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Titanfall Dev: 'Don't Buy The Game On Faith', If The Gameplay Isn't Acceptable 'Don't Buy It'

"Despite the overall enthusiasm towards the Titanfall beta, Respawn Entertainment has been fighting an uphill battle to address complains regarding server issues, ping problems, gameplay and more." (PC, TitanFall, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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XiSasukeUchiha  +   724d ago | Well said
A company that understand the consumers and being realistic towards perfences of another individual we need more companies like respawn who understand creative opinions!
come_bom  +   724d ago | Well said
"Titanfall Dev: 'Don't Buy The Game On Faith', If The Gameplay Isn't Acceptable 'Don't Buy It'"

Got to respect the dev that says that.

Haven't played Titanfall yet, but I like what I've seen. It will most likely be a day 1 purchase for me on the PC.
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ManyFishToFry  +   723d ago
Respect? Does that really exist anymore? I suggest this to the team behind the game, start filtering out the lunatics out there. You know who you are.

The game is getting a ton of hype and when that happens comes a wave of those who are either sick of the hype so they try and downplay, or worse are the folks who want it to fail. Likely because either they hate mainstream products like this or they don't like the platforms the game is on or isn't on.
NewMonday  +   723d ago

and then we have gamers who just don't want bots in MP, and other gamers who don't like the small player count.
TheGreatAndPowerful  +   723d ago
The game is alright but I don't think it's going to be a system seller. I've been playing the PC version for a few hours now and I'm already tired of it. It's most definitely not worth $60 but more like $25 maybe $30 max. BF4 demolishes this game in terms of gameplay..hell even COD does that. MS you're in deep sh*t.
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JokesOnYou  +   723d ago
Love it!

Back to Titanfall.
kopicha  +   723d ago

sorry but i played the game. imo while the game is definitely not a bad game. but it wasnt as great as it was being hype up to be. this game dont sell a system. and least it does not do it for me. i seriously think it is being overhyped too much. some times hyping something is good since it helps marketing it. but overhyping something can on the other hand kill it too. since the expectation level would be different.
denawayne  +   723d ago
@TheGreatAndPowerful - Sadly, it will sell systems because of the hype alone. This coming from an Xbox One owner. I played the game and it's not for me so I won't be buying it.
DragonKnight  +   723d ago
Guys, don't listen to ManyFistToFry. He's a duplicate account who comes to N4G to cry about the site in general, me and few others specifically, and you won't have any good discussions with him. His opening is proof enough of that.

Respawn definitely shows some uncharacteristic (from an industry standard, not from themselves) ideals with this statement. Shows they have personal pride in their work and that's always a good thing. EA however probably won't like that sentiment one bit.
H0RSE  +   723d ago

"and then we have gamers who just don't want bots in MP,"

- considering the staggering amount of people that play LoL and other MOBA's, who's "bots" function in a similar way to the AI in Titanfall, I'd have to strongly disagree...

"and other gamers who don't like the small player count."

- which is a minority...the overwhelming positive comments about this game before and after the beta, confirm this.

Small player counts make up virtually every competitive match, regardless of genre. If you are playing a league match, it's going to be a small player count. People who exclaim they don't like the small player count, are likely people who have no experience/knowledge of playing at a competitive level, and the competitive aspect aside, they are also people who apparently don't even have a basic understanding of game design and deliberate design choice. These people can range from casuals to even those who label themselves as "hardcore," who seem to have a one-track mind with a "bigger is better" mindset.

So what I take from your statement is that inexperienced, unknowledgeable, and even ignorant gamers aren't interested in this game, and instead, experienced, open-minded gamers are - I can live with that.
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FriedGoat  +   723d ago
Have you played the game Horse? I've been a competitive fps player since doom m and Titanfall is really a very average game. It's funny because I see a lot of people with the same opinion getting down voted.

The game does not live up to the hype, I just wonder whether it can sell systems on hype alone.
Tiqila  +   723d ago
"Titanfall Dev: 'Don't Buy The Game On Faith', If The Gameplay Isn't Acceptable 'Don't Buy It'"

I would also recommend not to buy it, if the gameplay isnt good. I never bought something unacceptable but often things that did not met my expectations, like a ton of steam sales games.
H0RSE  +   723d ago

"Have you played the game Horse?"

