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David Hayter Taking A Shot At Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes?

David Hayter could have been taking a shot at Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes regarding its game length.

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miyamoto1690d ago

How about a new movie or a game starring Guyver under your own screenplay David Hayter? That will be awesome for a change

FriedGoat1690d ago (Edited 1690d ago )

The Dark hero rofl.
I watched that film many times, it was like power rangers on crack.
Lots of gore.

cleft51689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

He already has movies out and he just sold the rights to another movie. David Hayter is extremely successful. He did Snake because the fans where so passionate about the series and his role as Snake, not because he needed money. Which makes the way Kojima behaved towards David Hayter all the more disrespectful.

It would have been nothing for Kojima to call up David or take him out to lunch and let him know what was going on. Instead he was practically the last to know what was going on. Kojima was incredibly rude and disrespectful to a guy that worked on the MGS series for over 10 years.

abstractel1689d ago

@cleft5 I completely agree, and that's my main gripe with the situation. I can handle Sutherland as the voice, but I do really dislike the way they treated Hayter. The right thing would have been to have had him sign an NDA and like you said, take him out to lunch and let him know what was going on.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi1689d ago

Was wondering how long it would take for someone to go there...

CYCLEGAMER1689d ago

Ok this was either a really lame attempt at "taking a shot" or I just don't get the joke. If he is taking a shot, it wasn't a good one...lol

mutantgorillaface1689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

I still don't buy David Hayter not being in this game. I'll take anything Kojima's troll-ass says with a grain of salt. I think he's still in the game in some capacity and we're being set up for one of the biggest/greatest surprises in-game, ever done in a game.

CYCLEGAMER1689d ago

I am not really buying it either, this whole thing just seems like a hoax. Hayter just seems a little too "butthurt". If all of this really happened then I feel for the man. But I would not be surprised if this was a massive troll.

DragonKnight1689d ago

You people aren't going to go down without a fight are you?

He's not in the game. This isn't a troll move by Kojima as is evidenced by every piece of Hayter's actions from announcement to this very moment.

Get over it, he's not in the game. At all. Period.

Shadowstar1689d ago

I'd be happier if it were a troll, but... alas, I don't think so. I will be buying MGS5 used. Or not at all, if I can manage it, but I think I'll cave.

mutantgorillaface1689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

@DragonKnight If this is a troll and Hayter is in on it, which he'd have to be, his so-called actions would not be "evidence" of anything. I'm getting the game regardless of him being in it so it's not like a 'I just can't let this go' type of thing. Knowing Kojima's sense of humor and past antics , I feel like it might be an elaborate troll; maybe even a way to poke fun at the Sam Fisher voice situation in Splinter Cell: Blacklist, I don't know. But I don't buy it and some random dude (you) in the comment section "confirming" he's not in the game doesn't convince me otherwise. Kojima was bold enough to basically pull a bait-and-switch with the main playable character in MGS2, is it so far out of the realm of possibilty that he's bold enough to pull something like this? if I end up wrong, then fine, but I don't buy it.

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fr0sty1689d ago

He's such a Hayter...

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gameseveryday1690d ago

Good stuff. His frustration is justified.

Nate-Dog1689d ago

Not really. He thinks he ought to be the voice for Snake eternally and since he's not any more he's been endlessly bitter about MGSV. He's done great work on the series, but if KP want to change him then they can, they don't need to justify their decision to him.

DragonKnight1689d ago

What?

Firstly, he has never implied, nor directly stated, nor answer any kind of question regarding the idea that he thinks he ought to be the voice of Snake eternally. He doesn't need to voice Snake, as has been stated before, since he's very successful outside of MGS.

Secondly, endlessly bitter? What have you been reading. Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you'd be bitter to if you weren't even given the consideration of a personal explanation as to why you're not being cast for a role you spent 10 years of your life giving your best to and becoming synonymous with said role.

"but if KP want to change him then they can, they don't need to justify their decision to him."

Actually yeah, they do. If it weren't for Hayter, Snake wouldn't be who he is today. It'd be one thing if they used a different voice actor among the games for Snake, but they didn't. They recognized that Hayter was Snake, that the fans knew him as Snake, and that his was the iconic representation of that character. So yes, given that he gave a decade of his life to making the character what he is today they do need to justify their decision. To him, and to potential consumers.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI1689d ago

@DragonKnight

I couldn't disagree more.

1.His actions as of late scream bitter child.

