Satoru Iwata delivered some incredibly insightful comments as to what Nintendo has planned for its future hardware during an investor briefing Q&A last week.
This is great.... right?
Come on hybrid handheld/home console!
That is not what this is as it would make no sense. What he means is that they will have a similar development environment and porting games between the next handheld and console will be easy.
If by adequately they mean, unlike like we did with the Wii on the Wii U. Then yes, it is great news.
Nintendo just needs to focus on adults. If they make Zelda, and Metroid for adults, and a real online pokemon for Wii U people will buy it. They just need to grow up as a software company!
I see where ur coming from but at the same time i dont think they should stop making the kid games. Those type of games are known to pull in big bucks too
Well Zelda has been a game for older people still yes they made wind waker to take a different approach but the core experience is still there. We may as "Adults" hate the art style but Zelda and Metroid has always been great games experiences that i have enjoyed over the years. They can easily make a pokemon rpg on wii u and still have the 3DS version a long side that would move units a lot if the games connect with each other some how.
Lol sorry if i sound out off place here I'm thirty four years old now ;) I'm play along every platform from PC till PS4. I don't regard Mario as a Kids game off course its aimed that way but still to this day i have some my best gaming sessions on that game be that an old one are one off the latest games. Add to that Zelda games are always an amazing challenge. It would be a massive loss imo if Nintendo just did what every one else did. I like consoles being as different from each other as possible. What would be the sense on spending money on them if they where all the same. Nintendo hits out at a market the other two doesn't do aswell as them. If Nintendo was to go software and i pray they never do. There would be a feeding frenzy among the top two consoles to see who could acquire there services. Cause they know what them characters mean on there systems. (Big money) People over the last few months have been here belittling Nintendo forgetting what they have done for gaming. I think that's a shame tbh.
" They just need to grow up as a software company!" Well that was completely irrelevant to anything you said prior.
Last time I checked, most people buying and playing Nintendo games are adults. As opposed to the others which are played primarily by middle schoolers.
I am starting to believe a console Pokémon game wouldn't be as successful as it's handheld predecessors. Being able to take your Pokémon with you wherever you go and play it on the train, on the bus or whatever is a huge reason why the game is so successful. I mean, I am sure it would work, but not AS good. Also, as soon as Nintendo stops making 'kids' games, that is the moment when they will no longer be Nintendo, and they will just be like Sony and MS. Ninty are great because they are a unique entity that provides unique experiences that neither Sony nor MS do. They just need to make a more successful console.
Using the word "adequately" in describing your next console is probably not a good thing.
Hell frigging yeah it is. Now the question is will it use mantle, will Nintendo buy unity 3d!???? Maybe some crytek juice! I wonder I wonder... This is very cool because they can release a few different consoles even a 4k one that upscale current games then the wiiu can sit at the low end while a new handheld could be the middle ground. 3ds on wiiu would be really cool also. This thinking wouldn't splinter the installation base ethier. The tech guys can throw money at a console and the handheld guys can go mini wiiu then you can get wiiu or just go out and get a fusion yet all games would be playable since the wiiu would be the core model and the others would just add perks features that other gamers may not care about.... All linked to an account that contains tons of games you bought. I wondered why the others haven't done this? What is also cool is the games would be scalable until the dev community moves on up the latter and starts to use the other bells and whistles from the new console. AMD is going 5 love this. This would move gamers of the tech latter and ultimately make dev use better tech at a better price for the consumer.
It doesn't need mantle since the API they build is close to the metal anyway. Mantle is more for PC's than consoles.
This changes things... 1 handheld and 1 console that "share" software. Likely the handheld having lower in graphics and the console being higher. Just think about that for a minute. No more dividing the First party talent because of the two platforms. That means more games coming out in a less amount of time for each platform. Look at the great year 3ds had compared to the wiiU. Imagine if nothing else just the first party games on the 3ds had a console version and vice versa. I think you see my point of the EPIC POTENTIAL this has. Similar architecture that allows for dirt easy scaling to the multiple systems. I can only fault nintendo for not doing this 2 years ago but im very interested for whats to come.
I can't believe it....Nintendo actually seems to be listening to their critics.
I'm sure they had this planned long before any critics emerged. They merged their teams early last year.
Dude...other than their handheld business, Nintendo has been getting criticized from all sides since the Wii died...and 3rd party stopped supporting it...about 3 years ago.
