Konami and Kojima Productions are holding a Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes boot camp in Nasu, a lovely hot springs town in Japan’s Tochigi prefecture, and more impressions are filtering from attendees via Twitter.
Lol nice comment. "Fine" I have to see for myself whenever they show it.
Yeah, noticed that as well. At least he's working hard at optimizing both versions.
He's working hard on optimizing the PS4 version. He's working "fine" on optimizing the Xbox One version.
@kendrickLamar Not Kojima's fault he is limited by the performance of the xbox one. Also tough luck at the grammys, got to admit R.A.M. is good
@kendrick Should be reversed, He's working "fine" on optimizing the PS4 version. He's working "hard" on optimizing the Xbox One version. What could be better than "less work=max output"?
"Get Ground Zeroes on PS4, not XB1. Way better visuals, frame rate, everything… I believe @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN said so himself." Its saying something when its said to get the game on PS4, not the xb1. Could this end up being a issue for xb1 when buying multiplats? Even Kojima eluding to it as well? .Interesting.
The comments I read from Kojima make me believe he isn't doing his best to dev the xb1 version. They say every one has a price. I wonder if he feels like he sold out his loyal fans by deving for MS. Money talks but when you become ( disloyal) in your mind it's tough to deal with.
Plastic and others... I really hope u realize that's not the real Kendrick. Of course the ps4 version is going to look better.
Gotta love how Kojima is honest as they come with what he says. He was the one to let the world know he was happy to work on 360 last gen to upset ps3 fanboys and now he's telling people the xbone version is inferior. Of course Konami aren't gonna be happy with him but they can't exactly fire him..
There are no doubts about the PS4 version being better while questions surface from attendees as regards the X1 version. Examples: https://twitter.com/Douglas... https://twitter.com/Crunch_...
It should be easy to optimize a 2 hour game lol
Lmao I love how Kojima isn't sugar coating anything. People ask him about comparisons and he just gives direct answers with no PR guy over his shoulder trying to get him to talk parity. It's really funny.
If it was the other the way around people would hate him.
^If it was the other way around it would be illogical and inexcusable.
I thought he said both versions are about the same. Wouldnt blame him for hyping the PS4 version, PS fans need to be entitled for something right. Just look at how they treat them for going multiplat. Do Xbox fans get mad about Bungie going multiplat? Not that I know of.
Lol ,.. It is quite entertaining ,.. Love the honesty in people,.. I am sure both versions will look amazing,.. PS4 is just more powerful machine,.. so better IQ by default.
I was wondering how he gets by with it, what with all the NDAs and all. I guess MS knows he'll go exclusive at the drop of a hat if they say anything. Kojima has always been a Sony guy, I know Metal Gear is multi-platform now, but MGS4 has PS3s and PS3 controllers lying around in the game. He's a brand guy for sure as Apple and Triumph (motorcycles for those of you who might not know) were also featured in the game. There might have been more but its been a while since I played it. Also, I guess the 'parity' argument just is not panning out this gen as expected. Last gen it was easy to hold back one platform a little to achieve parity, but this gen everyone and their brother would know the devs are gimping one version to do that.
The average n4g user is putting their hands in their pants now *unzip.* ;et me ask an important question though...how's the gameplay coming along?
The gameplay looks fantastic from the demos we have seen
Its metal gear... Its got the gameplay.
I smell a meme.
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I've said and I'll say it again. Microsoft seriously fu**ed up with the X1. At this moment the difference (power, graphics) between the X1 and PS4 is just too big to ignore. It's inadmissible for a more expensive console. One other thing is Kojima, everybody knows he's a Sony fanboy, and he, or his team, most likely didn't put too much effort on the X1 version.
"One other thing is Kojima, everybody knows he's a Sony fanboy, and he, or his team, most likely didn't put too much effort on the X1 version." That's a ridiculous statement. Even if a dev has a favorite platform they're still going to make the best product they can on all platforms because it's ultimately all about the almighty dollar.
