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Pachter: The Problem With Steam Machines Is Linux-Based SteamOS

GR: When Valve announced Steam Machines, many were concerned about the slew of different models that will be available to consumers. With so many different options and price schemes, it seems as though it may be bit muddled and perhaps problematic for Valve's new software platform.

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BluP3734d ago

I hate to agree with him, but I think he's right. For now, the vast majority of Steam games are on Windows. Of course, you could just install Windows to a Steambox, but then you might as well just get a PC.

I hope more games get ported to Linux though. The only reason I keep Windows around is for emulators (which Linux has too, just not as good) and Steam.

SnakeCQC3734d ago

Valve is a dev with lot of experience; im sure they have something in mind to retroactively fix all the compatibility issues.

ChickeyCantor3734d ago

Valve isn't doing this to be a pain in the ass. If they pull this off more games will be cross-OS. It will widen the market to non windows users. Which is a good thing for everyone(cross-play is usually not a problem between different operating systems ).

You can still stream your PC games to your steam-box. Sure It's not the same thing but it is a solution that works for now.

ABizzel13734d ago

Steam OS using Lunix isn't the problem. There's a decent pool of games on there already, and like a new console it takes time to grow.

The problem with Steam Machines is the fact that their nothing, but regular gaming PC's that any PC gamer can go out and buy build their own for less than the majority of the asking prices. Only two of the many Steam Machines are worth the asking price.

$500: Dual Core APU + R9 270X + 8GB DDR3 + 500GB HDD
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com...
$1500: i7-4770k + GTX 780 + 16GB DDR3 + 1TB SSD
http://www.ign.com/articles...

The rest are overpriced, and poorly designed PCs that you can buy from anywhere for the same price. Alienware is the final hope, but holding your breath for a $500 price with better performance than the Cyberpower Steam Machine will likely end up with you passing out or worse.

That's the real issue Steam Machines face, beside the fact that there's 20 of them, and no curious console gamer is going to wade through tons of PC specs. to know if they're getting a good deal.

The majority of newer games are coming to Lunix Steam from now on, but Steam Machine was a HUGE missed opportunity for Valve and the Lunix community.

Valve should have worked with CyberPower to produce a AMD Steam Machine with Mantle as the back bone, a FX 6300 CPU, R9 270x GPU, 8GB 2133MHz RAM, 1TB HDD (Hybrid) for $500 and that would have been something to make gamers jump on board. It's a great mid-range PC at an amazing price, with an great looking case, that's upgradable, and would have been an amazing seller. A more powerful NVIDIA Steam Machine for $600 - $800 could have been made as well (i5-4670k + GTX 760 + 16GB 2133MHz DDR3 + 1TB HDD $800).

Somebody3734d ago

It's a bit too early call it dead upon arrival especially when it's not even out yet. People scratched their heads when Steam came out but look at it now.

Google's Android was deemed to be in troubled water it came out face to face with Apple's iOS. It was new, developed to be open across a million configurations of hardware and had almost zero apps. Sounds familiar? It's the same playbook Valve is using for SteamOS.

Mystogan3734d ago

Steam machines are just PCs.

check out Project Christine from Razer. And witness real innovation.

BluP3734d ago

I saw that. Looks interesting. Keeping an eye on it.

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JasonKCK3734d ago

The only problem with Steam Machine is it's not out yet.

cyguration3734d ago

Yep. If I get a new PC I will probably get a Steam Machine and hook it up to the TV.

AnEwGuY3734d ago

Why do you need a Steam Machine ? I've had my PC(s) hooked up to TV since 2005. BTW, I already own a Steam Machine....works wonders on carpet stains. and tile floors. ;)

AnEwGuY3734d ago

LOL @ disagrees by people who still game sitting in a swivel chair, with their face 2 ft from their monitor.

ABizzel13734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

Why would you get a Steam Machine when you can build your own for less, and better.

Only 2 of the Steam Machines are decent deals.

Just download Steam OS, which is already out and you have a Steam Machine, like AnEwGuY was saying.

cyguration3734d ago

@ABizzel1

Well, I kind of wanted one of those console-style form-factor cases. I think they look cool.

Mystogan3734d ago

Check out project Christine for real innovation.

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pompombrum3734d ago

Pachter really needs to overcome this habit of stating the obvious.