- Yes, I played the beta. Got to the max level.

"I've been a competitive fps player since doom m and Titanfall is really a very average game."

- I never claimed Titanfall was a very comp-focused title. I only bring up the competitive aspect to counter the negativity surrounding the 6v6 aspect of the game. If players are using this in competitive level gaming, a realm where balance is key, then obviously it can work.

"The game does not live up to the hype.."

- purely subjective. I have heard quite a few people claim otherwise. I would say that for the most part, it met peoples expectations, while perhaps not exceeding them.
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mewhy32  +   723d ago
Sounds like the critisim is getting to them somewhat.
Newmanator  +   724d ago
Quite an honest statement to make considering a lot of the purchases are likely to be made in faith in my opinion.
Mikelarry  +   723d ago
atleast if/when some backlash arises they can say but we told you not to. the game looks fun but some media outlet are over hyping the game and as we all know anything that is hyped to this level some gamers/ reviewers are gonna look for the slightest fault to B&%^* about
mhunterjr  +   723d ago
When they are holding an open beta, there's little reason to make a purchase on faith alone...
rodiabloalmeida  +   723d ago
I was about to say the same thing. They got my respect. I'm not buying the game 'cos I really suck at First Person Shootters, but even so they got my respect with this attitude. I'll look into future games from this dev for sure.
TopDudeMan  +   723d ago
It is good that they're confident that their product is good. They don't feel the need to hype it. They're letting the game speak for itself.
Biggest  +   723d ago
I take it that you've been in a coma since Titanfall was announced. That's the only way you could think they haven't been hyping this game to kingdom come.
Salooh  +   723d ago
They are great. They just need to evolve some other stuff. Maybe the budget and the team they have isn't that big so they just focused on gameplay. Anyway, if it comes to ps4 i will buy it day one. They deserve it for giving us a masterpiece (MW1). I just got the beta code for pc. My brother will try it and tell me what he think :P .
ITPython  +   723d ago
Not to nitpick, but it's referenced as COD4, not MW1. MW2 is referenced as MW2... but COD4 should always be COD4, not MW1.

I know, ridiculous thing to correct somebody on, but as a vet COD4 player it is almost insulting to hear it referenced as MW1, since MW2 was the beginning of the end for the COD series. Whereas COD4 stood alone and redefined the FPS online experienced forever. MW2 just rode on the co-tails of COD4 and taught the FPS world about overpowered everything... of which every COD since has been plagued with.

COD4 stands alone and has no match. Tying it to MW2 (even though it was the same devs) is the equivalent of spitting on COD4's grave.
Salooh  +   723d ago
Agree. I wish if they make an hd version of the game for the ps4 ,that would be better then making 10 call of duty games
thezeldadoth  +   723d ago
the first day of the beta i was enjoying it a lot. This morning its been pretty awful. The server lag is terrible, to me it looks like a guy came around the corner and downed me in a split second, but on the kill cam it clearly shows that he had been around the corner and unloaded his entire clip long before it registered to me.
Secondly, the smart pistol is game breaking and needs to go. its pathetic when you see a kill cam that a guy didn't even try to aim at you, his gun was 45 degree angle away from you and he pulls the trigger and the gun locks onto your head and kills you. Its the other way around too, i've used it and its a pathetic weapon

will probably cancel my pre-order and get south park rpg instead
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lsujester  +   723d ago
The extra people coming in definitely hurt the experience. Once it went open, the lag start climbing up considerably.

And the smart pistol is by no means game-breaking. It takes several seconds to lock onto another pilot, more than enough time for him to kill you with an SMG, Carbine, etc. Run into a room with a shotgunner and see if you live long enough to lock-on.

Honestly, it's a good starter weapon, especially against bots. Against pilots, it's considerably more effective if the target doesn't know you're there, but he's likely just as dead if you're carrying another weapon.
LoveOfTheGame  +   723d ago
Yeah, if anything my friends and I laugh at anyone using the smart pistol, because they will always be the bottom of the scoreboard.

