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Termination of the Remaining Online Services for Gran Turismo 5

As previously mentioned in past announcements, the remaining online services for Gran Turismo 5, including Online Lobby, Seasonal Events, Museum, News, Community, Remote Race, Log in Bonus, Online Dealership and DLC purchase, will no longer be available after 03:00 EDT, 30 May, 2014.

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yewles11731d ago

This is indeed rotten here...

PoSTedUP1731d ago (Edited 1731d ago )

yeah that is horrible. **** digital, im avoiding it as much as possible from now on. the gamers control the industry.

Eonjay1731d ago

This is why I am against DLC. Put everything on one disc. I will pay for that disc, and 100 years from now I will still have what I paid for.

theshonen88991730d ago

While I would be against this for most other games, as a GT gamer I can't really say I care. GT6 includes almost everything from GT5 and its DLCs (for better or for worse) so I don't see the necessity in wasting precious server space keeping it on there.

On the other hand, I'm still furious with them shutting down MAG and Resistance. If they're going to shut down the servers at least give people the capabilities to create their own private servers. Resistance 3 isn't even that old.

dcj05241730d ago

@Eonjay, i don't think disc has been around for 100 years lol. What if the material breaks down?

SolidStoner1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

just for the info..

all DLC content for GT5.. is available FREE in GT6..

dont forget that PD do use almost everything from previous games! in the end I dont need those GT5 DLC's, I need GT6!

And it is different in many ways.. in all ways better (for those who say they look the same.. because they look almost the same, they feel and drive different) ;)

BattleAxe1730d ago

EA has already beat Sony with this by removing the ability to download Burnout Paradise DLC from the PC version.

PoSTedUP1730d ago

i was gonna post this yesterday but didnt feel like it: its about princible, they are only doing this bc GT6 sales suck and they want people to transition. im getting GT6 when i get myself back together, but i completely undertlstand why its not selling well. id expect something like this from MS, not PD and Sony tbh.

its like someone telling you whats best for You, taking back what you paid for, and making you buy it again... its BS imo. unless im misinformed and maybe overracting, i just cant see it anyother way atm. someone please fill me in.

tbone5671730d ago

This is why I'm never buying Sony DLC. Only 3 years on Playstation and online for GT5 getting killed. Even Forza 2 still works online.

Dee_911730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

Stupid article..
Before everyone get all upset about this.This was an issue with gt5's first DLC pack.Since this was their first time attempting DLC, they over looked some things, like being able to use it on multiple accounts, and downloading it more than once (the Paint Pack” and “Racing Gear Pack).With all the newer DLC, you are able to use on multiple accounts and re-download .You weren't able to re-download the paint and race pack regardless, because it was a mess up on PD part.
This has nothing to do with DRM.It was just the way PD set up the first batch of DLC ( the Race gear and paint).The newer DLC "fixed it.Which is why you will still be able to download it.

@PoSTedUP
GT6 Sold like 2million in a month..How the hell is that bad sales?

PoSTedUP1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

@Dmarc- that number isnt good for a GT game actually, and the fact that sales almost fell off right aftet that, and the fact that PS3 fanbase is almost doubled now from what it was in 2010; the sales suck and should be Much better. look at GT5 sales in the same time frame and the pace it had for the following few years... thats the reason they are killing GT5 online.

Dee_911730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

No other GT came out after the next Gen system came out.No other GT sold digital (sales which aren't even counted btw).PD never announced that they were working the next iteration of gt prior to the next GT coming out.Rumors of a GT on a old system have never been rumored to be ported to the newer system.
I think its time to stop comparing it to other gran turismos.. and start comparing them to maybe normal games?

The more logical reasoning for "killing gt5 online" would be because they came to an conclusion that paying for those servers and taking man power from gt6 and gt7 aren't worth it.But if you feel that sensationalist reason you have is actually the reason, then feel free to feel so.But don't try to pass of your emotional fueled opinion as a fact.

