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Submitted by Abriael 183d ago | news

PS4 Exclusive The Order: 1886 Set to Get Even Better: Developers Talk About Lighting and AI

The gameplay footage shown for The Order: 1886 yesterday was absolutely impressive under many points of view, but today the devs explain that the game could improve even further between now and its release. (PS4, The Order: 1886)

The_Infected  +   183d ago
I know one thing the graphics are better than the reveal trailer which blows my mind and any improvements to other parts of the game would be amazing but graphically I'm already mind blown.
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ArmGunar  +   183d ago
My body is ready for a gameplay sequence at E3 like U2 in 2009 or TLOU in 2012 :D
inveni0  +   183d ago
I think R@D has done a great job with this engine. But I'm anxious to see how big the environments get. All I've seen so far are tiny hallways and a rooftop peek. I'd like to see a massive courtyard battle with all of this realistic destruction I keep hearing about.
THC CELL  +   183d ago
gotta be the last of us ai, they was so amazing
Irishguy95  +   182d ago
Yeah, back in reveal gameplay, they weren't like that in the actual game
curtis92  +   183d ago
My only concern is that Sony might feel the need to get this game out for holidays 2014 and I really hope it doesn't get rushed. Sony is good about not rushing things though so it's only a minor concern.
Abriael  +   183d ago
They worked on it for the last 5 years. That doesn't sound rushed to me.
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jukins  +   183d ago
Yea but I'm sure actual game development has been no more than 2 years and the team isn't exactly huge so yea hopefully it's not rushed. Just look at killzone shadow falls in development for at least 3 years and it ended up being a rushed game.
ziggurcat  +   183d ago
@ jukins:

rushed, how? "rushed" seems to be the new "generic" buzzword people keep throwing around, and 3-5 years of development time is hardly what anyone would consider "rushed."
curtis92  +   183d ago
Could be in dev for 10 years... if it's not ready at expected release it's not ready... not saying it isn't ready, just hoping that if it's not they don't push it out anyway.
thereapersson  +   183d ago
It'll be ready at dawn...
sobekflakmonkey  +   183d ago
@jukins

If what you mean by "rushed" is that they didn't have co-op ready nor did they have ingame voice chat or any of the large list of things missing from the multiplayer, I would say you are correct, but if you're talking about visuals and such...I dunno...I mean yes of course games are gonna look better later on, but KZ was and is a launch title, so I dunno..what you were getting at exactly..
sckipt  +   183d ago
Then again Duke Nukem was worked on for over a decade....
zerog  +   183d ago
They said the idea started around 06 with most of the development starting around 3 years ago.
morganfell  +   182d ago
They - Sony EU and RAD - have already said the game is coming in 2014. They are geting ready to enter beta in a couple of months. There is little doubt it will be ready.

I am actually interested in learning more about the investigative side of the gameplay.
bleedsoe9mm  +   183d ago
got to be rushing them because other than the character models that gameplay video was a mess . not sure why they put that out in the public . hope they take the time to get it right

@abriael i'm not talking about what the final game is going to be like but that its being rushed . why else put something like wasn't super polished out , example infamous second son gameplay video from E3 looked awesome .
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Abriael  +   183d ago
If you think that was a mess, you never saw non-final gameplay footage of a game six months before release.
sckipt  +   183d ago
It is called hype and secondly they showed around 25 seconds of in game footage not letting us know what the game is really about...... that they are hiding behind the E3 wall
jkendrick  +   183d ago
@bleed

You Xbox trolls seems to be shaking in your boots. Lets see, PlayStation has no games and now rushed games. I think you got it twisted, this is Sony not Micro$oft.
bleedsoe9mm  +   183d ago
@jkendrickso now questioning why they would show something that isn't super polished is being a xbox fan , go sit in a quiet room and sip your sony koolaid , i'm not joining your cult .

i hope the next time they show the game it is awesome
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nycgamer4ever  +   183d ago
@bleed its at least 8 months out from release. get a grip please.
WeAreLegion  +   183d ago
If they haven't forced Team ICO to release The Last Guardian yet, I think they'll give these guys enough time. ;)
Lord Maim  +   183d ago
On that note, there's such a thing as being *too* relaxed. They could lean on those guys a little. Honestly though, I'm hoping that they turn out a masterpiece and just shut down though. After Ico/SOTC, the pressure to deliver a masterpiece every time must be incredible.
plaZeHD  +   183d ago
"Sony is good about not rushing things" I beg to differ.
Uncharted 3 is a perfect example. You can see that Naughty Dog was trying to tell a bit more complex and richer story than previous installments, but they didn't have enough time so they had to patch things up before the game gets released. And that hurt the story quite bad.
danthegardner  +   183d ago
The story was indeed a bit of a mess. They shot themselves with announcing the release date and not knowing they could not have everything tight by that time. I hope they don't make the same mistake with Uncharted 4. The only agree from me btw, people don't seem to like the fact that that actually happened.
ArchangelMike  +   183d ago
If you go by Squenix standards 3-5 years in development is a 'rushed' game. Anything less is just DLC (FFXIII I'm looking at you)

