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Pachter: Saying Sony Has "A Lot of First-Party Content Is a Stretch"

GR: Industry analyst Michael Pachter just won't give Sony and the PlayStation faithful a break, calling into question the size of the platform's library of first-party content.

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BigFnHooters1287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

You really can't have any other reaction this something this detached from reality.

In the past Pachter was just a random dumb 'analyst' who said idiotic things that made anyone who even casually follows the console market chuckle and move on.

But Pachter appears to be having a very embarrassingly public fanboy meltdown.

Abash1287d ago

Don't worry, a couple of years from now he'll be butt-kissing Sony begrudgingly and backtracking on his statements

Destrania1287d ago

Pachter's just an industry joke. What an imbicile.

Visiblemarc1287d ago

Yeah...especially since it's all relative. As far as 1st party goes, Sony has tons relative to it's competiton. Microsoft has been slow in this department, but they've claimed to have made strides, hopefully this will prove true. 1st party games make owning more systems fun and I like owning lots of platforms.

Why o why1287d ago

Sony have been building for generations. Sony at the start of last gen explained that 3rd party exclusives would be on the wane. They already had their strategy in motion. Please do not compare sonys model to the stagnant nintendo one or mircosofts relatively new and inexperienced one. Both have numbers but the output from each is very different. New ips has been one of nintendos flaws of late. Microsoft on the other hand introduced more ips and are making improvements from what I can see but time will tell if their management of the studios they hold and their consistency of output is up to scratch. Sony need to continue doing what they're doing.... From what I've seen they are making improvements in regards to indie studios and games. They have the best output of the 3 in terms of full exclusives. Like mircosoft and nintendo alike, sony has a stash of dormant ips so I call that a scratch. The ethos of each may change but last gen showed the differences between the big 3

GameNameFame1287d ago

Right Now? Or Just in General?

Right now PS4 first party isnt as big because most exclusives went to PS3.

But then look at Sony first party developers that got bigger.

Then look at last gen first party exclusive. On Metascore, 80 to 100 metascore. PS3 exclusive doubles xbox 360 exclusive.

TheRedButterfly1287d ago

But when he says MS should unbundle the Kinect and Sony is "Kicking their B*tt", he's the embodiment of reason and wisdom. Easily making the front page of N4G! http://n4g.com/news/1453402...

johndoe112111287d ago

And the point of this article is?

truefan11287d ago

Let me guess he is back on the ps4 fanboy bad side lol. What he is saying is true, Sony has been riding the wave of 2 internal studios. Ps4 fans would have you believe they have a lot of first party content when they didn't have much more then 360 last gen and that's a bad thing. So far this gen, Sony is milking those same 2 devopers. There is a reason Sony is trying to bring more developers into the fold, they need new stuff.

Gamingcapacity1287d ago

@trufan

First of all lets not get confused with 3rd party games that have been bought out by MS.
Secondly, PD-Gran Turismo SP-Infamous SM-God of War ES- Drive club, motorstorm GG - Kilzone MM - Litlebigplanet JS Gravity Rush (PSN games like rain and Tokyo Jungle) ND - Uncharted and the last of us RAD (not strictly 1st party) The order. QD (not first party again but makes Sony owned games) Heavy Rain, Beyond.

Anybody feel free to add if I missed any major developers.

scott1821287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

Pretty sure he meant at the moment, which is true.

Sony has boat loads of first party studios and talent, that is a given.

lol, a certain fan doesn't forget to troll every Sony article, I'm impressed.

4Sh0w1287d ago

"Pachter on Xbox One: Microsoft Should Unbundle Kinect to Lower Price; Sony is "Kicking their B*tt"
n4g comment section= Pachter speaks the gospel

"PlayStation Now 'is a joke', says Pachter" 
n4g comment section= Pachter is a joke

4Sh0w  +   ; 21h ago

Personally I just think Pachter is a over paid fanboy, milking his status for all its worth.
= 33 disagrees

"Pachter: Saying Sony Has "A Lot of First-Party Content Is a Stretch"

n4g comment section= Pachter is crazy; Again. lol

Pachter knows exactly what he's doing and we keep posting his crap just as he intended.

showtimefolks1287d ago

sometimes i wonder if he say these things to stay in news. because he just can't be that dumb. No one can't be this dumb

ND became 2 teams
read st dawn at sony santa monica
GOW2 developer santa monica team
god of war 3 team

that's 5 different developers within just 2 sony owned studios. Than you have GG games who have 2 teams one doing KZ stuff another doing a new IP

I have to believe david jaffe is up to something too. he says he likes working with sony

sucker punch will get much bigger after infamous 2nd son

QD

than you have many others in sony japan and sony europe. so yes patcher you are a dumb ass, how you keep this job is beyond me. Weren't it you who said GTA3 would sell 300K

dedicatedtogamers1287d ago

Do people still not realize that Pachter's "predictions" and "comments" are specifically designed to sway the market? Any analyst gives analysis for money and in private.

Notice how his analysis never, ever, ever paints 3rd party publishers in a negative light.

Notice how his "predictions" and "analysis" always downplays first-party companies (he rarely has a nice thing to say about Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo's 1st party offerings) and always praises 3rd parties.

k3rn3ll1287d ago

I don't think he will be buttkissing sony inless the financial industry collapses and fails to exist. Hes a finacial analyst not a game analyst. He just happens to be a favorite when it comes to the business sode of games. He won't go away as long as people click on stories featured about him. So to click on a story about him then complain we need to stop giving him airtime is ki nda hypocritical. I've never understood why people complain what he says shows hes not a true gamer. It doesn't matter because the majority of stuff he's asked has mot ao much to do about gaming as it does with finances and business

DragonKnight1287d ago

Xbox fanboys, Pachter is ALWAYS an idiot. Always. Sometimes he's more of an idiot than usual, sometimes he's less, but he's ALWAYS an idiot. Your attempts at shouting about hypocrisy just make you look as stupid as Pachter because, say it with me now, PACHTER IS ALWAYS AN IDIOT!

r2oB1287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

@ truefan

You do realize that of the 4 major (I use the term loosely here) retail titles available on the Xbox One (Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Killer Instinct) only one is a first party title. Not to mention upcoming titles such as Quantum Break and Titanfall are also not first party.