Third parties stopped supporting them 17 years ago. Financial records show that even in the best of times, third parties were never their biggest source of income. It was their hardware followed by their first party titles. The Wii didn't die. Nintendo just stopped supporiting for it when the Wii U was announced. Nintendo killed the Wii to make room for their next gen console. There is a difference. Not that I see what any of that has to do with what I just said, which is about them merging their development teams.
All i ask is to please make it a real next gen console. The sales will be through the roof.
That is a possibility , not a guarantee.
The next Nintendo console will most likely be on the same level as current gen[PS4/X1]hardware
That would be first. Their last console and current are both above the last gen tech, simply not as far as their competitors being that Nintendo wants their hardware to be affordable. I don't see Ninteno releasing a $400 console. They will release a stronger console that is still within an affordable price range.
I agree, the Wii U is competing with the PS3 and 360 in terms of visual output.
WII U fanboys rage at me now but honestly i think a PS3 is a way better investment than the WII U 1.) It has a ton of amazing games and a huge library 2.) its graphics are top notch 3.) Its affordable 4.) Its still getting plenty of games and has full support 5.) The last of us and gta v
Just don't release this too soon...
this is what they shouldve done in the beginning
@MegaRay "This is great.... right?" you bet it is: example: "When this happens, home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems." just look at Samsung with its GS line, Apple with its iOS, Google with its Android, Valve with its Steam OS, Sony with Playstation Eco system Remote Play, Microsoft with surface and smartglass combined with Microsoft's xbox platform's. If you noticed they all are putting in Quite the investment's into making a better over all Eco system. Now picture a well more advanced ECO system for Nintendo based products, in my opinion they already have a great entry into this already, with more work needed all the above companies Eco systems all need more work. Nintendo investing into more of this Eco system build, shows they are going to make a more unique gaming experience that pretty much you already get with Nintendo anyway, just more unique set for Nintendo products. This is a very good thing, cookie cutting is and has never been Nintendo's way, and why start Now? This is a fantastic move to see what nintendo will do with it. I have Nintendo DS, Lite, XL and the only reason i do not have the 3DS because im really happy with my PSVita, not to say i will not get a 3DS later because i most likely will, but the fact that Nintendo is saying what they intend to do with allowing 3rd partys to make use of Nintendo iP products to build maybe a fresh take on those Nintendo 1st party held iP's. Now not to say it could not be flops on those fresh new takes, but its still a very good thing Nintendo is doing in my opinion to gather more options open for development for Nintendo Platforms, Picture as a idea: Steam Punk'esk "Mario", where Mario is building custom weapons taking on Gruesome Monster's in a full 3D of the sewer system sorta like offering a Monster hunter "mario" all combined with a very dark and scary setting.
Next gen, they should make a standalone gamepad instead of two platforms, and add an HDMI output for TV. They can make the OS a custom build of Android so that all Android apps work on it beside its own game library.
Exactly. Which is what Sony should have done with the Vita.
Here we go again, Gamecube part 4 on the horizon and it will cost way more than it should and still be underpowered as f'ck. But this is Nintendo we're talking about and this is par for the course.
GameCube part 4?
I think he means: Original gamecube=part 1 Wii= part 2 Wii U= part 3 Next nintendo console= part 4 He's basically saying they all suck. I could be wrong tho
He couldnt mean underpowered, because we all know that Gamecube wasnt underpowered.
The gamecube was a great console, it was not a technical problem, a price problem, or a games problem that stopped that console from going big, it was how Ninty sold it to us. I owned a GC, and loved every game I played on it. I wish it lasted a bit longer.
Screw the Wii give me GameCube 2
It was quite obvious, Nintendo were spreading themselves thin by supporting a console Plus a handheld with fundamentally different development processes for these two platforms and with no meaningful 3rd party support. They simply can not push enough software for both platforms at a steady rate especially at the quality standards they are known for without sacrificing support for one in order to make the other soar (Wii U and 3DS respectively). By streamlining and fusing the development process for the two platforms they can make game production smoother and more prolific, and if you add the recent comments of Iwata and Miyamoto regarding possible mergers, acquisitions and collaborations with other developers, Nintendo could be onto something big in the not too distant future! and as I said before "Fusion" makes sense for Nintendo.
So are they abandoning the wii-u?
Maybe not entirely, but it doesn't seem like many devs want to create games for it. It would look bad to abandon it so early into its lifespan. They would lose the trust in their ability to make a system and properly support it.
At least they've acknowledged that the WiiU may not be salvageable. Also, there sure is a lot of talk about what is coming after. I hope this epiphany is part of a larger strategy that brings satisfaction and value to current WiiU owners otherwise they stand to lose a large portion of their consumer base that expect more.
