MiddleEasy's Dave Walsh looks at how both the PS4 and Xbox One have been doing with incentives since launch and how Sony might have the better idea with launching new games for free via PlayStation Plus.
Quality will still decide this gen no matter if it's f2p or $60
Honestly, it's pretty cool that the best PS4 launch title (Resogun) was free on day one and that they keep giving away new releases like they are doing.
Heck, you could buy a PS4 and Plus and never buy another game again.
More games is always a good thing. With PS+ you get at least 1 new game a month. Add to that the FTP games and you always have something to play. Also like the variety of games they offer. Resogun Contrast Outlast Don't Starve All completely different games. Add in the FTP games and you already have a ton of games to compliment you Retail purchases. And if you have a PS3 like me, you probably have more games than you really know what to do with.
Really? I do not think the mass market thinks twice about quality games, nor how many quality games are on the console they buy. It is a snowball effect, especially now days with online. Once a couple friends have something, everyone else joins them. Everyone I know has a ps3 because of that, even the ones that just play CoD. Maybe you get some people that buy a console for a specific game, once again quality not accounted for.
I really hope you don't actually believe that?
I can see you've got a few disagrees but you are actually right. What people on the internet fail to understand is that a large majority of people only buy a console/handheld because a friend or a friend of a friend has one. They're not technically minded, don't think much broader than COD, Madden or Fifa and don't check the internet for details on up and coming games. To these people, playing games is just a way of killing time in between having a healthy social life. It's a snowball effect, just like you say and at the moment it's got Sony's name written on it, particularly in Europe. The only thing I would add is there are many vocal people on the internet who then spread the information to those who ordinarily wouldn't know, and 'educate' the casuals. BUT, for those 'in the know', quality DOES have an effect. Which is why I can't entirely agree with you. We ARE the early adopters after all and therefore we are also the influence you mention.
Guess my friends are different cause if i own something the idea of buying it immediately exits their head they just borrow from me. Then there are games they think i'm weird for playing.Stuff like Disgea, it's hard to explain to a guy that only plays CoD how worthy a purchase that series is.
Wow, lol, was not expecting that. Do I need to really go find all the links to 360 vs ps3 exclusive titles and their meta critic scores? It was a joke, yet how many units did the 360 move? SHOULD I really bring up the wii and its sales? Okay, I think my point is proven. @Gribble Yah there are always exceptions, like I said, every person I know that interacts with me on a regular basis owns a ps3 and has since launch, so we do influence the rest like you said. @Aceblazer Once again, there are exceptions and you are not a part of the mass market. Like I said almost everyone I know owns a ps3, some of them only get CoD every year still. Doesnt mean they get everything I Have. Which proves my point again, they do not care about quality games. They play the more mass market games that friends are playing. Most my friends play games on a very regular basis, yet still only play the big name games, most of which are 3rd party.
Actually the only reason Sony is giving out free games is because of its weak launch titles. Nay say all you want but it's the truth.
It's nothing to do with PS+ that's also on the PS3 and the Vita? Well you learn something every day. I can't disagree with you because you tell me it's the truth ... MisterX ->
Sorry pal. PS+ has been giving away quality games for years on the PS3, Vita, and now also the PS4. Its pretty awesome. Especially in addition to a strong launch lineup with exclusives and third party games. Nay say all you want, but *that* is the truth.
Amen to that, ps4 no games yet, but hopefully soon!
people wait over half a decade for a new console and you're bitching about waiting a few months for quality games, launch titles matter for a short window of time - when games start being churned out you're never going to reference launch titles again - milk that tired excuse while you can idiot
Wow dube you know been outed as nothing more than a butthurt Xbot....question...your that hurt because the PS plus members get something of quality, and value while as a Xbot and a XBL member they insult you month after month?
Sony is giving gamers different choices and more options then MS.i have both the X1&PS4 and there are more games on the ps4 and they free and fun. MS are too cheap with the x1 and their gold program is crap on the x1 too. people like to diss indie games&F2P but games like warframe,contrast,DCUO,resogun ,outlast,blacklight and don't starve are filling in those gaps while i wait for new games.