2. Whether or not his bitterness is justified is besides the point, if anything you just proved he ought to be and probably is bitter.

3.No they don't need to justify shit to him. Regardless of how synonymous Hayter's name is to Snake, he doesn't own the IP or writes the story therefore he doesn't need to get any justification fore the change of direction.

Frankly I was confused as to why he was even in any of the metal gear solid games past 1 and 2. 3 was a different guy (Solid Snake =/=big boss, clone or not, after all Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him) And 4, the hyper aging should've changed his voice much more.

DragonKnight1689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

@Kenshin: How has his actions screamed bitter child? Even in this post there is only an implication being made and it has to be made by the reader. People are linking Hayter's comment to his Past with the series and coming up with their own conclusions. How is that him being bitter? And again, IF he were bitter, you would be too after 10 years of hard work and not so much as a "thank you for all your hard work, we're going to try this different approach with this character and won't be needing you for this installment." Anyone would be upset, and that's only IF he legitimately is.

"Whether or not his bitterness is justified is besides the point."

Actually, it's the entire point. How many questions a day do you think Hayter is asked about this game? How many people do you think flood his twitter with "you were screwed over" or "Kojima is a dick" or any other kind of remarks about this game? Even if he wanted to put it passed him, he can't because others won't let it go. And IF he is bitter, his bitterness is justified based on his treatment and thus any comment he's making is so justified. What makes you think it's NOT justified? Because it's not his game? Who cares? Do you think so many people are upset because Hayter is just some guy and doesn't matter to the series? No. Hayter is Snake and is just as responsible for the success of MGS as any programmer, or Kojima himself.

"3.No they don't need to justify shit to him. Regardless of how synonymous Hayter's name is to Snake, he doesn't own the IP or writes the story therefore he doesn't need to get any justification fore the change of direction."

Again, yes they do. Hayter's contribution to the series has been massive and a big reason the series is so loved. By your logic, Kojima is the only important person for the entire series and he could make the game a My Little Pony simulator and you'd think the input of anyone else wouldn't matter because screw everyone else, it's Kojima's game. No, sorry, it doesn't work like that. Hayter deserved better than what he got, which was nothing. Let's hope that you don't put over a decade of your life into something you think is meaningful only to have your superiors shrug off your contribution as meaningless and you as replaceable.

"Frankly I was confused as to why he was even in any of the metal gear solid games past 1 and 2. 3 was a different guy (Solid Snake =/=big boss, clone or not, after all Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him) And 4, the hyper aging should've changed his voice much more."

Good thing you're not in charge or the series would have gone to hell then. A clone is a physically identical person to the progenitor. That means identical vocal cords and identical voice. That Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him has nothing to do with actual logic and everything to do with A)Not paying one voice actor to play 4 characters with the same voice (though Bethesda seems to get away with it) because that would appear to be poor production value and B)That would piss off pretty much everyone when they hear 4 characters with the same voice, regardless of the biological logic of what cloning represents.

As for MGS4, their choice was to get Hayter to attempt an aged voice, or get someone completely different who wouldn't sound at all like Snake. An aged voice doesn't sound completely different so it wouldn't make sense to get someone else.

I'm really glad you have nothing to do with running the series, because if you had then it'd be even more all over the place than it already is, only with worse voice acting and complete disregard for the people involved in making the series great.

Nate-Dog1688d ago

@DragonKnight: There has been a huge number of tweets since the announcement of MGSV (and his lack of inclusion in the game) proving his bitterness over it. I'm not going to search for them to post here, they're all there and you don't need to look for any deepness in the comments. Here are few though:

"Ah well,

Can't fault @RealKiefer

Great actor, good man. The game will probably still be excellent.

Like New Coke!"

"But... you're not Snake anymore.”

I remain Snake in the same way that Connery remains Bond."

As for them having to justify it to him, he (ironically in his initial post about it) said "But the truth is -- it’s not my choice. Any and all casting decisions are the sole purview of Hideo Kojima, and Konami itself. And that’s fair." It's business. It's life. He of all people should know that you have to get on with it, as an actor and voice-actor. Still feeling a closeness to the series is inevitable and I don't blame him for that, but feeling entitled or harshly done by isn't needed.

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Lord_Sloth1689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

While it may be justified he isn't being very graceful about it assuming this isn't all just an act. If not then he's just insulting the biggest role of his career with his tantrum and potentially burning a bridge to ensure no more future jobs from Kojima.