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Microsoft Plans On Approaching Some Of The Ex-Irrational Devs About Coming To Work For Them

Microsoft Plans On Approaching Some Of The Ex-Irrational Devs About Coming To Work For Them. (Industry, Irrational Games, Phil Spencer, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

AngelicIceDiamond  +   725d ago
I understand MS went on a hiring spree for its 1st party devs. They could use more. In fact as many AAA devs as possible to strengthen their talent of 1st party power.

And Irrational devs will do just that.

If everything works out this is significantly big if possibly huge for MS.

these are talented devs that made the award winning game of the year Bioshock: Infinite
jhoward585  +   725d ago
Agreed, MS can sure use the help. I wish MS good luck.
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thereapersson  +   724d ago
Hopefully they actually do something with that development talent if they plan on bringing them aboard, instead of once again shuffling them around into a kinect-laden future. I'm more than willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt on this one should anything pan out, but I'm still skeptical considering the way they handled the studios they acquired during the 360 era.
lolCHILLbro  +   724d ago
Sony and Microsoft both look to be bringing the games this generation, CANT WAIT
mcstorm  +   724d ago
@lolCHILLbro I agree. Its good to see Sony and Microsoft now look to use there own IP's instead of relaying on 3rd party games. I think this new gen is going to be better than the last in terms of quality 1st party games from all 3. Nintendo are on a high at the moment for me as Mario 3D world, Windwaker, Pikmin 3 and Lego City have been a lot of fun. Add that to Forza 5 and KI on the xbox one and the 1st party lineup has got off to a great start for me.

We still have the big name from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to come too like Halo, Mario Kart and UC.
thereapersson  +   724d ago
Yes, agreed ChillBro, there are a lot of promising titles across the board due in the remainder of the year. This gen should be a lot of fun.
Kryptix  +   724d ago

I totally agree with you. Looking at how they handled Rare, which contained some of the best developers in the 90s makes me skeptical till I see them use all these developers they acquire for really good use.

And if they do learn from the past and use these ex-Irrational devs to make a very fascinating and great game, then the gamer benefits and I applaud them for improving their ways.

Can't hate for what Microsoft is doing now since that means the ex-Irrational developers can get back on the job and that's what I want for them because of how amazing their games were...but if they ruin this one more time like what they did to Rare for over a decade, then I can't trust MS anymore in that particular subject of bringing all these known veteran devs on board.
Giul_Xainx  +   724d ago
Trying to grab developers coming out of a company that size is like trying to slow a tidal wave with a boat. Their henchmen are just going to get run over. These devs have their eyes set on the indie scene.
christocolus  +   724d ago
Rod fergusson worked at irratonal games just before joining Black Tusk. i bet he wouldn't mind coaxing ms into bringing some of his former colleagues over to work with him at Black tusk.

im glad to see ms working really hard to expand their in house studios.


how many kinect only titles have been announced for the xbx one? i dont think all ms internal teams will be churning out kinect games and the new direction ms is going certainly proves they learnt a lot from their mistakes with the 360. rare also made viva pinata, kameo and banjoe k: nuts and bolts and while those games sold quite well the biggest seller was still kinect sports(more than 5.5 million copies),but i believe this gen rare will return to their roots with a lot more adventure games.
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thereapersson  +   724d ago
Which is why I said I'd be willing to see if MS does anything major for the One or if they just absorb labor, shutter studios and focus mostly on Kinect and the casual market (once again). Rare is probably the biggest example; a studio that had many great games (Banjo, Perfect Dark, etc.). Now what do they have to show for themselves? You can't deny this is still a worrisome topic with MS.
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hulk_bash1987  +   724d ago
Good on Microsoft for trying to strengthen their internal development studios. I wanna also wish a good luck to all the Irrational Games employees who lost their jobs. You are all a talented group of people and thank you for some amazing game experiences.
Joey_Leone  +   724d ago
This is bad
forcefullpower  +   724d ago
Black tusk just went from a new ip studio to mediocre milking ip studio. I wouldnt recommend anyone joining black tusk now.
lolCHILLbro  +   724d ago
@thereaperson, Maybe RARE just couldnt adapt to the new generation (360)? maybe the team fell apart on its own? maybe they make alot of money or did off kinect games? if they were with nintendo they would also be making motion games
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Kryptix  +   724d ago
Nope, according to ex-Rare employees, there was a lot of mismanagement at Microsoft with the studio.

"“We were being asked to make the games we’d always made for an audience that didn’t want those sort of games. The reason we did Black Widow, Crackdown and aged up Kameo was because we were trying to bridge that gap but Microsoft wouldn’t let us.” -

"At first it seemed that [Microsoft] wouldn't interfere much, but it was soon clear that they were more interested in using Rare to help aim at a younger market. This stifled a lot of creativity, Rare was renowned for their diverse portfolio, so to not be involved in making mature games was a real blow. There [were] numerous projects that were put forward that I believe would have been huge hits, but Microsoft rejected them one after the other. I remember seeing a couple of prototypes that Chris Seavor (the creator of Microsoft) had designed and was working on that looked amazing, but alas they got shelved." -

And that's all the info you need to know why Rare became what it currently is. Not because of themselves, but because of Microsoft.
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Kryptix  +   724d ago
Chris Seavor (the creator of Conker)*

Chris Seavor also spoke against Microsoft in his Twitter posts, dropped out of Rare and led him to working for Nintendo.

