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Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare Is “Always Online” On Xbox, Won’t Work Offline At All

GearNuke: "Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare is an upcoming Xbox and PC game, that is being released by EA. It will also feature microtransactions and it seems to focus on multiplayer. Unfortunately, for some strange reasons, the game completely lacks any sort of offline mode, requiring you to connect and sign in to Xbox Live in order to play any of the game modes."

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kingdip90883d ago

Why would a company do this after the backlash last year...

Oh right... EA.

bessy67883d ago

They've said all along that they're emulating ME3's multiplayer model, and in ME3 you couldn't play the multiplayer component offline (even if playing solo) since all of your unlocks were stored server side.

Abash883d ago

No longer buying, I don't and will never support these practices on consoles

cleft5883d ago

If you don't want this stuff to happen than don't buy this game or Titanfall. Both are always online. It's easy to justify Titanfall by saying there is no single player so it's not the same, but it is the exact same. If you buy those games then we will see more and more Always Online games. Vote with your dollars, when we did that for the Xbox One things changed, we can do it again for this stuff too.

Kingthrash360883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

i see a trend....a drm-ish trend...im further from buying a x1 now.
anyone who was against this practice and bought a x1 should speak up.

bessy67883d ago

Good, I'd like to see more online-only shooters. CoD and Battlefield would be much better if the devs didn't have to waste time and resources on single player.

Haki1112883d ago BadLanguageShow
Dumb_username883d ago

@cleft5: Why Titanfall? it's a multiplayer game and people play Multiplayer games online anyway.

redwin883d ago

So you are not buying destiny, or the two ubisoft games. Oh, and Titan fall. I guess you will not buy the next GTA. Mmmm, I guess it's just Japanese games for you then.

lolCHILLbro883d ago

@cleft5 seriously Titanfall? the game is one of the best multiplayer games i have played in awhile and it deserves to be online since its multiplayer and thats what the studio who made Titanfall respawn specializes in, this site is getting pathetic, are we seriously criticizing multiplayer games for being online? wow seriously wow, without internet some of the best games would not have existed like counter strike

Army_of_Darkness883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

And so the drm slowly sneaks it's way back into the spotlight....
Meanwhile, in a lonely bedroom an xbone gamer then questions microsoft with the cry of "why would you attempt this practice the second time MS?? why??"
MS then replies " Fooling you once is all I needed to do to get a purchase from you, so Shut up and Deal with it! No internet connection! No play!"

To be continued....

ZodTheRipper883d ago

Don't forget that the splitscreen coop is Xbox One exclusive, too ...EA is on some heavy shit right now.

Narutone66883d ago

So the "always online needed" is being implemented faster than I thought.

PoSTedUP883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

wow, so much self-entitled ignorance... ....WarHawk? socom confrontations? MAG? i get the whole MT thing but geez, its an online-only game. yeah ppl hate EA but just because Theyre doing it, dont pretend it hasnt been done b4 or that its not going to be done again... I WANT ANOTHER WARHAWK so lets see if you guys are consistent in what you preach when they announce it. same for destiny as stated above.

there is nothing wrong with online-only games. ppl are getting mixed up from what MS was trying to do: always online console even to play single player games. MT's on the other hand... yeah thats the crappy part about this.

oh and, **** EA.

aconnellan883d ago

@Abash Does that mean you're not buying The Division or Destiny?

OT: I think some people are calling out Microsoft without considering that this is only a timed exclusive, and it's also coming out on PlayStation...

This game is multiplayer only. Apparently the Xbox One version has some offline (as said in the article), but online multiplayer kinda requires online

xxBiG_BoSSxx883d ago

@postedup

I never played socom or MAG so I can't speak to those, but Warhawk had 4 player splitscreen that you could play offline. So, if they announce another Warhawk, and its the same, I'd be very happy. I think any multi player game with a local/couch mode should allow you to play offline. Otherwise why include the local play option?

abzdine883d ago

oh wow people going berserk on Plants vs Zombies...
whatever!!

Prime157883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

@postedup

The difference between many of the games you mentioned and garden warfare is that some had absolutely zero practicality offline, like mag (Or you were missing information like about warhawk).

