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Submitted by Colts_15 168d ago | opinion piece

Stick to What You're Good at Nintendo; Make Games Not Hardware

With a wealth of franchise characters, and a lot of great in-house software developers, shouldn’t Nintendo think more about games than hardware and seek a little help?

"Nintendo’s influence on the gaming community provides an image so evocative that speaking the very name of the Japanese developer is able to draw out childhood memories as though you were fondly remembering a rite of passage. Close your eyes and imagine it for a moment; what the word Nintendo represents. The Mushroom Kingdom and all of its perils. Late nights spent stealing coins and breaking friendships in Mario Party. Learning to fly an arwing, or drift on mute city, or edge guard against Marth players. More than a list of games, Nintendo is a culture of innovation and creativity, which makes you wonder why they would ever bother limiting themselves to one console in the first place." (Culture, Nintendo, Wii, Wii U)

Shok  +   168d ago
Article is spot-on.
KonsoruMasuta  +   168d ago
Far from it.
dedicatedtogamers  +   168d ago
^^^

Agreed. The only "bad" hardware I can think of was the Virtual Boy and maybe the Micro GBA, but their hardware is always very solid and built with quality (and often affordability) in mind. Even when it comes to features I don't enjoy (like the Wii-U tablet or the 3DS's 3D) it's still quality.

But no, we don't need that. Nintendo should just do software. They should go 3rd party. That worked out great for SEGA, didn't it?
badz149  +   168d ago
What is this ignorant article do getting approved? Nintendo has always been about hardware! More so than Microsoft which started as a software company!

Most of their hardware are built solid but the only thing holding them back is almost always their own unwillingness to take even a little loss.
mcstorm  +   168d ago
Nintendo should not go Software only as it will not be the same Nintendo. In a way Nintendo make amazing games on there own consoles and games that stand out and use the consoles the way they were created for. It was the same with Sega. Since going 3rd party Sega have not quite been the same and Nintendo would not be the same.

The 3DS is selling fine and it now looks like the WiiU sales could be on the up and people keep forgetting that a console dose not have to be the best selling to make money esp the numbers the Nintendo big ip's sell in. How many ip's on the xbox and PS4 have kept there value like Mario Kart has?

Nintendo will be fine and are not going anywhere.
abzdine  +   168d ago
Nintendo games cannot run on any other machine because they always use a specific feature of the console.
Nintendo makes amazing hardware so they can push creativity while making games.
they have to continue doing both and that's what they're probably gonna end up doing.
makes me really wonder how many Nintendo consoles the writer really owned
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jakemail  +   168d ago
I think apple and nintendo need help making their machines, apple is to expensive and both of them don't want to make an os up to date with the other ones.
The_Infected  +   168d ago
I remember when N64 came out. It was a powerhouse and the games were amazing looking. Now nintendo went from power to gimmicks IMO.

They have the games now just make much more powerful hardware and less gimmick crap so you can get 3rd parts games that actually look next gen.
zeal0us  +   168d ago
Well the N64 was only console during it generation to have a 64bit processor. Which made it the strongest in terms of CPU. On the downside the cartridge is what limited the system. Fast load times but expensive to make and little storage when compared to disc.
Tiqila  +   168d ago
N64 was not gimmicky? Most toy-like console ever, the odd controller itself was a gimmick, upgradable with memory cards or rumblepaks (which now is a standard feature), extensible ram, alot of different colors also including transparent console cases and one that looks like pikachu and native four controller support.

Wii's main gimmick was the motion controlls which you today find on all consoles. DS's gimmick was a touchscreen and look what sony did with its vita handheld.
abzdine  +   168d ago
gimmicks but they work and well!!! the proof is that everyone is copying their ideas when they're developing consoles, or even later on
Chrischi1988  +   168d ago
You simply do not understand, what nintendo is actually trying to do with their business.

They try to take gaming to the next level. With next level, I dont mean graphics, I mean gameplay, the way you play something.

PS4 for example offers nothing new as a console, other than better hardware like if you upgrade your computer. Slighlty improved ergonomics on basically the same controller from the PS1 with added sticks over the years, they didnt change anything.

Nintendo tries to establish new methods of inputs, even if it means taking risks. They are pretty much the first in almost everything, what made gaming different nowadays. They try to improve the experience, by giving us methods, which come closer and closer to reality, step by step.

Good example will probably be Watchdogs, where you can actually use Aidens smartphone, like a smartphone on your gamepad and not open a menu which will allow you to control Aidens hacking, no, you do the hacking, you use it as if it were the real thing. Thats what makes nintendo special and there is no denying that.

So in other words, Nintendo is probably the most important hardware manufacturer of the 3, because they actually can take risks and they do take risks, to change gaming for a better.