Meanwhile both Killzone and Knack are both first party titles. Also, upcoming titles such as Drive Club and Infamous: SS are first party. Thats 4 so far, do you really want to compare first party content?

I don't even understand what you mean by Sony milking the same 2 studios this gen. Currently they have games (released or announced) by Guerilla, SCE Japan, Sucker Punch, Evolution Studios, and Ready at Dawn (2nd Party).

LeCreuset1287d ago

@4show

That was such a dishonest troll attempt. This is why no one takes Xbox fans' hypocrisy claims seriously. Let's look at the whole of your comment that got you disagrees:

lol, X1 had the 180 bad press pre launch, it launched a week after ps4, it hasn't hit even half the markets ps4 is in, it's $100 more expensive, it broke 360 sells records and as we know 360 was a major success, it beat ps4 in Dec npd, X1 has a better lineup of games and everyone involved with xbox are talking about more great games to come, micros recent financial report was very positive, while sony looks like a company in financial trouble= how in the hell is that getting your butt kicked?

Funny how when Pachter is bashing micro he's taken seriously but when it's sony he's a joke, right?

"PlayStation Now 'is a joke', says Pachter"
http://n4g.com/news/1450116...

Personally I just think Pachter is a over paid fanboy, milking his status for all its worth.

Giul_Xainx1287d ago

You know what month it is? It's black history month. BUT ALSO TAX SEASON. I see a huge flux of new PS4's suddenly connected to PSN.

inveni01287d ago

I'd like to know how this guy even makes people money. He lives in a wicked cool house and drives wicked nice cars, and it's all because of his knowledge of the market... If I could make that much money for being terrible at something, I'd be swinging on a stripper pole right now.

andibandit1287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

To be honest, they were talking about Playstation Now, and Mike was arguing that previous cloud based gaming services had big trouble getting 3'rd party games onto their system, that wasn't at least 2 years old. To this Geoff replied "Sony has ALOT of first party content" referring to the fact that said content, could go on PSNow, to which Mike replied, "Alot is a strecth, they have around 30"......

personally I dont see the problem, but good job on the "Bandwagon-bashing".

Anon19741287d ago

Someone needs attention. Anyone notice that the past week, Pachter's just one inflammatory statement after the other? I just can't help but feel that he's purposefully trying to rile people up for attention for some reason.

I remember when Pacther was still actually an analyst...so many years ago...

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1287d ago

@The RedButterfly... You hit the nail on the head. You have to love SAD. It's awesome!

BTBuck11286d ago

he's been stuck on stupid lately that's for sure.

Dubaman1286d ago

Look at his latest predictions. Completely loses all credibility right?!

http://nintendoeverything.c...

cell9891286d ago

you start to wonder just how intact his reputation can remain after such wild idiotic predictions as these

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GarrusVakarian1287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

Pachter is a funny guy, saying silly things like that and actually expecting people to believe it. Look at the PS3 to see how wrong he is, 2013 alone had a large amount of first party content compared to other platforms. As ive said before, i really can't believe this man is paid to say things like this. He is trying his best to draw attention to himself lately, isn't he?

Looking at the article picture, i wish it was his head getting the Kratos treatment, lol.

allformats1287d ago (Edited 1287d ago )

When I said the other day that Patcher was a troll, Microsoft shill and Xbox fanboy a lot of people pounced, but look at what he's saying now... Another retarded statement that total contradicts deals Sony has going on right now... Deals like free PS Plus games... Some of the biggest games in the industry, mind you: We're talking Bioshock Infinite, Metro: Last Light and other massive titles.

Again, this guy said it himself that he's very close with Microsoft. He always references Xbox when talking about gaming systems -- as if he were advertising the freaking brand...

But no, I'm talking rubbish, right? smh.

XSpike1287d ago

@TheRedButterfly, its because Pachter either states something obviously correct or he'll state something that is obviously wrong.

Soo everybody hates him, and hates him with passion as he sits on his ass and then goes out and states something obviously correct or obviously wrong and gets paid for it. Everybody on the net could do his job!

hellzsupernova1287d ago

The comment in context is right. thirty games is how many he said they have roughly that they could bring to playstation now since they are only going to be bringing ps3 games for now and they will only be able to bring first party games for now, thats going to be the extent of the library until third parties sign up for the service

Rainstorm811287d ago

There are more than 1st party games on the beta right now

kayoss1287d ago

Ok let me tell you what happened.
I was playing mp of killzone on my ps4 the other day. A guy join by the name of "PAC-attack" he claimed that he's a game analyst and this is his first time playing. So I hunted him down the whole time. He managed only one kill. He went on a Rant and start yelling that he hate the ps4 and their games. I heard a loud bang from his mic and a few second later he left the room. We assumed he toss his controller in a fit of rage but who knows. 5 minutes later I got a pm from him. To summarize he say that he hated ps fanboy and that he will ruin Sony because he's a respected analyst. He told me to enjoy the playstation while it last.

This coincide with all the negative article that been popping up for Sony by patcher.

True story.

palaeomerus1287d ago

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