On the eve of the Play-Station 3 launch, Ken Kutaragi, the head of Sony Computer Entertainment and the creator of all three generations of the hit game console, took time off to give a rare interview to NEWSWEEK's Steven Levy, via phone from Tokyo.
Stop this already! How much time does Sony needs to prove that the 360 is a piece of crap as they say it is. "Maybe within a year.", great! So, now everytime a game come out for the 360 that shows better graphics than the PS3 games or equal graphics it will mean nothing! And when a year passes Sony will say, "Well, developers had more time to work on the 360 games. and PS3 developer only have 1 year with the system... in a year." That's not what they said before. So, what they are saying is, don't expect anything better than the 360 at least for another year? Great! this is Great! more flame for another year.
what are you talking about? the dude didn't even mention Microsoft or the 360. he simply said that in a years time he thinks developers will have grasped the potential of the PS3, and games will look superior. to what, he didn't say. he could've been inferring that in a years time games will look superior to launch titles. did you ever consider that? i understand that you may not like Sony, and you like to critique every itty-bitty thing that they do. but herein this article there is no substance to start a Microsoft/360 vs. Sony/PS3 debate. it's just one engineer talking about his product.
MS apologists cannot help themselves Zyph --
They believe what they want. Twist ANY story into what they want. Vote Lame, for the heck of it, vote offensive if you wrote a friggin' thesis telling them how whoppin' great they are -- it doesn't matter. I stopped negotiating quite a while ago. And, It just feels right.
You know the truth. You've heard my mantra. You know the numbers. MS loyalists are frustrated and scared -- of the lil 'ol PS3 and all of the fanfare. I don't think I'll live to see the day that MS outdoes SNE in game console sales nor game production, but we'll have to wait a long time from now for the final numbers to come in on that one. Hatred breeds hatred and it's self evident in the posts. All I know is that if I had my next-gen system already -- I wouldn't be on this site day and nite hunting down everything MS, I'd happily be on my PS3 gaming away late into the morning. Ahhhh.
As far as the actual interview -- it's all fluff. It states nothing new and just smacks of "KK" doin' his usual "KK-speak" with the obligatory PS3 propoganda. What else is he gonna say?
-- "yeah we really f'd up by not reserving the blu laser diodes in globs way before launch, I wish we had rumble and could launch in Europe on 1117 -- and, oh btw Killzone 2 will be out before Christmas this year." --
Uh Yeah, right... And Peter Moore is waiting in line for one right now at the wal-mart in El Segundo.
So, really this is not news. PS3 will take just as long to get up to speed as the 360 -- that's exactly what he's saying, right. This could also be seen as a decoy, in the art of war. Because IF it doesn't take as long and the games start to come along better -- quicker, then it could be a great kickoff year for SNE. And if the curve for dev's is overcome quicker than anticipated, P3 may surprise MS and casual gamers on its quick progression. Make no doubt about it. People want this system and as we've seen they're willing to pay the price ( btw the mayhem is going to be EPIC in the U.S. on launch -- stirring even more curiosity). The question is, can SNE deliver on the dazzle and get this thing up to PS2 "Greatest Hit" status faster than anticipated with all of the games to go with it, to save the company bottom line for the next 5 years? So until one of these two magical times comes to pass, the "Flame" (as bladestar calls it) won't stop. That my friends is the Real Deal.
P.S. -- C'mon Friends of Sony (old & new) and Gamers all, Please give me my bubbles back!!!
Yep. It is what it is my friend. MUhahahaha
Stop trying to sugar coat this and be the sworn defender of sony. Bladestar is spot on.
LEVY: You believe that when game developers learn the system, PS3 games will be superior. When will we see the difference?
Obviously the question is in reference to the 360. Had the question been "As time goes on will ps3 games continue to get better?" Then yes it would be specifically in reference to the inital batch of ps3 titles but the question that was asked was in reference to the competition specifically the 360 and bladestars point is valid in that it seems sony will continually say bs as 360 games stay ahead of the curve of ps3 games for it is what they have been doing for a while now.