PoSTedUP1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

how is tha logical? the majority of the fans are on GT5 still; yeah exctly, its not worth keeping that server going BC ppl are still playing it. shut it down and then you have people buying GT6 becuse thats the Only place the fans can compete and play their DLC.

no doubt ppl may be waiting on GT7 but there are still 70+million ps3 users. the logical reason for a lot of ppl not buying GT6 bc it looks very similar to GT5 (thats all i heard online prior to release). tho i do take some of thoes factors into account, sales arent nearly as high as they should be.

it not selling like a GT game but PD most definatly wants it to sell like a GT game thus why they are shutting down GT5 and taking away its DLC. GT6 developement would just go to waste. everyone expected it to sell like crazy, untill they saw it...

and besides the point, ppl paid for the DLC, where is the content they spent money on? do they still have it? ...no, they dont. and they have to spend money to play something they already paid for. like i said, **** digital.

PoSTedUP1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

so, your logic actually doesnt make sense. its obvious that they should still be supporting thoes servers, and its obvious why they are not.

Dee_911729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

Yes.Despite gt5 having a huge install base, they will stop supporting it.That is whats called a compromise.It happens a lot.Nothing illogical about it.I don't think you know what logical means.Just because you see people on the internet saying they wont get gt6 because it looks like gt5, doesn't make it an logical explanation for its "lack of sales".Thats your assumption.They aren't taking away DLC, as I explained earlier.You still have access to the DLC you bought except those 2 packs you didn't have access to re-download from the beginning.

gt6 IS selling like a GT game.Just because its not selling like a game people waited 5 years for don't mean its not selling.All of this "obvious" stuff is "obvious" and logical to you because you don't know what your talking about, so you jump to conclusions without knowing whats what.

GT5 sold way more than Prologue.They ended the online portion of prologue in the SAME time frame they did gt5 to gt6 ( a few months after release).Even though a large portion of people still played prologue.They took GT HD offline soon after prologue came out.. As you can see this isn't uncommon for PD.They like to only focus on 1 or 2 games at a time.Like I said.You are letting your emotions get in the way of seeing what this really is.If not please show me how its so obvious.Besides saying "its obvious"

Also how does my logic not make sense?Your logic even make sense for someone who doesn't know the whole picture..I'm really curious as to how my logic doesn't make sense..

PoSTedUP1729d ago

GT6 isnt selling like GT game, i think even everyone in the world can agree on that.

GT5p was a very small Prologue to what GT5 was. people over paid to get their hands on a very small fraction of the game early (as did i). shutting that down is obvious. GTHD was free (wasnt it?). now were talking a huge full fledged GT game that people invested a lot of time in and wasnt limited.

"despite gt5 having a huge install base, they will stop supporting it, its called a compromise"

yeah, you already said that, and because of GT6 and GT7p servers, but i already explained that GT7p is a ways away and most of the fanbase is on GT5 thus why they should still support it. they really arent compromising nothing, they want ppl to transition. you still are yet to rebuttle that with logic. my opinion still stands. you can just say "oh its just a compromise" not explain youself in this situation, and then argue that fact of logic... do you even hear yourself?

and just by saying things like "you dont know whats what" and "logic", you my friend, are still yet to come to a valid point as to what i said doesnt make sense; while i just kinda told you why your comments arent bringing the "logic"

look around you, this sucks, this HUGE game is only 4 years old (maybe 3.5), there really is no other reason to shut down the servers this early (with most of the fanbase on it, becuse its still pretty young) other than they want ppl to transition to GT6. you have also yet to give a different maybe more logical explanation to that. and that is my whole point.

Dee_911729d ago

"GT6 isnt selling like GT game, i think even everyone in the world can agree on that. "

So to you selling like a GT game is what? Just because its a couple 100k bellow the average when your selling 1million plus on average doesn't mean its not selling like a GT game, its selling more than other well established games..No doubt its the slowest selling GT game.I posted 4 reasons what might be causing it.. You posted 1 reason..

"GT5p was a very small Prologue to what GT5 was. people over paid to get their hands on a very small fraction of the game early (as did i). shutting that down is obvious. GTHD was free (wasnt it?). now were talking a huge full fledged GT game that people invested a lot of time in and wasnt limited."

So your saying because these weren't full games, they don't count basically.. Despite the fact GT5P and GTHD had a majority of the fans still playing when they went offline.But isn't that the exact reason you said they shouldn't take GT5 offline? Why is it an valid reason only with gt5 but not GT5p and GTHD?

