Submitted by ironfist92 524d ago | article

Pitchford: I'm not going to f*** around with you like Valve

President of Gearbox Software Randy Pitchford has offered a forthright summary on the studios latest projects, and made it clear that for now Borderlands 3 isn't among them.

"I'm not going to f*** around with you like Valve does with Half-Life 3," he told Polygon. (Borderlands 2, Borderlands 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3, Half Life 3, PC, PS Vita, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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RedSoakedSponge  +   524d ago | Well said
well atleast valve dont release shit games like Duke Nukem and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
USMC_POLICE  +   524d ago
Ouch so true. Aliens looked amazing and then it came out and I wanted to cry.
cleft5  +   523d ago
After how they milked the Borderlands 2 game and then released a ton of the best content made by them outside of the Season Pass, Pitchford would do well to be careful what he says. Quite frankly, Gearbox isn't anywhere near Valve's level so him commenting on Valve in any way is just absurd.
thorstein  +   523d ago
Does he have evidence for a claim about Half Life 3? Where does anyone from Valve hint at or even mention HL3?
AgentSmithPS4  +   523d ago
He thinks his pitch don't stink!
SolidGear3  +   524d ago
I enjoyed both. DNF ran me $60 but Aliens I bought used. Enjoyed DNF a bit more tgough.
Black-Helghast  +   524d ago
I don't see how anyone would enjoy DNF... to each their own I guess o.e
Edvin1984  +   523d ago
I bought DNF on a steam sale and it was funny stupid game. I wish they would make another one just make it with up to date tech.
Prime157  +   523d ago
I enjoyed duke nuke m forever, but as a $2.50 usd (gamestop) purchase LOL. Sorry, man.
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ShinMaster  +   524d ago | Well said
Nah, I don't think that's fair. Development of Aliens was poorly mismanaged and Duke Nukem Forever had been in development hell for over a decade and was worked on by like 3 other developers before Gearbox took over to finish it.

I give them props for their original works.
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Detoxx  +   524d ago | Well said

Gearbox made one of my favorite games, Borderlands.
RedSoakedSponge  +   524d ago
they didnt need to release those games in the state they were in. it was their job to make what was given to them into games that were worth playing. In my opinion (and most over people it seems) they failed tremendously.
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Lior  +   524d ago
then why release an utter mess in the first place
Baka-akaB  +   524d ago
Of course it's fair , their own personal input on those two specific games was crap . And let's not forget how much they lied about Aliens . Borderlands 1-2 dont absolve them

They are in no position to compare themselves to Valve , with far more iconic and important work , and no duds .
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ManFromNantucket   524d ago | Bad language | show
SuicidalTendencies  +   523d ago
People who rip on Aliens: Colonial Marines probably never even played the game. They're just sheep who follow what everyone else says about things. I am a huge Alien franchise fan and I enjoyed the game. Was it the best game I ever played? No. Was it as bad as everyone says. Not even close. There were bigger piles of crap released for full price before Aliens and I am sure there will be more after.
SilentNegotiator  +   523d ago
They chose to release DNF in the state it was in and it was 100% Gearbox's fault for Alien:CM's development (they shifted sources from it against contract and outsourced parts of it to developers willing to work for cheap).

Borderlands 1/2 did so well because they took a BUNCH of resources that belonged to other games to make them.

BTW, a user named ManFromNantucket marked for bad language...who could have seen that coming? lol
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Baka-akaB  +   523d ago
You ought to give up when the only and best defense you got for colonial marines is "you're a bunch of douche , and didnt play the game , there is far worse !!!" .

Please no one is even alluding it's one of worst games . It just is mediocre, average at best ... but essentially just nothing like shown to the press and public .

It deserves its fate , and sold well anyway .
SuicidalTendencies  +   523d ago

Are you kidding me? Every time gamers talk about Aliens: CM they act like it was the worse game ever released. It's ridiculous.
gillri  +   524d ago
...true,,,, but they still *** you around, no transparency whatsoever, they make games but photon torpedos!!
ksnm0  +   524d ago
lol :)
VENOMACR1227  +   523d ago
They need to start working on Borderland 3 for next-gen consoles and stop wasting their time with crap games. They are known for Borderlands, so make another Borderlands. Look at Epic, known for making awesome Gears of War games, went and made that giant turd Bulletstorm. Do what you do best. If your known for making awesome hamburgers, don't start making hot dogs.
SolidGear3  +   523d ago
Bulletstorm ruled.. and it was primarily developed by People Can Fly before Epic bought them..
webeblazing  +   523d ago
epic is know making way more thing than just gears
madpuppy  +   522d ago
Bulletstorm was actually really,really fun, The the only problem with that game is the foul language, and only because it didn't come off as funny as much as just plain vulgar.

well worth playing though...
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GentlemenRUs  +   523d ago
Don't forget outsourcing DLC.
UnHoly_One  +   523d ago
True, but 10 minutes of Borderlands contains more entertainment than the entirety of the Half Life series, so I think I'll let those two crap games slide.
Patrick_pk44  +   523d ago
Don't forget the part where they stole money from Sega to fund Borderlands 2, instead of Colonial Marines which turned out to be terrible.
tee_bag242  +   523d ago
Lol and at least valve don't bleed their franchises dry with paid DLC out the gates.
webeblazing  +   523d ago
they saying it like people are begging for borderlands. the game is good only if your playing coop
DoctorJones  +   523d ago
Randy Pitchford is jealous and just has an inferiority complex. Valve gave them a leg up in the industry years ago with Opposing Force and since then he's shown several times that his ego was greater than his ability.

