Gaming Blend "The biggest rumor to catch traction and create a ton of discussion lately, is one about a disc-less Xbox One, or what I like to call “Old ball-less”."
This will not help at all. Removing the disc drive to compete with Sony in pricing may resolve your pricing issue but it opens the door to another reason why not to buy your console. It doesn't have the power of the PS4 and has no bluray drive. Only thing they can do is eat $100 more of the cost of the unit and sell it at $399 and hope there exclusives keep people buying there product.
People will have the choice between the complete package and a crippled, inferior console. Wonder what they're going to buy. I for one don't see the value of getting a Xbox One at all if you already own a PS4. Spend your money on a good PC or a Nintendo console instead.
I don't know which is worse, this or that 12GB ps3 sony was selling.
Removing the drive leaves you at the mercy of Microsoft and other publishers digital content pricing models which they would completely control on such a closed platform. You would surely have to be a madman to submit yourself to that considering the way games are still priced on the store. Talk about a false economy, saving $100 on a machine with no drive, you would probably lose that by the fixed digital prices within the first year of owning the machine
Nope, games are now 50gb and my max is 200gb/month,, secondly it would take at best 20 hours to download. Throw away the Kinect and make a 1tb model and yeah I'm happy. I'm probably gonna buy the normal one at the end of the year anyways
Judging by ms's original dastardly plan, I'm guessing ms would love you to buy it. Parity on price would help for some but its never only about price is it. Simple deduction would see the varying values nkt being on par unless you totally love all that kinect brings.
@johndoe11211 definitely this BD drive-less is worse! with the 12GB, you can put any 2.5" HDD to your liking and 1TB drive cost like what, $60? and you will have arguably the best multimedia device currently on the market! with this, you not only won't be able to watch BD movies, you can't trade in your games as all your games will be digital and the HDD is unswappable too unless you void your warranty. but hey, you get Kinect!
@Why o why, Microsoft indicated that their idea was correct, merely we ignorant consumers could not comprehend their brilliance because it was not properly related to the hayseed dirt farmers that compose the gaming demographic. I guess they are not through attempting to force their superior vision on us all. I personally think this is what happens when corporations become desperate. People can scream all they want about dedicated servers and Azure but if MS had anything in place even remotely resembling Playstation Now we would have heard them raving over it. And unless that feature is present and fuctioning the day this hits the shelves then this device is doomed. All this console is going to do is make some unwitting buyers angry and further give the MS Board reasons to dump or spin off the division.
So the all in one machine that isn't. Great thinking M$ great thinking.
Thing that confuses me is that in order to drop the price they would have to remove Kinect. Removing the disc drive and putting in a 1 TB HD doesnt drop the cost of production. Which is why this rumor of it being $399 has to be false. Unless Kinect is removed there will be no xb1 for 400 or less. If this is true than MS is either A. going to take a 100-150 hit on the console or B. They scammed the first adopters with an OP console that it is.
@johndoe11211: this is far different than the 12GB PS3, because you could buy it cheap then swap in a hard drive of your choice. And since most people do this anyway it makes perfect sense for them. The diskless Xbone is crippled with no way of changing that state. So apples and oranges really.
It would be the DRMbox1. $400 for a glorified rental/streaming device that can't even play a DVD/bluray disc? No thanks. That's retarded
Itll be like that arcade 360 unit again, except much worse...
@10ddWorld, You guys continue to tout all this PS4 Power when there are zero next-generation games on the PS4 that display 1080p "native" 60fps power in 1 single game in both online & offline modes. None! Yet, Forza 5 is the Only 1080p "native" 60fps next-generation game on either console. All PS4 can give are last-generation ports in 1080p with fluctuating frame rates. Ports. M$ doesn't need to lower price as they have: TitanFall & Halo 5 on the way to drive sales. Also, the PS4 was touted as easy to program for Where's Drive Club?