"yeah, you already said that, and because of GT6 and GT7p servers, but i already explained that GT7p is a ways away and most of the fanbase is on GT5 thus why they should still support it."

No doubt they should still support, but I am telling why they aren't.You don't know how far along gt7p is.Kaz hinted at a 2015 release.

" they really arent compromising nothing, they want ppl to transition. you still are yet to rebuttle that with logic. "

How the hell aren't they compromising ? This is an prime example of an compromise.They decided for us that if we want GT7 and for them focus on gt6, they need to shift support from gt5.Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it any less of a compromise

"my opinion still stands. you can just say "oh its just a compromise" not explain youself in this situation, and then argue that fact of logic... do you even hear yourself? "

Never said your opinion didn't stand, I think you should actually read what I type.I'm sorry, I assumed you knew what a compromise was.Didn't see the need to explain it.

"and just by saying things like "you dont know whats what" and "logic", you my friend, are still yet to come to a valid point as to what i said doesnt make sense; while i just kinda told you why your comments arent bringing the "logic" "

Like I said you should actually read and comprehend what I am typing.I told you "whats, what", but you decided that because the games aren't full games they somehow dont count..
I feel like an broken record. READ WHAT I TYPE. I never once said what you are saying doesn;t make sense.I specifically said it made sense, and I specifically said you are free to feel that way.

"look around you, this sucks, this HUGE game is only 4 years old (maybe 3.5), there really is no other reason to shut down the servers this early (with most of the fanbase on it, becuse its still pretty young) other than they want ppl to transition to GT6. you have also yet to give a different maybe more logical explanation to that. and that is my whole point."

Look around me? You do know the reason you see mainly complaints on the internet is because this is the medium for complaining right?Never try to use complaints off the internet as a main census.Because 9 times out of 10 they are only a fraction of the entire fanbase.

I have given 2 different.. and more subjectively logical reasons why they are taking GT5 offline.. If you aren't actually gonna read what I type, stop replying to me.

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frostypants1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

This is the one...THE ONE truly meaningful area where PCs kill consoles (the graphics margin is shrinking). Most PC games allow people to create their own servers, which means even the deadest of dead games usually have SOMEONE keeping it alive online. There's still people (LOTS of people) out there hosting Quake 2 for f*cks sake. Had MAG been a PC game you can bet your ass it would still be out there for eternity. I'm usually pretty hard on the PC fanboys but in this area PCs do have an advantage.

SolidStoner1730d ago

PC will change over time, so in the end even those old games would not work after many years on new PC's.. also many things can change with internet infrastructure, that also may change how everything works.. in the end nothing will last forever.. not PC games, not earth, not humans! Gaming is doomed I tell ya! after 100 million years :) jk

DeathOfTheFanBoy1730d ago

I've not read the article but surely this is a mistake?

I can still re download anything I've bought on my 360, including stuff that has not been available to purchase for years.

I've not actually bought any of the GT5 dlc as I never got that into it, if I had bought it though I would be writing some pretty hate filled emails.

I am assuming someone got their wires crossed with this one though... I can't believe they would do this tbh.

yewles11730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

I've discovered that it's just the paint and racing gear DLC going away from the download queue, track, car and etc. DLC you purchased will remain...

http://www.gran-turismo.com...

Kayant1730d ago

@yewles1

So it's just cosmetic stuff you won't access to? Weird but at least not as shitty as not being able to re download the other DLCs. One of the reasons I don't like/see the value in most DLCs.

bromtown1730d ago

Yeah, if you already own the DLC it'll be in your download list forever and you'll be able to access it even after May when they remove it from the store.

I don't get why this is such a surprise to be frank, it's a common thing that servers get shut down eventually - GT5 came out 4 years ago, it's had a good run and now GT6 is available.

It was inevitable.

Dee_911730d ago

Yea yewles1
You were never able to re-download those packs since day one.

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showtimefolks1730d ago

this is why i like buying physical copies, all digital scares me for these reason

Fluke_Skywalker1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

I agree, for some reason I recently had this dawn on me with regards to my music collection. I haven't bought a CD in many many years and I hadn't backed up my hdd in a long long time. Suddenly it dawned on my that if my hdd packs in I'll lose thousands of pound worth of music forever!

