The Order: 1886 Lacks Multiplayer, 30 FPS; Sony Fans: “It’s Okay.”

SheAttack: "I’m not here to say whether this game needs mutliplayer or not, or if frame rates and resolutions are important, or even which console is better. I’m here only to make an honest observation. Any issue with Sony seems to be casually swept under the rug while other issues with Microsoft and Nintendo are blown out of proportion and I can’t help but wonder, 'If the issues with the Xbox One were the issues of the PlayStation 4, would the gaming community treat Sony the same'?"

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NYC_Gamer993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

I really don't understand why any gamer would be upset about a quality game running at 30fps

GarrusVakarian993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

I cant speak for any other Sony fanboys on this site, but for me personally a solid 30fps has always been and will always be ok with me on both platforms (but i want MP FPS's at 60). Ive played numerous locked 30fps games on my PS4, the only time ive ever criticised an X1 games framerate is when those games are advertised as 30fps but turn out to run lower. I never have and never will criticize an X1 game for running at locked 30fps.

I also fail to see why people are acting like 30fps on an exclusive is the same as 30fps on a game that is on both systems. Of course it's ok for an exclusive to run at 30fps...but when a multiplat game runs worse on the more expensive console, the criticism is completely justified.

As for MP, im glad it's not in The Order 1886, as their first PS4 game, i want full focus on a great PS experience. Co-op and/or MP can come next time when they know the ropes a bit more. A horde mode would have been nice....but as i said, it's their first proper console game.

"'If the issues with the Xbox One were the issues of the PlayStation 4, would the gaming community treat Sony the same'?""

Lol, you must not have been on this exact website when last gen first launched. Trust me, Sony and the PS3 got it just as good as the X1 is getting it. Constant memes, constant jokes about how it has no games, constant bragging about how much better 360 multiplats looked.

TomShoe993d ago

Who cares? It's a single player, slow paced game. It's not a twitch shooter like Call of Duty.

30fps is fine.

LaChance993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

"I really don't understand why any gamer would be upset about a quality game running at 30fps"

Ask the hordes of Sony fanboys on this site. They should be more than willing to answer. Hey thats pretty much all they talk about all day long.

EDIT: at least now we know that after all 30 fps is more than ok :)

afterMoth993d ago

Xbox One fans are upset because it was pointed out that Tomb Raider runs at twice the framerate on the PS4. Xbox One fans then jump to the conclusion that it means Sony fans aren't okay with 30fps games. All things equal 60fps is better than 30fps, that is the only relevance to Tomb Raider. Sony fans aren't saying Tomb Raider sucks for being 30fps but the PS4 version is better.

ThunderSpark993d ago

We cannot judge The Order yet for being 30fps because it has not been done on any other system. For all we know, it might have to do with the sheer amount of other graphical enhancements and events occurring in the game.

30fps is not an issue unless it is proven to be capable of 60fps on other systems or consoles. Tomb Raider is a great example of this because it was 30fps on the Xbox one, PS3 and Xbox 360, however, was shown to be capable of a lot more on the PS4. Why should I get the game on the Xbox One if there is a better experience on the PS4?

All in all, this article is reaching. Xbox One fans are just tired of their console being compared to the PS4 and are now trying to nitpick PS4s exclusives. What happened last generation when exclusives didn't mean the PS3 was stronger, it was all about the multi-platformers. Now this generation is different? Talk about backpedaling.

Destrania993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Well said once again Lukas. I think the people disagreeing with you are being completely pathetic. The tech behind The Order is astonishing, the story is intriguing, and the gameplay looks to be exciting. Really stoked to see more. Xbots are just mad they won't be getting this game, and that their exclusives won't ever be able to achieve anything close to it.

Kingthrash360993d ago

@la guys said it was 30fps was bad in comparisons like cod vs. cod on ps4/x1..plenty of 30 fps games on both consoles but when staple mulitiplat games dont even out. the cod/bf4/mgs are better on pretty sure 1886 wouldn't run on x1 at 1080p hek prolly not even 30 fps...look at ryse, i prolly would have made 1080p on ps4...smh.

