Submitted by Pozzle 294d ago | opinion piece

Should Kingdom Hearts 3 be released on Wii U?

Wii U Daily: "Today we’ll be talking about the Kingdom Hearts series history with Nintendo, and whether or not I think it will come to Wii U!" (Kingdom Hearts 3, Wii U)

jc48573  +   294d ago
maybe, but they need to release the ones that never came out on the system.
hulk_bash1987  +   294d ago
Since it is coming to the Xbox One and other Kingdom Hearts games have appeared on Nintendo Platforms already, I don't see why not.
Eonjay  +   294d ago
The producer has already explained why its not coming to Wii U. Everyone is ignoring Nomura. He said that the Wii U is not compatible with the version of DirectX that is used in this game.

Reported by NintendoEverything:

"The Wii U’s inability to properly support DirectX 11 is apparently one of the major reasons third-parties pointed to when asked why their PlayStation 4/Xbox One games aren't planned for Wii U."


This was announced back at E3.
ZainreFang  +   294d ago
Eonjay, that's wrong. He never even mentioned Wii U. The media blew it out of proportion to get more clicks.

ChickeyCantor  +   294d ago
" He said that the Wii U is not compatible with the version of DirectX that is used in this game.

Eh, shaders can be implemented. Sounds like their engine isn't set for capability.
TheGrimReaper  +   294d ago
"Eh, shaders can be implemented. Sounds like their engine isn't set for capability."

Well, they don't want do the extra work just for one console. It's a publishers decision. Maybe they think a Wii U Version isn't worth (read: making them enough money) the extra work.

Maybe Nintendo should reach out to them asking if they could help them developing a Wii U version (with knowledge/developers/money).

KH seems like a natural fit for a Nintendo console. Iconic characters, vivid and colorful worlds, enjoyable by players of different age...
lilbroRx  +   294d ago
This logic has never made sense...

It has been on Nintendo hardware many times. The Xbox hardwrae is the only one it hasn't and its being released on it.

Something I really wonder if people who hat Nintendo live in another dimension.
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BLuTheSecond  +   294d ago
Of course it should be released.

The more systems the better.

The question is will it sell well and be worth the effort to bring over?
dmitrijs88  +   294d ago
TBH Kingdom Hearts must always be on Playstation (or at least main series).
serratos27  +   294d ago
That's what I'm saying.
wonderfulmonkeyman  +   294d ago
Dream Drop Distance, believe it or not, is a part of the main line of the series.
It's the events leading into KH3, so that theory is gone.
princejb134  +   294d ago
I say no
I rather them use the power of next gen
8gb ram can do a lot of great things for this game
Spurg  +   294d ago
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't
vishmarx   294d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(1)
linkenski  +   294d ago
I do. Either it would be too noticable that it was a ported job or the porting would hinder the next-gen versions of it graphically, and from that teaser it looks to truly utilize what PS4 and XB1 can do. I think porting to Wii U would be hard.
GotHDGame  +   294d ago
Kingdom Hearts, is hardly the type of game that is in need of powerhouse hardware to look good. The Wii U is quite capable of having the game look amazing and then some. So no it would not be hard to port it.

Wii U do not forget runs the latest game engines, and that says allot.
higgins78  +   294d ago
You really think? Ok, in that case I cant wait to see the final build when its officially released and gasp in amazement, standing in the presence of the first "next gen" game in existence. I seriously, seriously doubt the Wii U's hardware could ever hold back a game of this type. I really cant wait to see what ONLY PS4 or Xbox one offer in its advantage.
wonderfulmonkeyman  +   294d ago
They aren't going for photo-realism, so the Wii U could easily handle the graphical quality.
Outside of that, I see no other reason why it couldn't handle the game if it were optimized correctly.
Tito08  +   294d ago
@GotHDGame- Latest engines? Ok, when I see a Frostbite 3, UE4 and Pantha Rei on Wii U, then we talk.
-Foxtrot  +   294d ago
...because you'd want them to take advantage of next gen hardware

Not it being held back because of the Wii U
Snookies12  +   294d ago
I really like the Wii U, but that is my worry as well. I want it to take full advantage of the hardware of PS4/X1. I don't mind it being on Wii U as a port or something, but fans of the series have been waiting on this game for so freaking long. I don't want anything holding it back from being as grand as it should be.
ChickeyCantor  +   294d ago
Yeah, because the gameplay is so much different from their PS2 counterparts. This game is so complex in everyway that the Wii U will hold it back

maniacmayhem  +   294d ago
Yes, how will the WiiU hold back Kingdom Hearts?