"After Rare was bought by Microsoft he remade Conker's Bad Fur day for the Xbox. Conker: Live & Reloaded launched in 2005 with dumbed down content and Live-enabled multiplayer.

After that, Seavor headed up multiple Xbox 360 projects that never saw the light of day, including Conker 2, Perfect Dark Core, Ordinary Joe and Urchin. He saw Kameo 2, a motion control game called Savannah and more fall by the wayside." -

Can you believe there were plans for Conker 2 and a new Perfect Dark before they got shelved? Another reason why Microsoft's acquirement of Rare was a big mistake to the gaming industry.
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otherZinc  +   724d ago
The PS4 is the console that has no games.

Where are the ge changers for PS4?

Plants vs Zombies
*TitanFall: The Game Changer
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark

PS4 has:
Infamous Second Son
Infamous Second Son isn't a game changer.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   725d ago
Keep buying more devs and opening more game studios for the one microsoft, we believe in you!!
ABeastNamedTariq  +   725d ago
"we believe in you"......

*implied facepalm*
Eonjay  +   724d ago
You mean higher devs...not buy them. You pay people, you don't purchase them...
AnEwGuY  +   724d ago
You mean hire devs...not higher them. SMH....
Eonjay  +   724d ago
Yes LOL thanks for that.
a08andan  +   724d ago
Higher devs would be awesome :D Who knows what kind of crazy shit would come out of that :D
AnEwGuY  +   724d ago
@ a08andan...

2 words:

Katamari Damacy
Bathyj  +   724d ago
Slavery is bad M'kay?
-Foxtrot  +   725d ago
Sony should swoop in and get some of these guys for NaughtyDog, SuckerPunch or Sony Santa Monica.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   725d ago
Nah they can't afford it
Kayant  +   725d ago
You keep telling yourself that.
Allsystemgamer  +   724d ago
But they could afford to develop a cheaper more powerful console with less restrictions and not have investors wanting them to sell their gaming division.oops. Did I say that?
Skips  +   724d ago

But yea, they obviously can't afford to with the way PS4 is selling (aka smashing the competition into the ground). /s

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Bathyj  +   724d ago
Since when has Sony needing money ever stopped them from spending it on making games? Even ones that arent likely blockbuster sellers.

While another company has all the money in the world and gives so little back.
Ulf  +   724d ago
He's right. You guys realize that like half of Zipper now works for MS on games like Halo, right? And that Halo 4 was a vast improvement over the stuff Bungie had been shoveling after H3?

Sony couldn't afford to keep them, either. I don't see how they could afford to hire a bunch of devs in Boston, given that they have no studios even close to there, and paying for folks to move ain't cheap.
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TheForwardUnto  +   725d ago
Why did you fuel the ongoing Fanboy War?
JasonKCK  +   725d ago
Sony isn't really in a place to go on spending spree's.
GuruMeditation  +   724d ago
They likely already are. The core talent remains with Levine for the new slimline post-'Irrational' entity, while the remaining team will be recieving the standard open - invitations from right across the industry.
DigitalRaptor  +   725d ago
This is great news. Is there an article about how Sony Santa Monica is also ready to accomodate?

Santa Monica has one of the best studio cultures around, so it would be a perfect fit.
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I_am_Batman  +   725d ago
"We want the best of the industry to come work with us on our new IP, and Irrational Games are resident pros at that"

This is great news. Glad the talented people at Irrational get so many great offers.
Bomberman_64  +   724d ago
Get them working at RARE to reboot Perfect Dark
Kiwi66  +   724d ago
Good to see talented people being thought of so quickly they deserve it .
MasterCornholio  +   724d ago
Anyways on a serious note I think its a good thing that they are investing more in their 1st party studios.
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jhoward585  +   724d ago
oh yeah, its definitely a good things MS are investing more in their 1st party studios.

This is good for the gaming industry...the better 1st party games gets the more it motivates 3rd party devs to make better games.

R@D has already accomplish greatness beyond anything we've ever seen and so other devs will do what ever it takes to match it.
kainslayer  +   724d ago
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo not m$ not another rare fiasco go to ea i prefer but not m$ such a waste of good talent.
corvusmd  +   724d ago
Sweet!!! MS is already dominating with the exclusives, and this would push that even further...go for it MS, well done...then buy Nintendo
Unreal01  +   724d ago
What is wrong with you?
nope111  +   724d ago
Oh god no, wasted talent.... Rare all over again.
jgrigs09  +   724d ago
Well.. I hope they land a job with any studio, don't care if it's for an exclusive or not. Good luck to them
Ko_Uraki  +   724d ago
Good move
WeAreLegion  +   724d ago
You mean like every other publisher and developer in the industry?
Nocando  +   724d ago
You know, this article could be about pretty anything MS related and it would turn into the usual lynch mob.
XiSasukeUchiha  +   724d ago
Nice move but in the end we all know why they wanted to work with MS $$$$$$$

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