Eonjay993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

30 FPS means it has really good graphics. No multiplayer means its a story focused game. Like Bioshock.

Also single player was announced back in Oct 2013. Only now are people trying to attack this game because of it.

scott182993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

I think a locked 30fps @ 1080p is more than ok. If it was constantly dipping way lower than 30 that would suck for games...

showtimefolks993d ago


i think these same one complaining about xbox one's treatment were the ones bashing sony/ps3. Life is funny as to what goes around comes around

2006-2008 all we heard or read was how ps3 doom or sony failure articles, no way is xbox one getting the same treatment

dedicatedtogamers993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

'If the issues with the Xbox One were the issues of the PlayStation 4, would the gaming community treat Sony the same'?

Ooof. Let's rewind time back to 2005-2009.

'If the issues with PS3 were the issues of Xbox 360, would the gaming community treat Microsoft the same?'

And of course, we know that while PS3 suffered from fewer issues, it got much more hate.

New gaming gen, same argument. It is only natural for the most popular console to get a pass for its mistakes (for instance, hardly anyone raised a stink that PS+ is now required for some online multiplayer) while the less-popular console gets shat on. Doubly so, when you consider how much vitriol has been aimed at Microsoft over the last year (it's actually been building up since Kinect came out for 360).

Xbox fans, my sympathies. You're in for a rough couple of years. The same thing happened to early PS3 adopters. It's no surprise that it is happening to early X1 adopters.

Giul_Xainx993d ago

Why would it need a multiplayer part of the game?

Everyone just buys naughty dog, dice, and infinity ward games anyway. Why compete?

pyramidshead993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Bubble up for @aftermoth, knocking it out the park to put the whiners in their place.

Not to mention The Order is a true next gen game with a crap tonne of next gen features to boot. Tomb Raider was rightfully scrutinised as it's basically a last gen port of a multiplatform game.

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dirkdady993d ago

Lol it's all relative ain't it? It's not about running at 30fps or 60fps it's all in relation from one system to the other like if the order runs at 30fps on the ps4 if it were also on the xbox one it would probably run at 15fps for example.

jamestewart993d ago

For the X1 camp if they made this game on the X1 it would be lower frames than whatever the PS4 version will be.

Why o why993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Lukas and Aftermoth well said. You can state the same thing 50 times and some will still try their upmost not to get it so they can continue with fallacious points.

Repeat after me.....

30 is good but 60 is better;

30 is not so good if the other console is doing 60.

900 is ok but 1080 is better;

900 is not so good if the other console is doing 1080

BG11579993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Some people are really grabbing straws here...

Why people are caring for the 1080/60 fps thing in the Xbone? Well because MS at the reveal, at the latest E3, bluntly presented their console a "1080 and 60fps" console. All the games where presented has running in the Xbone and running "1080 and 60fps".
And that the Cloud was this super great thing that only MS could use to increase the consoles graphics.
When logical and knowledgeable people prove it to be a lie, MS and their followers kept on defending it wasn't. MS tried why all their capabilities to hide this, by not revealing the truth capacity of the console, speaking of cloud, inventing fake numbers, buying comments, future timed reveals, and all that PR circus.
Since MS'reveal, all their games have been downgraded and so did MS'fans expectations.

When the PS4 or any game was presented, no lie was said about resolution and frame-rate. Sony spoke of the raw power of the machine directly, showed the game on its on console.
At this point Sony has kept all their promises in power for the console. Games have been upgraded since their presentation.

Who should really be upset at this point by the Xbone's 720/900 and inferior multip, are MS'fans. They were tricked to believe they bought a more expensive console that would natively be able of doing 1080 60fps and it's not the case.
The conclusion, while MS'fans like to be lied at. Sony's fans prefer the better value and trustworthiness. Which is what is being given with 1886.

quaneylfc993d ago

The commenters were right in that Thurway post, there has been a totally different attitude to that of tomb raider and others not being 60fps when it didn't even matter.

this "issue" was explained a long time ago by crytek regarding ryse but no one seemed to get that answer because ryse isn't for their platform of choice. I'm just glad now that people will learn about the directors intentions on how a game will look without consorting to an argument on whats "better."

All it took was some double standards but its the age we live in and there is nothing i can say or do to change that ;)

FlunkinMonkey993d ago

Well said Lukas.

Wait wait wait, are XBone fans really trying to have a go at 1080/30 when the XBone struggles to even get 1080 full stop?!

These guys...