Please explain Foxtrot, what sort of design and new features is this game using that cannot be done when porting it over to the WiiU?

Is there a new combat feature that the X1/PS4 exclusively has over the WiiU?

Are there another set of buttons and controls that the WiiU can't handle and the X1/PS4 can?

Is the game so big that it can't fit on the proprietary Nintendo WiiU disc?

You have enough bubbles to reply and fully explain what you meant in your original comment.
TheGrimReaper  +   294d ago
So, you've played the final game and are able to tell us the memory/cpu/gpu usage of the game?

If they are using the resources only for the visuals, yes they could port (downgrade) it easily to Wii U BUT you don't know how they are using them (neither do I)
ChickeyCantor  +   293d ago
"So, you've played the final game and are able to tell us the memory/cpu/gpu usage of the game? "

Have you?

Your point is pointless.

The third game WILL hold up to it's prequels. Changing the gameplay would be terrible blow to the fans. You're just talking about cosmetics. Nothing more nothing less.
MONKEYDLUFFY  +   294d ago
Yes! I can almost gaurantee it would sell better than on Xbox. When people say that third party games don;t sell well on Nintendo they aren't taking into account what type of games. We could care less about COD or Madden. But KH is an awesome fun creative colorful game. It fits well with the fanbase. I love Kingdom Hearts(I bought a ps2 just to play it)
chikane  +   294d ago
lilbroRx  +   294d ago
And is there any logic to this no besides fanboyish bias against Nintendo?
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ZainreFang  +   294d ago
The only reason is that they want to see the game take advantage of PS4/XBO power but what will they do to this Kingdom Hearts game that isn't impossible on Wii U? These people need to accept that console tech got to a point of diminishing returns and the only stuff they will get from these consoles is more polished versions of last-gen games. Third parties aren't that creative. The specs give them space to have sloppier programming. Just drop the graphic quality, and optimize for the CPU/GPGPU/eDRAM/DSP.
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DryBoneKoopa85  +   294d ago
I would LOVE for this to come to the Wii U. Either way PS4 or Wii U I will be picking KH3 up day 1.
Edvin1984  +   294d ago | Well said
Yeah, I say the more people get to play it the better. As long as the quality of the title on other platforms does not suffer I am all for it. Also, would mean hopefully more cash for squarenix to make KH4.
lilbroRx  +   294d ago
When has the quality of any game dropped because it would be ported after it had already started development?
Edvin1984  +   294d ago
What I am saying is if they have to cut resources of the original product to make a port. I am all for giving this game to as many gamers as possible.
jonboi24  +   294d ago
The question isn't should it but can it be released on the Wii U? Is it even worth the money to downscale the game to get to work on the Wii U?
Irishguy95  +   294d ago
Of course it could. The Wii U is not 'that' weak.

@ Swank sinatra, the 3DS has gotten KH3D, which is certainly a main line title.

Edit -

To address your issues, it is weak compared to them. Not so weak that it couldn't run their games, the thing is quite alot more powerful than the last gen consoles despite what the comments on this website try to state. About the size, it's called compression. Example, Skyrim is 6GB, Uncharted 3 is 38GB's/ Witcher 2(More graphical effects than Uncharted and MUCH more content) was around 20 GB's. The only reason next gen games are so big space wise is because Devs no longer need to compress them as much. Since X1 and Ps4 both have Blu Ray, however even at that, compression is always available.

The game would obvious run at a lower res and have less graphical effects, but yeah, it should be able to run at lower settings.
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jonboi24  +   294d ago
When compared to the PS4 and Xbone, it's weak. Hell considering how most next-gen games need to be installed into the hdd, this game alone could be bigger than the 32gb Wii U.
lilbroRx  +   294d ago
You do know that the Wii U was built with the use of external hard drives for game storage in mind right?