I don't trust the guy at all, not since Duke and not since Aliens. Maybe you could say he wanted to bring out Duke because he was a 'fan', but he had an obligation to make sure the game lived up to the legacy.

It didn't, and neither did Aliens.

I appreciated Opposing Force and Brothers in Arms was a decent series until the third game. And Borderlands has proved to be a hit with people who are into it, but Randy Pitchford is someone I don't care about and have no respect for.

Valve do take a lot of time to bring their games out, that can't be denied, but they always deliver. Which is something that Randy Pitchford certainly can't boast about.
Monolith  +   523d ago
First comment on the this article that has made sense. Bubble well said.
H0RSE  +   523d ago
To be fair, Duke Nukem wasn't really their game. it started at 3DRealms (where Pitchford worked) and was passed around numerous times, before Gearbox picked it up and finally released it.
DoctorJones  +   523d ago
Yes that's true, but if you were given a turd in a box and told that was what you had to sell, would you still sell it?
H0RSE  +   523d ago
1) It wasn't know to be a "turnd in a box" until after it released and reviews came in, so how could they have known that?

2) One of the main reasons for Gearbox picking up DN, was because Pitchford was with 3dRealms back when it was originally being developed. After all these years and hardships the development process endured, when it became known that his company Gearbox could take over a game that Pitchford originally was putting work into, he was interested to finally make it available to the masses. You may have thought it was turd, but it was his turd and given the chance to finish it, he did.
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madpuppy  +   523d ago
It was bad enough releasing garbage games, but, showing something that wasn't even real in a preview and then getting mad at the backlash when the full game isn't even half as good in any manner makes him scum of the earth.

Randy Pitchfork indeed...
AgentSmithPS4  +   523d ago
lol, there are too many people f'n with us. Sadly Gabe seems to be "pulling a robert jordan" (and a george rr martin) with HL3, they get successful, they get unhealthy, they start getting slower and losing their drive, then they die or might die before finishing what they started :(.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   524d ago
This man should have left the industry after Aliens Colonial Marines. He still to this day denies he did anything wrong.
Detoxx  +   524d ago
This man made Borderlands and Borderlands 2, one of the best games and new IP last gen.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   524d ago
Oh well that's okay then :/
He conned people into buying his crappy game but he made borderlands so lets forgive him?
Gohadouken  +   524d ago
You could have a whole rational post , some people like that will just reply "but ... Borderlands" .

Borderlands being well done and good , highlight even further , how dishonest they were with Alien , and how little they did with Duke .
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Back-to-Back  +   523d ago
"This man made Borderlands and Borderlands 2"

Since when does 1 person make a AAA game like borderlands? He played a small part.
Detoxx  +   524d ago
Half-Life 3 confirmed?
alejandroelputo  +   523d ago
half life 3 confirmed!
nope111  +   524d ago
Borderlands 3 confirmed!
Relientk77  +   524d ago
That made me lol
hiredhelp  +   524d ago
I love new brother in arms
Detoxx  +   524d ago
You have to ask yourself.

Is it worth putting another FPS on the market? I mean, after Medal of Honor flopping I dont see a new BIA succeeding.
hiredhelp  +   523d ago
If done right it can be don right, Don't forget BIA Was also tactical squad based too controlling Ai was crucial.
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mii-gamer  +   524d ago
TBH, I don't like Pitchford. At least Valve delivers time and time again - can't say the same for gearbox (ahem Duke Nukem...Colonial Marines).
Mikefizzled  +   524d ago
But Valve delivers in Valve time. Which is like the opposite of Amazon prime.
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TheOmniGamer  +   524d ago
Considering this is the guy that mislead consumers into thinking Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens Colonial Marines were completely different products, hard to take this guy seriously.
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Einhert  +   524d ago

No seriously Randy that is a good one, now back to hiring other studios to make broken games for you.

This guy is a prick.

Borderlands is also overrated, try harder Randy.
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plaZeHD  +   524d ago
My sarcasm sense is tingling.
ManFromNantucket  +   524d ago
* Like I did when I lied to you all about Aliens: Colonial Marines over and over, then ignored the whole thing when the final product was absolutely nothing like I promised.