/s
ExitToExisT  +   183d ago
I think this game is over-hyped by the game websites since it's a ps4 exc and everyone loves ps4 these days.
I watched the gameplay video yesterday and it was quite average.

Before hitting disagree button, know that i'm not a fanboy of any company or console, will buy both next gen consoles this year.
dcj0524  +   183d ago
Agreed. But to be fair,the last of us is a pretty standard TPS too but the way it was implemented made goty.
isa_scout  +   183d ago
I completely disagree. From the way Joel took cover naturally without the use of buttons, the use of supplements to effectively level Joel up, and the exceptional crafting system The Last of Us was anything but a standard TPS.
While I do realize that you said it was the way it was implemented that made it goty; to me that just doesn't make sense. Any game is a standard game until all the features are implemented then they become something more... For instance I absolutely loved the TitanFall beta, but if you distill it down to it's most basic form it is just your standard FPS. However, the some total of it's parts make it far more than just a standard FPS...Agreed?
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KwietStorm  +   183d ago
I haven't played too many standard TPS games with crafting, survival horror, no health regeneration, and limited actual shooting.
scott182  +   183d ago
I love how bad this game is pissing people off. Keep the rants coming people...
nycgamer4ever  +   183d ago
So easy to spot people who haven't played the game. Try playing TLOU on hard or above as a "standard" TPS and see what happens. Rage quit and broker controller ensues. LMAO
WeAreLegion  +   183d ago
"quite average"

I'm sorry, but what were you expecting? Multiple dimensions? Teleportation? MMO? Seriously... I've heard people complain because The Order doesn't revolutionize third person shooters, but why?
Revolver_X_  +   183d ago
Im just taking notes. I'd be willing to bet most of those saying that will be shouting from the rooftops at the next Gears reveal.
jkendrick  +   183d ago
@ wearelegion

Because Microsoft didn't pay or create it. If it were Microsoft all these xbots would be eating it up as if it was the second coming of Titanfall.
DanielGearSolid  +   183d ago
I think everyone hating on the game is copy pasting ign's "worries" into their brains.

Seriously, there was like 5mins of HANDS OFF third person gunplay...
And now the whole game is gears of war?...

There is so much none of us know about the game, and its sad ppl are taking the ign thing and running with it
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Saito  +   183d ago
Scapegoating bruh. Nice try.
KwietStorm  +   183d ago
Ok I'll just hit the disagree button because I disagree.
BallsEye  +   183d ago
I believe people need to stop for a second with the hype. Graphics look good but what we saw from gameplay and hands on impressions of ign it does look like a generic game with cool style and great graphics. We need more. People get crazy about cloth etc and not care about anything else. To remind you Ryse have amazing cloth physics, even muscles and bodyfat physics, hair psyhics (YEP!) in the same time tons of foliage with physics and hundreds of npcs on screen and HEY how did that game turned out? Eeven with MP (the order has none) people ran through it, played some arena and no one cares anymore.

To remind everyone who say The order is first next gen game, Ryse is still blowing everyone away. Game is out, no need to spectaculate if it's in-game or not.

here since people post gifs...ALL IN-GAME footage, you can see plenty of simulation going on never seen in any other game:

http://cdn.memearcade.com/2... (amazing water)

http://i.minus.com/iwDq2SqI... (fur)

http://static.giantbomb.com... (epic moment, new centurion)

http://fc07.deviantart.net/... (face expression just too real, that damn eyes got soul!)

http://static.gamespot.com/... (shaking cheeks!)

http://fc06.deviantart.net/...

https://static.squarespace.... (battle, lot of physics simulation on enemy)

https://static.squarespace.... (that mud)

http://i2.wp.com/i.minus.co...

It's looking amazing but did it make the game?
Stop the hype train people...
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ABeastNamedTariq  +   183d ago
All I see is you making an excuse to suck the hell out of Ryse. Which is fine. But still lol.

Can't make too many claims w/o seeing more gameplay and environments – especially that it's generic. (I think I just repeated your general point, sorry.)

