Late Wednesday, an anonymous NeoGAF user unloaded a trove of alleged Xbox One information, including unannounced games, new versions of the recently released console and more. It’s all extremely enticing information, but could it be accurate?
Dunno about a white Xbox One but a Blu-ray less one would be absolutely stoopid and would be repeating the same mistake as a HDD-less Xbox 360 arcade, why paint Devs into a corner again?
I don't believe it would paint devs into a corner. It would be digital-only, and the consumer would be purchasing from the Microsoft game store instead of retail. The only issue is sales that appear at retail outlets, but Major Nelson had recently mentioned that MS is looking for a way to match these sales digitally. It might be a good move on their behalf to have a cheaper version of the console.
All digital library would just stoke the DRM flames again. BluRay or GTFO.
All this Crap is set up by Microsoft.
Why would they do that? Not only would they piss off retailers immensely, what are the benefits? It seems like Microsoft's original vision just with slightly reduced DRM and none of the benefits, other than a one-time cheaper cost.
I guess it's get GTFO for me. I've been primarily gaming on Steam the last two years. If I could get a cheaper One less BR I am not going to complain.
Lol.. I know.. It must make them scratch their heads that once DRM was removed and your disks were free again! That many still choose to download their titles anyways.. Lol How could that be?! Unless..gasp.. People decide for themselves!! Lol
@AnthonyJrWTF I don't think a diskless xbox one would be a bad idea plus shops like game ect could still sell the game as a download card and also offer better prices as it media less but MS would gave to work with the shops in doing this. I don't see them doing it but you never know.
If this rumor ends up being true, unless they continue production of the current version along side of the disc-less i think this will be a really bad idea. I'm more than sure that there are potential customers that aren't against digital only, but have crappy internet or low data caps that this would alienate.
That they would 'fake' this whole leak thing would be exactly what I would expect from them....hello machinima?????? This would be right out of their playbook.
If the console already requires every game to be downloaded to the HD then is there really a difference. Besides the re-sale value. I don't sell my games so the Blu-ray drive doesn't matter. I plan to get an Xbox One before this happens but if it happens before it will mean I save $100. And since the digital sales have started to get decent it may be a better route for me anyway.
Stupid question here, if they drop the Bluray and consider to go full digital, are they going to increase the hardrive size to compensate? If they do so, how are they going to drop the price 100$? Mathematically, this means they would be loosing money on each console sold (when compared with the actual Xbone), would they? By common knowledge, when consoles loose money, constructors make for the money lost by selling software. Knowing MS as we all do, if they really do go full digital, does anyone really believe they are going to reduce prices?
What? A HDD-less Xbox One couldn't work since blu-rays HAVE to be installed. A Blu-ray driveless Xbox would work fine since all games are available through the digital store. The HDD-less Xbox 360 did work since the DVDs ran live, admittedly not towards the end of the gen with games like Halo 4 required extra content installed.
You do know you can download games... right?
Games are only getting bigger. Then you add patches and Dlc, even a tb will fill up quick. Plus the downloading time and caps might turn a lot of gamers off. Dropping the BluRay and adding memory seems like problem-switching to me.
Wikid did you even read what I said or did you not mean to reply to me? To quote myself "A Blu-ray driveless Xbox would work fine since all games are available through the digital store."
Eurgh double post...
How does it paint Devs into a corner? The internals are all the same, the only difference is that rather than purchasing your games from a shop, you simply purchase them via XBL.
Stop this DRM nonsense please. IF (a big one here!) this is accurate you would have the choice which Xbox One console you want. The regular one or the one without BluRay. So MS is not forcing anything here, instead they give you options.
Yes it would be... stoopid. *facepalm*
Digital only will be good if they implement something that will allow the user to re sell they license.
Would be nice but never gonna happen
Yeah.. DRM is already pissing me off with the X1. When I am logged into KI as first player I have all the content, but when my daughter is logged into player 1 the content becomes locked. She is listed as a family member, so shouldn't my gold membership and downloaded content extend to her? It really irritates me when this happens..
There is nothing wrong with a Xbox One with no disk drive. All games are available on demand on launch day, and it's more efficient to switch between games. No reason to call it "stoopid". Saves you money and time.
Damn MS if some these rumors are true Damn is going to bs exciting!
I love how saying something positive about the Xbox One automatically get's people to "Disagree" even though this is good news. Lot's on immaturity.