@Rockstar Humm... i guess you don't remember the PS3 early days, where multiplat games looked and played worse on the PS3 then the X360 version. Only after many complaints of PS3 gamers, multiplat developers start putting more effort on PS3 multiplat games. Until now Kojima has been quite unprofessional for a 3rd party developer, in relation to this generation of consoles. Do you really think Kojima and his team put much effort on the X1 version of the game ? Kojima's recent comments make me believe otherwise. In all honesty, if I had a X1, i would never purchase this game for it, just like i didn't purchase many PS3 multiplat games because they were the worse version. I don't support lazy developers.
95% of the time, Kojima speaks about the PS4 and the PS4 version of the game. It seems to me that he doesn't give much thought about other console versions. Maybe somebody should tell Kojima that there are other console versions of the game beside the PS4. Apparently he doesn't know that.
So the new excuse is Kijoma is a Sony fanboy and that's why it looks better on PS4.... How many excuses are we going to see this gen from the MS fanboys that help them justify why multiplats look worse on the XB1? So with your logic, all the crystal dynamics devs are Sony fanboys because of how Tomb Raider turned out? Or the CoD devs or the Battlefield devs? How about Ubisoft with AC:BF? Looks like all devs are Sony fanboys with your logic. You're right... All devs are Sony fanboys... Has nothing to do with the XB1's lower specs Edit: I reread your comment a few times and although your wording doesn't exactly make you sound like a fanboy, your calling Kijoma a fanboy is exactly the type of reasoning that fanboys use/ will use in the future.
I rike metar geal.
Like last gen I didnt buy bad ported games on PS3 this gen Im not buying on Xbox 1.
@come_bom "Humm... i guess you don't remember the PS3 early days, where multiplat games looked and played worse on the PS3 then the X360 version. Only after many complaints of PS3 gamers, multiplat developers start putting more effort on PS3 multiplat games. Until now Kojima has been quite unprofessional for a 3rd party developer, in relation to this generation of consoles. Do you really think Kojima and his team put much effort on the X1 version of the game ? Kojima's recent comments make me believe otherwise. In all honesty, if I had a X1, i would never purchase this game for it, just like i didn't purchase many PS3 multiplat games because they were the worse version. I don't support lazy developers." Are you really , going to sit there and try to claim Kojima is not trying to put in as much effort into the xboxone as he is the PS4? I mean really? Look Kojima's work ethic is well known to really, push what ever platform he works on he does not go about and try to gimp one ver over the other, that is not how he has been in the past and i doubt very much , that is how he is today. Kojima is a perfectionist. and his work shows it! That's like Telling John Carmack last generation he was being a fanboy about how hard it was to get better results on the PS3 over the xbox360. John was not sugar coating it, and i very much doubt Kojima is also niot sugar coating it. when he say's fine, Kojima's fine is pretty [email protected] High in quality you can take that to the bank! I would take his claim of "fine" to be pretty [email protected] good, the fact that he states that the PS4 is a better hardware platform, is i doubt being lip service to one company over the other, its based on his experience with both platforms. Kojima would have even wanted to put Metal Gear solid 4 on the xbox360, but he also gave reasons why it was not put on the xbox360. All last cycle many gamer's claimed , well he could cut out all those cut scene's and make it a game, but that's not the point, yes he could do that but it would not have been Metal Gear solid 4 than would it? Kojima is straight up when he does interviews, many time he shows up at events for Microsoft just as much if not more than he does for Sony. So saying he is not putting in that much effort in on the xboxone, is saying that kojima "cutting corners" on his development on the microsoft xboxone platform is very doubtful, because kojima is or has never been known to on any metal gear project he works on have been known to be "cutting corners" With Metal Gear as a franchise! its his baby @ Konami Hell its his creation, and he does not like it when its not up to his standards. When he said one of his games are coming along "fine" HE MEANS IT!
This is going to be a common trend.
Metal Gear is meant to be played on a playstation anyway
So true, I'm surprised this isn't exclusive but business is about making money.
Agreed. Well, Nintendo too as it debuted with them. Hideo is prob working on the PS4 version and has a separate team just porting it over xbone. I will be buying both new games, no matter the cost or duration.
Double Fine. :)
It's like MGSV on the Xbox One is one of those women comedians always use in jokes. Journalist to MGSV through bathroom door: "How you looking today sweetie?" MGSV looking in mirror with sulking face: FINE ALRIGHT?! I LOOK FINE!