Garden warfare is a game that has no reason to be online only... gearnuke even said, "it still has an offline splitscreen mode. The bad news is that this mode is exclusive to the Xbox One, and even if we want to play this mode, we won’t be able to do it offline as this video demonstrates."

It's an inconsistency in your thinking. If this game had been designed like mag, or an mmo, or even titanfall to an extent, then your point would have merit. However, the design of this game seems completely feasible for offline play, but not just feasible add it ACTUALLY HAS offline play that you required be online to play... wtf?

Please, wake up before it's too late.

alexkoepp882d ago

Since I got the internet in 1998, 16 years ago, I've never been without it. So I could care less if games are online only.

UnHoly_One882d ago (Edited 882d ago )

Man I totally understand getting all upset about this...

I don't know about you guys, but when my internet goes out, the first thing I think about playing is an online multiplayer game.

/s

Seriously guys??? Are we really complaining about this??

Also, this guys is obviously just out to stir up crap. He spends half the article talking about Microtransactions that don't exist, then in the "update" to the article where he corrects himself, he still says "There are no microtransactions available “at launch” but this doesn’t rule them out completely either."

Are we just making stuff up now and calling it news, I guess??

whitefang1988882d ago

@kingthrash
I bought a x1 on launch but I've been contemplating returning it since the new year. I made a few comments about how I feel if Microsoft can't get DRM on their console they will just put it on all their games. I've check and in the uk I can receive £300 cash so I think ive Made my mind up. I can't support there business practice. I'm happier with the ps4

PoSTedUP882d ago (Edited 882d ago )

yeah ok. but tell me how an online only game is bad and such a big deal? the concept its no different from destiny or socom confrontations, its the devs choice. you have to be online to play them... i think people are overreacting a little bit. plus its just a small tower defense game that has other iterations you can play off line.

FamilyGuy882d ago

Having a game that has an offline mode that requires you to be online in order to play it is the problem.

Online only games like MMOs are not a problem, being forced online for local play modes is.

How is this hard to understand?

I recall Black Ops 1 doing something similar where you set up a game to play against all bots, just to familiarize yourself with the map or practice, and it forced you to sign in just to do it. It annoyed people.

No one wants to be forced online for offline interactions. There's no point to it, no user benefit, it's just there to keep you subscribing to Live Gold.

Godz Kastro882d ago

Are you guys offline so often that this is make or break? I dont get it, I would never want a console offline. PS or X1....

No FanS Land882d ago

Not only this but I'm pretty sure it still requires XBL gold to play, so you do need to pay for a service to have access for this game. wow

FYI any MMO or F2P that is only multiplayer does NOT require PS+

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF882d ago

This is what EA wants... this is what they all want. This is why EA teamed up with MS to do always online console.

It's just the start. And I'm ready for it.

PoSTedUP882d ago (Edited 882d ago )

@familyguy- yeah well i dont think this one game, equivalent to a phone app, is going to be the reason ppl continue to pay for Gold.

but i guess it IS a message for the devs. they would be stupid to pull this off with a real game, looking at how everyone is responding with this small F2p game... you guys are prob. right in doing so.

UnholyLight882d ago

As horrible as this sounds, I think the reason that Publishers and Developers are sometimes pushing for Always Online or to be more connected is because it will eventually be the way of the future. Eventually we will always be persistently online we just lack the persuasiveness (and amount of those people) of people to push the infrastructure and get it into place to get us to that point.

My thoughts anyways. However I don't agree with the lack of DRM policy and how easily we can get screwed over by Publishers with this Always Online model **COUGH COUGH EA COUGH COUGH***. Microtransactions would be okay if they weren't absolutely outrageous such as the ones on World Of Tanks (on the Xbox 360) where you have to buy tons of credits to get "special tanks that you can't otherwise get"

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admiralvic883d ago

Oh come on, the title is practically flame bait.

"Unfortunately, for some strange reasons, the game completely lacks any sort of offline mode, requiring you to connect and sign in to Xbox Live in order to play any of the game modes."

It simply lacks an offline mode, similar to MAG (100% online), thus you have to be "always online" because there is only online. Not saying I agree with the practice, but the title makes it sound infinitely worse than it really is.

DarkLordMalik883d ago

Why can't we play offline with bots. To be honest, i was was expecting offline play with at least bots, even if the 360 version had no splitscreen co-op.