Gamer666992d ago

I agree that last gen Sony ate a lot of crap last generation but that was a lot of their own doing and over-promising.

Check out this Wired article that went back and reviewed the PS3 promises:

They promised that they were capable of doing games at 120 fps (Page 2 of the article)! Then, when they shipped many games couldn't even hold 30 fps. And here we are a generation later and the newest consoles are not even reaching 120 fps never mind seeing that on the PS3.

With all that said, I think that fanboys get too caught up in the marketing hype on both sides. Sony fanboys keep on beating the dead horse about 60 fps at 1080p, and now that Titanfall is looking like a solid exclusive and a lot of XB fanboys are making it sound like Titanfall is the God's gift to gaming.

The reality is this generation has a long way to go... And 60 fps is gravy not a requirement. Same with 1080p over 720p. And MS tends to bring better exclusives at the start of the gen while Sony brings the best exclusives near the end of the gen.

dantesparda992d ago (Edited 992d ago )

So the MS fanboys wanna start making this stupid argument, so they can look even dumber then they already look?! They understand damn well whats up, but they wanna act stupid so they can play their stupid little fanboy games.

killzone619991d ago

30fps is fine for platformers...but for shooters? no thanks.

games like CoD are so successful on last gen consoles because 60fps improves any shooter genre.

sony fans can disagree away but they havent experienced 60fps enough to realise its importance.

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G20WLY993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

"Any issue with Sony seems to be casually swept under the rug", said the awful troll site.

When was there ever even the slightest hint that The Order: 1886 would have multiplayer? Never, and that's why nobody has an issue with it.

30fps is sometimes fine, if it means greater fidelity. Some games, by the nature of their gameplay, are better with higher fps and lower resolution is a fair trade off.

Multiplatform games are a different story and this is where the author spins for the sake of flamebait. If one version is higher fps/resolution that the other, of course it is always preferable - if it's achievable.

Tibbers993d ago

"30fps is sometimes fine" but not in games where you control a camera (e.g. shooter).

Alexander1Nevermind993d ago

When was there ever even the slightest hint that The Order: 1886 would have multiplayer? Never, and that's why nobody has an issue with it.


When the game was debuted, I don't remember any mention of Multiplayer.

Killzone was slated to be 30 FPS and all I heard was fans say try and get 60 FPS if possible (which GG obviously did their best to try and achieve), which is the same they are saying for The Order 1886.

I think a lot of the issue with DR3 was that the game is 720p (if I stand corrected let me know) and it still had frame rate drops. The issue fans have with X1is its performance when compared to the PS4.

This article wreaks of butthurt MS Fan imo.

Godmars290993d ago

Because "gamers" have been all over such differences on multiplatform titles.

I don't need to say who or which ones...

Hicken993d ago

Because those multiplatform titles were performing at a lower standard on one console than on the other. Hell, in the case of Tomb Raider, it's a last-gen game, which should make it that much easier. But that's a comparison of multiplats, where you'd expect the same framerate and resolution.

No one has flat-out said 30fps sucks. Not one person, even the Sony fanboys.

If The Order were 60fps on XB1, then there'd be a problem. But it's an exclusive, it's running 1080p(though a cinematic 800p), and we have no idea just how much is going on, though there seems to be some destructible environments, if I remember correctly.

Please, PLEASE stop making connections that just don't work. It's NOT hypocritical to be critical of the lower performance of a multiplat and then be alright with a given performance of an exclusive.

webeblazing993d ago

what you mean by last gen game its a port of pc version. this have to be the worst response. its versions of multiplat game that came out that so called next gen consoles cant touch. do you have a last gen console? lol the stuff people was saying the didnt matter when pc gamers said did is now their goto move. funny right. im just saying people need to just chill its really getting pathetic on both sides. and no fanboys dont understand logic if it was a multiplat and ran the same the will go out their way to find something to bash the other with.

Prime157993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

It's always funny when xbox fanboys become what they hate in Sony fanboys.

Hypocrites? No, human, but annoying as (in this case) their comparing apples to oranges.

Sorry, but you are being EXACTLY what you attack in other articles.