The wiiu is going to be the bases of the next handheld and their next console. Think pc games that upscale and max out their settings when new hardware comes out. Rolling hardware updates a modular system where the specs keep rising. If you want cheap you go low end yet if you want or need more enemies on screen and 4k you go high end instead of cramming a high end game on to a badly adequate console. So this means they could go gpgpu for all of their new hardware. You could just switch out gpu and add more ram and another core, hell they could make it work with android os too, then Google doesn't need a console push they can stand side by side with Nintendo. Most real gpgpu coded games are extremely scalable. So basically they are saying the wiiu is going to be where they establish the core of this experience then they will expand from there.
I think that the next handheld console will be a be a mash up of the game pad.imagine the dual screen coupled with a home console. You would get a handheld as powerful as a wiiu and a home console more powerful than a ps4. You could sell it for 500.00 plus and then sell the controller stand alone as it could function as a hand held. Take the handheld away you get a drop in performance bring them together and not the system becomes a technological beast. You buy software for the home console and you can download up to a few games to.go portable. If they create a device like that it's officially a wrap.
So in other words Nintendo is going all portable.
This isn't really what they said. In my opinion they need to create a hybrid device. Something like what the Wii U was meant to be, except make it like what the Wii U was meant to be. When I first saw the Wii U I was like "Wow cool, so I can take the gamepad portable and play DS games?"..."no?... oh well, there goes my purchase". Make it a handheld powerful enough to display next-gen quality titles, and give it extra features/capability whenever it is incorporated into the home entertainment part of the "console". It's time for Ninty to recognise what they do right, and what they do wrong, and to be blunt they do 2 things VERY right: 1) Fun, lighthearted and accessible games (people sometimes refer to them as kids games), and 2) handhelds. What they do wrong is simple, consoles.
"It of course does not mean that we are going to use exactly the same architecture as Wii U, but we are going to create a system that can absorb the Wii U architecture adequately. When this happens, home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems." Sounds like he is talking about the rumoured Nintendo Fusion!
This is exactly what nintendo needs to do
It is hard to believe they are just now figuring this out and/or just now creating an action plan for it. They released the 3DS w out software support- they released the Wii U in an incomplete state and w out software support- losing 3rd party support should not have been a surprise either- The only reason the Wii U had a good launch its first month+/- was due to Nintendo hyping games for the launch window they knew would not arrive and hyping 3rd party support they did nothing to attract and maintain. I, along w many others bought the Wii U at launch based on the strength of the announced launch lineup and commitment to 3rd party support- (the Wii/Wii-u/3DS are our only consoles) so getting at least a porting of the better multiplat games was important- Why can t they at least get Minecraft- do what it takes as it is a perfect fit for Nintendo, its family audience and the Wii-U
So a portable console? This would be Nintendo best bet they would strictly make games on one platform i'm intrigued to how this is gonna work.
This is not even a hybrid. It's a true platform. I just bought a bunch of Samsung stuff and bam all my apps are right there. This means you can up grade when you want and you won't loose your games. The wiiu can be the base that lets you play, wiiu, wii, 3ds, ds, ngc, gba, n64, snes, nes and the handheld can let you play wiiu dual game pad games plus normal wiiu games, that is all of the past consoles and new fusion handheld games. The they could release a wiiu fusion which is just a wiiu designed for 4k and 4 fusion handheld gamepads. Then everyone one in your family could take a game pad with them or they could see it all in pieces. The wiiu fusion wouldn't break up the market ethier since it will play all of the old games also yet in 4k or with a head mounted display...would developers use that much power? Nope. They simply ask for it because it makes things easier. You've all seen what the dolphin emulator can do... just think what an official powerhouse could do. On top of it all you got tons of games still coming for the wiiu and 3ds and fusion handheld all playable on a true master system pushing 4k output and other costly tech until it becomes cheap then the march continues! People in the high end are happy and so are the low end and handheld guys. Oh and please let's us setup our own game servers if we own a master console and mods would be extra sweet!
If Nintendo were in half as much trouble as n4g is posting, they would be ruined forever. Thankfully some of us can see through this fanboyish crap that pollutes n4g every day.
Interesting......changes are always welcome if they are good for gamers.
-_- Guys, this news is old lol. Nintendo merged their console and handheld teams, or were talking about it last year lol.
Sounds good to me. Backwards compatibility is a must for me.
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