Alex from Twinfinite writes: If anyone has ever told you that games can not teach you anything, maybe they should play this. Maybe they'll realize they were wrong.
Anyone who says such a things isn't worth talking to in the first place. I posted a blog a while back about how the Koei games sparked my interest in history. I'm sure there's tons of stories of people finding a passion in X subject because of a game.
Right. I can name plenty of games that have totally altered my outlook on life. Still, you'd be surprised how bigoted some people can be on the basis of medium alone.
"I can name plenty of games that have totally altered my outlook on life." Go on...
Playing a game to spark an interest isn't the same as teaching you something.
A game once taught me to be tolerant of other people's opinions, so I'll let that slide.
It isn't about opinion. What taught him is what he used to learn. Not the game that told him. It's like watching Big Bang Theory and saying that taught you Physics.
Gran turismo 5 taught me how to drive better so......
But, you see, the games in question actually DO teach history. The battles and personalities themselves are over the top, but the vast majority of events in Dynasty Warriors games are historically accurate, as are most of the characters. I assume the same is true of the Samurai Warriors/Orochi games. From what was initially taught there, Phoceenatic went on to develop a passion for history. Ironic that you speak of how someone can't learn from a game, yet are ignorant on the games in question. Xenosaga taught me about the EPR paradox. Parasite Eve taught me the role of mitochondria. Persona 3 and 4 taught me hella Japanese history, among other things. Front Mission 3 taught me some Chinese geography. Gran Turismo taught me a great deal about racing. MLB The Show taught me the motion of different pitches. I learned a LOT about guns from various FPS over the years. In nearly every case, what I learned first in the game pushed me to learn more outside of it. But it STARTED with the game teaching me something. It's just a shame you're so full of yourself, or you might have been able to learn a thing or two, as well.
I was the only person in the room a couple of months ago that could answer a question on university challenge on Gaia theory purely learnt from gaming.
"But, you see, the games in question actually DO teach history. " No one mentioned any games as evidence so what games in question are you referring to? "Ironic that you speak of how someone can't learn from a game, yet are ignorant on the games in question. " Quote me where I explicitly said you cannot learn from a game. Go on. Also that's not irony. "It's just a shame you're so full of yourself, or you might have been able to learn a thing or two, as well." And you're too dumb to realise I never said you can't learn from gaming. I simply said playing a game to spark an interest isn't the same as teaching you something. Perhaps if you weren't to hung up on idiotic notions you might have realised that.
On a provable, statistical level, video games teach, for example, children, things like problem solving, reading, reference associating, and expanding the mind. It is literally a fact that video games can teach beneficial information. Why are you trying so hard to convince US otherwise? It's completely inane of you to think you're opinion matters when you speak that way on a website like this. And if you're just going to attack those who disagree with you, it really just goes to show how mature you are. People like you really don't belong around here because no one can have a decent, thought-provoking debate with you. Nothing but useless arguing...
"On a provable, statistical level, video games teach, for example, children, things like problem solving, reading, reference associating, and expanding the mind. " Dear God man, don't just say it. PROVE IT. It is so provable do it. Don't just say it. Jesus, people can say anything. Backing it up is what matters. "It is literally a fact that video games can teach beneficial information." Again, quote me where I said otherwise. "Why are you trying so hard to convince US otherwise? It's completely inane of you to think you're opinion matters when you speak that way on a website like this." *sigh* WHERE AM I CONVINCING PEOPLE IT CANT BE DONE? QUOTE ME. "And if you're just going to attack those who disagree with you, it really just goes to show how mature you are. People like you really don't belong around here because no one can have a decent, thought-provoking debate with you. Nothing but useless arguing..." Ok first personal attack came from someone else. Secondly, I asked for proof. No one has done it. So where is the "thought-provoking" discussion coming from? Finally, don't play the victim. It's pathetic. Re-read the thread of conversation and actually look at it with an open mind and not that of a childish "gamez teaches me fingz. U disagrez wit me. lolz gay". Not one person here can answer anything I have asked or said. Once I "disagreed" (which I didn't, again find the quote) it just went down to the typical childish behaviour that typifies the gamer stereotype. Example below: "Bioshock got me to read atlas shrugged so this guy is just full of it." Lol, so what did Bioshock teach him? To read a book? Did no one ever try to get him to do it previously. What Bioshock did was lead him to a novel, and he read it. Whatever he learned from Atlas Shrugged was taught by that book. NOT Bioshock. Jesus Christ the amount of stupid from you people is beyond ridiculous. You can't read. You can't comprehend. You're making an argument that I never said. And you seem to think because a game references something that you decide to go learn about through other media, the game taught you something. It didn't. Thankfully I am out of bubbles so I can stop dealing with this. The amount of words I wrote would be more than the number of your combined brain cells. Start thinking. Seriously.
