Microsoft will release a cheaper Xbox One this year, a well-respected source has told VG247, apparently confirming this week’s leaks out of Redmond.
The price cut would definitely help, but I think they won't profit if they cut the price to $400, they'd better release X1 w/o the shitty Kinect. But really, a price cut would definitely fire up X1 sales.
I agree it would really push sales,i know a few people who have refused to upgrade, they've been waiting for ms to release a cheaper model before getting one but kinect is an awesome device.i rather ms find some other alternative to reduce the price than removing it from the box.
even cheaper in the end of the day the console with best games and best tech will win.
The system with the best games will win....not a fanboy statement but more a gamer statement. When has it not been that way? Maybe the Wii but even then they had unique high quality games
If they get rid of the blu-ray and replace it with a 1TB and get rid of Kinect they may be able to get to 399.99. How will Sony respond? Is a 299 PS4 incoming? Behold the power of competition!
I'm not sure how effective a price cut would be. PS4 is still more powerful and by the time this price cut hits it has probably lots of first party exclusives announced ...would people want the X1 in such a scenario? And would it still be profitable for Microsoft? But I guess they'd do anything to defend their marketshare at this point.
I say stick with your guns with Kinect MS. You took a risk now see your plans through.
i know this is business but MS have no honor. they always said Kinect best thing ever for living room x1 cannot work without it tomorrow they claim absolute opposite. i hate people with no consistency in what they are saying and even for a 100bucks SKU i will never buy it by principe.
As long as its near the holiday 2014 I don't mind that I paid $600 for my bundle. My current games are just to hold me over as I stand by for Titanfall. As far as you all talking about Kinect, all I ask is that you not base it off of the kinect for the 360. Kinect is easily the second most important aspect of an Xb1. Talking to your system is pretty amazing and a great way to show off when you have company. Don't be so quick to down the Kinect, do you notice how you don't ever really hear XB1 gamers complaining about it.
I think both companies would be smart to release a blu ray drive-less system for less.
Can you believe Microsoft is seeking legal action against the leaker? Seriously this is someone who is a fan of Microsoft leaking out information for something that he loves. Playstation has internet holes everywhere in their meeting rooms... but microsoft has lawyers covering the exits of their own offices.
What!? The early adopters are so screwed and burn so soon? Wow just wow! Talk about early buyer's remorse! Nice damage control move M$... screwing your most loyal customers is another bad 180 move. I am sure the early adopters are gonna be really happy.
I said this would happen weeks if not months ago.
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If they removed Kinect and reduced the price I would certainly consider buying an Xbox One sooner rather than later down the line. If they remove the disc drive, that's the worst 'value' I could imagine. Leaving you at the complete mercy of Microsoft and their publishers for the pricing of games and content digitally. I couldn't imagine much worse a scenario at the moment than a disc drive less Xbox One.
I don't think its a price cut but they are releasing an alternative model with a cheaper value, i think it may be without kinect as that's the best way to reduce the price of the console.
Unfortunately for MS, there's really nothing else on the XBO they could cut without taking huge losses a la Sony pre 2009. It's impossible to cut anything on the XBO without pissing someone off. Just slash the price? Piss off MS higher ups and lose money. No Blu-ray drive? Piss off retailers and anyone without internet. No Kinect? Piss off developers and get called a hypocrite. If they were smart, they'd just bite the bullet and drop the Kinect, since it seems like the lesser of two evils. @Scott Blu-ray drives normally cost about $30 for companies, because of deals with manufacturers.
It's been pretty much confirmed that this will be a digital only device, still with kinect but no optical drive for 399... still not worth it. still has kinect. Also what about all those people who shelled out 499?? I want to know how they feel, less than a year later if it drops 100 bucks!
@joecanada they will bleed money on feet retry console sold a blu ray drive does not cost Microsoft 100$ plus they would up the hdd to 1tb. Although Microsoft can afford to lose money
@hellzsupernova Microsoft can afford to loose money BUT the Xbox gaming division cannot. Investors have been clamoring for reasons to cut the Xbox brand loose from Microsoft because they don't believe the investment is worth what it has cost so far. Without Microsoft's money coffers as a safety net the Xbox brand would quickly wither and die.
It depends how they cut the price really.. I have a feeling Microsoft won't drop the kinect and dropping anything else will just risk functionality imho. Lower capacity HD? No Blu ray drive? If they cut them out before kinect, they'll just be shooting themselves in the foot again.
No Kinect and no Blu Ray would work for me. I'm a digital only type of guy.
It would be hilarious if they release one with no Bluray. How many fools will buy one and realise afterwards that they can't play their movies or buy used games?...lol.
@ dark For what it's worth I do not own one DVD or BLU RAY movie and nor do I ever rent them. Can't tell you the last time I bought a used game. I use patience and wait for price drops and if it is must have I will pick up day one. And must haves for me are, at best, 2-3 games a year. So it isn't all that funny!