Hell COD2 looks about as good as resistance and that game was supposedly as sony fanboys like to say "rushed" and that title came out a year ago and that title was 60fps as opposed to resistance being 30fps and lets not even talk about COD3.
Buy this time next year PS3 owners will be claiming graphics no longer matter just like they did with the PS2. Just look at how much they have had to stop yelling about since the 360 launched in 2005. They are getting owned and love it I personally have stopped caring. I'm waiting for the PS3 to give me a reason to buy it. The only one I can think of is the PS3 itself but that is not enough. I need games to make the purchase worth it.
We will not see the difference that Ken is pushing here...ever.
Remeber all of the things that PS2/3 fan boys said over the past year that they say make the 360 lame, none of what they are saying holds any weight, dose it? And then think about what dose not have to be said about the PS3 that make it lame.
Now do you feel the peace?
Now back to gears of war. PEACE
Q: Are you worried about the high cost of PS3—$500 and $600?
A: I don't think so, because the PS2 was originally $299 in the United States. But the hard-disk drive was another $200. So the total price was almost equal to PS3's initial pricing.
He neglected to mention that The PS2/HDD was never bundled together, or the fact that it was a huge failure for the PS2. Newsweek really asks the tough questions, dont they? Maybe thats why Ken took their phone call instead of a respectable "Gaming" publisher.
it wasn't put in as standard, and didn't even have a bundle option. On top of that, it was $120.
Yah! that's because a large part of PS2's fanbase were Walmart budget shopers $600 is alot of money if people didn't want to spend $120 bucks on a PS2 that they bought for $150-$200.
$200 dollars is what your buddy Ken quoted, not me....read the interview. Or, are you trying to Accuse $ony of Lying?!
Please say it ain't so DJ.
this is a bunch of BS
Are you worried about the high cost?
"I don't think so, because the PS2 was originally $299 in the United States. But the hard-disk drive was another $200. So the total price was almost equal to PS3's initial pricing."
600 bucks is still 600 bucks. And if you don't have a HDTV getting a PS3 is near pointless. The same goes for the 360, but there you aren't paying 200 more for a HD drive that you couldn't use.
It's like this, people in the past have used this analogy so I'll expand. If the PS3 was a 100,000 dollar ferrari, Sony's selling it to you for 70,000, an amazing deal right. But when you go around to every household telling them about this amazing deal, who's gonna be able to afford it and who has the HDTV. Sony's still breaking their back for the consumer, but the consumer still can't afford it and will end up waiting until it takes a big price drop.
Same goes for the 360, 400 bucks is too expensive for the average gamer. So after christmas they'll drop the price. And no they won't tell you when it'll be, they'll deny it at all costs because it would kill 360 sales before the drop.
But anyways Sony will still have their die hard fans, it's just gonna kill their sales mid 2007-2008 when they're trying to sell their console to normal consumers.
Why did people yet again bring up the 360 in an article entirely about the Ps3.
Not one time in this entire article did he mention M$, or the 360. Get a life and go play your one good game!
LEVY: You believe that when game developers learn the system, PS3 games will be superior. When will we see the difference? . Captain! CAAVVVEEEE!!!!! MAANNN!!!!!.
these comments above suggest how much some of the people on this site are fanboys.not ONCE did he mention 360 just like zypher said.he mentioned that games at launch do show some of the potential of the system.and he probally believes the system he helped build is better at not just graphics,but doing other things at the same time.
how many games run at 1080p at 60fps on 360?
how many games have deformation?
how many games have 40 player online?
how many games have motion control?
how many racing games on 360 have more than six cars on the road?
how many games have physics built into the combat like heavenly sword?
how many games are supported by BC compared to 360?
how much media is supported out of the box(cd,dvd,bluray,etc)on 360 compared to ps3?
how much content can 360 offer online for download compared to sony and their ENTIRE backcatalog of movies,music and games?
how many games are supporting the camera compared to ps3?