I mean, up until now, how many times, did MS or Sony, actually copy the good ideas from Nintendo and how many times was it the opposite?

Calling that a gimmick shows, that you dont want gaming to improve.
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OtakuDJK1NG  +   168d ago
I see what you did there Shokio lol
Chrischi1988  +   168d ago
3 out of 2 of their latest techs, could be considered as one of the most successful pieces of hardware ever made. Just because the Wii U had a bad start, you all act like Nintendo is done forever. Pretty much shows, that you the writer of this article is biased as fu**. OK, 3DS is not that successful, but DS was, 3DS is still super successful and proves the point of nintendo needing more games on Wii U.

Still, 3DS proves this article wrong, not much else to say here...
CAB1802  +   168d ago
LOL, does people know that he is sarcastic?
3-4-5  +   168d ago
They always make the hardware that doesn't fail and stays working for decades.

They actually make THE BEST hardware in terms of quality.

How don't people comprehend this.

Have you ever owned a Nintendo system ?

My NES,SNES, my N64 & Gamecube have ALWAYS worked flawlessly. Even STILL.

Same with controllers.
AKR  +   168d ago
People love to knock N down for not making "cutting-edge" hardware; and yet, their hardware has always been praised. They always make their hardware with durability, quality, and an inviting price tag; no to mention the features themselves are very innovative.

I have a very hard time genuinely seeing a game like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby or the others doing well on other platforms. "Casual" games rarely do well on PS and XBOX, depending on what it is. They M-Rated stuff are what tops charts on those platforms.

Nintendo should stick making innovative hardware for their innovative games. They've stated this on several occasions; don't know why we're still discussing this.
zeal0us  +   168d ago
The problem is that games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Kirby aren't release back to back. There is a gap in between their releases. During this gap Nintendo is more vulnerable to things like low sales and bad press.

If you haven't notice this what they are going through right now, bad press and low sales. Nintendo needs third-party support. It is what keep system sells up during the gap. On the flip-side publishers don't want to make games for a system that isn't selling well.

Nintendo needs to do more than make innovative hardware for their games. They need to reach out to more publishers and developers. They need to be more open outside ideas(this does not mean westernize their franchises btw). They need to adapt and evolve as a company so this situation they are going through won't repeat itself.
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MEsoJD  +   168d ago
The hardware is the reason I haven't purchased a WiiU. I enjoy Nintendo's software, but I don't want another dust magnet like the Wii. They need to convince people that there's longevity in their home consoles.
X1PS4WiiU  +   168d ago
Someone on Gaf posted Nintendos financial gain from selling hardware, and its A LOT.

Having full control over the architecture of hardware, really allows them to take full advantage of making their software. They can create their own world, and they're doing that, with the eShop and Miiverse.

Nintendo brought us many innovations, and has pioneered this industry(d-pad, analog stick, wii remote, rumble pack, triggers, gameboy, ect.), because they make their own hardware.

I hope they continue to make hardware.
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KonsoruMasuta  +   168d ago
"Someone on Gaf posted Nintendos financial gain from selling hardware, and its A LOT."

People don't get this. A nice bulk of Nintendo's income comes from hardware. Getting rid of their hardware would get rid of a bulk of their income.
porkChop  +   168d ago
Nintendo didn't create or pioneer analog sticks, d-pads, or handheld game consoles. The Wii Remote also wasn't all that new as Sony had already been working on the Move back in the very early PS2 days. The problem I see is that so many people attribute innovations with Nintendo, and it's usually the innovations that Nintendo had no part in creating.
Vegamyster  +   168d ago
They made them popular/perfected them, also the technology in the Wii-Mote was shown to both Microsoft & Sony before Nintendo.

http://www.computerandvideo...
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SpiralTear  +   168d ago
Even if Nintendo didn't "create" any of these things, they certainly made them more appealing and palatable to gamers. Nintendo got them to work and become integral to gaming from thereafter.

For one, the Game Boy remained the definitive handheld system line all the way up to the Nintendo DS. That's nearly 15 years of prominence. 15 years of challengers and none of them could top the Game Boy.

You can argue that these devices existed before Nintendo used them if you want, but once Nintendo implemented them, these ideas became recognizable and standard for the industry. Nintendo gave those ideas legs.
porkChop  +   168d ago
Yes the tech was shown to Sony and Microsoft before Nintendo. Sony turned it down because it was expensive and they were starting work on a superior piece of tech, and Microsoft probably just wasn't interested in motion at the time. But that doesn't change the fact that A) Nintendo didn't create the tech, and B) they weren't the first to develop a form of motion control for a console.