Kribwalker993d ago

If it's an exclusive game it should be better then if it's a multiplatform game made for 4 different systems where they don't have time to properly optimize. I am going to bookmark this page for the next time you sony fanboys decide to pile on the Xbox one for playing an exclusive game at 30fps or less then 1080p because you all think it's fine if it's exclusive as The Order is 800p and 30fps.
IE ryse
Dead rising 3
Ect ect

cozomel992d ago


Dude are you stupid or something or just plain dumb? The Order isnt 800p because of some technical weakness, its 800p because they wanted it to be letterbox, they are doing it by choice not limitation . And im sure you know that, but are choosing to be an idiot about it. Then again aint all Xbot idiots for liking that sh!t.

As for your exclusive comment.
1.)Anything the Xbone can do the PS4 can do better, so if this game was on the X1 it would either be lower res or lower framerate or if it could match both the res and fps then it would be lower settings/quality
And 2.) All those Xbone exclusives perform horribly, the system can barely handle them, Ryse is 900p because the system couldnt handle it at 1080p (just like it had to be lowered from 150k per character to 85k).
And Titanfall is 720p with 6vs6 players. 720p should not be allowed this gen.

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badz149993d ago

wow, really? we're approving this kind of article now?

"The Order: 1886 Lacks Multiplayer, 30 FPS; Sony Fans: “It’s Okay.”"

I know, right? because the Xbone version totally running 1080p 60fps! PS4 is such WEAK SAUCE! oh wait...
there is no other version to compare it to! it's not like the game is gonna be 900p with unstable 30fps! oopps...

and since when is MP mandatory? where is this kind of article when Bioshock Infinite doesn't have a MP? it's wrong now when dev wanna focus on SP? GTFO!

Elit3Nick993d ago

that's not the point, he's saying how Sony fanboys will hound a xbox game when it doesn't reach 60fps but then they say it's fine when one of their games isn't either.

mkis007993d ago


I think people forget that Xbox one guys are the ones who started their 60fps war with bringing up how forza is the only 60fps exclusive. Meanwhile Killzone shadowfall runs at 60 during single player a lot of the time and im having a blast.

rhood022993d ago


No. People hound xbox exclusives that do less than 1080p and have fluctuating frame rates - sometimes topping out at 30fps.

People hound multiplats that show a clear differences in resolution and fps.

The one XbOne exclusive that's held a steady frame rate and/or maintained a 1080p resolution - Forza - shows a clear downgrade from it's E3 demo.

In those instances, people have asked why the compromises were made in the first place if the XbOne is as capable a system as it's supporters say?

Those are when people say anything.

Prime157993d ago

It would run 15fps on x1, or 1280x720 resolution on x1. And that's what xbots don't get about these conversations.

Or they could run the same as ps4 with no 4x aa. Regardless, the point is x1 has to sacrifice, and most people make those ignorant excuses.

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hulk_bash1987993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Right its okay because the game is a completely next gen game and it shows in the screens that were released, so 30 fps is understandable. And I say this with all platforms in mind. But a game like tomb raider, which is basically an upscaled last gen title, running at below 30fps doesn't seem right. That is the difference.

PoSTedUP993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

in reply to Lukas

exactly. the ps3 got it twice as bad last gen, where the hell was this author? people arent hating the fact of 30 vs 60 frames, they are hating what MS is doing wrong, their practices, and the fact that they have been spinning things on their heads. the hate was comming from 360 fans TOO. they had it comming to them, if you ask me. The Order being 30 frames is not a performance issue with the ps4, its a choice of the devs. lower rez or frames on multiplats compared to the ps4, or even below 30 frames X1 exclusives IS a performance issue apparently, and thats just another reason to hate on MS. i feel 60/1080 should be the standard this gen, but if some devs dont want do that then i have no control over it; if devs were hardly able to on my next gen system, id be pissed..

dcj0524993d ago

I'm more dissapointed than upset. 1080P with a LOCKED 60FPS should be the minimum for NEXT-GEN games
I can't wait to play infamous SS or this but they would be better if it was 60FPS. Nobody says " ugh killzone is 60FPS. I wish it was 30 so it could be more cinematic."

PersonMan993d ago

Actually, they just came out with an update that allows Killzone Shadow Fall to run at 30fps if we choose it in the options.

dcj0524993d ago

What exactly do you guys disagree about. State your case.

3-4-5993d ago

30 FPS is more than enough for a Dev who knows what they are doing.

They seem to be those kind of people.

creatchee993d ago

Every Sony fan is proving this article right without even realizing it.