It is by no way groundbreaking, and other then killing grunts quickly it has no redeeming qualities. A gun that takes almost 2 secs to lock on to a pilot for the kill is just pathetic. I assume playing against ppl with regular weapons I have less time than that or I'm dead.
Sayai jin  +   723d ago
Two words comes to mind...Confidence....Honest!
dsswoosh  +   723d ago
Textures on the xb1 look great.

Cboat is a proven filthy neogaf liar.
DoubleM70  +   723d ago
Yep I took pictures of it and the Beta looks great of TitanFall. I even put them in my face book group. I was playing on my 720P TV. Textures nice and crisp. Haven't even put it on my 1080P Samsung yet.
alejandroelputo  +   723d ago
good comment sasuke dude
ITPython  +   723d ago
Sounds like respawn is a PS4 dev at heart, shame they have to wait it out until Titanfall 2 to actually become one.
Kribwalker  +   723d ago
They are just trying to get the trolls to shut up. I personally think it's fantastic
lifeisgamesok  +   724d ago
It seems like the general consensus is that this game is very fun

At least from Alpha/beta players
OrangePowerz  +   724d ago
It's ok, I got bored rather quick by the cannon fodder AI running around that is no challenge at all to kill. I would have preferred to have just humans vs. humans. It's fun to fight against a real person, but the AI makes it less enjoyable for me when playing competitive.
Bigpappy  +   723d ago
Like the man said. This game is obviously not for you. If he makes it the way you want. Then that would cause someone else to complain. I believe in developers making the game they envision and only change what they agree would make the game better. They are the one who have to spend months on balancing. If they read your opinion and do not want to make that change, you should just move on.

I can't get out of Cuba in Assassins Creed 4, I had the game for over a month. It just is unappealing to me. But I don't beat up on that game.

Games are made to be fun, not realistic. The bots are not there to challenge. You are to kill pilots and titans for your challenge.
TRD4L1fe  +   723d ago
and to me the AI adds to the excitment, and not once did i get bored playing it
creeping judas  +   723d ago
The AI makes me feel like a FPS champion! Which I am not even close to being.
MorePowerOfGreen  +   723d ago

He said "At least from Alpha/beta players"

I have not heard lots of people complain about it. People know the point of the beta was to try and break the servers. Perhaps Vince was talking to the rabid PS fanboy trolls.
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curtis92  +   724d ago
I've played the beta a couple hours now and I honestly don't get the hype. The titans are perhaps my least favorite thing about it. I think I'd enjoy it more if it was just a more acrobatic COD, honestly. The titans just feel like you're a big, slow behemoth.
J_Cob  +   723d ago
There is a quick and nimble Titan in the full game. It's just not in the Beta. I think the one available is the medium chassis.
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thezeldadoth  +   723d ago
i would enjoy it more if it was only the pilots
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   724d ago
The game is a blast. I see people have issues with the bots. Yeah, they could be more challenging, but I never really run into them cause I'm always moving up on top of the buildings. If you're on the ground just shooting bots, you aren't going to win the game and get picked off from people like me who are up top.
thekhurg  +   723d ago
Every game I've been in I've averaged around 7-8 player kills and 13+ grunt kills, with 1-2 titan kills.

Rarely have I seen players with higher player to grunt kill ratios unless they avoided grunts all together and just killed 5-10 players per round.

Sorry, but that's just not enough player to player fighting for me. I'm glad I got into the beta though, it allowed me to see basically everything I needed to see regarding the game, and I can make an informed decision when the game launches.
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Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   723d ago

I typically get more bots kills than human kills to cause I shoot anything that moves on the ground, but I have plenty of pilot vs pilot battles to settle my competitive needs. How many Titan kills do you average? I average around 3 a game, so that adds even more to my competitive needs blowing up their Titans.


The game is "unbalanced" when you add in more players. I don't see why people, like you, have such a hard time understanding that. They tested the game with up to 12v12 and 6v6 was the best. The bots weren't just added in after testing it out and finding that 6v6 was the perfect balance and they needed bots to fill in the battlefield. The bots have been in the game since it was revealed back at E3.
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Salooh  +   723d ago
No need to defend it. AI shouldn't be there. More real players would have made this game a blast. I hope they hear this feedback and add more players in titanfall2 (which hopefully come to the ps4) and remove that AI or make it optional. I want skilful gameplay , i don't want anything about noobs. Respawn team can do it.

