NowGamer: "Godus developer Peter Molyneux says that his game could come to PS Vita or Steam Box but that PS4, Xbox One and the 'clumsy' Wii U may not work."
Got to agree with him on this. The second screen is a forced gimmick and while I have noted some developers utilizing it well, it really is only beneficial to a very small %. Also the hardware is really below par when sized up to the other consoles. Its a ninento console for nintendo games, nothing more and nothing less.
And there is nothing wrong with a Nintendo console for Nintendo games. In this day and age, owning 2 consoles is becoming more and more commonplace. I have a PS4 for the heavy hitters that Sony brings along with any 3rd party games that don't grace the Wii U (so basically most of them, :P) and I own a Wii U for all the 1st party Nintendo games and the odd 3rd party game that I would prefer to play on the Wii U. Having the 2nd screen isn't a gimmick. If you had a PS4 with remote play you would understand the benefit of the Wii U gamepad. Being a husband and father, getting command of the TV can be tough at times, so the Off Screen play makes it that much easier for me to play my games. I have come really close to purchasing a Vita simply for the fact of using the Remote Play functionality. Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean that it isn't appealing to other people. And that can included non-Nintendo gamers too.
I'm in the same boat - PS4 and Wii U are what I've gone with this gen.
But I used to love nintendo but I don't particularly want a console that is on par with the xbox 360 in terms of power in this day and age. If nintendo cut the cord on Wii U and bring out a powerful machine, I'd buy it without a second thought. But unfortunately they're too unresponsive. They're busy making a smash bros game (which always takes them years cos it's so good) for a console that is dying!
@die_fiend - the Wii U is more powerful than the 360 or PS3. Maybe not by a lot, but it's GPU can run laps around what the 360 and PS3 can put out. It's only because most developers are too lazy to optimize their game for the Wii U. The 360 and PS3 were very CPU oriented, whereas the Wii U is GPU oriented (much like the PS4 and XB1). So you can't just dump 360 code to the Wii U and expect it to perform well, the CPU cores aren't as fast clock speed wise, so more calculations need to be offset to the GPGPU which can handle extra calculations to free up the load on the CPU's. I love how games like TLOU and GTA V were amazing games and they only came out like 6 months ago. Suddenly now those games aren't good enough anymore. The Wii U can easily do games like GTA V and TLOU and better, so what is so wrong with that as a secondary console? Do you need 4K resolution for all your games?
The WiiU is not clumsy. It actually is pretty fast and very manageable.'Course people that don't own it wouldn't know, and that is a marketing problem. The gamepad is however a gamepad and not a tablet touchscreen so it is not ment for the type of games the gentleman from the article makes. That's the same marketing problem. People still slash the WiiU for not understanding what it is.
@Neonridr I agree with you. I am a WiiU and Xbox One owner and I often use the WiiU pad for playing games on sat after noon when soccer Saturday is on TV or use the snap tv on the xbox one so I can keep up to day on all the scores or if something like boxing is on and im waiting for the main fight we will use snap or Wiiu game pad to kill time but still have the under cards on. I have been very impressed with the Wiiu and most of the games I own for it are Nintendo IP's. Pikmin 3, Windwaker, Mario 3D world DK, Wii Party U and more have been a joy to play.
The problem I have is Nintendo used 3rd party games as a big selling point for the Wi U before the launch- They sold that aspect very hard, then after Dec 2012, they did nothing to save 3rd party support- the Wi U will probable go down as having the least 3rd party support of any Nintendo console by the end of its lifespan even though Iwata and Co said the opposite- but I have learned neither of them nor any Nintendo exec speaking publicly can be trusted
"But unfortunately they're too unresponsive." I don't think you understand how business works, mate.
EA: Peter Molyneux: Nintendo is a great platform Makes no games for it. Clumsy Comments.
I was super jacked about the prospect of that 2nd screen but I find that I use it more for games when my wife is watching TV. So then I thought it might be nice to be able to play those games remotely on the screen in other rooms of the house but the range is so crappy I can't even take it into my bedroom which is DIRECTLY behind my living room.
That sucks. I can take mine down a whole floor and to the opposite end of the house and it works. I can play it in the bathroom too, bonus. Shame that you can't get that far away though. Maybe your walls are too dense which kills the signal. It's nice that the Vita uses WiFi to connect to the PS4 and it will be interesting to see if Nintendo explores that in the future with a possible Gamepad+ or something. Only problem with using the WiFi is latency becomes an issue.