As for me, I've always been of the school of thought where a good game is a good game regardless of frame rate or resolution OR PLATFORM.

Bathyj993d ago

Theres a difference between an exclusive game that the dev has decided to 30fps to push other areas, to a multiplat game (last gen no less) that can do 60fps on one console but cant do it on another.

This Tombraider thing has shown its not that 30fps on Xbone is bad, its just that its highlighting that PS4 is more capable, a fact some still deny.

Has for targeting 30fps on an exclusive, Im fine with that if its locked, but many of the Xbone games were criticized (rightfully so) for dipping well below that. 30fps per second is fine this gen in my book, but it should be the minimum.

If youre dropping into the low 20's or even teens, and youre doing it at a low resolution as well, its not really good enough. Before you disagree, tell my why low frames and low res as Ive just described is good enough.

webeblazing993d ago

it was a port of the pc version all these exclusives that yall are bragging about has been done on pc. so saying tomb raider is last gen when ps4 cant even perform on par is reaching. ill give you more. games that you consider last gen still havent been out matched with these so called next gen features. so when a game is made for all platforms dont pull the last gen thing out you @ss. ps4 didnt avg 60fps and the gfx effects wasnt as good as pc(expected its pc). and thats tomb raider, what about the other last gen games metro LL, crysis warhead, crysis3, bioshock3(i both can know it max but it looks completely different on pc). dont downplay the devs work. gamers need to start being humble. people on this site looking like savages

Bathyj993d ago

Um, no ones talking about PC. No ones ever talking about PC.

It was a game made to run on PS3/X360. PS4 can do 60fps and Xbone cant (on this game). That says more about the machine than it does about the game.

Thats all I'm saying is why the TR comparisons were such a big deal and why its not really relevant to compare it to an exclusive developed for a next gen system, was the point of my original post.

starchild993d ago

Nonsense. Almost nobody contests the PS4 being more powerful. That is simply an excuse you guys came up with to troll the XB1 gamers.

Also, Tomb Raider is NOT 60fps on the PS4. It has an uncapped frame-rate that fluctuates down as low as 33fps and as high as 60fps, but spends most of its time in the 40s and 50s.

"on the PS4 we see frame-rates regularly fluctuating between 40-50fps depending on the complexity of the scene".

EVERY game that is capped at 30fps would run quite a bit higher if the cap was removed. This would introduce judder, however, which is generally considered to be very undesirable.

If you uncapped the XB1 version I have no doubt that it would be running at least in the 40s.

So the difference in reality is more like the XB1 would be averaging around 40fps while the PS4 averages around 50fps. Hardly the mindblowing difference some of you believe.

But when you say "the PS4 version is 60fps and the XB1 version is 30fps" it sounds very dramatic. Too bad that it isn't accurate.

Tomb Raider on the XB1 has a very solid frame-rate. It averages 29.84fps. Essentially all games that are capped at 30fps have at least a few occasional dips. An average of 29.84fps means that it sticks to 30fps over 98% of the time. Games like The Last of Us didn't have nearly that solid of a fram-rate, yet they were still praised and immensely enjoyable.

PersonMan993d ago

Don't forget that TWO different studios worked on the Tomb Raider definitive edition port.

Could it be that one studio did a better job at porting the game than the other?

Sci0n993d ago

exactly, what the spinmaster xbox fans tend to leave out is the fact that multiplats are running better on the PS4 then the X1 and many developers have went on the record to say they got the best they could out of each console regarding the development of the multiplat games and the X1 version keeps coming up short. 500 dollars worth of a bunch of shortcomings regarding the quality of multiplats and soon will be AA first party exclusive games.

hulk_bash1987993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

30fps is fine for a next gen game in my book. Hell, Dead Rising 3 is one game that the Xbox One had at launch that I wanted to play so badly. But an updated version of a last get game dipping below 30fps isn't so great. Taking a quote for Digital Foundry article "However, with Xbox One dipping under 30fps - often in scenes where sustained visual feedback and consistent controls are really a must, the Microsoft platform clearly comes up short in comparison to its unlocked rival."