MGSV Ground Zeros: Fine Edition Exclusive on Xbox One. ROFL
Not fine...It's the more expensive console. SMH
$100 more, yet significantly weaker? That's just bizarre. Microsoft is ripping off XBone buyers.
Still not better looking than Ryse, so...
Stevie wonder is that you?
Well that thing runs at 900p/18fps so it's easy to make pretty.
MGSV <- Open world game. Ryse <- Linear game. Just mentioning an obvious weak point in the comparison.
Not so much grasping at straws as frantically clinging to them
Ground Zeroes http://assets.vg247.com/cur... Ryse http://media1.gameinformer.... You keep telling yourself that.
Holy last gen bushes batman. And you thought Forza 5 looked bad. Oh well you can still enjoy it in 1080p :]
Wait Herc did you just comment on the bushes that are in the back corner and pretty good distance away and that is your problem with the image? LOL Wow.
@Hercules, why did you quote me when there is no bushes in either pictures?
Bitby there is bushes int he MGS picture. Far left background.
They look like Trees to me, on a mountain far away. I see no problem with them.
Bitby, Under those its on the umm Left middle on the little small hill leading to the chain link fence. They are bushes. Above that you're right are clearly trees
Ahh those, they're pretty far back to see how detailed they will be.
Ryse only looks good in pre-rendered cut-scenes and they totally stole that technique from Naughty Dog. Difference is that MS and its heard all seem to reference those cut-scenes to claim it looks "better than blah blah blah".
why they act as if Ryse is the god of graphics? the sound and game play is lame and is not better looking than,Kz or bf4...
Because tons of magazines said so, including ign and gamesradar. Better believe in them then on fanboys
But Microsoft can't money hat the gamers*... Just sayin'. ;-| *well, unless they're on YouTube. :(
Also Digital Foundry said its the next gen game out of all consoles.
Not to sound like a douche, but I'm glad the PS4 version is the upper hand, I'd be pretty pissed if any version of MGS was superior on any other console, raised on MGS alongside my Playstations. Great to hear the story is as powerful as ever, and the length is so much longer as a game than just two hours, peaking my interest once again!
Nothing new here. XboxOne owners need to just come to terms that most of the games will always look a bit better on PS4. It's just a fact and the specs don't lie!
But ryse is the best looking game, so...
Ryse was pretty good graphically, but it was also a linear 3rd person game. Wait for a 3rd person on PS4 before you decide. (Maybe Infamous, or the Order?) Also as good as Ryse looked, it was about the same as God of War III as far as graphics.
Im not buying it in any case too little for so much (length/price)
I could not be happier with how this gen is turning out with regards to developers not being afraid to take advantage of the better hardware. I'm sure it was a concern to many and its a big relief. To those that say sales dont matter, I dont really care about the "my side sold more than yours" circlejerk that goes on on a weekly basis here, but I am grateful for the side effect of those extra sales, ei the position of strength Playstation is in, and Microsofts faded ability to bully devs and publishers. HUZZAH !
*I could not be happier with how this gen is turning out with regards to developers not being afraid to take advantage of the better hardware. I'm sure it was a concern to many and its a big relief. I was one of these people and i agree i',m glad they're using the hardware to their best ability. OT:Can;t wait to get this on PS4.
I'm right there with you bathy. That was my biggest concern mine at the start of this gen. The thought of developers holding back PS4 games just so they wouldn't offend xbone owners made my blood boil. It's great to see MS doesn't have any where near the influence they did last gen. I just hope it continues and developers don't suddenly think need to start aiming for parity.
Yup and i am very happy about that too, could you imagine if they made the games in parity , but i think the fact is everyone and their grandmas dog knows the ps4 is a fair bit more powerful than the xbone, so if the devs made the games exactly the same they would get called out on it by pretty much every where which would be more hassle than they probably would want to risk.
in a way i agree with you on 3rd party stance. but then the 1st party will rip them a new one and the devs would suffer more for seeking parity when everyone knows which is the strongest console . so in a way i see it is they had no other choice because the 'being hard to code for' excuse isn't there anymore .