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The Removal of the Hated Xbox One Sharpening Filter Comes at the Price of Texture Detail

When the Xbox One February update removed the much reviled sharpening filter that interfered with antialiasing and created jaggies and artifacts on games upscaled to 1080p from a lower resolution was welcomed by many as a very positive change, and it definitely is, yet it comes at a price.

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ShugaCane862d ago

I could say a lot of bad things about Microsoft, but honestly those are details I wouldn't even have noticed lol. Games still look a lot better now that before the update, imo.

The_Infected862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

I think it should've just been on PS4 also then we'd have a better console version without all these sacrifices made because of Xbox One. Also people could play it on consoles for $100 less. But It's EA and Microsoft so money talks right?

b00mFargl3862d ago

Having it on ps4 wouldn't make a better version. It's on pc as well with the same overall scope and comparable visuals. PS4 may look closer to the pc but you can barely tell as is between x1 and pc.

Angainor7861d ago

you will never play titanfall on your ps4 my friend. Microsoft already spent so much money to this IP, so most probably will buy it just like Gears. But don't worry, you still have your indies..

The_Infected861d ago (Edited 861d ago )

@Angainor7

I've got a Xbox One "although I'll probably sell it" and I'm playing Titanfall:)

You think indies are all PS4 has? Lol what about Driveclub, The Order: 1886, Uncharted PS4, Infamous: Second Son, SSM new game, GG new game etc. oh and all those indies also. Looks like PS4 has the best of both worlds:)

nukeitall861d ago

If this was on the PS4, you would get better visuals but really crappy online connectivity and downgraded experience due to the lack of dedicated server.

Remember, Respawn went both to MS and Sony asking for a solution to their nagging cloud problem, and only one company had the resources and the motivation to meet the server needs. Namely MS!

Graphics is overrated, and game play is what makes me play a game over and over and over. Until this day, I still play StarCraft and Ninja Gaiden Black!

You can stare at graphics, and I will play the games!

Besides, we are getting to the point of diminishing returns on graphics anyhow.

Omegasyde861d ago

PS4 fans need to accept that Titanfall isn't going to be on PS4.

Just like Uncharted 4, starhawk mmo, and Planetside 2 will not be on Xbox One.

stuna1861d ago (Edited 861d ago )

@Angainor7

You're more than likely right about the first installment of TitanFall not appearing on the PS4, but at this point in time it's unbelievably shortsighted to even speculate that if there are any chances of a sequel being made that it wouldn't become an automatic top priority that it be released on the PS4!

Right now EA and Respawn are probably smashing their heads into brick walls, steel doors, and glass tables! Anything that could cause blunt trauma to their inflated ego's.

You see EA and more than likely Microsoft where possibly under the impression that the PS4 was going to be the underdog coming into this generation! Microsoft was also quoted to say they were going to kill Sony this generation! I don't know if they meant Sony as a company or, the console that they offered. Anyway, as for the console that's not looking very likely!

Making a deal to buy the TitanFall ip flat out is probably not even an option for Microsoft at this point, because just as you and I see the sells and demand for the PS4, the whole world sees it, but most importantly the developers see it! And believe me, they all want a piece of that pie that is the PS4.

DragonKnight861d ago

@nukeitall: "If this was on the PS4, you would get better visuals but really crappy online connectivity and downgraded experience due to the lack of dedicated server."

LMAO! You keep believing that nuke, keep the dream alive. It's not like Sony's been using dedicated servers for 8 years now.

zeuanimals861d ago (Edited 861d ago )

@Nukeitall

You do know the 360 and PC don't have access to those dedicated servers, right? Only the X1 has access to them and somehow Respawn are supposed to make the game work on both of those platforms as well without the Cloud...

PC also doesn't have MS's server capabilities and so it shouldn't be able to run on there either, right?

The PS3 actually had more games that ran on dedicated servers. Even way back in 2007 with Warhawk. The 360's only exclusive with dedicated servers was Gears of War Judgement, every other game was a multi-plat like the Battlefield games. So... Sony lacks dedicated servers and MS doesn't. We still haven't seen many games use the Cloud or MS's dedicated servers.

H0RSE861d ago (Edited 861d ago )

I keep hearing this talk of the PS4 version of games being the "better" version. Not only is this a vague statement, it is also not accurate as to what is being implied, and also subjective.

People need to choose their words more carefully and say what they mean, which would be claiming that the PS4 version would be the the better LOOKING version, which is also subjective.

The "better" version of a game, is the one a player prefers, regardless of reasons. I own a high-end PC and an X1, and I say the X1 version is the better of the two, because that is the one where I can play with my friends, and thus, the version that will grant me the better overall experience.

@zeuanimals

"You do know the 360 and PC don't have access to those dedicated servers, right? Only the X1 has access to them and somehow Respawn are supposed to make the game work on both of those platforms as well without the Cloud..."

- you are flatout wrong:

http://www.respawn.com/news...

"Microsoft has a cloud service called Azure (it’s a real thing – you can go on their website right now and pay for servers and use them to run whatever you want). Microsoft realized that they could use that technology to solve our problem.

So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go. We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And they’ll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

Did you catch that last line -

"Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

arkard861d ago

Did you catch the words used in that last line? "Dedicated servers" not cloud based computing. The 360 is not and will not use Azure for more than hosting.

cozomel861d ago

Sony had dedicated servers all last gen, and fanboys didnt care, now suddenly when MS is talking about using them more, than suddenly they matter. Xbox fanboys only care about something when their corporate overlord is doing it. And listen to them whine about how graphics dont matter. Then why spend $5oo on a disappointing system for when they have their 360s? Its all bs and they know it. MS let y'all down

H0RSE861d ago

@arkard

"Did you catch the words used in that last line? "Dedicated servers" not cloud based computing. The 360 is not and will not use Azure for more than hosting."