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MikeGdaGod993d ago

i'm more of a SP gamer, so of course no MP is fine with me for most games. i dont even play Madden or 2K14 online, i love franchise mode and hate when people send me game invites. antisocial gamer i guess.

i guess that why xbox online social features last gen never appealed to me

come_bom993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Sony fanboys will accept anything from Sony... unfortunately for the rest of us, we demand more from Sony, specially from their exclusives. Since most fanboys accept what Sony offers without protest, developers don't feel the need for that extra effort on their games.

I expected from this console generation almost all games to be 1080p/60FPS... and what we are getting is almost none of the games are 1080p/60FPS. I will not even mention that most X1 games are 720p... that's just sad.

This console generation is beginning to suck...

Bathyj993d ago

Since do Sony devs not "feel the need for that extra effort on their games?" Sony devs have proven to be some of the best performing in the business. Dont act like you had such high hopes and that is why youre disappointed.

And why if you demand so much from Sony are you so lenient on MS? Do I need to make a list of all the ways they disappoint?

Sorry, I'm not into lists.

Prime157993d ago

Says a guy whose computer runs tomb raider on medium and 50 fps.


come_bom993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Typical Sony fanboys. As long as their version of the game is better then the X1 version, then they are happy and Sony is doing a perfect job.

"And why if you demand so much from Sony are you so lenient on MS? Do I need to make a list of all the ways they disappoint? "

So you are happy and pleased with Sony, as long as they don't disappoint as much as Microsoft ?
I can see the people at Sony saying and thinking... "Our fanboys don't demand much, just as long we do a job a little bit better then Microsoft."
Well since i have the intention of purchasing a PS4 in a couple of months, i demand more from Sony then "just little better then Microsoft".

As for Microsoft, I've criticized them and the X1 in various occasions. I'm not interest in purchasing a X1 any time soon so at the moment i don't much care if Microsoft disappoints or not.

starchild993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Tomb Raider on the Xbox One runs at 1080p during gameplay and at a very solid 30fps, yet it was ruthlessly attacked and criticized for it.

Yes, I know that the PS4 version runs uncapped with a higher average frame-rate, but that is a negative thing for many people. A solid frame-rate free of judder is usually considered a good thing. But even if you overlook that aspect and say you like the PS4 version better, it still doesn't mean the XB1 version is crap, like I heard so many Sony fans say.

The fact is, if it is ok for Sony games to be 1080p/30fps then it is ok for any game. You can't apply double standards.

Kribwalker993d ago

Yet the order is 30fps and 800p

dragonyght992d ago

lol let me simplify it for ya in the Order 1886 case its a design choice and in Tom Raider case it wasn't proving by the fact that PS4 version is 60
is that clear enough for ya m8

XSpike993d ago

I totally agree & I expect to be playing games at 30fps next-gen and even the one after maybe even beyond that.

ion53993d ago

As long asthe game looks great, 30fps is fine. If it looks like shit (which it doesn't) only then would we be able to bash the game and the PS4

Gamer666992d ago

I don't either.

But, it seems that the Sony loving gaming "journalists" (I use the term journalists very loosely) and Sony fanboys have made it a huge issue since this gen's launch...

To me, 30 fps is the acceptable level, and everything above is gravy. I doubt that this gen will sustain 60 fps. Especially when truly next gen gameplay and (if) 4K games appear.

UnHoly_One992d ago (Edited 992d ago )

I think you guys are missing the point, or else just moving the goal posts to suit your needs as usual.

First let me just get this out of the way, I have no problem with this game being 30 fps, it sounds fine to me.

And I have no problem with comparing multiplats.

But... there have been hundreds, literally hundreds, of comments on this site making fun of Ryse or Dead Rising not being 60fps.

Those are exclusive games, and the same rules should apply, but apparently it doesn't work that way here. It's ridiculous.

I don't care that most of you have picked sides and you hate everything about Xbox, but if you aren't going to follow the same rules for both consoles, you just come off looking like a bunch of hypocrite fanboys.

This message is directed at nobody in particular.

Flames76992d ago

There you go you just said it.Thats why im a Xbox One owner.X1 games are all about quality and are amazing.The only bad thing is there are just to many of them and it breaks the ole wallet.thank you for saying that it is the truth man

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MELMAN26993d ago

It's weird how people are all of a sudden so passive when anything Sony related is involved.

Actually it's quite commical to watch!