Also, its cheaper to downscale it for the Wii U than build another version at the same level as the Xbone/4
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CaptainSellers   294d ago | Trolling | show
RPG_Lover  +   294d ago
Yes, why not? 3 KH games have been on Nintendo platforms. (The butthurt trolling above is amazing!)
blackbirdi  +   294d ago
i don t care on which console it will be out as long it's not a pc exclusive
TM333  +   294d ago
As long as the PS4 version isn't compromised... sure. They're already giving it to Xbone, so might as well share the goodies.
MrSwankSinatra  +   294d ago
KH3 on Wii U makes more sense than putting it on Xbox One, I'll tell you that. Though if you put KH3 on Wii U it wouldn't sell and Nintendo platforms may have had KH games, but they never had any of the main titles such as KH, KH2 & KH:BBS. So either way you look at it KH3 coming to either Wii U or Xbox makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. An Nintendo will never get to see the main titles since sony has the exclusive rights over them in the form of HD collections.
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jonboi24  +   294d ago
Sony doesn't have any exclusive rights to any Kingdom Hearts games. It was Square-Enix's decision to make the game collections exclusive to ps3.
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Tito08  +   294d ago
Why do you think Tekken Tag HD is PS3 only? Kingdom Hearts HDrd PS3 only? Final Fantasy X/X2 only on PS3/Vita. There are certain games in a 3rd party franchise that stays exclusive to one console brand. Microsoft holds the exclusive rights to Splinter Cell: Conviction and the first two 3D Ninja Gaiden games, in order for Tecmo to release em to PS3, they had to re-brand em as NG Sigma 1&2, RE1 and MGS1(Twin Snakes)remakes on GC can't go to anything that isn't Nintendo, if a 3rd party wants to release a certain exclusive rights. So actually, the business surrounding an exclusive game is pretty much up to agreements between 1st and 3rd party companies. This is actually nothing new and you should of known that by now, smh. Square Enix could have released that KH HD a long time ago if it wasn't for their exclusivity deal with Sony.
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eaise  +   294d ago
Dream Drop Distance was a main title. And exclusive to the 3DS. There is a fairly large fanbase for KH on Nintendo systems. I agree that the sony KH fanbase is larger. But why bring it to X1 that has zero KH fanbase. Square Enix you make no sense
lilbroRx  +   294d ago
Failed logic as the two beneath you point out.

Also, the Wii U has a bigger install gbase than the Xbone, especially in Japan...so please explain this fanbase argument.
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ado908  +   294d ago
stragomccloud  +   294d ago
It absolutely should. I'd pick that over any other version because of the gamepad.
gedden7  +   294d ago

Its too obvious.
pecorre  +   294d ago
Not if it compromise the quality of the PS4 version.
Ck1x  +   294d ago
If that's the case, the PS4 and XbOne compromise PC ports then! I know people are reaching and yes the PS4 Is Stronger than The WiiU. But the system is having its own problems running it's own games at high quality, has nothing to do with the WiiU.
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Flyingdog670  +   294d ago
Makes more sense to put it on WiiU than on XO on a fan standpoint, but on a business standpoint, Xbox One has a better chance of selling more units of the game than WiiU. But I think we all know its gonna sell the most on PS4.
eaise  +   294d ago
Can you explain why X1 will sell more copies of the game please? KH goes better with Nintendo than with Microsoft. Microsoft isn't really about the colorful character stuff. There is an actual fanbase on Nintendo systems while no fanbase on Microsoft. PS4 copies will sell the most regardless what other systems it comes out on. But if Square wanted to release it multiplat it makes much more sense from all standpoints to release it on PS4 and Wii U than to release it on PS4 and X1.
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Flyingdog670  +   294d ago
Well I'm no expert on the subject, but if the XO ends up selling more Units than WiiU down the road, then obviously they will want to release on Xbox One than WiiU.Companies look more towards install base rather than Fan Base.
LoveOfTheGame  +   294d ago
I love how all these experts know that there is 0 fanbase for KH on Xbox. I guess I wasn't excited about KH3 coming to Xbox One, who knew?