Needless to say my hdd is now backed up on a weekly basis, to two backup drives!

webeblazing1730d ago

your still not going to be able to play online. how is this news. since the new consoles are out more games on the older platforms are not going to be supported. it happens every gen. the older the game on that console the fast they will drop support.

im surprise people care. usually console only gamers stay hopping on to the next big game.

Rhythmattic1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

Fluke_Skywalker

Yep, I use to Manage a Hi Tech Music store, selling , Installing , supporting Music/Film Studio's setups....

I had a saying there, which is still relevant to this day:-

"Data does not exist unless its in two different places"

This is why sony should allow individual DLC backup's to external media when the servers are disconnected. Unfortunately , we all know that isn't going to happen.

Me-Time1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

Am I missing something? "..., even if you thought you owned them."

http://www.gtplanet.net/kee...

You can still download them. You can't buy them from there on out, but if you paid for them already they won't disappear into thin air.

ILikeGamesNotCorps1730d ago

Fuck anyone defending this by saying GT6 has everything that the DLC had. You are the worst kind of Sony fans. Defending the indefensible because you have a pathological need to support a company that doesn't care one lick about you.

You defend this shit? How can you say you don't care? It is bad for gamers bad for consumer rights bad bad bad.

Larry L1730d ago

Wait........but GT6 does have all the DLC content from GT5. And what does that have to do with this? What has to be defended about a game's servers being shut down? Would you keep selling DLC for a game that's no longer fully functional? That would seem FAR worse to me. It sounds like a move from a company that actually does care about their fanbase if you ask me. Ensuring their fans can't accidentally waste hard earned money on a game that's not up and running.

I mean it kinda sucks the online's going down for people who don't want to upgrade to GT6 for some reason, but that's the price we pay as gamers who demanded stable online servers instead of P2P networking for our "AAA" games. And these servers cost alot of money to keep running, and we all know Sony isn't the biggest cash cow. They aren't like MS who think nothing of throwing away 50, 100 million dollars with no intention of making it back.

And it's also a shame that these games which have their servers shut down can't simply be updated to P2P games, but there's no reason to fly off the handle and over-react by insulting people who are "defending" something to you, which in reality doesn't really need defending in the first place.

Though I must say, to me personally, you are the worst kind of fan and by far the most annoying; the Anti-Fanboy Fanboy. You remind me of the atheists who evangelize atheism. Their atheism is a religion to them and any other offends, so blinded by their faith they don't see the irony. Instead of wasting your precious time bashing systems or games, you waste it bashing people you dub "fanboys", often when it's someone just talking logic, not even a fanboy. If you were a political troll instead of a gamer troll, you'd call me racist because I disagree with most of Obama's policies instead of calling me a fanboy for understanding why a game's servers have to get shut down sooner or later for one reason or another.

/rant

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jackanderson19851731d ago

seriously william usher can't go a single article without mentioning the xbox somehow.

this is a potential issue with a future digital only eventuality that we will come to. As far as I know (and have actually utilised) MS keep their digital titles on servers somewhere even if they've pulled it from the marketplace.

i do hope in the future that there is somewhere/someone who will keep all of this DLC and whatnot that's available only through digital somewhere, it'd be a shame to think that the work will disappear after such a short time of existence

cyguration1730d ago

Huh? How is Microsoft exempt from this? Didn't they already do this with the OG Xbox and a bunch of XBLA titles that were lost when they shutdown live?

MrSwankSinatra1731d ago

are these packs online only packs similar to map packs or are they shared between ofline & online?

Eonjay1731d ago

Its DLC period. So if you get a new PS3 on day, you can't download the extra cars or content you have purchased.

grashopper1730d ago

You're wrong. Just the 1 time use DLC like the paint packs and racing suits are going away. The cars and tracks you can still download from your downloads list.

Eonjay1730d ago

@grasshopper

Thanks for the clarification.

MrSwankSinatra1730d ago

online only DLC makes sense, because obviously if you bought the map packs for a certain game and a company shuts down the servers, you are not gonna be able to use the maps of the multiplayer for that matter period. which is why i ask if this DLC is online only content or can you use this DLC in the offline mode.

jerethdagryphon1731d ago

some will remain avalible if oyu have the item on your list some wont