@darx the problem is u would have to wait for the prices of games to go on sale in the Xbox live store. Where if u had a disk drive u would be able to get the sale from any retailer and the Xbox live store normally charges msrp. In the long run u would save money still with the disc drive.
Microsoft is running out of feet. Shoot themselves in the knee
^^^ How can they be shot in the knee? There is too many arrows there! We'll have to settle with the thigh.
I would get one if Kinect is dropped and it costs maximum 400.
I agree at most id pay is 400 and even then I need to be assured they won't only focus on Gears Halo and Fable and Forza While I want to play the new Fable Gears and Halo, my X1 will be used for exclusives only so those are not enough to justify a purchase....I do want Project Spark and Titanfall tho Can't wait to see this years E3 unveils
while they'd make a loss on the box itself their attach rate is looking very good and that's where the majority of the money is made in the console business
first of all they must be able to predict whether price cut will actually increase revenue and profit.
Would such a early price cut not be a kick in the face to the loyal Xbox supporters who have already bought a Xbox1? Or are Xbox fanboys wanting to best Sony so badly that they would be willing to eat the $100.00(if that is what the price cut is).
Explain why it's shitty? I doubt you've even used it. I'll be the first to admit, I didn't want the Kinect because I never thought I'd use it. I figured I'd just hide it away and when someone broke theirs I could sell mine, put it on eBay, something like that. But the more I use it, the more I like it. Not having to wear a headset for online gaming, awesome picture quality on Skype, not having to go to the dashboard to setup a party, being able to unsnap apps without having to manually go in and do it via controller. That's just a couple things I use it for. To call it shitty is just being ignorant.
They will release this without a disk drive there will still be kinect.
This would be funny, it like there saying we lost it not worth 499 after all which is sad
i agree i think if they just gave you the option to buy without kinect, yes your missing the main feature but we should be able to decide for ourselves on that, not MS
it would be very interesting to see how a $399 xbox one compete with ps4. I think a $399 xbox one without kinect and Titanfall bundled in could give sony a run for it money But is MS willing to bail on Kinect 2 this early? when so much R&D went into improving it. I still think sony has a big enough advantage and in 2014 some huge blockbusters coming along with a stronger console. Competition is great for healthy business and best for consumers
They will release an Xbox One with a SOUND BAR, minus the Kinnect Camera. That will cut the price of the system down to close to $400 dollars. Pretty smart of them. The most used feature of the Kinnect is the voice commands anyway. Though I like the fact that my console recognizes me when I come into the room and logs me in. It's so easy to use voice to navigate, I rarely use hand gestures...Though when on the internet, hand gestures work great. I prefer having both, but the new SOUND BAR will keep kinnects best features at a cheaper price.
There doing it to coincide with Titanfall very cleverly done , though I won't be getting an Xbox One but to those who do I hope you all have great fun .
Hey man thanks! I'll definitely be enjoying it. Enjoy your PS4! I'll be joining the darkside(that what me and my dudes call playstation platform)soon enough!
It amazes me that people are saying "Stick to your guns MS, keep the Kinect bundled!" Seriously... why? Why should people be forced to pay extra for something they may not want, need, or ever use? If I had an XB1, the Kinect would still be in the consoles box and I would never consider using it for a second. Not only because I wouldn't want MS, the NSA, or a clever hacker having a birds eye view of me and my home anytime they please. But secondly, I find the concept of talking and giving commands to an inanimate device absolutely asinine. Plus it gives MS an excuse to have a crappy UI since the voice commands can be used to navigate quicker. But here's the worst part of it, if MS does as these people say, and they make sure every console is sold with a Kinect, then what does that mean? Perhaps devs will start using it and incorporating crucial gameplay features to it... which also means that for those people who refuse to use the Kinect, will be FORCED to use it in order to play certain games. Making Kinect as critical to playing a game as a controller is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. And I feel bad for those who don't want to use Kinect but are forced to when they play their favorite game because it is REQUIRED to actually play the game. Yeah but sorry, Kinect needs to be OPTIONAL in every aspect, including in games that may utilize it for certain features. This is good because if devs make some really neat strides in a game that uses Kinect, people can buy one if they want to ENHANCE their experience. But if somebody doesn't care about enhancements, they should still be able to play the game without it and have no loss of function. Forcing Kinect with every console gives devs the idea that they can incorporate features that require Kinect because they know everybody has one, and if you don't want to use Kinect, you will be absolutely screwed. MS would be making a huge mistake if they don't offer a Kinect-less version.
Agree that it would help the X1 in price. A bit of a gamble having no disc drive but I guess we wait and see. We should get an early glimpse of how a disc less console will do when Steam Machine launches. If it works for Steam, it may work for MS. Apparently it's not a good idea to be pro Xbox in Xbox news anymore. The Xbox section should just be renamed to the Xbox bashing section.
