GR: Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter has been awfully outspoken about his thoughts on PlayStation Now and why he thinks it will fail to be a success for Sony.
Whats this guy got against Playstation Now...seriously it's not hurting anyone Long as Sony offers the versions on the store where you can buy and download them without the streaming nonsense (for those who haven't got good broadband speed) then it shouldn't be a problem
See that is the problem with it, people don't have the broadband speed to download games in a reasonable time. I don't believe they will have it so you can download the games, also people won't pay extra for something that they can play the games they already own on their PS4 when the can just hook up there old console and play it on that
Yeah but it's a nice program to get started anyway so it's there when broadband speeds become better. People will use it others will download them....as the years go by the service will be more used. Better setting it up now then later
Yea i agree good point didn't really think of the long term, might be a lose for a year or two but it will be big eventually
You obviously didn't see the guy who ran it perfectly with 5mb download broadband... You don't need teh uber fiber internet to run it obviously.
Im in Ausrtralia and we have terrible internet compared to America, im only getting 10mbps download, if it works ill be happy.. dont know why people complain about their speeds..ive seen some people here complain about 50mbps lol
The Internet speeds to stream the files is one thing, the other is that they will be charging extra. Now if Sony was the not for profit company you all think they are, they would offer this service included with ps+. This service will not catch on to the main stream, maybe a few of you will try it, but the majority won't. I also don't know about Sony ' network infrastructure. There was a reason this hasn't been done since Sega channel.
trufan I think you're twisting what people think about Sony. Nobody believes that Sony runs the PS division for love not money. What people do believe is that Microsoft is a company that will try and find has many ways to nickle and dime you. They want the to get their hands in has many pots has possible, use their money to monopolise the market (well to the extent permitted by law) and then charge what the hell they want becuase they can. They have a mindset that they want to destroy the competition so they have that particular market to themselves and that's not good for the consumer. By the wat the service ran on my poor 5Mbps connection. I had a chance to try it before Sony bought Gaikai. I played Alan Wake with a good quality stream with very little lag.
We will know when it comes out how popular it will be, so far it looks like a fantastic surface and everyone that has tried it have been very positive.
Services like this, 4k streaming, etc... are creating the demand for faster internet speeds. If nothing creates the need, it will never happen.
I converted from x360 to ps4. So there are a lot of ps3 games I missed and would pay to play. I know I'm not the only one either (not saying there is a million of us but still I'd wager more than 10000 easy)
It has already been proven to work on relatively slow internet. Patcher has no basis to his comments, as always.
PSNow is project for the future remember that it can be played on tablets and TVs, and in time will come to iPads and BlueRay players.
You dont download the games. You stream them.
Because people are interested in backwards compatibility they created an online library for people to subscribe to as a means of playing anything that is available in said library. Eventually the entire ps3 library will be on gaikai along with ps2 and ps1 games. That way people will finally play haze and Lair and make up their own review score for them. For playstation fans they will enjoy not having to risk destroying their physical copies of older ps games, and not have to worry about downloading the game and then installing it. You may not see why a service like this would be wanted right this second, but eventually you will see it succeed. I am willing to place a million dollar bet on the success of Playstation now, right now.
@theDivision - I'm in the exact same boat as you. So now it would appear they only need 999,998 more subscribers.
Just look at Playstation Plus, every month we get great games for free and I'm sure they get downloaded A LOT. Playstation Now won't fail because of peoples broadband speeds. Sure if you have a shit connection it might take you all night to download a game, that's not a deal breaker. It will come down to the subscription cost, and the catalog of available games. The way Sony has been running PS+, I bet PS Now will be awesome.
Sorry but Pachter is the BIGGEST MS Fanboy. He gave himself away plenty of times last gen. Nothing he says I will ever believe.
There you said it. Isn't it obvious? The only thing this guys has against PS Now is the fact that isn't a m$ service and the fact that he's been talking about it everyday it means that he recons the value of the service and that it will be big and probably sink m$ in the way.
What Pachter dislikes, its really what he wishes his preferred bias has, in this case MS. He seems so insecure with PS Now and that to me tells me it would be a sure hit or at least a good chance of being one. Pachter is not good for the industry. When will his employers realize this and make him disappear?
When I said the other day that Patcher was a troll, Microsoft shill and Xbox fanboy a lot of people pounced, but look at what he's saying now... Another retarded statement that total contradicts deals Sony has going on right now... Deals like free PS Plus games... Some of the biggest games in the industry, mind you: We're talking Bioshock Infinite, Metro: Last Light and other massive titles. Again, this guy said it himself that he's very close with Microsoft. He always references Xbox when talking about gaming systems -- as if he were advertising the freaking brand... But no, I'm talking rubbish, right?
When he said the Sony breach was worst than the RROD situation is when I knew he was a retard.