Liar liar pants on fire lol your fanboy trying to disguise yourself .
You sound like a child. Maybe you are (?)
Yeah i am fan of sony but i am also gamer that owns multiple console's and knows a good deal when i see one. I mean some people must have been drop on their heads as a child or commonsense is something they are missing. playstation+ is way better then live and it's crazy because MS has the most money they still finds ways to F themselves all the time.
Thee is truth in what he speaks. I'm an avid indie game and f2p fan as I've found a lot of AAA games of the last gen kinda went down hill... the only good ones were the exclusives and too many third party AAA devs were too focused on getting call of duty sales... But the ps4 has been offering many really good free indie games and my favorite f2p games dcuo and warframe. And now I get trophies to add to the experience with warframe! I'm having lots of fun with it. And what do so many people have against indie games? You know, the 360 had lots of indie games on the xbla that many Xbox fans always liked. Now this gen its like since ps4 has the indie games instead and some of the best indies too that they have been completely disregarded. Yea the ps4 doesn't have many AAA games at the moment but does the xb1 really have that much more?
@MetaReapre I think the common thought on indie games is that they are of less quality. I think that is changing, but it takes time. I love indie games. f2p on the other hand carries a really bad stigma, and I actually agree, a lot of f2p games ruin the experience because they are f2p. That is not to say it cannot be done right, hell I have played LoL for almost 3 years now.
youd have to be pretty dumb to get xbox one over ps4 after seeing the games you get free on ps3 with ps plus
it all matter preferences if someone choses Xbone let em choose it no one dumb for choosing something they prefer
I'm sorry but he's right. Someone is dumb for paying $100 more, getting less, having to pay extra for a charge kit, having all the basic apps locked behind a paywall and having no free-to-play or indie games to choose from if you don't want to play Modern 'Murcanism Shooter 2014. Heck, Digital Foundry even said that the PS4 does TV on your TV better than the Xbox One. Seriously? Why would someone pay more and get a weaker console, fewer games and lesser features that all costs more money unless they were dumb? There's just no excuse.
Halo, gears of war, Titanfall, nfl are all on X1 and all my friends and family. I will say that giving away all of these free games will hurt Sony and gaming in the end and will create a generation of gamers who will not buy AAA games, but wait for them to be free. This also will create pay as you play and more micro- transactions. Ms is doing it right buy only giving older games that have run their course. Of curse as a gamer Sony wins hands down in free to play area today but I think its not a good business or for gaming.
Xbox one vs free PS3 games, WTF. I only noticed on free PS4 game for plus. Don't get it twisted I like my PS4, but don't over hype stuff.
im saying eventually, and these are the games u get when there was free online, think of the free games they will provide with all the more money they will be getting off people now.
...is this a joke? $50 a year for free games that no one buys anymore, or already bought and beat...is why Sony is "winning"? Some people need to stop writing opinion pieces without thinking first. Maybe we should talk about actually upgrading PSN now that they charge for it....then we can talk
i think ur talking about xbox games with gold and thats actually 60 a year lmao would i rather have 5 year old games on xbox gold or like couple months old games with ps plus hmmmm lol
You obviously have no idea about the amazing free games you get with PSN plus. I sense butthurtness.
cmon murda dolls.. Thats some strong bitterness
The only joke here is what you have written. I also disagree with the articles assertion that sony is quietly doing anything. You'd have to be living under a rock to not know psplus kicks ass by now
Playstation 4 is the only console where you can get high/best quality games right now
that statement has so many holes in it
Disregard. I read it wrong
I hate the term "free games" with plus. They are not free, you pay a subscription that gives you what I call the game of the month club. Other than that so far the indie games that have come out for plus are excellent.
The thing about Plus is that although they're technically rentals, I doubt anyone who's signed up for the service will ever let it run out, such is the value for money
With a majority of the games you have no choice to keep it considering playing multiplayer is required to have it.