how many games are ported to ps3 from 360 compared to games ported from ps3 to 360?
i could keep going,but why bother.we know 360 is a good machine.but how can some of you not see that a new system coming out 1 year later won't have some things that outdo 360(i said some things)just like xbox had over ps2?microsoft has great support for online,but most won't ever play online.same with ps3.only the hardcore that has a need to compete with other people will be online playing.but offering music and movies and games and other services through ps3 has the potential to bring more people online through web browsing,shopping,then online gaming than 360.why does the resent survey from microsoft ask about web browsing?because ps3 offers something the 360 lacks.same with wii with wii connect.wake up people.
"but most won't ever play online"
it's past 60% on XBL, also that numbers been increasing since 50% at launch.
LEVY: You believe that when game developers learn the system, PS3 games will be superior. When will we see the difference?. Captain! CAAVVVEEEE!!!!! MAANNN!!!!!. Superior to what? everbody knows launch tittles wont look as good as tittle deved years down the road, So you're telling me a pro was asking about something that was common sense or was he talking about PS3's competition. lol IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE JUST JUSTIFYING YOUR PURCHASE IN YOUR RAMBLINGS/RANTS.
is offering more than 1 publishers' movies as well as multiple tv series through xbox live in standard and high def. you get blu-ray out of the box as far as media, not much else over 360. i bought the 360 to play 360 games, not xbox games. i still have an xbox for that. the whole, maybe $40 you get to trade in your ps2 or xbox is hardly worth it. how many games run at 60fps and 1080p on the ps3? how many support the camera for ps3? i suppose every 360 game is released and there will never be any new things to come. we haven't seen all either of these systems can do. we haven't heard all of the things these companies plan to do with these systems. sony fans are really hyped about 40 players online like it's the 1st game to ever do it. blackhawk down on xbox supported 50. big deal. both systems will offer great things to different people. everyone doesn't have the same tastes. both systems will have games that are complete crap. regardless of which platform anyone prefers, we still have the same devs who will keep making the same crap, as long as WE keep buying it.
how many games run at 1080p at 60fps on 360? None so far, but only game that really takes advantage of it for PS3 is RR7. Tennis and Bball don't tax a system.
how many games have deformation? Dunno (seriously)
how many games have 40 player online? Huxley.. nuff said.
how many games have motion control? How many PS3 games support rumble?
how many racing games on 360 have more than six cars on the road? Son loves all the racing games so far.. all that matters.. btw.. he's really good at them
how many games have physics built into the combat like heavenly sword? everything has physics.. you sure heavenly sword's as good as you think?
how many games are supported by BC compared to 360? Sorry.. dunno what BC is
how much media is supported out of the box(cd,dvd,bluray,etc)on 360 compared to ps3? I want to play games. If I wanted a Media Center, then xbox (1st one) blows them all away.
how much content can 360 offer online for download compared to sony and their ENTIRE backcatalog of movies,music and games? Don't care to download movies and music. I'd rather buy a DVD or CD. Games? Thought this was about nextgen.. I still have a PS1, PS2, and Xbox to play if I wanted.
how many games are supporting the camera compared to ps3? Is there already one for PS3? So as it stands now, 360 has more :)
how many games are ported to ps3 from 360 compared to games ported from ps3 to 360? Last I've seen.. most sony fans have been complaining that multiplatform games don't look so nice or are the same as 360 cause they were "ported" from xbox360. I have yet to really hear of a great looking PS3 game that looks crappy on a 360. BBALL and Tennis don't count again :)
played pc,ps2,and xbox online are the same people on xbox live.a few newcomers,but not a lot.microsoft made every game online for 360.but they won't release the numbers of who is playing xbox online and who is playing 360 online.if you know the numbers paul,put up a link.people who play sports(racing is a sport) and combat are the most people playing.maybe mmos.but that's it.kids can't play unless thier parents let them with the controller.grandparents aren't playing.most women aren't playing.most will not be online for awhile.dreamcast had two million people playing online before it went.microsoft's is not that much bigger.most will not play online.but they will download and shop.maybe i forgot to put in the words "CASUAL GAMERS".SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR PURCHASE POWER OF GREEN.i dare any of you to answer any of those questions as truthfully as you can that i posted above.
