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Submitted by smiller1 183d ago | opinion piece

Gears Of War: Has Microsoft Committed An Epic Fail?

VideoGamer: "Gears of War is now the sole property of Microsoft with developer Black Tusk taking up development. But can it survive without the touch of Epic Games?" (Gears of War, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

blue_flowers  +   183d ago
yes. why is this series even relevant in 2014 and beyond? its been a trilogy and a prequel, what more is there to this series that couldnt be achieved by creating an original ip. seems like Microsoft is really phoning the exclusives in at the moment.
NYC_Gamer  +   183d ago
The same reason why Call of Duty/Assassins Creed and many others are relevant...Its because of the huge amount of fans that run out and support sequel/prequels of franchises.
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truefan1  +   183d ago
The is an xbox staple, it must continue to XB1. Also his article is an epic contradiction. He says can it survive without the touch of epic, then later says Rod Ferguson is on board, well isn't that a touch of epic. My goodness, they must let anyone write for this site. GOW will be epic and I'm sure they can find a new fresh idea to keep the series going. Unless the games are absolute garbage, I will always buy a GOW game, same with Halo.
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Ashlen  +   183d ago
This is one trend I can't understand. (buying the same game over and over)

I don't own any CoD, I was bored of Assassins Creed by Brotherhood which I never even finished.

I bought Assassins Creed 4 only because Watch Dogs was delayed and it was the third game on Amazons buy 3 games deal, I haven't finished it either. Pretty much started it and said to myself "welp, this is Assassins Creed with boats" and got bored.
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OllieBoy  +   183d ago
Agreed. I'm pretty mad at MS for this. Sounds like they killed a new IP with a lot of potential for more games in this tired series. And they're going to be non-Epic/Cliffy Gears...look at what happened to Judgement.
Naga  +   183d ago
I'm going to make a crazy suggestion:

How about we wait until more than a week after the purchase of the IP has been announced before we write off all future iterations of the series?

I know, I'm such a doofus for suggesting that. After all, we have SO MUCH INFORMATION at this point to justify such bold predictions.
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jgrigs09  +   183d ago
Well we don't know what IP they had. The video that was shown at e3 was not a game. Black Tusk and Phil Spencer said they are working on new IP's but right now they are focused on Gears Of War. So who knows Black Tusk can expand and can hire new people to focus on another IP. I liked the first two Gears of war but after that it went to garbage. Not that I care to much about the game, I'm interested to see if Black Tusk can revive that game.
xDHAV0K24x  +   183d ago
where is ur proof that they killed off the black tusk project in favor of the next GOW?
malokevi  +   183d ago
Yeah, continuing to develop one of their staple franchises that people love and keeps cash coming in hand over fist is stupid. There is absolutely no conceivable way that a new gears, under a new studio, on a new engine, with new hardware, could ever possibly be good.

On top of the above statements, which are entirely devoid of sarcasm and ridicule, I simply hate videogames.
DoctorXpro  +   183d ago
new engine? I bet will be the latest Unreal engine
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Septic  +   183d ago
@Doctorxpro

The latest engine is a new engine....
DoctorXpro  +   183d ago
@Septic not completely new, and Rod Ferguson knows how that works. just like frostbite engine they say its new but theres mistakes on bf4 that was on bad company.... so is not that new
malokevi  +   183d ago
Grears 4 => Gears 5 ... new game

Unreal Engine 3 => Unreal Engine 4 ... new engine

It's really that simple. Why split hairs?
jdaboss  +   183d ago
yes. why is this series even relevant in 2014 and beyond? its been a trilogy and a prequel, what more is there to this series that couldnt be achieved by creating an original ip. seems like Sony is really phoning the exclusives in at the moment.. <-- the same could be said about God of War, Killzone etc.. But you wont say that will you.. shove your blatent bias up your a$$
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Farsendor1  +   183d ago
Killzone story has yet to be finished. I agree with God of War they need to end that.
thrust  +   183d ago
You beat me to it, well said!

Gears online rocks! Please never end it!
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tuglu_pati  +   183d ago
@Farsendor1

so as long as they don't end the story the can make hundred of them. Well that makes sense...

Sometimes I don't understand the reasoning behind some of the comments here.
xDHAV0K24x  +   183d ago
amen
thrust  +   183d ago
The same reason SS or uncharted will be.

I can not wait Xbox for me is about online gaming and gears was great for MP
Darrius Cole  +   183d ago
Microsoft buying Gears of War wasn't about making good games. It was about keeping Gears of War off of the PS4, which is exactly where it was going; it was going to be multiplat.

Microsoft was afraid that with all the bad press they were having and the extra $100 on their price tag, they could not afford to have people start saying that the Xbox was now losing exclusives.

I think Microsoft made the right decision. Perhaps they are slowly learning what Sony appears to already know, IN THE LONG RUN, YOU CAN'T RELY ON IP THAT YOU DO NOT OWN.
Ashby_JC  +   183d ago
You have hit on what not to many are discussing. The purchase was about getting the IP but like you said keeping it OFF any other non xbox platform.

Which IMO is money that had to be spent.

Imagine the press if Gears got on a sony console. Like a next gen remake of Gears 1. Or the next gears game exclusive to the PS4!!

That would have been a disaster!!!!!!
Darrius Cole  +   183d ago
Yep, that press would have been an unmitigated disaster.

"Why buy and Xbox One when you can play Gears of War for $100 less on a PS4."