I noticed that too, it's rather expected now go be honest. I assume in this case people disagreed because Microsoft has been absolutely terrible at releasing any good news lately, ever since the E3 TV TV TV TV fiasco, they have been dogged to death by gamers. You gotta remember that the last couple of years of the 360 and the poor choices of the One hardware Dev team have upset some previous Xbox supporters. Couple that with Microsoft's attitude to PR and you have a recipe for hostility. Just remember, disagrees on N4G are as important in real life as cat pjs
Hard to tell, so much was announced, good and bad news. (Halo 5 delay)
The only rumour I want to see about the Xbox One it's self is "Microsoft will release a console WITHOUT Kinect late this year"
I think you're going to be left waiting forever on that one to be honest
For sure.. Just saying I dont think they'll do it myself
WTF. Microsoft go with the kinectless X1. Don't get rid on the blu-ray. For crying out loud, who the hell is steering this ship.
New CEO should be announced soon, some unexpected events may occur later this year.
At first I thought not having the blu ray player would be a bad idea but if you still have an option to buy Xbox One with the blu ray drive its cool. I'm pretty sure theres a market with gamers who want to go digital. But it would only make sense if they are selling digital for less!
There certainly is a market for them. I have read comments from some N4G members that have already said that all their purchases for this new gen have all been digital and they do not see themselves going back to physical in the future.
It definitely has it pros. For me its just I like having physical copy. And I feel as tho the digital era will restrict us of this at some point. So im gonna enjoy buying physical format til I can.
I'm one of those. If they had two models at launch I would have bought the one without a disc drive, no question.
I'm just worried about the games. If Halo 2 is released again, I will be satisfied.
I doubt it was a hoax, too much of what they were going do in 2014, 2015 was leaked. Microsoft needs surprises for E3 and other gaming conferences, and most of it has leaked now. Of course Microsoft is pissed.
Might be a cheaper version in collaboration with tv companies in order to compete with apple and google set up boxes. Or it might be another xb360 slim version.
They can shove their disc-less machine you know where. In crisp clear 720P at that!
That is how they may try to get those stupid DRM policies back - real sneaky MS - go ahead - cut your own throats - no one will care cuz we will ALL be playing PS4 by then.
Dude at a decent price point gamers will care even the most Sony fanboy might say you know what? Let me see what ms has to offer at a $350/399 price point. Dude as a gamer I would be all over that Sony has some amazing things going on and MS does as well. Its just the shitty approach they take to deliver the message and the way they always getting played by these "insider, leakers". Anyway im def interested in Xbox One
Well said, ps fan here and a diskless Xbone would be great, just for its exclusives
LOL DRM is everywhere. PS4, Xbox one, you name it. All your digital content is locked to your username, or controlled in some way. Everyone talks like MS is the only one doing this, but EVERYONE who deals with digital distribution (steam, xbox, ps, itunes, google play, etc) ALL USE different types DRM. You people just really don't understand how the world works apparently. Everyone talks like MS is bad for controlling digital content, when literally everyone does it.
Here is my take on the whole Disk-less XB1. NEGATIVES: 1)It needs to be cheaper than the PS4, like $350 max to really get going because if it's the same price as the PS4 then people would have little incentive to buy it over the PS4 because now price isn't a factor, but now I have no physical copies of my games. 2)No Physical copies of my games means; everything goes on the HDD, well how big will be enough? In the early stages we heard XB1's that filled up within a month and that was a 500 gig drive so double that to 1TB and now you will hear it getting filled up with say 5 months give or take. So now I have to download/re-download titles to make space. 3)Casual gamer friend comes over and sees this Disk-less drive XB1 and says where are all your games? Hardcore Gamer Friend: They are on the hard-drive cool huh? Casual Gamer Friend: Wait how can I borrow a game to try it for myself? Hardcore Gamer Friend: I can't let you borrow a game I don't have the physical copy! Casual Gamer Friend: Well that sucks guess I won't get that model! 4)No renting games from Game-fly or Redbox 5)Bandwidth caps from certain ISP's per month and slow internet affect this speeds. Games aren't the only thing people download and stream i.e. Netflix,Movies, shows songs, and just regualr internet browsing takes up bandwidth. Positives: 1)Hardcore Gamers that want all consoles will be able to get this is for nothing else but the exclusives. 2)You don't have to switch discs ever again and have access to all your games on a HDD 3)Those with really fast internet speeds and no data caps will get to play the game before most people and download as much as their HDD will let them 4)Price matched Sony PS4 or better pricing 5)Some of Microsoft's old policies and ideas can come to fruition. It's a good and bad scenario but I feel personally about owning a physical copy, this isn't a $10 music CD its a $65 game and I want the ability to re-sell. Thanks for listening guys!
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