@Neon - HAHAH. The bathroom is the first place I tried to get the gaming done. =P such a guy thing eh? hahaha
of course the only crutch to bringing the gamepad with you to the bathroom is you forget why you were there in the first place and then before you know it you've been sitting on the toilet for 30 mins, lol.
Time to rip down your walls, problem solved!
In a perfect world. SONY make the hardware/ first party MS make the OS/third party Ninty supply just their own games.
OS and 3rd party ? No thanks
That's BS, considering the growing offerings from indies and the small yet decent amount of properly done third party exclusives. If all you're looking at is Nintendo games on a Nintendo system, then these days, that's a sign that you're doing it wrong. There's plenty on offer for the system, and the game pad is a controller that is being under-utilized, but is by no means a useless gimmick. That's hater talk.
I agree Everyone that says the gamepad is gimmick has never use it in their own home. IMO the gamepad is awesome for RPGs. I'm playing Earthbound on it now.
Ive never owned Nintendo console, yet somehow I would feel insulted by what Molyneux said.
Molyneux is not a very good game developer. He's just bitter the Gamepad is better than all his games combined!
Why? It's the truth it just wasn't ready, at launch they forced a 5GB update everything was slow and clumsy Nintendo tried to get a head start but backfired when they didn't see the results they wanted ;)
I agree, Just like you get a Sony console for 3rd party only as they just can't make good quality first party games that last the test of time, Sony is always left behind when it comes to software.
But their exclusives are some of the best though.
Better than the "look, we have more specs" gimmick Sony has been constanstly going with. At least Nintendo is original.
LOL second screen has the potential to be extremely beneficial as even MS has introduced smart glass and Sony the PS4 and Vita mix. Hell many people on PC have more than 1 monitor. Was the hardware put into the console too poor, yes. It will be another gamecube but that isn't a bad thing. Molyneux shouuld focus on making a good game not rehashed garbage.
Except its not. its more powerful than a 360 and ps3 ad thats already been proven many times, only ignorant people will say otherwise. the graphics that nintendo accomplishes on their first party games are astonishing and at 60 fps something 360 and ps3 would not be able to do at all.
Peter Molyneux is possibly the most full-of-crap developer in the industry today. He showed promise many years ago, but his prime is long gone and all that remains is a sad shadow of the former man. Fable 3 was the final straw; quite why anyone would believe anything this guy says - or respect his opinion, on this or anything else - is beyond me.
You heard of Cliffy B?
At least Cliffy B delivers
Molyneux did far more than showing promise . And his delivery rates is 10x above Cliffy . Molyneux created a genre of gaming . Very few can claim that he was just past his prime and lost himself after Black and White . And even then , one can't pretend he delivered bad games , some of us just expected better . Meanwhile , while obviously a legend now too , i still remember Unreal Tournament 3 , and particularly its horrible and ill conceived sp campaign , trying to reciprocate Gears of war's success . Or the mediocre gears 2 mp (at first) .
Delivers what? GOW 2 was a car crash multiplayer-wise. Fable 2 came out at the same time and was a quality game. You ever heard of Populous? Molyneux made some of gaming's greatest titles back in the day. Cliffy B made Gears of War lol. About obese marines with chainsaw guns. The only thing he 'delivered' is a distinct lack of charm
people can disagree all they want . Molyneux , brought Populous , PowermOnger , Magic Carpet , Theme Park , Dungeon keeper , Black and White to the pantheon of gaming . And of course Fable If you guys are too young to remember or know those , it's another matter Cliffy B is known for jazz jackrabbit , Unreal and Gears of war . All pretty good if not excellent games , but mostly just emblematic ips of their generations .
You heard of David Cage?
I actually felt a little embarrased for the Fable crew the first time I saw Fable 3 was being released on PC.
If by that he means there are not many games that really show off the point of the GamePad, I can agree. That being said, it's not a terrible idea. Once it gets that one game that makes people say "Aha!", it'll be flying off shelves.
Molyneux is a clumsy, awkward developer. I think he's just a bit upset that even the Wii U, in its glorious blaze of failure it's enduring right now, still has ten times more good games than he's ever been able to squeeze out of that fat head of his.
This guy is reaching hard on his statement, because while I do agree that Nintendo is doing a very poor job of showcasing what makes the controller so unique (asymetrical gameplay). The gamepad is more comfortable and useable in games such as RPG's, Adventure and Racing games than it seems that it might be, being so large of a controller. And I wish we could take a break with trashing the WiiU for not being at the same level hardware wise as PS4 and XbOne. Because both of those systems aren't blazing out every next-gen game with amazing resolutions and framerates at the moment.