Patcher Doesn't "Have a Prayer of Getting anyone to take him seriously" Says Zombiekiller Honestly, PS Now is going to be awesome. I hear reports of users saying it works well on crappy connections. So with that said: Does it take a Patcher to tell us what's up with the service? Personally, I haven't tried it myself but I could see the potential of this being straight up AWESOME. Bring a controller over to a buddies house instead of your PS3 because he has a Sony Bravia (2014)?! SOLD. I know I'll be subscibing....even with my 30+ ps3 titles. I just need some BC on my PS4 damnit.
I still cannot believe people take this patcher guy seriously. The man is rarely right on any of his predictions and the ones he's right on are the blatantly obvious. Not to mention he never seems to be negative towards MS, only sony and nintendo.
Isn't he the guy who almost always predict the opposite?
He just like hearing himself speak is all. I've never put any stock into anything that comes out of his mouth Lol.
It's all about content and price, if they offer good games at a fair price then it will do well if it has a small amount of games that aren't that good and cost a lot then it will fail. IMO if they can offer PS1, PS2, and PS3 games to multiple devices for 10 $ or less a month than it PS Now will be huge.
I said this before. He likes xbox. When on GT or other progs, he was always positive about xbox even when they had fkall. He's a numpty. Haven't got a clue how he is employed. I can only think his nose is brown.
No matter how much I don't want to, I'd have to agree with him… Siding with Pachter feels dirty. (brb, gonna go take a shower now)
I often agree with Pachter but he's SO wrong here. I'm going to be interested to see what his response is to PSNow in 5 years time. Perhaps he doesn't realise it's available to millions and millions of people that don't even own a console or handheld?
Honestly I think a million is an unrealistic number ESPECIALLY for US only. There's a global market for this stuff. I can see Japan alone getting well over 1 million subs easily.
He must be on Microsoft's Payroll to keep talking about PS Now like this.
Now it's starting to look like Microsoft has begun to court Pachter much in the same way they did with Machinima and all the people involved with that mess. To all the disagreers: you can't legitimately say that that isn't possible or is unreasonable. If you do, then you're probably in the same BS-feeding loop as Pachter.
Don't worry. His comments about Xbox are just as dumb as the ones about PlayStation.
Pachter also said the Vita would be a booming success and the 3DS wouldn't sell at all. I'd take whatever he says with a grain of salt.
I do think getting game devs to agree to put anything recent on PS NOW is going to be tough though. It's like how Red Box isn't allowed to rent out new Blu Ray releases. It kills sales and studios won't allow it for a month or two.
Publishers knows that if someone buy one of there games after a year, it probably be used and they won't make a penny on it. In that case, why not selling them on the cheap to Sony. It's better than nothing.
With about 100 million playstation now capable devices already sold (ps3/4 vita) and the support on tv's and who knows what other devices wouldn't take much to get a million just needs the right content at the right price. Patched could be right but we will have to wait and see.
Sheed Pachter must not know playstation fans them boys love everything Sony does and will defend them to death
yes exactly because they know their ain't gonna be let down it is safe to say that this gen, one console is for media the other is for games
I am guessing you really enjoyed the 60% failure rate the Xbox 360 incurred, you guys would even support a console that has a 90% failure rate, hey you guys did just buy a $500 cable box, before you point fingers look at the ignorance and stupidity that is xbox fanboy.
Its hilarious when you guys say that about Sony fanboys yet MS fanboys will defend them (ms) to the death too. Everyone saying how bad Sony fanboys are, guaranteed if x1 was doing better than Ps4 the xbox fanboys would be going crazy. Just like* the start of last gen :) hypocrites.
Look son I been gaming before ur pops let you out his nut sack and over the years I never and I mean never seen some hilarious gamers like the playstation gamers I love yall though I luv reading the comments yall keeps me in stitches
Nothings worse than a Nintendo fanboy. MS fanboys are at least admirable in their loyalty, and Sony fanboys will remain loyal unless Sony does something stupid, but Nintendo fanboys? Nintendo could kill their whole entire family, and everyone they love, and they'd still be ok with it- because it's Nintendo and they can do no wrong ever.
Yeah... thats why the psvita is selling so well and nobody is trash talking it
So if they do get over 1 Million this guy will lose what little credibility he has left. I hope everyone will remember this quote until that day arrives.
Patcher doesn't have a prayer of ever becoming a competent analyst.
Geez, Pachter, you sure are taking a lot of shots at Sony today...
Its really gonna suck for him if he is wrong. I want the service. A lot of people want the service. He forgets that there are millions of PS3, PS4, and vita already in people's homes. This doesn't include tablets and Bravia TVs. Even if 5% ever try it, it will get millions of subscribers. His math doesn't seem to add up.
Someone please stop posting the rubbish this guy keeps spewing... Patcher is the ass(Donkey) of the gaming community...