So they couldn't have just gone the ms route and give you nothing instead? Is that what you prefer? Or would you like some FREE games too?
Games with Gold gives people ACTUAL free games that they can keep.
Still dont understand how Sony is winning. I own both PS4 and Xbone and here has been my experiance PS4 Resogun 8 out of 10 (FREE) Contrast 5 out of 10 (FREE cool idea but its a glitchy mess but it was enjoyable) Killzone 6 out of 10 (id personally give it a 4 but there are people who enjoy it so ill put it at 6) Knack 5 out of 10 Those are the games ive played and honestly i havent touched my PS4 since November XBONE Powerstar Golf 7 out of 10 (Hot Shots rip off and thats never a bad thing Killer Instinct 8 out 10 (FREE and i purchased because it may be the best fighting game to come out in years) Max Curse of Brotherhood 7 out of 10 (Great platformer) Ryse 8 out of 10 Forza 8 out of 10 Dead Rising 8 out of 10 Killer Instinct Classic no score (it is what it is) TitanFall Alpha 10 out of 10 Right now XBONE is the system for gamers and i cant even try and think of a way to say its not. It has the Variety that everyone keeps saying the PS4 has but i dont see it. I am looking forward to InFamous like everyone else but thats about all i have heard is coming anytime soon.
I would love to play Ryse, but that $500 price tag is a killer for me.
I understand how Sony is winning. I own both PS4 and Xbone and here has been my experiance PS4 Resogun 8.5 out of 10 (FREE, for now... would pay to play_ Contrast 7 out of 10 (FREE cool idea but its a glitchy mess but it was enjoyable) Killzone 7.5 out of 10 (story 7, multiplayer 8 Knack 7 out of 10 Those are the games ive played XBONE Powerstar Golf 4 out of 10 (Hot Shots rip off and thats a bad thing) Killer Instinct 6 out 10 (FREE fighting games are not ment to be free to play, just release as a full game) Max Curse of Brotherhood 7 out of 10 (Great platformer) Ryse 5 out of 10 Forza 8 out of 10 Dead Rising 7.5 out of 10( pull it out a few times with friends laugh your ass off then you'll never see it again) For now and later PS4 is the system for gamers and i cant even try and think of a way to say its not. It has the Variety that everyone keeps saying the XBONE has. I am looking forward to InFamous like everyone else but thats just the start of what i have heard that is coming. The order 1886, Guerilla games RPG, uncharted 4, driveclub. Plus many studios with insane track records that are owned by sony to make games for sony with complete creative control.
You clearly do not own both systems lol hot shots golf is one of the best golf games ever if not the best golf games ever. Killer Instinct is a full game and not giving it an 8 is just fanboyish behavior and kill zone lol 8 for story??? Dude stop it your embarrassing yourself
@sliceoftruth I do own both, and I gave killzone's story a 7, so you clearly cant read. Hot shots golf is good but that power star golf was aweful, well I didnt buy it because clearly the reviews spoke for it. Plus killer instinct is not a great fighting game metacritic score is a 72 I think since it uses a bad free to play formula it deserves a 6/10
You should also consider taking these other PS4 games for a drive: Don't Starve OUTLAST Blacklight: Retribution DC Universe Online Warframe Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Trine 2
Got Trine 2 on my Wii U, right here. It's an incredible game. Some of the puzzles really stumped me from time to time, and the pages were really cleverly hidden; I still haven't found them all, actually.
I played all of those on PC and ps3 ages ago
"Free" games, but first 50 bucks please.
I already got what I paid for last month, now the new PS+ Instant games are "free."
Oh, and you have to keep on giving us that amount each year, because, you know, you're only renting those from us. You don't own these versions. So, yeah, hope you never have to cancel or, poof, there goes your collection. Sorry about that. (but not really)
Make sure you dont cancel you XblG too or you cant even play F2P game,netflix ,skype ..etc. And have fun Keeping those old games and eat's away your HHD..your gonna give us that amount each year too for XBLG to Used Onlin3.