My average kill in Mw1 (TDM) is 30kills.
Good players average kill is 20kills

So i want that action , i don't want luck(finding real players) to determine my gameplay.
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Bernlock  +   723d ago
Hahaha is average kills in mw4 was 30!!! Clearly we are dealing with a badass here
Salooh  +   723d ago
I don't care what's there reason. AI sucks , They are so easy and you kill them more then real players. I don't want them in the game. It's unbalanced if you add more player and it's empty and too big maps if you remove them , that's your logic , i don't think you know what's balancing mean.
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   723d ago

I think you need to read my comment to you over again.

"The bots weren't just added in after testing it out and finding that 6v6 was the perfect balance and they needed bots to fill in the battlefield."

I never said the bots were needed to fill the battlefield. I think you need to get better at your reading comprehension.
aiBreeze  +   724d ago
It's very fun if you go in with the right expectations. I started playing yesterday at about 3pm, with a few small breaks in between, was playing until around 1am and would have stayed on longer if my friends didn't go off.
PsylentKiller  +   723d ago
The game is extremely fun. For me, the hype is real. The people that don't want the bots, get 12 people and play a game with no one calling in titans and see how it plays out. Also, try not to shoot bots, if you can, only shoot at enemies with a Gamertag above their head.

I like the bots. They fit this game. If it was just regular 6v6, the maps would be half empty. For an example of scale, play 6v6 or even 12v12 in BF4 on Caspian Border or another large map.

If you play this game like CoD, you won't enjoy it as much or maybe not at all. Play it like its Titanfall and you'll see a big difference. Do you play Gears of War like its Call of Duty? Do you play BF4 like you'd play CoD?
Galletto3  +   723d ago
Where are you seeing these beta players saying the game isnt fun?

The beta is a blast so far. Bots are a negligible issue, unlike what many are lamenting about. You will get more player kills than bots (at least every game Ive played so far all players had more pilot than bot kills).

Speaking of the low amount of players, the balance is perfect with 6v6, especially when you have around 6-7 titans running around the battlefield. Anymore and it would just be too chaotic, and not very fun. You would be dying left and right over cheap kills, and would not have a chance for a titan as often.

To be honest, anyone who still says this is a COD rip off with mechs has not played it or actually given it a chance.
Sayai jin  +   723d ago
I am thoroughly enjoying the beta. I am not a COD fan or BF fan so people who are comparing it to those I don't see it that way. The game gets a good rush out of you.
just-joe  +   723d ago
I don't know, all I've been hearing is people bitching that it's COD with mechs. Personally, I'm having fun with the game.
Summons75  +   724d ago
Bold statement, very respectful for a dev to say something so challenging....however if sales aren't as expected I'm not going to be surprised when they blame consumers for not buying the game when they told us don't buy it if we don't think it's acceptable.
Bigpappy  +   723d ago
They might just say that the game was judgment error on their part. You don't know that they would blame gamers. The great thing about them is that they put this Beta out there on a pretty large scale, and they had no restrictions on what can be shown and said. So those who do buy it have a very good idea what they are paying for.
Summons75  +   723d ago
It's only opened up recently but they were pretty resistant when gamers were criticising the how they handled the AI situation. They kept claiming they were right and it's clear now after the beta that the AI is exactly what gamers feared, easy kills and a hinderance to the gameplay. Sure I don't know for sure that they will blame gamers but they seemed high and mighty when the AI situation was revealed so that gets me wary plus the fact that it feels like Call of Duty in it's gameplay and it's only bringing in robots to make it different which is pretty lazy on their part.
k2d  +   723d ago
This way they won't have to worry about that. If someone don't like the game the first time they still might like their next game. Example: When I got tired of Assassins creed, I waited until AC4 Black Flag - I'm glad I did.
OldDude  +   723d ago

Clearly you have no idea why the bots are in the game, or you just haven't played it.
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Summons75  +   723d ago
They're there to "make the game easier" for casuals as long as fill in the maps because you're playing a cod sized match in a oversized map, oh and story fodder.