And I never said Nintendo didn't perfect those features. X1PS4WiiU claimed that they were Nintendo's innovations and that they had pioneered them, which just isn't true.
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Chrischi1988  +   168d ago
That is like saying Apple did not pioneer Tablets^^

There were tablets before, but non of them were successful or any good, until then, same goes for anything about Nintendo.

And they were the first, they were the first to release it and use it, the first is the innovator, say what you want, but Playstation Move was a failure, came years later and had absolutely no meaning in gaming, unlike the Wiimote.

You dont need to downplay it here, it just lets you look really ignorant and dumb. Sony turned it down, isnt that their own fault? They didnt believe in it and Nintendo did, they pushed the tech, Sony was afraid to lose something and did what they always did.

It is funny, how you act like Sony has innovated anything^^ Sony did not use anything, they were not the first and if they were the first to have seen this tech, then they made very bad business decisions. Then again, you do not know, for how long Nintendo worked on their Motion controlls, you just know Sony did it during PS2 times, but guess what, Nintendo also did it during that time, because they released motion controlls, with the console and not years later. Who is the innovator? The one who works on tech for years and doesnt do anything with it or the ones to usefully utilize the tech and be the first to use it in a good way?
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Sincere0121  +   168d ago
Should Sony just stick to what their good at and just make hardware as they have never been able to compete with Nintendo when it comes to software.
elninels  +   168d ago
I agree that sony is nowhere near Nintendo's status in first party developing, but the games the make meet sales estimates, unlike Nintendo's hardware.
4logpc  +   168d ago
Nintendo hardware is just fine.
LOL_WUT  +   168d ago
3rd party devs say otherwise ;)
R00bot  +   168d ago
No, they don't. Only EA has said that. Other devs have all praised the hardware.
swice  +   168d ago
Fine just fine
BosSSyndrome  +   168d ago
There's so much incorrect information and baseless claims in here that I almost feel inclined to believe this is satire.
jhoward585  +   168d ago
Nintendo can stay in the hardware business. All they really need right now is a few more devs under their belt, that's all.

They don't have enough talent/devs to crack out games in a timely manner.
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Metallox  +   168d ago
"Nintendo can stay in the hardware business". Not only that, Nintendo has stated that it won't abandon the hardware business for now. #DealWithIt
elda  +   168d ago
Nintendo shouldn't stop making hardware if they have a fan base the Wii sold millions,Wii-U is in a little slump now but there are supporters of the system,sometimes whenever they release a new system they sell big & sometimes not so big but they have their support of fans.
MEsoJD  +   168d ago
The problem with the Wii was that although they made an extraordinary profit from each console, it didn't have legs. Today the Wii is a dead console with virtually no support. Sure Nintendo has lots of money from it, but they received a lot of negative views from core gamers/3rd party devs. Now the WiiU is failing and I think it's because Nintendo's damaged image from last generation. Sony/MS still have last gen consoles with lots of support and continue to make money from physical and downloadable at a consistent rate today. Further more they were able to have very successful launches and seemingly healthy developer support on all fronts.
I really don't know if Nintendo is willing to evolve in the right areas to continue to stay relevant in the future.
deadfrag  +   168d ago
This so call journalism dont stop down playing Nintendo;its time to stop with all this crap bad grade journalism now.Its not healthy for Gaming to keep with this nonsense.
porkChop  +   168d ago
I think it would be best for Nintendo to stick to handhelds and stop making consoles. Nintendo understands the handheld market, they've got that entire market pretty much locked down.

But with consoles Nintendo just can't do anything without hitching their consoles to gimmicks, which in turn limits the appeal and potential of the console itself. Nintendo relies on the novelty and marketability of gimmicks in order to be able to sell their consoles, but the gaming market is moving away from gimmicky hardware and Nintendo just does not seem to understand that.

Nintendo can't compete when it comes to pure gaming machines bred for raw power, Sony and Microsoft will always be way ahead there. But those types of consoles are what the market wants now.
KonsoruMasuta  +   168d ago
"but the gaming market is moving away from gimmicky hardware"

Yes, that's why bother the X1 and PS4 have motion sensors built for the system. Microsoft forces people to buy theirs and while Sony gives players a choice to buy a sensor, every DS4 comes with a lightbar.

Voice controls
Motion gaming
Ligthbars that light up and change colors during certain points in a game
Touchpads
Etc..