Well now, that was quick enough. Just hope it's not gutted compared to original.
They might sell a model without kinect, gamepad, HDD (but with built-in flash storage), HDMI cable. That would reduce price quite a little.
I would like to think they would sell a kinectless model, but with all the marketing and backing for the kinect, it is hard for me to truly believe that is what we will see. TBH the disc less route seems almost the more likely way it turns out. I just hope if they decide this route that nothing else is also sacrificed and that they continue to produce the original model.
interesting but me personally am still not interested as I already own the better console which is the ps4
Your are a fanboy , I own a Ps4 & adore it but I'am not saying I have a better console than you grow up . Like Comedian Harry Enfiled sketch "We Are Considerably Rich Than You" !
Its needed.. Doesn't matter how well people here say its selling, ms want it to sell more then 'well' I guess we'll have to wait and see when and if this actually happens. As not to stunt sales, Ms will deny it unti it happens. Seems early to be talking about sales but in business you do what you must. In the grand scheme of things, we're the beneficiaries if the console many are complaining is too expensive, comes down in price if you wanted it of course... Edit..... if sony said they'll drop the price lower than it already is, do you think those who don't own wouldn't be pleased? Like I said, its early but maybe ms want quicker sales and feel that sonys price is swaying potential custom away
How about a smaller sleeker redesign to go along with that price cut. I would prefer Kinect removed than an optical drive. You can always pick up Kinect as an add-on.
Mmmmmm sounds good, hope it ships to South Africa not too long after it releases, I'll definitely consider buying a cheaper Xbox one
No way man, a further gimped version of an already power gimped original Xbox One sold at the same price of the ps4? Not a million years. Sa gamers are ripped off enough by telkom let alone allowing ms to join in. Ps4 for me
Have to agree I'm waiting for another shipment of PS4s to release in SA so some of my friends can join me on PS4
Yea that's true. I have a ps4 already though... I jshould have mentioned that initially
Halo 2 AE... PLEASE BE TRUE!! And please contain a completely untouched mp too. If they do that, I'll definitely be buying an Xbox One for it.
I doubt the MP will be untouched, while i loved HaloCE AE...but many of the classic mp maps were missing which hurt
Halo CE AE was ruined though because of the fact they just added mp maps for Halo Reach. They done that in fear of Reach population dropping. Seeing how Halo 4 is currently doing, they probably won't have the same problem because most of the people who are craving for their Halo 2 MP fix quit that game a long long time ago.
Why does Microsoft keep releasing consoles that are not 100% compatible with all games? Do you remember when they released a 360 with very limited disk space that made some games impossible to install? I don't a disk-less console is the solution. Just lose the kinect.
If it's the disc less version then I could see MS having a lot of trouble selling it, especially after the fiascos from before the launch.
Damn already a price drop?? LOL
Most consoles get their first price cut within year one. Some just need it more than others. Edit: for those that disagree, PS3 is a good example, UK released March, price drop Oct (7 months) Original Xbox, released Nov, price drop May (7 months). All depends on how your selling compared to the competition, they've all done it when needed.
The console had already been out in other regions for five months as it launched on the 23rd of March in the UK, which means it took a year for a price cut on the dead 20gig model. A price cut for the X1 so soon is a sign of trouble.
Nice try, but the US PS3 saw a price drop after only 5 months. Released Nov, price drop April. Of course, any price drop is a sign of trouble, you don't drop the price if your hitting sales targets. Common sense. I'm simply trying to be objective.
PS3 was 600$ til October....they only changed HDD sizes and had a 500$ and 600$ sku from launch until Oct 2007 While that is still within its first year it damn sure wasn't April http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...
Ah I got the information from that very link. Clearly states April. Either way, are you suggesting they merely introduced a cheaper SKU? Exactly what this rumour suggests MS plan to do. So the scenario is the same. Frankly, this is getting far more in depth than needed. My point was it's not uncommon to see a price drop in the first year. You've shown that accurate.
If I'm not mistaken, the PS3 got a 200€ price drop in the first year or so. It's pretty normal if a console is not selling as well as the developer expects. As for the X1, I don't think it's selling that well outside the USA/UK markets. I expect a price drop on the X1 sooner or later (in the first year). Ideally for them would be a Kinectless X1 for 350€.
I'll have to get one with a dvd drive due to my shit net connection :( But not getting it till QB and SSOD anyway.
No disc drive. Only way. Wasn't this leaked already or was that deemed BS? Hard to see them drop Kinect, that's the future they have invested in, they want everyone to have it. Sure a Xbone can work without it, but it feels naked.
Kinect isn't going anywhere. The console was built around it. The system is selling at a higher rate then they anticipated prior to launch, so it's a big success for them. It will keep kinect for the long haul I suppose.