHand  +   388d ago
You need to do a little more research. What is coming is a very gimped down version from what we saw at E3. It's going to be Watch Tomb Raider Dogs on ps4/xone
Ashunderfire86  +   388d ago
I swear I saw the 360 version label on the story trailer. I notice they change it to PC and next gen, when it is the same exact trailer as the 360 one I saw earlier. This is why many of us gamers are confused. So I did a little research, and I know what I am saying.
Mr-Dude  +   388d ago
I saw the trailer yesterday when it leaked and there was a 360 logo at the end. So let's hope the next gen version looks better
wannabe gamer  +   387d ago
Someone asked Sonynetherlands account on twitter and they said PS4. lets hope they were wrong cause this will be the letdown of the decade otherwise
CertifiedGamer  +   388d ago
This game isn't gimped because of the PS4 or X1 but gimped because of the past gen consoles. People are saying the same thing will happen with the division but the division game is a current gen and will not be available in past gen systems so I expect it to look as good as it did in e3. Right now PS3 and 360 are in 170 million houses so that is who developers want to satisfy the most. Money talks and that's reality.
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Salooh  +   388d ago
I'm with you on that. That's the worst part of this new generation. Developers are not taking it seriously , they only think about the money. However , i'm still buying this for the story. It looks interesting , the gameplay have few original stuff(At least in gaming).
aliengmr  +   388d ago
Regardless of what may or my not have been downgraded, never 100% trust footage you haven't experienced yourself.
Longshot28  +   388d ago
Just a heads up

Watch Dogs ‏@watchdogsgame 4h
Watch_Dogs will be hosting a Q&A session on @TwitchTV with our development team tomorrow (3/7/14) at 12:00pm PST -- be sure to tune in!
static360  +   388d ago
i don't think pc ever gave its place up in the first place. am a console person and i even know pc still leaves consoles in the dust
mysteryraz11  +   388d ago
game never looked next gen at all anyways, kz sf,ryse,infamous second son,order1886 etc all looked next gen and far better then a game the ps3 or xbox360 could produce, especially the order1886 that looks insane graphically, they need to focus ont he new consoles now not the old 1s
Azzanation  +   388d ago
I think the PS4 and XB1 versions fell the moment the PC version claimed 4k.
wannabe gamer  +   387d ago
4k is overrated just due to the fact that so few people can even run it.
Azzanation  +   387d ago
Its not overated if you have seen the picture quality it delivers. 4k will be a standard just like 1080p has become. 4k isn't far off from becoming a house hold standard. Only price.
HumanatPlay  +   388d ago
They delayed the game only to make it look like this? After seeing The Order 1866, The Division, KZ:Shadow Fall I'm supposed to accept the watering down of visuals in what was poised to be a great game and a visual spectacle? F@#@# this shit. Im going with Infamous for my open world experience if UBISOFT doesn't deliver what was shown at E3. A@#holes!

We didn't pay 400 - 500$ for our respective 'next-gen' platforms for bull-shots and boot-leg tactics! This is why multi-platform & cross-gen game development is killing quality and finish in games.
EjWarrior  +   388d ago
guys you have to watch the new screen shots its awesome much better graphics
Jovanian  +   388d ago
Bravo consoles. Not even a year out and they are stunting progress for everyone, with severely gimped visuals because the hardware can't handle it.
Sokol  +   388d ago
What kind of a thinking is that really? It hasn't been a year, it's been three months and majority of the games are being released on the old generation as well.

One look at The order 1886, and upcoming InFamous will tell you that new consoles can provide spectacular visuals.

Think before you post...
MaxwellBuddha  +   388d ago
Infamous? You need to stop gawking at pre-rendered cutscenes and pay attention to the actual gameplay graphics, because they SUCK.
GamingTruth  +   383d ago
maxwells eyes suck ugly pc graphics have tricked his eyes
Lboogieskells  +   388d ago
Hold up, what did I miss? Did WatchDogs get a downgrade?

I was already on the fence about purchasing this game. Ubisoft just made my next move real easy for me. This game is a rental at best.
Qwagy UK  +   388d ago
I'll be playing this at 4K @ 60fps
BlasterGR  +   388d ago
relax dude! you must have at least 3 Titans to do that!
Npugz7  +   388d ago
Game looks last gen!!!
Mikethejew  +   388d ago
I work in the industry and what ubisoft and a lot of publishers do is create a very scripted subset of the game using high end PCs. This is never expected to be used in any version of the game, including PC as the amount of memory and storage just for the tech demo is close to the size of the full game. Basically it's a scam to get you hyped up and then reality hits you in the face, the problem for ubisoft was they delayed it by 6 months so all hype has died down and now what they released as video is clearly vastly inferior to what they were showing.
seraphym88  +   388d ago
Nintendo/PC gamer here, and ill just get Wii U version, even though its delayed. That off-screen game play is sweet, also, im willing to bet it stands up to xb1 version.

At some point, ill most likely get a ps4 as well. However, with the ps3...it was more powerful than high-end PCs just for a small while. (or at least equal). With ps4 it came out as a mid range pc. so i dont feel the bang-for-buck as much. Also, as for exclusives, PC and Nintendo have always been best.
HaveAsandwich  +   388d ago
"isn't giving it's place". wtf does that even mean.
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