Capt-FuzzyPants3734d ago

All of these articles come from the Gametrailers videos where people ask him questions. Its not like he just goes on the internet and says something obvious.

aliengmr3734d ago

So how are you to build an install base with out releasing the product to build that install base?

Valve is not looking for the quick turn around. Going up against Windows in the PC space is going to take years. Windows is the standard with no competition and has been that for many years.

Its only a problem if you believe the Steam Machines must rival console sale on release day. That isn't going to happen, nor is Valve trying to do that. They will let the community slowly push the concept until its the norm.

Somebody3734d ago

Just like Steam. It took years with little to no competitions but now it's the benchmark for others to beat.

AnEwGuY3734d ago

Everybody knows that, Pachter. But did you know auctioneers make bad grocery store clerks?

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Why the Steam Deck won’t flop like Valve’s Steam Machines

You’re not having deja vu. Six years after launching a line of Linux game consoles that went down as one of the biggest tech flops of the past decade, Valve is trying once again. Only this time, its Steam Machine dreams and unusual touchpads have been rolled into a 7-inch handheld PC that looks and works like a Nintendo Switch.

Here are six reasons why this isn’t Steam Machines all over again — and, a few brand-new reasons to be skeptical.

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Steam Deck looks great, but Valve’s hardware track record doesn’t

Steam Deck comes from a company with a mixed reputation for hardware.

Valve may very well have a hit on its hands — but many fans thought the same thing back in 2014.

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Christopher1009d ago

At least they're trying. They could just keep pulling an EGS. I think this is Valve's answer to cloud gaming, though. I don't think they want gamers streaming from the cloud, they want them on their storefront. So, if that's their reason, they'll likely support this more than they have past endeavors.

VivaChe1008d ago

I actually used the Steam controller and it was alright.

Kryptix11008d ago

Yea, this is a weird article.

It's an impressive piece of technology watching IGN's coverage on it. I want to say that the build quality is similar to Vita with the horsepower of an Xbox Series S and that's very impressive.

The only downside is the battery power. It's not very good and mostly meant to be played to fill in some gaps, but I like the idea of taking your "PC" to a friend's house for some side co-op.

John_McClane1008d ago

Same here, it's a well made controller.

Outlawzz1008d ago

I feel they want to start the new era of portable PC gaming. They said they would offer the customized steam os for free to any companies that want to make their own portable machine.

Somebody had to get the ball rolling is what I took from that statement lol excited for the future with handhelds since I'm a primarily handheld gamer.

TheColbertinator1008d ago

Portable PC gaming is a good direction for the future.

--Onilink--1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

While I applaud them for letting SteamOS be free for anyone else to make similar machines, its honestly not even remotely possible to get anywhere close to the pricing of the Steam Deck, which was the same problem that they had with Steam machines.

No other hardware creator has a digital storefront making billions of $ to allow them to sell hardware at a loss and just recoup the money elsewhere, or work directly with AMD to make the APU as custom as necessary.

So yeah, maybe we might see a couple of alternatives from other companies, but they will be even more expensive

Duke191008d ago

The hype around this thing is wild to me. It screams “new toy to use for a few months but then go play steam on my pc”

Ataraxias1008d ago

That's the thing right? As a PC gamer, you have your desk set up to compliment your experience - high end monitors, sound system/headphones, gaming chair, keyboard, mouse, etc. Once I give that part up it's missing a lot of the apeal.

Duke191008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

For sure, and to people that will get their money's worth - thats awesome. I look at my steam library, and to ditch mouse/KB and play on a small screen... I would much rather go to a cheaper gaming laptop before this type of mobile setup personally

ScootaKuH1008d ago

No because my alienware PC is quite old and isn't really capable any more, I don't want the expense of getting a new PC for gaming but I also don't want to lose access to my Steam library so the Deck is the perfect solution to that.

MadLad1008d ago

I can make a lot of use of this, personally.
My work has me traveling often, so just even those plane rides justify my grabbing one of these.

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Thundercat771008d ago

We will see. The market is unpredictable. You cannot rule out the power of a platform with good exclusive games and even when I don't support Nintendo anymore there is no denying the power of its exclusive games.

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SteamOS Is Not Dead as Valve Focuses on Bringing Vulkan to Every Platform

Valve, the company behind the Steam platform, spoke boldly about its SteamOS plans in the past. It was all about creating an operating system designed from the ground-up for gaming and adding this operating system to hardware known as Steam Machines.

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Vulkan will become standard when the PS5 arrives.