Anywho. I'm excited for it. I like the concept. And it's purdy.
GW212  +   183d ago
Hahaha you are just a joke. Ryse. Haha. Tomb Raider on PS4 looks better than Ryse. Truth.com.
HeavenlySnipes  +   183d ago
In game doesn't mean controllable gameplay

For example, all the ND cutscenes from Uncharted to the Last of Us are in game but they don't represent the graphics you see while playing. They are prerendered using the game's engine

Every single gif you posted was from a prerendered cutscene.

The devs for The Order are stressing that there will be no difference between the cutscenes and the gameplay, like you see with Ryse

These are the actual graphics of Ryse ingame
http://cdn.medialib.compute...

http://www.blogcdn.com/slid...

http://www.playdevil.net/up...

http://media1.gameinformer....

If you think those look better than The Order than lol
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scott182  +   183d ago
Thanks for those gifs, it helps reinforce the fact that The order is far ahead of any game currently out graphically.
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pyramidshead  +   183d ago
Trying way too hard. lol.
BallsEye  +   183d ago
@HeavenlySnipes

Really chosing some crap low quality shots? I can do same with any game, here goes kz the best looking ps4 game:

http://static.gamespot.com/...

http://static.gamespot.com/...

wtf?? from official gamespot review
more?

http://cdn.teckler.com/imag...

So please come and say killzone looks like on these screens at all times. Does it? You just lost at your own game.

Ryse is out, go on see impressions anywhere, All devs and reviewers prise it for a reason when it comes to graphics. You are delusional. I'm feel sorry for you that you can not play it yourself and then judge it...oh wait, i bet you will say in a sec you own all consoles...
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HeavenlySnipes  +   183d ago
First one is from multiplayer (lol @ thinking Sp and MP have the same graphical fidelity)

Second one looks great, seems to have been captured while the camera was moving because of the blur on the sides of the screen but a great shot of the draw distance of the game

I don't know if that third one is from the initial alpha reveal or not because that scene is what they showed when they first unveiled the game

Even taking pics from Gamespot or IGN you won't find any that look better than The Order lmao

Here is every Ryse pic Gamespot has, no cherry picking. Go ahead and look at all of them (IGN only has pics from June before they downgraded the graphics)
http://www.gamespot.com/rys...
Parhelion69  +   183d ago
BTW most (if not all) of Ryse's cutscenes are pre-rendered, sorry to disappoint you:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

quote:
Crytek's stated commitment to "real-time, all the time" goes unrealised in Ryse with the move to pre-rendered cut-scenes. This is a common technique employed in many last-generation games that helps move the narrative forward while concealing loading, but we can't help feel disappointment in missing the opportunity to see these scenes play out in real-time
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nycgamer4ever  +   183d ago
I love these trolls. One second its it looks good but game play is like a generic tps gear clone even though its nothing like gears. even if it was what's so bad about that? plenty of people like gears.

Next second they contradict themselves with this kind of post about how Ryse is the best looking game ever, yet forgets to mention the abysmal "game play".

smh

I really don't know why people go to such great lengths to defend a piece of plastic, as if it is ruining their lives. 100% they wont buy this game even if it turned out to be the best game ever because its not from "their" company and on their console. so why bother?
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kenshiro100  +   183d ago
You are a sad little man. Just saying.
imt558  +   182d ago
Dude, those GIF's are from prerendered cut-scenes.
T2  +   183d ago
it was not quite average, it showed some graphics and effects that were quite good actually.. and it's not even in release form yet.
you may not be a fanboy but everyone is still going to disagree with your opinion. The game looks cool and has a cool setting. People saying this game looks like an "average tps" is a cop-out , you could literally say that about any game ever.
Sonic was a mario clone
bf is a cod clone
kz is a halo clone

doesn't say anything about how good any of those games are or are not.
jkendrick  +   183d ago
Please, Average? Thats Titanfall Troll.
chrissx  +   183d ago
Wow, better graphics than the latest vids? Incredible.
MasterCornholio  +   183d ago
I find that So hard to believe. But this is Sony that we are talking about.
KwietStorm  +   183d ago
Might seem inconceivable at first, but realistically, by the time it releases, it will still only be a year that PS4 has been available. Think about how Uncharted looked when it was in development, compared to release, and think about what Uncharted 3 looks like.
MasterCornholio  +   183d ago
Can't wait to see more.

WTF I have 5 bubbles again. Does anyone know how to check posts that increase or decrease your bubbles?
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WeAreLegion  +   183d ago
Ask a mod. I lost two in one day...and I didn't even comment that day.
pyramidshead  +   183d ago
Check your comment section by viewing your own account as if someone else was naturally. Then click the comment tab and scroll through them.