The reason for "online only" is not the multiplayer, it is the microtranscations stuffed in the game, which are stored on the server side instead of locally, as for most games.

MysticStrummer883d ago

"It simply lacks an offline mode, similar to MAG"

…except MAG has no solo mode…?

SilentNegotiator883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

Garden Ops can be played solo...why restrict it to online only?

Prime157883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

The article said, "it still has an offline splitscreen mode. The bad news is that this mode is exclusive to the Xbox One, and even if we want to play this mode, we won’t be able to do it offline as this video demonstrates."

IT STILL HAD AN OFFLINE MODE, but it forces you to be online to play offline...

Wtf don't you get about our quarrel with that? Does that make sense to you that there is an "offline" mode that REQUIRES you to be online?

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Software_Lover883d ago

It's an online game.

SWTOR is an online game.
WoW is an online game.
Planetside 2 is an online game.
Warframe is an online game.

This game is priced accordingly (34.99) for an online only game.

ABizzel1883d ago

That's what I though. If it's an online only game, what's the problem, what are you doing offline in a multiplayer only game, especially if there's no mode for playing with bots.

Fyflin883d ago

I wish more online-only games were priced like this. Looking at you Titanfall...

Prime157883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

Is it fully online like the games you mention? I'm quoting the article with,

"it still has an offline splitscreen mode. The bad news is that this mode is exclusive to the Xbox One, and even if we want to play this mode, we won’t be able to do it offline as this video demonstrates."

Even http://m.gamestop.com/catal... lists this game as, "Split-screen offline co-op"

So, please, online only?

stuna1883d ago

This is how they are going to bring a lot of things back! Nothing was taken out, it was just put to cryogenic sleep! In the hopes that one day it could be revived. TitanFall is another example, could this possibly be the true reason Sony didn't pick up the ip!? An always online multiplayer that amounts to nothing without the internet. And before someone try's to make the distinction between WarHawk and TitanFall, WarHawk could in fact be played offline with up to 4 players.

I think Microsoft told the truth for once, when they said certain things couldn't be turned off with the flip of a switch! It's just that they had already been caught up in the media backlash, they had to say something.

showtimefolks883d ago

EA/MS oh why is this not surprising

there is a reason EA said no more Online pass. and MS took everything back while said that they could look into future of a way to bring some of these back under different terms

EA wanted so badly to be in bed with MS because of how MS/Activision relation works and money

sooner or later xbox one will be a DRM machine with always online structure, don't trust MS after the way they treated us for past 3 years on xbox360. Focusing totally on casuals/kinect gamers while totally giving up on us the core gamers that made xbox360 successful in the 1st place

aragon883d ago

Is this coming to ps4? No always online on ps4 , ps3?

DreadGara883d ago

A Realm Reborn: SURPRISE MOTHER FU**ER.
You born today bro?

aragon883d ago

Lol being sarcastic, like the division, destiny and warframe is it that the ps4 versions will have exclusive online? Elder scrolls? Anymore? Ea is doing this not ms, fanboys grow up it's coming to Sony consoles in time, so when it does will there be a stupid article like this? Ps4 ps3 online required offline DRM is back ms is the devil

come_bom883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

^^^^

Stupid article. Stupid people that bashed game and company because of this.
* shakes head *

This is a MULTIPLAYER game. It's suppose to be online.

Let's bash all the multiplayer games and MMO's because they are online. /s

Stupidity of fanboys baffles me.

Haki1112883d ago

If it's multiplayer why does have a solo mode!!! Solo does not = multiplayer

CrowbaitBob882d ago

I'm not hating on the game, but I am disappointed that I won't be able to play some local matches without being connected.

It should be pretty obvious that the online requirement of this game has microtransactions written all over it. This isn't a gameplay decision whatsoever.

Gamer1982883d ago

So thats 2 Xbox console exclusives with no single player now coming out soon.. I'm starting to think the single player was removed from this and titanfall for quick release on Xbox One so it can get those exclusive numbers over Sony.. The real question is here though are people happy with this an are they willing to pay for an experience that lets be honest is normally associated with free games only (online only). I'm also thinking this has something to do with early DRM of the Xbox forcing online all the time however since that changed it was obviously too late in the development cycle to change the game.

jetlian882d ago

Yea and infamous still doesnt have coop must of been a rush to get an exclusive

k3rn3ll882d ago

The second half of ur comment contradicts the first... or do u really think its both?