The KH franchise started on the PS2, that was what ~10 yrs ago. I guess there was now way in that amount of time anyone who played KH could have bought an Xbox.
eaise  +   294d ago
KH is huge in Japan where the Wii U install base is growing quickly and X1 isn't doing well. Also it makes more sense for a company to cater to a fanbase than an install base. Fans will definitely buy the game and will probabaly pre-order. High install base means that people might eventually buy the game once it gets cheap. IMO the X1 version of KH3 is gonna flop badly.
WeAreLegion  +   294d ago
It would be nice if it came out on all three. Heck, add PC, Vita, and 3DS while you're at it. However, I'm not sure if the Wii U would be able to run it without removing several features. We don't know how demanding it is, obviously, but still.

By the time this comes out, the PS4 and XBO will be $50 a pop anyway. -_-
wonderfulmonkeyman  +   294d ago
It's not using photo-realism, so it can't be that demanding, and unless they've included combat systems so complicated that the Wii U's power can't do it, I doubt there's anything holding them back other than the low popularity of the Wii U and the time it would take to properly develop the title around the system's architecture, to get it properly optimized.
WeAreLegion  +   294d ago
Physics, lighting, particles, on-screen AI, and many other things factor into a game's graphics. If you want a game that looks as good as Toy Story 3, you're not going to be able to play it on the Wii U.
Up_N_U  +   294d ago
idk but kingdom hearts 3ds sold systems and I don't even like kingdom hearts games but if it sells consoles it must be a good game I remember how well the first one did in 02 or 03.
Linchpin  +   294d ago
well, since the Wii U has the bigger install base than the Xbone...
SolidGear3  +   294d ago
Yes.. more consoles the better
kenshiro100  +   294d ago
As long as quality doesn't suffer.
MilkMan  +   294d ago
Lets make this simple. Every game that can be on the platform should be on the platform. Easy enough?
ZainreFang  +   294d ago
Hell yes.. There are Kingdom Hearts fans on Nintendo systems. Heck, bring it to Wii U with 3DS connectivity to extra content from KH3D and sell even more games.
GenericNameHere  +   294d ago
Should Square Enix, whose sales expectations are absolutely bonkers, sell their game on a failing platform? Gee, that's a tough question!
NYC_Gamer  +   294d ago
Why not?there's no reason to ignore Wii U owners.
Goro  +   294d ago
Obviously not because that will make N4G's Sony fanboys mad...
ado908  +   294d ago
Why would it get them mad? It's already on xbone. People on here mainly don't want it, including myself, because we fear they will release it gimped on the PS4 if it releases on the Wii U.
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Ck1x  +   294d ago
People's logic on here is ridiculous! A port to the WiiU wouldn't effect the other versions, because Square would probably have some other studio do the porting over. Just like they did with Deus Ex HR. Most of the WiiU 3rd party games are handled by an outside hired studio to be honest. So it's not about whether it should or could come to the system, it's that this is another game that Nintendo shouldn't let pass by without stepping in. Even if it means they pick up the publishing, Nintendo should do it.
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ado908  +   294d ago

Dues Ex is a last gen game that got ported to a stronger console, the wii u. Kingdom Hearts 3 is a game being made for current gen Xbone and PS4, two consoles clearly stronger than the Wii U, and porting it won't affect the result of the game? The developers will create the game based off the capabilities of all 3 consoles. If graphics don't suffer because of the Wii U then the gameplay will and if the gameplay suffers the graphical capabilities will. It's why watch dogs looks absolutely terrible for the PS3 and Xbox 360.
SugarSoSweet  +   294d ago
That's my fear the Wii U will gimp the PS4 and Xbox One version
wonderfulmonkeyman  +   294d ago
If they did, I know that I'd be lining up to buy it.

As would a majority of Wii U owners, seeing as the game's art style makes it feel like a good fit for the system.
SugarSoSweet  +   294d ago
HELL NO!!! why?? simple because the Wii U's shitty specs will bring down the quality of the game I want this ultimate and last experience to be NEXT GEN only (I don't consider the Wii U next gen because it barely edges the 360 and PS3 in power)

If they develop this game to run on the Wii U it will cripple the experience worlds will be smaller lighting will be dimmer and effects will be duller due to the Wii U only having 1 GB of ram available to games laughable....
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