Since I can´t reply to Heisenburger, I´ll write it here @Heisenburger best comment ever.
calis, have you ever heard of this little tool called, "Google"? It's really good for finding information on all kinds of topics. Next time, please use your head before making yourself look like a fool. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+...
An excerpt of the explanation of the EPR Paradox, as given in Xenosaga's database: "A paradoxical theory presented in 1935 by Albert Einstein, Boris Dodolsky, and Nathan Rosen in support of their argument that quantum mechanics still falls short in its explanation of reality. A simple theoretical experiment to illustrate this paradox consists of a particle decaying into two identical particles. Because the internal angular momentum or spin of the particle must be conserved, the two decaying particles will have two opposing spins. As these particles decay, they are launched in opposite directions. When the distance between the two particles reaches a great distance, say several light years, the spin of one of the particles is measured. At the precise moment the spin of one particle is determined, the spin of the other can be determined to be in the opposite direction because the two spins must equal zero. Herein lies the paradox, since quantum mechanics dictates that the intrinsic property of an entity cannot be determined until it is actually measured. By determining the spin of the second particle several light years away without measuring it, the experiment would introduce the existence of some strange for that can transmit the information of the first particle's spin to the second particle faster than the speed of light-- a force that cannot be explained by quantum mechanics." I learned that from the game. Not because it was mentioned and sparked an interest cuz sounded cool. If there's anybody in this thread who can be considered stupid, it's you, frankly. That you continue to argue that you did not EXPLICITLY state that games can teach you something, while you continually deny anyone's claims to the contrary, makes YOU to be a fool. And your arrogance in the face of your- by this point willful- ignorance is damning, and astounding. Games can and do teach. If you've learned nothing from them, that's your own damn fault, but don't go trying to make others out to be stupid by overtly implying we've only had our interest piqued. Maybe you're playing the wrong games.
Time to chime in- You're mistaken games like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Bladestorm, & Nobunaga's ambition have huge glossaries that you can read which go in depth into the battles, heroes, and cities of the time. You're learning about the era from the game itself, end of.
Where in time is carmen sandiago taught me everything i needed for intermediate school. I couldnt believe it. owned history/general knowledge that year
Bioshock got me to read atlas shrugged so this guy is just full of it.
No thanks, i don't need to prove anything about my hobby to morons
Survival Horrors - Resourcefulness JRPGs - Patience/Speed Reading without missing a thing + how to save money Puzzlers - Analytical Capabilities Shooters - Eye-to-hand Co-ordination improvement + Team work (multiplayer) Fighters - Tactful Calmness Sports - Human Resource Management + Sound Judgement in employing people to work with you Driving Sims - Awareness of certain things I missed IRL when I first learnt to drive Those are generalizations and the lessons are not altogether mutually exclusive to any particular genre.
http://www.seriousgames.net... <- edugame company.. Games can teach you just as much as any article, book or documentary, it all depends on the person participating and the way the knowledge is conveyed.
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