Mr Pumblechook883d ago

It was the strength of the whole Microsoft & EA relationship that made them feel invincible enough to bring in always-on DRM.

There was a public outcry and here they both are pulling this shit again through the backdoor. Microsoft could have refused EA the right to publish it unless they fixed this - but they didn't.

k3rn3ll882d ago

Ms would not say that nor any company. Ur not going to tell the pubs of madden, battlefield, tiger woods, fightnight, and a dozen other multi million unit sellers to just go to ur competitor. Sony would and mostly will let them do what they want. Just like they have for the pas lt couple years. Along with ubisoft

andrewsqual882d ago

Why would somebody report something we knew 8 months ago???

mcarsehat882d ago

Nba 2k14 is always online too.

3-4-5882d ago

This game actually looks kind of fun too.

This game would ALSO be good offline with bots.

k3rn3ll882d ago

I think this is all EA. They were one of the main pushers for always online drm at the beginning of the gen.. along with Ubisoft. They will most likely start rolling this out on more games as the years go on. I don't think EAs policies bshould keep someone from buying a ms product. This is going to carry over all platforms wether we like it or not. I don't like it. But n for some to act like this is only going to affect xbox are to noid for their own good. Sony will follow suit. They aren't going to tell the largest sports developers to go on somewhere because then they would be left nba2k and the show. Then xbox would have everything and sony would lil. The publishers will make these decisions not the console manufacturer s

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Bigpappy883d ago

Lets see how well it does in sales. If there isn't a market for games like this and Titan Falls, it will show in sales numbers.

kingdip90883d ago

Titanfall is designed around online play it makes sense because it uses multiple human players.

Plants vs zombies is a 1 player puzzle/tower defense game. It being always online makes no sense outside of marketing stuff.

Bit of a difference there.

bessy67883d ago

You need to do some more research on this game apparently.

OmegaShen883d ago

You mean humans and bots right? Seeing Titanfall isn't just all human players.

An this Plants Vs Zombies isn't a puzzle/defense game, its pretty much COD reskin with Plants Vs Zombies skin.

admiralvic883d ago

"Plants vs zombies is a 1 player puzzle/tower defense game. It being always online makes no sense outside of marketing stuff. "

Yes, thats Plants vs Zombies. Garden Warfare is a third person shooter with tower defense elements (think Brutal Legend with guns) and was always stated to be an online multiplayer game. Like I mentioned in my other post, the "always online" simply referred to the fact that the game lacks offline, not some sort of limitation they vindictively added without a reason.

Software_Lover883d ago

This is not the same PvZ that you are thinking of. Please research first.

Prime157883d ago

http://m.gamestop.com/catal... lists this game as, "Split-screen offline co-op"

In addition to this article saying, "it still has an offline splitscreen mode. The bad news is that this mode is exclusive to the Xbox One, and even if we want to play this mode, we won’t be able to do it offline as this video demonstrates."

So you have to be online to play offline, right?

Besdy, omega, and admiral, I hope you can see the difference.

jetlian882d ago

This bf with plants and zombies

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WeAreLegion883d ago

I don't want sales to kill or keep the genre alive. Warhawk and MAG were phenomenal multi-player only titles. Titanfall is, too. It's ok to do multi-player only.

BitbyDeath883d ago

Agreed, I think some are just surprised this didn't have a single player option. EA have been known to cross that line before with games like Sim City.

Nothing wrong with Online only games... IMO
The Division being another example.

WeAreLegion883d ago

Oh yeah. I was surprised, too. It's a parody. Why wouldn't they make a campaign? Hugely missed opportunity for brilliant comedy.

Godmars290883d ago

Who's even going to give a damn about this game with Titanfall coming?

Much like the way no one has raised complaint that while both titles are online only, one is $20 cheaper than the other.

aragon883d ago

Imma buy it because it looks like fun and I been playing from App Store days

christocolus882d ago (Edited 882d ago )

@bigpappy

Titanfall will definitly be a big seller its pvz we need to be worried about. I dont know why ea would go this route with such a beautiful game. The android and ios versions of previous games in the series can be played offline,so why make the console version online dependent?