Is he upset because nobody is curious about the Cube anymore?
Yes, It could have done with the tablet controller as an optional extra , but clumsy it is not , it is a joy to play to me and my daughter. Stop bashing the Wii U , it is actually quite good. I also thought it was a terrible console till I gave it a chance ( and got it for a super cheap price)
I refuse to play a Lego game on any other console, having two screens for the CO-OP is priceless, my kids absolutely loves it.
Peter Molyneux was always on MS's payroll. Lost his master. A true ronin of game developers.
I know what your saying but Peter Molyneux is not cool enough to be considered a Ronin not by a long shot. The guy is such a pretentious shamelessly self promoting lying asshat who's just far to into himself. Personally my least favorite person in the whole gaming industry.
Every time this guy speaks, it's about nonsense. He talks a good game but never backs it up. He needs to focus on getting Fable out of the sh***er.
He doesnt work at lionhead anymore, so he wont be working on the next fable
NOWgamer is not only trolling Nintendo, they are asking an irrelevant person to now.
He is a great developer, I appreciate him but....calling clumsy a console is not very wise.
Your clumsy got really comment at the end there.
Althought the pad might feel forced it does offer some gameplay that is enjoyable, which is the point. The current WiiU software lineup is unbeatable. Trpical Freez is fun as hell, the same for Wind Waker and 3D World. I own a WiiU and to be honest I never regretted my purchase. It's fun to have around during those PS4 software droughts. And what's great is you don't need to use the touch pad or the sensor bar or the Wiimote for the more core traditional games, you can simply use the pro controller.
I'm using the Pro controller for Tropical Freeze, but the gamepad is just as good for that game. My wife needs to learn to not turn off the gamepad when I'm usig the Pro controller. The gamepad is in the bedroom on the charger and I'm playing in the living room. Then the game turns off, I'm like what happened, than I realize my wife turn the gamepad off because she thought I left it on. This has happenned twice. I guess it's a good thing the Wii U isn't made for online FPS.
lol, you need to smack that bbbbbbb****** the next time she does that. Be like.. SMACK!!!! "Woman! don't ever interfere with a man on his Nintendo" I am joking, don't actually do that. Instead just walk in the room and ask her "if she is stupid or something."
So true just want to play bay 2 then its gone
Would you like to sell it to me jay? Perhaps trade for a year of PSN? or PS Now? ..or Music Unlimited. .
I honestly wouldn't mind a bit that Molyneux chips in with his half-baked opinion now and again if he had actually made games which made the world sit up and take notice, thing is...he doesn't! Imagine Molyneux working for a studio such as EAD Tokyo, he would be fired within a week.
The guy has made games that have made the world sit up and take note, thats one thing you cannot say this guy has not done. You should take the time to read up about someone before jumping on the bandwagon and insulting them.
I'm sorry, you are mixing me up with the majority of trolls on the internet. Not only do I not need to read up on him - something I have actually done (briefly), I have played the majority of his games first-hand, most of them at launch. Yes, his name is linked with some games which changed things up a bit but that's it, he is mostly PR and propaganda. The guy himself is nothing compared to the hard working individuals around the clock getting these type of games actually running on the ground level.
After that I know you are a troll, sad that you would rubbish a mans past great work in this industry. Most developers would be happy if they could create a fraction of what this guy has done.
This guy as is always saying dumb shit excuse my language but the wiiu gamepad is great,remote play is great too. Using each second screen feature on console i would rate them like from this. sony vita is first because well it's a vita that can play it's own games and it does away from the house. the wiiu comes second only because the reach is horrible but the controller is one of the best made nintendo problem is weak hardware. and 3rd is the x1,while it's cool to snap t.v and other apps the screen is too small and smartglass doesn't play any games because well there's no buttons.