@otherZinc Forza 5? Don't make me laugh. That game is barely next-gen: 1) It's a racing game. The only important things the developers have to spend their time on are the track and the cars themselves. 2) To even hit that fidelity, they had to make several cutbacks to the overall product. 3) Gran Turismo 6 manages 1080p/60fps on the PS3, hardware from 2006. Forza 5 doing the same on next-gen hardware is nothing impressive. "Also, the PS4 was touted as easy to program for. Where's Drive Club?" Yeah. Sure. Because there exist no other reasons why a game might be delayed :P
@badz Very good point. You could still upgrade the drive in that ps3 model.
@otherzinc And yet your precious xbone couldn't even do 1080p 60fps on that last Gen port without dropping to frames as low as 18fps. Hmmmmm interesting system you got there.....
No Kinect for $399 yes. No drive for $399 no.
Remixing the disc drive would essentially make the PS4 the better all in one soliton. Why would they do that it? Would they still call it XB1 or maybe the XB0.
Sony are earning cash from each x1 sold i have read. X1 with no disc drive will be DOA exactly like PSP Go.
This is almost the dumbest idea they've had yet. Ok your on par with the price of the ps4 but you still have weaker hardware, and now you no longer have a disk drive which the ps4 will still have, there goes being able to watch dvd's, blu rays, and your ability to trade, borrow, and sell games. If your gonna take something away take out kinect, Just leave it how it is.
I guess a steam box = yes I guess a Xbox One.5 = no Mmmmmmmmmmm, I think it's in the name The company makes money in the install per unit and if they sell a Xbox w/o drive and the games remain expensive people will have their console but not games and that won't bode well with investors. The problem is, coming out this early in the game with a different unit. I'm sure that in about 3 years they'll come out with a console without a disk drive and an integrated kinect. Probably they'll wait for Sony to do it first so it's excepted, just like they are doing with the games in the cloud. Lol. They waited for Sony to come out with PSnow, it'll be excepted. They know it, Sony can do no wrong!
Omega - "3) Gran Turismo 6 manages 1080p/60fps on the PS3, hardware from 2006. Forza 5 doing the same on next-gen hardware is nothing impressive." Sony fanboys love throwing that out there, expcept that's a lie. 1440x1080 is not the same as 1920x1080, and on top of that, Gran Turismo only runs 60fps when you're doing time trials with one car on screen. Multiple cars cause it to dip to 30fps. Forza is locked at 1920x1080/60 no matter what. There was even a comparison done between GT5 and GT6 by digital foundry or whatever, and GT5 was in 1280x1080 and ran smoother than GT6. GT6 gained extra rez but lost fps.
My problem is with the kinect, take that out and make it the same price as the PS4 and then i'll be interested. I WANT a disc drive, i have no interest in going all-digital.
The 12 gig one still had a had bay that could be filled later. It was great for a 2nd or 3rd psi to play games with that were not splits creen
Your right... Tbh... I have an Xbox One... And the Kinnect is pretty much useless for me now other then turning everything on and off. The other bells and whistles crap...... that gimmick lasted about a week. MS should just drop the price to $399 for the complete package and forget about a Xbox One sans br drive.
I just like the feel of my discs when I hold them...
I just bought an xbox one yesterday, and so far the kinect doesn't seem to be worth the extra $100
"Xbox One With No Disc Drive For $399, Would You Buy It?" Absolutely NOT! Xbox One With No Disc Drive would turn the X1 in the console that Microsoft tried to implement before all the changes (not being allowed to play used games, always online, DRM, etc). Microsoft are really stubborn bastards, trying to fool their users. I would probably purchase a Kinectless X1 (with a disc drive) for 350€.
Are you saying that a discless XB1 would force you to always be online to play? How???? You don't need to be online now to play your games if you bought them digitally, so why would you then? And on top of that, any digital games you buy now already have DRM, on EVERY system, ps3/ps4/360 included. So what's the diff?
I agree. Although I want a cheaper xb1. There are still too many people with bandwidth caps and slow conmections , 60gb would be 20% of my monthly allowance.
Only if they drop prices for digital content from the market!! If its cheaper just to download it, then its worth it. If I have to pay full price, then I want a physical copy.