Either way no good reason why they are there.
Activemessiah  +   724d ago
Fair enough.
Mkai28  +   724d ago
For gamers that don't want to see companies fail, Respawn decided to put the beta up for everyone on Xbox one.. Not sure on PC..

Concerning the article: maybe they are just that confident?
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christocolus  +   724d ago
Nice..Vince has a lot of confidence in his work, nice statement.. The feedback so far has been really positive,and most online issues are being resolved, those who still have issues with the game or keep looking for flaws do not have to buy it really.

finally got to try it out at a friends place and i was hooked. The game is really fun and very addictive .
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SwiftArsonist  +   724d ago
the feedback has been positive, its people taking stuff out of context to make the game/system look bad. stealth advertising my friends!
djplonker  +   724d ago
I read this as lower your expectations this game has been hyped up for too long and dissapointment is inevitable!

I will install the beta on my pc when it opens up because it would be unfair for not to try it but from what I have seen I think I will play demon souls until south park dark souls 2 and infamous ss come out...
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GodGinrai  +   724d ago
Loving the beta. I still would like a higher player count though,and the AI isnt paticularly great, but the game is awesome!
Allsystemgamer  +   723d ago
I just wish the AI was smarter. They literally half to time don't even fire at you.
Darkspade  +   723d ago
Then How about allowing returns on their games.. must people that will buy TitanFall weren't in the Beta
Mini0510  +   723d ago
I got extra beta code, you want it?
Darkspade  +   723d ago
Thank you, but i'm in the beta
OldDude  +   723d ago
I would enjoy it if it is for the PC
B1uBurneR  +   723d ago
I think these dev, they just earned my respect with that quote. I know people that blindly buy games just off the names itself. The reason for demos is to test it out first before you actually buy it. Thanks for Demo most games I've bought or not has helped
Father__Merrin  +   723d ago
you know the game is in trouble if the dev says don't buy it

Mikelarry  +   723d ago
oh no you didnt.... brace yourself
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bleedsoe9mm  +   723d ago
there is a small vocal nasty segment of gamers that are automatically hostel to any dev that has any kind exclusive deals with ms . they are so entitled that they think because they choose the ps4 every game should be available there .
djplonker  +   723d ago
You talk like its an xbone exclusive lol...

I hate it because its Ea and the people who brought you the cod series and thats all this is ANOTHER COD and any reason not to have to install origin on my pc is always a good one ;)
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bleedsoe9mm  +   723d ago
in ms and sony's eyes it is an exclusive since neither care about pc , sony has a bunch of indie console exclusives . maybe in a few years they'll start looking at steam (or others)as direct competition but not yet .
mr233  +   723d ago
Well said. That is why I bought both systems. I have several children who are gamers. Two love the Kinect for the dance games etc. and like the Xbox exclusives, my oldest can't wait for Infamous Second Son. (When they are sleeping it's my turn to have the best of both worlds.)

A lot of gamers here have become Divas. If it isn't on "their" system the game sucks.
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styferion  +   723d ago
The gameplay is acceptable, the developers great, the publisher isn't.
Tomden02  +   723d ago
The ps4 killer
Allsystemgamer  +   723d ago
Not really. It's good. But it's not THAT good.
mr233  +   723d ago
I got into the Beta yesterday and I have had no connection issues. The game is really fun, but it took me a while to be even competitive. I like that Respawn has enough faith in their product to not only have a Beta, but to open it up.
MCTJim  +   723d ago
This game is a breath of fresh air. Honestly it is. The alpha was great, but the beta is even better. The improvements from one to the other have been outstanding. This game play with the familiar CoD controls with a few additions. It well balanced and fun to play. I've only played attrition and last titan standing so far. One is like TDM and the other is like S&D. The game is outstandingly fun to play. I have not been hyped or excited for a game in a long time. I've fallen into hey BF or CoD comes out in November...This game is what those franchises wish they were before just being rehashed into a yearly cycle..albeit BF. If you dont have an XBox one, you have to play it on PC. This game is pure entertainment from start to finish. Its very well balanced and since most of us are used to the controls, you will find it very familiar in the scheme of things.
PsylentKiller  +   723d ago
The controls, by default, are almost identical to CoD. But I tried out Bumper Jumper and liked it but then I tried Bumper Jumper Pilot and found that is the most optimal control scheme. It makes it so much easier to bounce off walls and onto rooftops.