Playing demo's buying game content and renting/ buying or getting free SD and HD content vs gamers just playing multi player, i fail to see exactly what you're saying, i'll try to be more civil sorry about the smart ass comments.
A game with 40 players is good for PS3 but gamers will be playing games with thousands of people traveling from single player to multi player worlds in one huge univers bringing things they get from multi player to single player worlds and vise versa the 40 player will be cool i guess? if you like the boxed-Prey style frenzzies, the next-gen online revolution is on it's way so 40 players isn't going to be a big deal in a few months.
Free roamoing back and forth from single player and multi player in one huge world with PC gamers plus doing tons of other things besides fighting is Next-gen at it's best.
You should read up on Huxely and ShadowRun it will make you rethink about boasting about 40 players.
So 4 million in october out of 6-7 million now is the majority.
haha and the rest of your post, what the balls are you talking about. Your making less sense than gametime. What is your question?? Who are casual gamers or something like that?? I find it funny how you try to spin my "i dare you" question like I've gave gametime in the past. Could you be him...possible, gametime's reputation is pathetic on this website.
Anyways, I justified buying a 360 over a PS3 because of the games, online, and other aspects. I bought this before PS3 price was announced chief.
and is this the answer you wanted, Casual gamers don't buy 400-600 dollar consoles
but it would have been nice to play nfl 2k5 on 360.well truthfully 1 game i got works on 360.buffy.yeah buffy.collective makes cool combat.but toca 3,spiderman 2,my outruns,bloodrayne 2,and some of the latest games don't work.so that still pisses me off.as i said earlier,the 360 is a good machine.but i love single player action.my brother and i used to love playing ikari warriors,contra and all the multiplayer games with each other a long time ago.now he play rpgs(he's older),then action.i got tired of multiplayer in the arcade.if i lost,i would say good job man,you got me.(sportsmanship)if i kept winning,it was one more game,one more game.it got boring sometimes.still fun,but i didn't need to keep playing to try and beat someone.so i don't hate online.if people are having fun,then that's great.but nothing online has combat like soul calibur,no flying game has speed like top gun,no fighting game looks like fist of legend with jet li(good movie),no online game has people exploring new worlds in space like star trek or sg1.no racing game so far does realtime car damage that effects your performance like toca and colin(great racing games),no sports game has all people on fields or courts being real players(i think nba 2k7 does-not sure.)if they made a new contra online(more like contra 3 but updated,i might reconsider.i've seen so many games since pong that i need more than graphics.i want to see where physics,deformation,rain effects or just weather(not one game i know has wind being represented),simulations of creating like spore and destruction like blowing something up take games into the future.not just graphics.i thought all shooting games would be the same.then devil may cry and psi-ops(especially this game)showed up.i just want to see something new.not just upgrades on ps3 and 360.nintendo shows promise with wii and the controller.but the system won't be acurately duplicating the things i mentioned above.ps3 shows some potential in some games from what i seen so far.but it still has a way to go.so,you won't ever see me say 360 sucks,because it doesn't.but i want games to do what i mentioned above on it.never mind all the extra fluff for the casual gamers.yeah i get long winded.maybe i can put it in a game.lol!
nfl2k5 online? it's my favorite football game other than the nes version of tecmo bowl. 2k7 would be sick on the 360. damn ea!!! my gamertag for my regular xbox is OUgroundGAME if you wanna get beat by the NY Football Giants.
SeaHawks! BABY! they just beat the Rams 24 to 22.
that there is action replay to get updated rosters for 2k5/7. it's a pain to redo them all manually. GIANTS in the superbowl. tonight, they beat da bears. i'd like to see 2k give boxing a try even though fight night is ea's best sports effort on the 360.
that,s why im not buying a ps3 i can,t stand this bloke.
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