- which is completely irrelevant...

I was responding to zeuanimal's claim:

"You do know the 360 and PC don't have access to those dedicated servers, right? Only the X1 has access to them and somehow Respawn are supposed to make the game work on both of those platforms as well without the Cloud..."

Let's break this down Barney style so you understand it:

- He is claiming that 360 and PC don't have access to MS's dedicated servers, which is obviously false, since a Respawn dev confirmed it:

"Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

- Not only does that confirm that the 360 and PC versions will in fact have dedicated servers, but his claim of "somehow Respawn are supposed to make the game work on both of those platforms as well without the Cloud," is also debunked since they are in fact using MS's Cloud for those servers.

- You injecting talk about cloud-based computing, has absolutely nothing to do with discussion. The topic was on dedicated servers (or lack of) which I clearly disproved, with a source.

ITPython861d ago

@Nuke- lol, from what I remember, every exclusive PS3 game has had dedicated servers. Even Resistance Fall of Man had dedicated servers, and it was a PS3 launch title. Games that didn't were some multiplat ones like COD, which ran p2p.

As far as dedicated servers for online games go, Sony's track record speaks for itself. So please, stop trying to use that as XB1 'victory' ammo.

I know you guys are reaching for straws, but at least do some research before claiming victory in a battle you lost years ago. There is absolutely no doubt that if TF was on PS4, PS3 and PC, BOTH PS3 and the PS4 would be getting dedicated servers. Not sure about PC, I know things tend to work differently in that universe as people pride themselves on hosting servers of their own.

ShinMaster861d ago (Edited 861d ago )

You can see white outlines with the sharpening filter. You can get the same effect by adjusting the sharpness on you TV anyway.

I don't think it needs it.

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DeathOfTheFanBoy862d ago

I honestly can't tell the difference, I have a 40" Samsung, it looked fine before as it does now.

Might fire up Ryse and see if I notice anything but I'm pretty sure I wont.

Baka-akaB862d ago

You would never notice a change in Ryse . Crytek already disabled the MS filter to apply their own .

Basically it was never there for Ryse

medman861d ago

"Might fire up Ryse"...you do that. If you had any sense whatsoever, you'd throw that hunk of garbage they call a game into a fireplace...that would fire it up nicely.

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dsswoosh861d ago

A new low from n4g and neogaf liars.

99% of xb1 owners know nothing about this. The picture was great before and it is great now.

I cant see any difference in any of my games. Whatever people are talking about in this article it wasn't hated or even a slight problem.

die_fiend861d ago

Graphics looked really jaggy before and now look slightly less laggy. If this is xbone's exclusive graphics, I'm glad I jumped ship. All of my ps3 games look better than this

medman861d ago

People keep on making excuses for the xbone, and that makes me chuckle. If you have to explain away all the problems that system is having, you're part of the problem. Dat bone takes one step forward, and two steps back. Only the deaf, dumb, and/or blind would pay good money for an inferior, overpriced, lackluster xbone. Dat bone will be behind this entire generation. Enjoy.

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Chaostar862d ago

I'm not sure which is worse :S

I love high texture details but hate too many jaggies, somewhere in between these two would have been better imo.

Bathyj862d ago

Yeah, seems like they just cant get the balance right.

s8anicslayer862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

Although the game play is there, the graphics engine is so last gen, I pre ordered the game bought the Titanfall XBOX One controller and I'm playing the beta and enjoying it all, However I can't wait to see this year's iteration of MW since the devs are building it with next gen graphics enhancements with hopefully new features maybe vehicular combat implemented like BY and Titanfall.

hkgamer862d ago

@s8anicslayer

MW? as mean modern warfare? I don't think there will be anymore MW, infinity ward(or whats left of it) made Ghost. A new team will make the new COD and then treyarch will make Black Ops. COD turned into a 3 team francihse. Think the extra year of dev time could help the COD series.

CharlesSwann862d ago

There is no in-between. You always have to sacrifice when up-scaling to in indivisible resolution. That is why 1:1 in resolution is so damn important.

XiSasukeUchiha862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

Like i thought this was going to happen (losing detail, less power all for $500)

Mexxan862d ago

Simple, just give us the option.

MegaRay862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

We have a genius here.... we dont have much on n4g

OT "kinda": its a bad time to be an xbox fanboy and a good time to be a PS fanboy lol (no offence intended)

hduce861d ago

Its never a good time to be a fanboy.

kickerz861d ago

Well why are you in this Titanfall article then. Go play knack already

Baka-akaB862d ago

The option is literally on most TV settings .

Mexxan862d ago

Of course. But it seems to be do or die on most X1 stories lately. I on a Ps4 but considering an X1 too

OrangePowerz862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

There is always a tradeoff when a picture is upscalled. I think it was the better decision to remove the sharpening because it sharpened too much or they could have reduced the effect to have it somewhere between the two.

shivvy24862d ago

Either somewhere between the 2 or they could just give us an option to turn it on/off or scale it

Baka-akaB862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

I dont see the point of adding it as an option . It's already there on any HDTV . Those wanting it can fiddle with the default sharpness of their screen and usually always have access to some fancy named BS post processing effect affecting sharpness and contrast