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Submitted by OurcadeGames 414d ago | opinion piece

Hideo Kojima Trolls With MGS: Ground Zeroes Pricing

Hideo Kojima has been trolling us with the Metal Gear Solid series for a long time. Whether it was MGS 1′s Psycho Mantis reading the memory card on PS1, switching from Snake to Raiden without warning in MGS 2, taking away everything we relied on to give us entirely new gameplay experiences in MGS 3, controlling Snake as an old man (complete with aches and back pains) in MGS4, or putting one of the best MGS games in the entire storyline on PSP with MGS: Peacewalker, Kojima sure knows to mess with the expectations of his consumers. (Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

admiralvic  +   415d ago
This is one thing I love about MGS / Kojima fans, it seems no matter what they do he gets credit for it. History has shown that publishers (Konami) dictate price and while he might have requested a lower price, I could see Konami banking on the name. This much seems evident when you see all the special editions the game got.

To me, it looks like Konami thinks they really cash in on this game. However, I also wouldn't say they're totally wrong either.

Time and time again, we see short games that still get universal praise. For instance, Tearaway and an interesting looking game, but it was also very short. If you didn't bother to do really elaborate designs and explore every area of the game, you could easily finish it in 2 hours and many people would still consider it a game worth the same price. This is just one of many and something we've seen a lot from Platinum Games and many other developers. I'm not saying a short game can't be good, I am just saying that historically gamers tend to overlook length, replay value and such for something that proves to be awesome, which can still happen with Ground Zeroes.
rdgneoz3  +   414d ago
Journey won the GDC game of the year award. It was a short game that was priced well. Overall, people like good bang for their buck. If they're buying a short game, it should be priced accordingly. A lot of indie games get popular because they have a lot of value for their price. If Ground Zeroes was priced at $20 at the most, then people wouldn't care as much as they do when its $40.

As for Platinum Games, it's their luck. They create some gems in terms of action (their story tends to be iffy), but don't get enough advertisement. Mad World was a mature game on a family / kid friendly console, Vanquish was a gem, Wonderful 101 is the result of the Wii U's state and Bayonetta 2 will probably go that way as well.
alejandroelputo  +   414d ago
Hideo Kojima, one of the most respected developers... for trolling us? This dude is mad.

Off topic: I hope my asshole real life friend doesn't come to n4g just to f with me and my comments.
generic-user-name  +   414d ago
I like how everyone ignores the side ops, the console exclusive missions, the collectables and trials. Not to mention replaying them all and trying different methods as enemy patterns change depending on whether it is day or night. You can also try different difficulty levels and earning all the trophies.

I'll take longer than 2 hours to 100% this game.
Death  +   414d ago
I agree completely. I don't remember the last time I rushed through a game and enjoyed it or felt I got my moneys worth from the experience. Just because you can rush through in 2 hours doesn't mean that is how it should be played.
Blacktric  +   414d ago
That was one of the finest examples of grasping at straws I have ever seen.
Eamon  +   414d ago
Completely agree. Side-ops are by definition supposed to be extra missions that have had much less emphasis in game design than the main missions themselves. They're designed for past-time playing, not as part of the main campaign, since they re-use much of the main mission's environments and elements anyway.

Not to mention, most people play games for their main campaign then play a different game.
generic-user-name  +   414d ago
Whatever dude, you enjoy whining about GZ's clear time while I'll be enjoying the game for longer than most single player games that you'll play this year.
Irishguy95  +   414d ago
Meh excuse. While I agree with side ops, "Replaying" a game certainly doesn't count, and ****ing difficulty levels. One of the WORST ****ing things in gaming today. You should have teh option to play a game on teh hardest difficultly at your own leisure. Not by 'unlocking' a difficulty modes. That's one of the worst things the Action genre has introduced into gaming imo, locked difficulty levels.
generic-user-name  +   414d ago
""Replaying" a game certainly doesn't count"

Says who? You? No thanks, I won't let some nobody on the internet tell me how long I'll be playing this game. I don't care how long anyone else will be playing it or what they think "counts", I'll be playing this probably more than any other game this year.

And when did I say ANYTHING about unlocking difficulty levels?
-Foxtrot  +   414d ago
This is the problem is high up respected devs or people in the industry.

People think of the things they have done in the past, not of what is going on in the present.

"OH BUT IT'S KOJIMA, MGS WAS AMAZING, RIGHT DOWN TO MGS4"

Yeah...doesn't mean what he's done lately with the price, cutting it from the main game and even the stuff he did to Hayter was right.

It's like GTAV Online crap...."BU BU BUT...IT'S ROCKSTAR"
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NarooN  +   414d ago
Agreed totally. Just because someone has done something great in the past doesn't absolve them of present-day scumbaggery.
moujahed  +   414d ago
Aaahh Stfu about the price. if your not going to buy the game then don't buy it then complain about not paying for it. if your going to buy the game the voice your opinion about how much gameplay you're getting from your 20-40$ despite the main story mission being 2-5hrs.
Rich1631  +   414d ago
Dude...it's the trend this could potentially start. We got studios rolling out Day 1 DLC, DLC locked on disc, deliberately holding back content to sell later, and now this scam added into the mix. If this sells well, other companies will follow. This is deep and dry penetratration. Worse than anything EA or Activision has done.
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moujahed  +   414d ago
Yea and the Illuminati is pulling all the strings too huh? Just don't buy it then. I for one will gladly spend 30$ for my ps4 version from the psn. I could care less what people say because I know that I will easily get more than several months of gameplay out of this because the Metal Gear Rising Demo held me till that release, the mgs1 demo held me till that release and the mgs2 demo held me till that release... not to mention mgs3 hd for my ps vita has held me till Ground 0's. my money will be well spent, who cares what you punks say.
Rainstorm81  +   414d ago
Some gamers will accept anything done to them in the name of fandom....smh

I'm a big MGS fan played them all multiple times, and I doubt Ill pick this up especially when we all know there will be a phantom pain /ground zeros goty definitive version down the road....for 60$ most likely.....its inevitable

Edit @ above
It'll be 40$ on PSN
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Rich1631  +   414d ago
Should have been a $15 download off the PS Store like Crysis, Battlefield 1943, and Ratchet: Quest for Booty, etc.
moujahed  +   414d ago
Sigh... Now I understand how the Titan Fall fans feel, lmfao!!
Phantom Pain will cost $80 on last gen consoles and $100 on this gen consoles.
OutcastMosquito  +   414d ago
Whatever you're smoking, I want some.
HappyWithOneBubble  +   414d ago
Well I always take my time when I play video games especially MGS. If this game really takes 2 hours to beat then the way I play I know it'll be 6 hours plus.
ian72  +   414d ago
I don't get all the complaining.....a lot of full price games can be completed in around 2 hours if rushing through them.....and if you take time and play everything the game offers it can last 5 to 6 hours or more....this could end up the same.

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