They are all gimmicks.
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porkChop  +   168d ago
You either missed my point, or you purposely tried to go around it. The Wii was COMPLETELY built around a gimmick, as was the Wii U. The PS4 and XBO may have gimmicky aspects, but the consoles and games do not entirely revolve around those gimmicky aspects, and they're completely optional. If every PS4/XBO game required voice commands/controls, motion, touchpad, etc, then many gamers would very likely be pissed off.
DualWielding  +   168d ago
More accurate would be to say stick to handhelds all their handhelds have been great, is just in the home console department that they seem to not be able to get a single one right after the SNES.....
ziggurcat  +   168d ago
Nintendo is fine at making hardware.

They just need to get out of the mindset of making hardware that's half to a full generation behind the competition.
wheresmymonkey  +   168d ago
Nintendo make brilliant hardware, from both a build quality perspective and a functional one.

This is just another article from someone who doesn't understand that the quality of nintendo's software is based on a symbiotic relationship with the hardware. A nintendo game that wasn't made on a nintendo system wouldn't be as good. It's because they can tailor every part of the experience that they're so damn good.
Stoppokingme  +   168d ago
It's funny because the last time I checked the Wii sold more than the PS3 and the 360. Not to mention the big N is kicking ass in the handheld market.

Why? because of the games. Nobody buys a console for any other reason.

History will show nintendos consoles have been the technical runt, but it hasn't stopped them from making quality games. And it's the lack of games that's hurting the Wii-U, not the power issue.
higgins78  +   168d ago
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Up until the Wii Nintendo's consoles have always been on the cutting edge of technology. Also, people have always bought Nintendo's handhelds NOT for the games but for their innovations, be it Gameboy (gaming on the move) or DS (dual screen/touch screen).
higgins78  +   168d ago
Strange, very strange. I say this because when I think of Nintendo I think of its hardware and software tied, one without the other would be diluting the experience. Nintendo (for me) create thee best hardware, only the Virtual Boy in my memory can be considered a "failure". The amount of innovation which comes with each new Nintendo console should make other developers shamed.
JackieCruise69  +   168d ago
Actually, They're good at making games for their own consoles, So they should keep doing that. They utilize what they have and make some pretty kickass games with it, so just because the hardware they make isn't worth bragging about, doesn't mean they should just drop it and become a software only company.
linkenski  +   168d ago
You know, Sonic used to be pretty good... then Sega stopped making consoles and his games went from good, decent to god-awful.
TheVideoGamHer  +   168d ago
Nintendo's hardware and software go hand in hand. Even Nintendo themselves have said that they build their hardware specifically for their games and vice versa. Contrary to what people wish to believe, in the end they always make a profit on their hardware and software even when they aren't the frontrunners. Sony has been losing money on hardware for years, but should they stop making consoles? No because in the end they are still making products people enjoy and they should continue to make them so long as they are in demand. The issue I see with people wanting Nintendo to stop making hardware is simply wishful thinking and baseless assumptions of what people personally want. Nintendo not making hardware simply doesn't make much business sense or financial sense in reality. No disrespect to Microsoft, but I don't think the Xbox brand has ever been profitable, yet people are always pinning Nintendo against them, as well as Sony, when they simply don't make money like Nintendo does in the gaming spectrum.
stragomccloud  +   168d ago
That's ridiculous. They make great hardware, and great software that compliments their hardware. The industry would grow stale without Nintendo making bold moves in the hardware side of the industry. The author of this article is clearly an uneducated ignoramus.
TheVideoGamHer  +   168d ago
On topic with the article, though. They're not saying Nintendo should go third party, they're saying Nintendo may need business help and help with console building. Personally, I think Nintendo does a good job at creating hardware. The only thing they need help with is finding modern ways to implement these ideas. The Wii U gamepad imo is a good idea, but the architecture could have been more developer friendly which is the Wii U's biggest issue right now. The Wii U strength is fine and even though the games won't be PS4 pretty, they'll look nice. If the Wii U utilized the x86 architecture as the other two it'd be fine. Look at how the X1 is panning out. It's not as close to the PS4 as people thought, but it's still getting the games. If Wii U had x86 architecture, it'd simply be getting the X1 version of multiplats. For decisions like this, Nintendo would benefit greatly from advice or a second opinion from another hardware company that knows better. Nintendo partnered with some PC maker would make sense.
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REDBEARD  +   168d ago
Atari and Sega, nuff said.

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Colts_15  +   168d ago
I can't help but laugh that everyone is praising Nintendo for it's hardware yet almost no one actually bought their last console! On a personal level I do own a WiiU and I love it to death but man the numbers just aren't there. I wish it sold better so the argument could be put to bed but it hasn't so while I might not agree myself it still is a valid discussion to have.

For those yelling about hack journalism you all have to remember that this is just a single person's opinion here too. You might have a different opinion, which is cool (I disagree with him too) but that doesn't make him a hack!

My 2 cents....
swice  +   168d ago
Lol NO

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