One of of them will have the positive comment attached to it like "funny" or "well said" that'll be the one that got you the bubble bump.
S2Killinit  +   183d ago
this thing is looking amazing
Voltsx2  +   183d ago
The graphics look amazing. However, although I'm fine with the shooting mechanics, I really hope the melee is dynamic like you can fight any and all enemies. The way it looked from the video was like, it would be small set pieces. It's all early stuff that we're seeing though, either way I'm super excited.
jmac53  +   183d ago
I don't understand why people were underwhelmed by this gameplay reveal. We only saw a small snippet and it looks freaking amazing! Have gamers become that jaded and nitpicky now?
Voltsx2  +   183d ago
Only because it looks so good. We want it to be as perfect but as we all know perfection is hard to reach.
killzone619  +   183d ago
i know man. it looks really realistic
bleedsoe9mm  +   183d ago
the seemless transition from cut scene to QTE was impressive , but it didn't interest me in ryse and doesn't interest me here .the 3rd person shooting didn't look that impression just another corridor 3rd person cover shooter . hopefully there is more to the game and their next gameplay video is more than just graphical flash (too much like the ryse video from E3)
CrossingEden  +   182d ago
I don't understand why people are overwhelmed by this gameplay reveal. We only saw a small snippet and it looks average. Have gamers become that easy to impress now?
Salooh  +   183d ago
It will happen , i believe in sony when it comes to their exclusives ..
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killzone619  +   183d ago
Please have smart AI
killzone619  +   183d ago
Looks awesome
DerekFlint007  +   183d ago
I suppose i'm a bit of an old scrote and a curmudgeon but for me, yesterday's gameplay reveal was somewhat underwhelming and i feel the developers and marketing fellow's rather botched the opportunity to really show off the true potential of this much anticipated fresh franchise. The trailer seemed more like a teaser with too few snippets of exciting gameplay segments.

In short i just wish that we got to see a wee bit more gameplay.
DarkLord1003  +   183d ago
I hope this is not going to be the PS4 version of Lair....
Geekman  +   183d ago
WOO! Lighting and AI! Forget making sure the gameplay doesn't feel like garbage and making sure it runs at 60fps like it should! GRAPHICS DEFINE NEXT GEN!
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rarity  +   183d ago
I know they just wanna just wanna make sure the game looks good and the AI aren't retarded screw them right? They still have time to work on gameplay dude it's not like they stopped on the gameplay part after 2 minutes and went straight to graphics.
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Geekman  +   183d ago
I know. Focusing more on graphics is GOOD. This game might be almost as good as Killzone: Shadowfall.
nycgamer4ever  +   183d ago
You guys really are losing it man. now graphics don't matter? graphics are the first thing you see when you play a game. its just as important as game play and Ai and everything else that makes a game. sure its not the only important thing but seriously you people have to stop downplaying graphics like it don't matter. The only people who say this are people who don't have it.

And downplaying lighting to boot wow. I didn't think people here could be that bitter that they start talking nonsense. lighting is one of the most important things in an engine. it can totaling immerse you in a game.
Geekman  +   183d ago
I DO have the graphics, and I can tell you as long as they don't look like complete garbage (DBZ: Battle of Z. Ride to Hell: Contribution.) then the game is playable. Forgive me if I feel like more time should be spent into making sure the game actually plays well instead of how pretty it is.
larrysdirtydrawss  +   183d ago
looks insanely good(fuking ridiculous really) graphics wise already,,,just focus now on a SOLID 30fps.

geekman,the majority of console games aren't 60fps,and never will be the majority.... 30fps is fine and still a smooth experience,its about getting the game to a constant 30fps..... noway this specific game is getting to 60 with this fidelity. play a indie game,plenty of them are 60fps,doesnt mean the game is actually good... and say hello to your mother for me

and kzsf is a solid game,mp and sp
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ibrake4naps  +   183d ago
Game of the year contender!
S2Killinit  +   183d ago
Super excited. The Order and Destiny FTW
Doritos_Pope  +   183d ago
The Order, actually founded by me, the Doritos Pope. Be blessed by my Doritos holy black water my knights! Be blessed by my Dew!
jmac53  +   182d ago
Oh Holy One! I will eat upon the tortilla crisp as that is your flesh and I will drink the dew as that is your blood.
RussellGorall  +   182d ago
How about a steady framerate and 1080p, first?
GW212  +   181d ago
Are you a paid MS contributor?

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