There is a market for PS Now, but this is all going to depend on the pricing model and content. How many they sell will be interesting to see. As for third party publishers, it will be all about if they can make a profit.
Exactly. And sense they probably aren't making any money on their legacy content, this is a freebie. You would be surprised how fast game sales drop off after the first few months. This is a way to monetize their content without having to ship anything to retailers. Put yourself in the publisher's shoes. We have 5 games we have made over the last 3 years. These games aren't selling anymore, but if be put them on now, we can start earning royalties. Lets do it.
If this guy can make money by talking out of His ass...I must be doing something wrong in life :(
Wow Pach having a field day aren't we. How big is that cheque MS has inserted in your behind for you to keep badmouthing everything Sony do today?
a million doesn't sound like that many too me , I mean versus how many have sold/will sell.....although, im not big on older games as I usually just play the new stuff (time constraints)
PlayStation must of slept with his wife. He's got a hard on for PlayStation as of late, nothing but negativity from this guy.
It's been said many times before and I'll say it again, no idea why anyone listens to him. I think he's wrong more often than he's right and when he's right it's "thank you captain obvious". Streaming games is the inevitable future. Sony says a 5mb link is enough. Most people have a 5mb link at this point. The thing I read that bothers me is the rumor on PS1+2 local emulation. It's seems like a mixed strategy. Why would you use cloud for PS3 and local emulation for PS1+2? EG the 2014 Bravia TV's will have the Playstation Now app, which means it can play PS3 games but not PS1 or PS2? How much sense does that make? I don't understand why they wouldn't just have everything in the cloud so you can BYOD "Bring your own device" EG the Playstation Now app for Roku, Apple TV, Chromecast etc. That's what Sony wants/needs. Sony wants to be like Netflix and good for them. I just don't see how local emulation plays into that strategy.
I think he's bitter because A) he didn't get a beta invite or B) his Dewrito 180 box is getting slapped silly by the 4.
And once again this idiot does not have a f****ng clue what he is talking about. Don't believe his lies. He is not some kind of messiah of gaming.
why do people not like options ? smh
This website has some of the most biased idiotic people on the net. Let me shoot down each one of the most prominent points mentioned by people slandering Pachter. 1. Pacthers job is not to give out predictions. His job is to analyze the market and give investors the information he's gathered. His job is not to get future predictions right. 2. This idea that he's biased when on this very site there's an article on the front page of him critiquing Microsoft and praising Sonys' sales, is flat out moronic. Pachter simply calls it how he sees it. This website is simply a place for users to post troll bait articles that suck Sony off and completely thrases Nintendo and Microsoft. This site, gaming blend, Furious Fanboys, and other troll websites operate very similarly.
I'm not entirely sure how much I agree with him or not. I have over 300 retail PS3 games and at least that many digital titles, so I have absolutely no reason to bother with PSNow (unless my PS3 kicks the bucket and I can't find a replacement). I'd be a bit more interested in the prospect of PSOne and PS2 titles, if only to get my hands on rare titles I never tried, but I have large libraries there (as well as, again, PS3 versions of the old platforms). Couple this with the widespread rumors that Sony is placing a bigger emphasis on re-releasing classic titles with updated graphics and features instead of adding them to the PSNow categories, and I can't see many people jumping to subscribe for something they already have access to, outside of relatively new adopters who missed out on the PS3 era. Sure, there's a lot of those, but not enough to gain millions of subscribers with any haste. I won't even get into the cannibalistic aspects it will have on the PS+ program offering PS3 titles to people, or the broadband inconsistencies. Maybe there are a ton of PS3 owners out there who don't bother touching most of their PS+ titles and only own a few retail discs or rent very few titles... but then, what's to say they'd want to play the stuff offered on PSNow if they don't even play what they have access to now? I'm sure I'll be proven wrong, but it really doesn't interest that wide of a demographic from my perspective.
Patcher is the biggest Xbot.
How do you explain the other article with him praising the PS4 and critiquing the XB1. You loved that one didn't you, fanboy?
Pachter changes direction more than the wind. It's called trying not to look like a fool for saying it'll go one way when it went the complete opposite direction while hoping people forget what he said in the first place.
I just prayed for Playstation Now to have over a million subscribers. Patcher, you are officially wrong. It now has at least one prayer.
This guys starting to piss me off,there will be millions for one good reason,360 gamers like me last gen who want to play all the games we missed on PS3,not to mention nostalgic gamers loyal to Playstation,I have KZSF but never played any of the games before so first thing I will do is catch up on those,TLOU GOW and Uncharted 1-3 hopefully before 4 releases,this guys a clown
Jesus christ, did playstation now murder his family?
Whatever, Pachter. Can't wait to play PS1/PS2 games on my PS4.
He's probably getting paid by M$ to say stuff like this.