XMNR: Nintendo held a financial meeting in Japan Thursday where president Saturo Iwata addressed the issues with the Wii U following the console's disastrous holiday performance.
Nintendo admits wii u problem is what normal gamers have been saying which is that the game pad is rubbish and unnecessary just like kinect. Unnecessary device that adds bigger price point and takes away from having better hardware. Nintendo needs to sell wii u with regular game pad without the silly touch screen for 120 quid. Nintendo also needs a lot more games and they all need to be quality titles
Kinect is an arm-flailing device. Game Pad is not. Comparison invalid, try again.
Learn to read. He never said the Game pad is a form of motion controls, he said it is inessential, like the Kinect. If people don't want a Kinect or Game pad they shouldn't be forced to buy one.
Learn to read yourself. Or, rather, learn public opinion. People have been saying for a while now that Motion Controls are inessential. Which the Game Pad is not based around motion controls, therefore the implied meaning of the statement that the Game Pad is not essential is an invalid one. Quite a few games benefit from it and even more are going to do so going forward, if Nintendo's revealed plans are to be believed. The game pad is not inessential. You'd have to be an idiot to think so; it's the biggest differentiation that the system has going for it, it's also the cheapest form of off-TV play amongst the three systems on the market and the ONLY one that doesn't sacrifice screen size or trade certain physical buttons on the controller itself, that core gamers expect all controllers to have by now, for ones on the touch screen. It just needs to be used better, to show its potential going forward.
I think people are wrong about the hardware and they don't need more 3rd party support. They need to age some of their beloved franchises. Zelda and Metroid need to be made for adults. They also need to be made to meet today's gaming standards. Both need to be super epic, mature, with massive world's and Metroid needs online co-op. They could beat every one if they would just listen to what gamers want from them. If they made that Future Zelda that was rumored a few years back gamers would flock.
Why would anyone really bother reading and trying to understand what Hatsune is saying? He's a hardcore troll trying to rile up people with every comment. Best thing is to mark him as trolling and not even read his garbage.
It's not rubbish, it's actually quite good.
I agree Even though I don't have a wii u the game pad looks awesome
The range is poor on the gamepad even in my next room, but all i had to do was plug in the system at the end of my bed and i could use the gamepad wirelessly fine in the same room as the system. So yes, it is pretty good.
i really enjoy the gamepad and it really made wind waker a better game. It's also stopped a lot of "who gets the tv" arguments.
Yes but when you have more than one kid playing you have the "who gets the gamepad" arguments.
I gotta agree with kneon on this one. When playing two player, the pad is useless. You have to use two Wii remotes/pro controllers or combination of either. Since that's what my son and I do most of the time, the pad goes unused.
In many multiplayer games, the gamepad is required. I've yet to see a game that doesn't use it in form or another. I would imagine you are playing Wii games on the WiiU if it isn't being used. If they release the gamepad as an accessory, that would be great. This way you can have two of them for multiplayer games.
^ More like, one person watches tv while the other plays the game on the gamepad screen. Also, sonic racing transformed, you can play multiplayer with both players having a full screen, one on TV, the other on gamepad. You can play 5 player splitscreen for that reason, 4 on tv, 1 on gamepad.
Oh,why you troll miku copy and past this same shit comment?
Who really thought Nintendo would drop the pad?that would be a waste of all their money spent building the damn thing.
Yep but it would be nice if they actually came up with games that actually supported it in a meaningful and entertaining way.
@NYC_Gamer They could sell it separate, and add in Wiimotes to cut to price down, or move the console back to a profit. IMO another price cut needs to happen holiday 2014, especially if sales don't pick up consistently after the release of Mario Kart this Spring.
Probably costs too much on it's own to sell separately. Would explain why they are not yet on shelves.
If you read the interview, they aren't saying the Gamepad is a problem. They are saying people are not aware of how it is used. They plan to raise peoples awareness of the gamepad and are focusing more on using it.
Love the gamepad
Same here. I love everything about it. And the pro controller also feels wonderful. I just wish more games used it.
Now they have a problem because if they drop selling the game pad with the hardware it would upset a lot of the customers who bought one and thought it would be supported by all games. Only way out is to release a brand new console within 1-2 years.
They won't do that. They'll release better games to make the system become lucrative during the ride through its full cycle.
Got that right Pillsbury, I think for a year, nintendo should give it all that it's got for the WiiU. Like a whole bunch of games that people really want, then the next 2-3 years move on with something else. Also adding WiiU integration with the new console so the people who bought a WiiU won't get ripped-off. And for the love of God, change the name to something that isn't similar to the previous console.
