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Will Smash Bros Save Or Kill the Wii U?

Chris Hyde of Dealspwn writes: "You don't have to look very far across the interweb to see pages and pages detailing the doom and gloom of the Wii U these days. Even here at Dealspwn we've been mixed in our opinions of Nintendo's latest console and it's future. But for all the naysayers and harbingers of misery there have also been many who point to a few AAA titles on the horizon that may yet save the floundering machine. And arguably the biggest of these flagship titles is Super Smash Bros.

But despite this franchise having legions of fans, and is almost guaranteed to be a sure-fire hit, could even this title be a double-edged sword for the Wii U? Could it potentially do more damage than good?"

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TheLyonKing941d ago

Personal opinion and I am probably in the minority but I think it will keep it on life support that bit longer as for a full revival you only have to look at the n64 and gamecube to see that it sells systems but not an insane amount.

That being said I will be picking up a wii u for this haha

Neonridr941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

N64 sold over 5 million copies, Gamecube sold over 7 million copies, Wii version sold over 12 million copies.

How many 1st party games from Sony or MS have numbers like that?

Smash Bros is the farthest away from a casual game..

TheLyonKing941d ago

I don't think you read my comment properly sir.

I am talking about console sales rather than copies of the game.

Neonridr941d ago

I read it fine thanks. How can you say that a game that sold over 7 million on the Gamecube didn't sell any systems in the process? You know that for a fact? Or are we guessing now?

12 million Wii Owners picked this game up, and it wasn't any of the casual soccer moms or grandmas/grandpas. That means people were actively purchasing this game, and it could have easily moved consoles as a result.

GrizzliS1987941d ago

this nerd getting so emo over his precious game lol

anyway, yea im buying a wii u for the new smash as well, it will give wii U a boost in sales but not nearly enough for wii Us survival.

the system is done, and nintendo is already planning a replacement.

enjoy the games it has

TheLyonKing941d ago

Obviously there are no certain ways to determine how many bought a console purely for a game but:

The n64 sold: 32.93 million units and sold 5 million games coming out in 1999 by then the n64 had already been out for 3 nearly 4 years, most of the hardcore fans had already bought the system most likely. Its a similar story with the gamecube as well based on number of units and when the console and game were released.

TomShoe941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

I think a bigger problem for Smash on the Wii U is it's 3DS counterpart. If people feel like it's not worth it for the HD version and get the 3DS version instead, that may hurt the Wii U more than anything.

Ninty was really between a rock and a hard place with the decision to put Smash on 3DS. Would you attempt to revitalize a console on life support, at the cost of not releasing on your bigger install base, and the profit that comes with it?

Neonridr941d ago

TheLyonKing - no there definitely isn't anyway to know for sure. But when the Gamecube only sold like 22 million units and 1/3 of the install base purchased Smash Bros, there's a good chance that some of those people bought the console for that game.

Regardless, we are both planning on getting the game and that's the important thing.

desolationstorm941d ago

In the US Melee came out about 2 weeks after launch. I would say that game led to a substantial amount of system sales.

For the Wii U it should entice a portion of gamers to buy a system.

Would imagine there will be a DL bundle also. If the price holds fast not a BSD deal.

I think the game combined with Mario Kart coming out should push the install base over the 10 million mark in 2014.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory940d ago

@TheLyonKing
That where you are wrong.
Nintendo games sales aren't tied to amount of hardware it sold.

It all about the franchise selling rate.

Smash Bros has gone up.
N64 sold 11m more units than GC. Yet Melee sold the most.

They success bring of the franchise more sales not hardware.

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Chris_Hyde941d ago

To be clear

Console:
N64 33m
GameCube 22m
Wii 100m
Wii U >6m

Smash Bros Software:
N64 5m
GameCube 7m
Wii 11m
Wii U ???

The impact the game COULD have on Wii U sales is interesting.

HardcoreDaBoss941d ago

I guess what Its trying to say is will it be one of the last and only games to shift some units out. who know? mario kart and smash will sell many wii u systems and thats a fact.

4logpc941d ago

How would it kill the Wii U? That makes zero sense.