@ Veritas Ayup. These are the reasons why I don't appreciate the paid services. The costs and inconveniences outweigh the few decent free games that pop up on them.
But don't worry. We'll keep giving you new games for every year you renew. So while you give us $50, we'll loan you you $500 in games, ballpark. The next year, you give us another $50, and you get another $500 worth of games. And the same deal the next year. We know you're smart, so we know you can see how this deal is in your favor. And how it keeps growing in value, the longer you maintain it. Also, if you DO happen to cancel, just remember that when and if you decide to resubscribe, everything you've "bought" is right back with you.
@Hicken And roughly 3/4th's of that supposedly "$500 value" are shovelware games. And the few which are worth keeping, you have to resubscribe back into the paid service in order to keep at all, and if you ever quit or the network ever goes down, well, you're SOL, because not all of those games will stay in the available lists forever. I'm sorry, but no amount of free games makes a difference here. Picking, Paying for, and permanently owning a ton of really great games > renting a bunch of randomly-selected games that you might not even want for a monthly fee that also blocks off online multiplayer. PC's got better deals than PS+ and Live anyways, on tons more games.
No reason MS couldn't throw us a bone every once in a while , as far as free games PSN wins but as far as a network/servers I think live wins.....don't have a PS4 (yet) but I absolutely hated every aspect of anything online with the PS3
OK so I have a problem with people saying that the free games on PlayStation plus is not actually free. While you do pay 50 dollars a year for PlayStation plus to be able to play the games they are free, not free to own but free to rent. Hell, I have a ps4 so I want to have PlayStation plus to be able to play games online. So technically to a person who has this mindset these games are free. They are an addition to be able to play online. Sony didn't need to give these games out, look at Microsoft. They made people pay just to play online for so long and they didn't give anything back in return.
I agree with that , MS sure aint the giving kind , but I cant imagine getting a PS4 or an X1 and NOT getting plus or live , unless you have no or crappy internet.
Best Launch Title was War Thunder and Killzone :D
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Outlast is super awesome, I can't believe is free. PS Plus is such an amazing subscription.
It's a $10 budget horror game that's been on steam for a long time, not unlike Amnesia, or a slender game.
Subjectively of course, I consider Outlast to be much more entertaining and terrifying experience over Amnesia by far. Making it much more than just a $10 budget horror game. It may only cost $10 on steam at moment but at that price that is an absolute steal for horror fans who have never visited the Asylum.
Quietly? Its the loudest and longest landing argument on the internet.
ill be the first to say, i just bought my ps4 today and got ps plus for the first time, and i was really glad to see outlast for free and the slur of discount on there. one funny things i saw walking into gamestop to purchase today was on the door was "ps4 in stock" "xbox one in stock" and then to left was put "xbox one on layaway" i almost died laughing and sure enough gamestop had tons of xbox one to the only 1 left after i bought my ps4. before i get tagged with ps fanboy, i played 360 up to buying my ps4
Welcome to Playstation! :)
can't beat the value in a Playstation. Its been the best money I have ever spent, every time.
I would agree that PS+ is offering up a better selection of games to this point vs XBLG but I will also offer up that it is not "free" for either service. You pay money to get access to these games.
The hurt level from Xbox fans is enormous! Calm down people. You can't get mad people all over the world chooses Sony over Xbox. It's just that Sony is possibly the strongest competitor in the console business ever.
I just bought a PS4. My free Games for it so far(not including ports of F2Play games from Pc/ and PS3)that are free because I spent $50 on a year of PS+ are:: A port of Flower and a Port of Flow that are free because I own the PS3 versions and they became cross buy games, Resogun Contrast (on steam) Outlast (on steam) Most of the + games are for PS3 or Vita anyway. I GUARANTEE YOU that had very little to do with why I bought a PS4. I mostly bought it to play Destiny in September.