Oops. Pitchford is a slimy, lying worm who will say anything to ensure you buy his company's product, regardless of what state it is in. I will never buy another one of Gearbox's products, even if it does have the polish of BL2. Companies should be held accountable for their actions.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   524d ago
Looks like he's not going to be on Gabe's next Christmas card list lol
badz149  +   523d ago
what card? Santa Gabe will drop by and throws piles of red hot coals over his head while he is sleeping on Christmas eve!
windblowsagain  +   524d ago
I wish Valve would open up a portal and disappear into it. Would have to be a large one.
Jdoki  +   524d ago
Thanks Randy. Transparency and straight talking is always appreciated... Just a shame you were so obtuse when it came to Aliens Colonial Marines...

And taking a swipe at Valve is not cool.

I look forward to the Borderlands 3 announcement at next years E3!
jagstatboy  +   523d ago
I've never ever enjoyed a Valve game as much as I enjoyed (and still enjoy) playing Borderlands 1 and 2.
DoctorJones  +   523d ago
Borderlands isn't that great, it's a good co-op series, but it's not on the same scale of Valves games.
CoLD FiRE  +   523d ago
How dare you not praise Valve and our master Gaben?

The only Valve games I enjoyed were Counter Strike and the Portal series. I didn't enjoy any of the Half-life games or its expansions! Here I said it.. Don't kill me!
GentlemenRUs  +   523d ago
Pitchford... GO AWAY.
mcarsehat  +   523d ago
great, another irritating rivalry now formed. just what we need *sigh.*
mochachino  +   523d ago
It is BS that Valve stopped making Half-life games. If I knew they weren't going to continue with the story I never would have bought the episodes.
beatled  +   523d ago
randy, valve does more for the games industry in one day than you will ever do in your entire career

no one gives a Fu@% what you have to say
lemoncake  +   523d ago
new duke nukem game confirmed then.
Thatlalala  +   523d ago
I'll gladly wait ten plus years for a sequel, then play another warded down loot based with shitty mechanics, then disguise it with humor. Bad game for bad kids.
Trigger_War  +   523d ago
This guy is on point. Valve does jerk its fans around with Half Life 3. It has been a fucking decade.
urwifeminder  +   523d ago
One of the most boring series I have played.
KingKevo  +   523d ago
Well, then you might not be into shooters and have not played it with a firend/some firends, that's where it shines!!
urwifeminder  +   523d ago
Love shooters played the first game turned into show and tell for found weapons online.
KingKevo  +   523d ago
Not if you were playing with actual friends of yours that you played through the campaign with. Maybe that happens in MP with randoms, but not with you friends. And also, not really a lot of 'show and tell' if you just duplicate all the stuff with you friends and have a closed party.

I mean yeah, the game is SP also and is also designed for playing with randoms, but imho only playing with people you know and like makes this game amazing.

But whatever, you don't seem to care anyway and just love the bi***ing.
KingKevo  +   523d ago
I'm still curious to see what Furious Four will eventually turn out to be. It used to be a Brothers in Arms game, but it isn't anymore. It's it's own new IP and to me it does actually look like a Borderlands game set in WWII, so with a more realistic approach than Borderlands has.

From the 4 character classes and the trailer we've seen, it looks like a lot of the Borderlands formula is in that game, which makes it really interesting.

But what interesting stuff about BL was he referring to, probably not the PSV game or the Telltale game, maybe yet another DLC?
sonicsidewinder  +   523d ago
Valve put them on the map to begin with.
solar  +   523d ago
True story, GabeN lost the rights to the name Gearbox to Randy in a poker game.
Flames76  +   523d ago
I agree with him there not a fan of valve at all their just not up there with the big boys
solar  +   523d ago
Gearbox is one of the most overrated dev's out there. BL1 had so much potential yet crapped the bed. BL2, which i own but havent played yet is supposedly good. having 1 IP that is considered good doesnt make you a good dev. consistency makes you a good dev.
CoLD FiRE  +   523d ago
I played the first Borderlands for a few hours when it was released but got bored really quickly. Now I started Borderlands 2 this week and I'm loving it! I already logged 23 hours of playtime! :S It's way better than the first Borderlands.
solar  +   521d ago
ive been meaning to get into it Mr. CoLD FiRE.
MaxwellBuddha   523d ago | Bad language | show
ninjahunter  +   523d ago
Meanwhile borderlands 2 on vita is expected out next month and the only information they have released is a single screenshot.
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_FantasmA_  +   523d ago
I lost some respect for Gearbox when they spent Sega's money on Borderlands 2 instead of Colonial Marines. I love Aliens and its in my top 10 favorite movies, so I really wanted to like CM. Actually I haven't played it, and I don't want to because I don't want the good memories ruined. I haven't heard anyone say that CM was even remotely good, so I'm not missin much. Gearbox made the expansions for Half Life, so for them talk crap after the crappy games they have made in recent years, its really hypocritical.
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