This guy lol hey peter what's in the box or cube or whatever you called it. But serious can anyone tell me what was the last great console game he made? On the Wii U being clumsy I really enjoy my system day 1 it was touch and go but I have supported companies by putting my dollars in the best place. Here is my Wii U contigency plan. 1.Had a ball with Nintendo Land 2.Bought 3d world 3. Downloaded a crap load of indie games 4. Buying Pikmin, Lego city, Deus Ex, pretty soon. 5. Got Darksiders, Mass Effect used at about $15 bucks 6. Getting Mario 8, Bayo, Smash, Sonic Boom, Child of light and Maybe Watchdogs dependent on if it's actually good 7. Looking forward to more Nintendo surprises at E3 as I believe that they will win it this year. Everyone has reasons to or not to support a Company For me and my Wii U it's never been about about the power as time proved with the PS3 and Xbox 360 and Wii there were games that were created with less power that did more than 8 gen games. People will dog the Wii U for not being all power but that's Ok with me. There are studios closing people losing jobs every day in the games industry because a company has a game of a 90 million dollar budget and makes not even half of that back because the game is all graphics and no substance. Then people complain about droughts support the Indie movement, There are great Wii titles out there as well. So in the end this developer is a just speaking out of his ass and is contributing to the already ongoing issue with bad attitude gamers.
Speaking of supporting good games and ignoring the bad attitude of gamers today; grab yourself a copy of The Wonderful 101, it's worth its weight in gold. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Trust me I got that one to. I can't wait for my second ever Platinum game.
Great statements friend. I suggest Pikmin3 first.
Yup, whatever Peter, carry on bashing a console that is already getting trashed by almost every section of the games media... Yup, welcome to the fricken party, you're like 1 year late to this bandwagon dude pffft!
He needs to elaborate on what he says. What about the Wii U makes it in his opinion clunky or awkward? He says his new game is all about touching which only makes it viable for phones and tablets - and laptops because they have a mouse! Well, the Wii U has a touchpad and a mouse (Wiimote)!! He then somewhat concedes the Wii U is the most eligible of the consoles to receive the port "with some tweeking". But then goes on to say the SteamBox would be interesting with its touch based controller; but doesn't the PS4 controller have a touchpad which could basically do the same thing? I don't know what to take from this. The site basically chose to highlight the Wii U part for the title to maximise click-bait when it's not even the main driving feature of the interview. We'll all used to the shoddy standards of sleazy games journalism by now though. But is it a bad interview. Is it a poorly edited interview. Or is Peter Molyneux really the deluded, irrelevant, pompous tool he seems to come across as. One thing I know for sure, he's been talking a lot about hardware this and hardware that recently. It's a bad workman who always blames his tools.
Sorry, who is this guy? Never heard of him.
Wasnt this guy a developer for microsoft? How come he is making handheld games? I remember him because he was always annoying when he would try to bash playstation 3
Had to Google him. He made games most people never heard of and worked for EA and MS after mergers. He made the Fable franchise, and apparently thinks Steam is a box with a touch screen controller. Meanwhile, in another article he calls one of his Fable games a train wreck. Pure genius.
Peter Molyneux, the maker of clumsy and awkward games has no place describing anything with that label. His games were interesting in a time when processing power massively limited what was possible in game design, he filled a niche with some interesting ideas. But that time is long gone, the man is not only completely out of touch with game design, he is also completely out of touch with the gaming medium. It's sad that the gaming press give him so much space to spout his drivel. Nobody thinks as highly of this man as he thinks of himself.
The hardware is not good enough is all I keep reading. What do you people want a real fat plumber on your screen? Nintendo games are cartoon-like so I dont see why it needs such high end specs, because from what I have seen the Nintendo games look fantastic. I guess some people wish it was a platform to play the next big 3rd party titles on, but Nintendo consoles are usually designed for Nintendo games, whether that is a bad thing is up to the consumer. I just think a Nintendo console would never be sold for $500 (if it had xbone/ps4 specs) and the system probably would have done even worse over the past year. Why? Probably due to the Nintendo games which do not try to be graphical powerhouses and how about that great advertising, lol. It is like, "I am supposed to pay $500 to play similar Nintendo games at a higher resolution", no thanks. Even if multiplats happened you still have the online service which has nothing on PSN/Live that was part of this $500 purchase (I guess at least it is free). I wish this thing would sell because IMO it is a great little machine that would make one hell of a secondary machine at a fair price. Though people will always say "I dont want the gamepad", oh well because everyone who has one seems to love it for its few good in game uses as well as the portability/remote play. The remote play alone can warrant the extra cost for a lot of people, such as families with children and those who like to have entertainment in the restroom, lol. It appears to be a great addition to the purchase. As for Molyneux I dont care about what he says, sure he created a genre but the fact is he made Fable 3 which was a joke and just trash
shocked the ms lackey hating on the competitor