Attrition is my favorite mode so far even if it's a bit short. hard point is OK, probably because I haven't gotten in with people that use mics. Last Titan standing is really cool but it sucks that you could still be alive but if all your titans fall then you lose the round anyways. I guess that's because they don't want the rounds to go on the full length of time just because some tard wants to hide the rest of the match.

I'm maxed out at level 14 but I do hope they wipe the progression of players. Fairness is a good reason to do that but I want it wiped because I want to unlock everything again; start fresh even though I've been playing really well.
jay2  +   723d ago
Well, I'm not too sure on this, I'm in the BETA and it's ok, would I pay £40-50 for it? NO. £20 more likely.
djplonker  +   723d ago
Whoa dont come here and tell all these deluded fanboys there game sucks because this! is all they have until kinect sports lands XD

I will stick to my ps3/4 and pc setup and aviod this game and origin like the plague
jay2  +   723d ago
Good man high 5. Yeah Origin currently hates me thats why I'm here. I'll get the game waiting for a price cut though.
BX81  +   723d ago
Can we hang out and troll every Titanfall article together..... Please?
DoubleM70  +   723d ago
Sorry Djplonker

The game is HOTT! I love it.
kewlkat007  +   723d ago
I've never heard a developer say that.

Lots of respect..
MegaRay  +   723d ago
"We want it to flop so we can laugh at EA"

That what I would of want if some company make deals about my game behind my back, EAss!
PsylentKiller  +   723d ago
Respawn may look to either sue EA or agree to a settlement for the damage they may have caused by that underhanded deal they made with MS. MS may be liable too. They don't want to do anything now because it may negatively affect he image and sales of their game.
In 6 months to a year, you may hear some grumblings about a lawsuit involving these companies. Maybe the shareholders will sue EA again. It was really sneaky of EA to do what they did. Respawn and Titanfall are independent of EA. They are under the EA partners program. EA probably knew that Respawn would say no and that that it would be too late for Respawn to do anything after the fact.
gamer2013  +   723d ago
Get over it.
mochachino  +   723d ago
I thought the MS servers eliminated these problems?

And was necessary for AI
jay2  +   723d ago
No bud, trust me on that 1, I'm having server issues and the AI's standard.
MCTJim  +   723d ago
I have not had any server issues at all except for when they shut them down to fix the dynamic expansion issue. Everything has been real smooth. No lag at all.

If your having ping issues, change your location to something closer
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Stoppokingme  +   723d ago's an M$ exclusive! they were paid to say that...yeah that's what it was, they were paid to say that.

It's a good and valid statement and one that should be heeded. You don't like the way a game plays or what resolution it runs at, don't buy it, simple as that.

However I won't be buying it because it's not a game that I'm even remotely interested in, not because how it looks or how it plays, it's just not my cup of tea.
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MCTJim  +   723d ago
and I sir, can respect that :D
parentsbasement  +   723d ago
Damn , I had a beta code all along and forgot which email I gave them.....played a little this morning and liked it , I don't really care what or who I shoot as long as its fun, it was for people that live for their KDR and take games way too serious probably wont like it, fortunately , they are a small minority....
lonewolfjedi  +   723d ago
Even the devs know the game is overhyped. Gotta respect that.
DoubleM70  +   723d ago
No way kid. Believe the HyPe played all day Saturday and Sunday. I felt like I was playing back on live in the early days of Live. Lots of fun people talking and haven a great time.
GraveLord  +   723d ago
There's a beta out there for you guys to try. No reason for you not to try before you buy.
LostPotato  +   723d ago
I've played it and agree with with the developer.

I also think people need to accept others will not like the same things you do.
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DJustinUNCHAIND  +   723d ago
Those who focus on the AI are playing the game wrong.
PsylentKiller  +   723d ago
Agree and bubble up for you. I've tried to say this plenty of times but, you sir, have put it so eloquently and blunt.
Mexxan  +   723d ago
Fix the damn screen tearing and I'm sold!
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