Read the article. They aren't dropping the gamepad. They are focusing on more ways to use it. The "problem" they are referring to is getting the information out on how it is used with the system. It's amazing how so many people think Vita/PS4 integration is so awesome and then rip on the WiiU gamepad. You can play your games right on the pad so others can use the TV or use the gamepad with the bigscreen experience much like Smartglass. The best part of the WiiU is the gamepad. If you remove it, you simply have a Wii with upgraded graphics.
I'm just glad someone here can read
"They are focusing on more ways to use it. The "problem" they are referring to is getting the information out on how it is used with the system." What information? What more ways to use it? On all the cool features and awesome things it can do? I don't know why they don't share a few ideas or a bit of this "information" to get the ball rolling. "It's amazing how so many people think Vita/PS4 integration is so awesome and then rip on the WiiU gamepad." And just like the WiiU, the PS4/Vita Intergration is not selling systems or the Vita would have a 1:1 ratio with the PS4. They both need to show why its so special and a must have feature and have failed to capture the masses Edit: miss quoted
No Nintendo the game pad is not the problem. The name and lack of games people want is.
Yes, WiiU offered what the 360 and PS3 did years before it was released. I think they were counting on the gimmick with the gamepad to change how that market viewed it. Also, it never hurts to have new IPs. I know mario's a little worn out being a plumber, racer, doctor etc. Link could use a breather. Now Samus is a different story.
Let this idiotic mantra die. The Wii U is stronger than the PS3/360 and offers far more pontentially than they could ever. The devs of Project C.A.R.S., Trine 2, and Nano Assault have all attested that the Wii U is all around stronger than the last gen console and that the PS3/360 can't run games to the same level as it. The Wii U is a next gen console with next gen features. The PS3/360 are not. Its going to remain stronger than them no matter how much you don't want it be true, and PS4/Xboxone being sronger don't matter as Nintendo made their console with a focus on price and functionality(the gamepad) not specs. Secondly. The Cell was gimmick, the Sixaxis was a gimmick, Kinect is a gimmick, Xboxlive is a gimmick, PSN Plus is a gimmick, bragging about the PS4's specs is a gimmick. A gimmick is anything used to sell something. Calling a something a gimmick doesn't really mean anything. All selling points are gimmicks. Somehow fanboys have managed to turn this into an insult when aimed at Nintendo. Third, Nintendo makes new I.P.s every year. Just last year they released the Wonderful 101, Dillon's Rolling Western and announced Monolith's Project X as well as Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. Not that this argument ever made any sense. Nintendo's old franchises are the most successful games franchises on Earth. How people continue to make issues out of their use of old I.P. "which every other console manufacture does as well" is beyond me.
@lilbroRX Why are you comparing the ps3/360 to the wii u? Those are last gen and the wii U is next gen, and compared to xbox one and ps4 it can't compare.
This article has a faux headline. He said lack of understanding about the Gamepad is the problem, not the gamepad itself.
They're saying the game pad is a problem because THEY HAVEN'T PUT ENOUGH FOCUS INTO GAMES THAT MAKE THE MOST OF IT. It states right there in the article that they'll be refocusing on making the most out of the game pad in the future, so haters can just stfu right now; they're not dropping the pad and if you don't like it, don't buy a Wii U. You won't be missed.
I think it has so much untapped potential that nintendo simply arent utilizing. Get rid of the static map on mario kart 8 and have a rear view mirror... it could add strategy to throwing items backwards. Have a survivor horror game where you have to draw your own map, manage your own inventory. No pause button, the fear is darting your eyes down to look at your map, not like in the old silent hill games where you could hide behind a pause screen to see the map. The fatal frame series was made for the gamepad. Running in foxed camera angles, hold the gamepad in front to enter the camera view, R to take the picture. Its really not that hard :l id argue 3rd/2nd parties made better use of the gamepad with TW101, Deus Ex HR:DC, and Zombi U.
Not every game needs to use the Gamepad in the involved and integral way that, say, ZombiU did, but if it doesn't, it should at least offer off-TV play for that game.
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" We are now sure that we can solve the technical problem of displaying Virtual Console software from Nintendo DS on the GamePad. The dual-screen Nintendo DS, one of which is a touch screen, has a very strong software lineup, and so we plan to add the Virtual Console titles from Nintendo DS software to the future Virtual Console lineup for Wii U." oh =o
Good to see the Gamepad is here to stay. ;) I personally love it.