Chris_Hyde941d ago

Comment on an article without reading it?

That makes zero sense.

Ck1x941d ago

So what you are saying is you put that in the title just for hits then! Gotcha

4logpc941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

Someone is quite defensive.

I did read it, and it still doesn't make sense to me.

Chris_Hyde941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

Ck1x -Erm, not sure what you're getting at here. But the article clearly explores both sides of the argument.

I was merely challenging someone who asks a question of the author that is clearly answered in the article itself.

The fact that the question was asked was proof the article wasn't read.

NiteX941d ago

My best guess is he thinks if Smash doesn't sell, then nothing will, so Nintendo would just shutdown the production of future Wii U games? But I seriously doubt Nintendo would just call the quits on the Wii U if Smash doesn't sell.

4logpc941d ago

I read his explanation buy it doesnt make sense to my brain.

The fact the game is on the 3ds will make this the most successful smash bros to date and will sell enough on the 3ds to make money alone.

Chris_Hyde941d ago

4logpc - I agree with you, the 3DS version will sell like mad.

It's almost guaranteed to do well.

I was just exploring the impact this could have (and other things) on the Wii U version and the Wii U itself.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory940d ago

But here the problem with 3DS. Local Multiplayer.
You have to find others to play instead of inviting.

Will also be inferior to Wii U by a lot in performance, online and when it comes to party and tournaments.

3DS version will sell more in Japan. While Wii U elsewhere.

sweetSWAGGER940d ago (Edited 940d ago )

The article's answer? The fact that there's a 3DS version of the game. The article is saying that because there's a bigger install base for the 3DS compared to the Wii U, most people would just get the 3DS version, thus preventing the need to go out and buy a Wii U for the game. So basically, that option might hurt Smash Bros. ability to move Wii U's.

Unless there's another reason besides graphics and a few unique stages to get the home console version, why would I get a Wii U for Smash Bros when I have a 3DS? The roster is said to be the same, and that's all I care about.

Then again, some people will get a Wii U just to play with their friends... or because they just have to use that gamepad. Makes me wonder how Smash is going to incorporate that controller. Should be interesting.

BoneBone941d ago

Save. Kill. Unprofessional click-bait nonsense.

Please read: http://n4g.com/news/1466350...

jonboi24941d ago

Only issue I can probably see is that they are releasing a Smash Bros on the 3DS. I have to wonder if this will effect the Wii U in any way. From what I've heard and seen the only differences thus far are the graphics and stages.

SteamPowered941d ago

I wish Ninty would have a bit more cross-platform games with the Wii U and 3ds. Animal Crossings could have been solid gold if you could transfer your character from portable to console. I understand what you are saying with having 2 of the same on different platforms, but I think Ninty could help the Wii U attach rate by riding the success of the 3ds.

DryBoneKoopa85941d ago

I have NEVER heard of a game killing a system in the 23 years I have been gaming (I'm 28). I would think Smash would have a positive effect for the system not a negative.

Only problem I see is the 3DS version launching with the console version. Who knows, the 3DS version could come out before or after the Wii U one considering there are no dates listed for either tittle. All Nintendo has said is 2014 and that's it. Some including IGN believe that Nintendo might delay the 3DS version into early next year and release the Wii U one this holiday. I would say that might be a safe bet and maybe a smart bet for Nintendo.

Neonridr941d ago

Nintendo has to release the 3DS version after the Wii U version. They would be stupid to release the handheld version first. The 3DS could definitely take away a lot of sales from the Wii U version. By having the console version release first, they can at least ensure that those who are desperate for a Smash Bros fix will want to purchase the Wii U for it rather than just getting it on the 3DS.

Besides, I don't know how well the controls are going to work with the 3DS. It's a very frantic precise game, and the buttons on the 3DS are a little small and close together.

DryBoneKoopa85941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

I just started playing Smash with the one on the Wii. I would have to say the Wii controller is terrible for Smash. I can see what you mean about the 3DS controls.

I'm sure Nintendo has something planned for the release of the tittles. I just can't wait to get my hands on them.

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