The gamepad and kinnect are 2 different things but the gamepad isn't terrible by any stretch as always nintendo get the best out of their hardware just other developers that are lazy, as for games plenty of quality ones with more on the way. The gamepad is a bit like having a home version of a nintendo ds and what options that gives you with the touch screen and the off screen gameplay is essentially what the vita is offering (I have both set up's) but £120 not exactly cheap but it's about the same price as the ds and as there is no need for multiple gamepads you can get them with the console when you buy one normally with a game of quality just shop around for barely £200-250 depending what games bargain in my eyes. Specially with mario kart and smash bros on the horizon, i bought I wii u on launch but won't lie did some swapping around after buying the zelda bundle and am well happy with my zelda styled gamepad, love it!
Why all the hate on wii u its a great system for those with young ones and or young at heart . Mario is just as great now as he was in the 80s. As usual with Nintendo a great console for the family as a whole. I do agree it can use more games but my younger children love it and we as a family will play together on that more than any other console we have in the house. FYI that includes ps4 ps3 Xbox 360 and wii. This past gen it was split between Wii, Xbox 360, and ps3 . Since Xmas 2012 when we all play a game together it is almost always on Wii U.
I already gave my opinion of this. http://n4g.com/user/blogpos... Nintendo, you don't even have to change anything. Just stick another, REGULAR controller in the box along with the gamepad. Give devs that choice.
If a dev doesn't want to program for the gamepad they can just make the gamepad screen blank or add a static map. Reports were that's it's essentially just four lines of code. The gamepad is not the problem, just an excuse. Sales are the problem. If the console was selling well then 3rd parties would have no difficulties coming up with how to use the gamepad. Now whether or not the wiiu isn't selling is because of the gamepad is a different question. I do agree though, nintendo should provide a classic controller in more bundles. (I bought the Zombiu bundle which had a classic controller in it)
Here's the thing... I bet you're right.
They specifically stated that gamepad was their highest priority and the problem was a lack of focus on it.
Exactly!From what i have gather from the conference Iwata dont say the gamepad is the WII U problem in the sense some people are thinking,that Nintendo should get rid of it or that the Wii U should not have been build with the Gamepad!What Iwata means saying that the gamepad is the problem,its just because there should be more games making use of it!Some people are making the gamepad a problem out of the context of what Iwata says.The gamepad is were to stay and they want to improve the need for it having more games making use of it!The title of this thread is misleading.Again some trolls dont even know how to read and get everything Nintendo to the wrong way!Nintendo is even going to release a new patch for getting quick boot menu on the gamepad! http://nintendoeverything.c...
Wii U gane pad is the problem because they (nintendo) did not marketed it correctly nor did they have a killer app YET.. In fact I believe batman AC a launch game has used it the best so far. I love it! Its only going to get better from here. Nintendo knows this and they are up for the challenge!! I say bring it on!!!
Wii U gamepad isn't even the problem. It's actually pretty good. The problem is the lack of games that they have, lack of 3rd party support, failed marketing on the Wii U. Hardware etc..
So on the same day Nintendo announces Donkey Kong wont use the game pad they announce the WiiU's biggest problem is lack of games that use the game pad. They also said that Nintendo hasn't focuses on children enough. Nintendo is a funny company. They are kind of adorable.
That's it Nintendo behave like a crazy person. Identify the problem, ignore said problem and repeat mistake.
So Nintendo finally admits the gimmick of the GamePad is the reason WiiU stinks! Casuals don't give a rats arse and core gamers would rather have a Pro Controller in the package! Being on par with Xbone at least would have been nice too but... Too little, too late! :/
Not what he said. Read the article.
as much as i love my WiiU game pad i have to admit this is the thing that cause a lot of confusion to all.. 1. developers dont know what they will do with the gamepad 2. additional cost to the unit price 3. consumers are thinking it is just an accessory for the wii i say Nintendo keep this gamepad as an option for some but do sell it seperate and dont bundle it anymore with the console itself..its like Kinect (sorry for the comparison) but forcing this to consumers throat is not a solution to make it for developers to use in the future, if you yourself cant support it for the long run and release games to utilize it..
A week after my nephews played my Wii U, they started complaining about the game pad and wanted to know if they can play a game with another controller so they stopped playing it. I wasn't keen on the game pad myself and stopped playing it all together.
Nintendo please just shut up, because these trolls are hell bent on twisting anything you say to try to damage your image amongst newcomers and casuals.
I have never been more disappointed in my life in a game system than the WiiU. I bought my day one and have regretted it ever since. Take the game-pad out, include a Pro Controller and a Nun-Chuck/Wand combo and rename it Wii2 and sell the thing for $229.00. Offer owners of the system like me a choice of a free Pro-Controller or Wand/Nunchuck combo or both. Then go back and beg the 3rd parties to make games for it.
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