MS had to do it, they didn't really have a choice. They knew it, Epic knew it, Sony knew it, we knew it,....everybody knew it. And Epic busted Microsoft head good, a $100,000,000 for one IP.
Aces17  +   183d ago
Bet this won't be said when Sony comes out with God Of War 4. Both are successful and I'd love to see sequel to both.
combatcash  +   183d ago
Because it's a great series that people love. I'm sure there will be another God Of War, Uncharted, Last of us, Halo, Fable and so on as long as they produce quality games then they can keep them alive.
Shadonic  +   183d ago
Why is COD ?
AngelicIceDiamond  +   183d ago
@Flowers That's great logic.

Why is Gears and God Of War still relevant? Both have been a trilogy and prequel?

But seriously you act like the games getting released tomorrow. Its gonna be a while until we hear an officially announcement title.
blue_flowers  +   183d ago
well that logic is only used by you. i wasnt bringing up Sony 1st party games because the article was about gears of war. but sure, obviously games like god of war need to be retired as well. i think your trying to find a fanboy argument where there isnt one. i think sony and ms both need to stop pumping more money in games that have already been played out.
DevilishSix  +   182d ago
There was a nice discussion about the Gears franchise on the latest Giant Bomb weekly podcast. I agreed with alot of what they said. The trilogy wrapped up everything nice and tight so where would they take the series and what could they do where we fans would actually care? What could they change about the gameplay, as it seems all third person games have ripped off the cover system. Really what is there left to do then to artifically extend out franchise to sell more copies.
ShugaCane  +   183d ago
No I don't think so. Gears is a great series, but every episode is just more of the same in my opinion. Especially the very last one, which was, to me, a really useless prequel. So I think that a new developper, new team, new people will bring the breath of fresh air that the franchise needed.
Mikelarry  +   183d ago
personally the gears series ended with 3, i didn't even bat an eye lid for judgement. i cant think of what story is left to tell in this world " Marcus mum was really the locust queen and she is the one pulling the strings all along" but it will be interesting to see what black tusk brings to this franchise and although i will not buy it i wish them good luck
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KillrateOmega  +   183d ago
I feel the same. I'm not really sure where they can take it from here.
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ceedubya9  +   183d ago
I think that is the exciting part about this. We don't know where they will take it. That opens up plenty of possibilities for storylines within the current universe or even something all new that isn't related to the status quo.
KillrateOmega  +   183d ago
@ceedubya9

True. True.
rela82me  +   183d ago
I believe I read another article the other day mentioning the possibility of a different genre of Gears. I hope that they actually keep it set in the same universe, just get a NEW set of characters, perhaps even introduce a new race of people and issues.

Hell make it a completely different game... We have a long time until any of this gets sorted out, so I think it would be best to forget about it for a few years.
DanielGearSolid  +   183d ago
Epic makes generic games...

It's not gonna be hard to replicate
strigoi814  +   183d ago
fatigue will be a factor for this game, the story ended right on the third installment..anyway wish them luck
DoctorXpro  +   183d ago
they can come with these crappy titles and sh1tty news. next gears is day one on my list. whatever others think....no shit given
maniacmayhem  +   183d ago
Pretty hilarious some of the negativity I am reading from posters about MS securing a proven and popular franchise for themselves.

I am very curious and excited to see what they will do with Gears on the X1. I am hoping for a whole new cast, set maybe 20 or 30 years after, some game features from Judgment mixed with the superior part 3 with added new elements that make sense.
Death  +   183d ago
Just pissed off people that wanted Gears to become multiplatform. The sad part is more people probably wanted the game to go multiplat for the flamebait. Now they have to resort to complaining that the series is tired and Microsoft wasted the money. It was a lose-lose thing since people always find a reason to bitch.
nifonge  +   183d ago
It's actually pretty typical, it's just the argument that's flawed... "fatigue with the franchise"... really... after 3 games there's fatigue?
What about:
Call of Duty
Mario
Uncharted
Killzone
GTA
Assassin's Creed
Battlefield
Metal Gear
I mean all these games are getting sequels/prequels (on their 4th or higher game), and are based mostly on the same story lines (universe.) I don't see too much complaining about these games having fatigue. But then again it's Gears and it's a Microsoft exclusive and I realize what site I'm on...
Thepharaoh  +   183d ago
It's in the hands of a new developer so i will keep an open mind for mow however if they fail i will bail
dillhole  +   183d ago
Just look at COD - with each release, less of the original team are involved and the worse it gets. But it still sells and so will Gears and that's all Microsoft will care about.
izumo_lee  +   183d ago
The only issue that Xbox gamers need to worry about is that Microsoft's decision to give such an iconic franchise to such a brand new studio with absolutely no AAA experience is a risky one.

The game may well turn out to be a fantastic game worthy of the series name or it can become a complete train wreck due to such inexperience.

It's a major gamble by Microsoft, & a big opportunity for Black Tusk (which is from my hometown of Vancouver Canada!) so i wish them all the best in their major first game.
m0lt0n  +   183d ago
the people at Black Tusk have tons of experience. The studio as a whole is new, but the people have experience. Time will tell though if the sum is equal to greater than its parts.
izumo_lee  +   183d ago
True they have experience i am not arguing about that. The thing is there is a lot of pressure to put on a new studio with a huge franchise like Gears of War.

Like i said i want all the best for the studio cause it is such a big honor for them. They are from my hometown as well & i know some people from other studios from Vancouver, they are talented people.

I just hope that IF things are too big for them to handle that it doesn't deter them. Microsoft has a good thing with Black Tusk, i wanna see them grow.

Microsoft doesn't really have a good record in growing their 1st party studio's. It is nice to see this gen they are trying to do so, we'll see.
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SonyStyled  +   183d ago
what studios are some of black tusk staff from? you say they have experience, well what is it? id love to see what they can do with GeoW. i love it when people are given a time to shine oppertunity
Death  +   183d ago
Blacktusk is one of Microsofts studios. Microsoft has been rebuilding it's first party studios over the last few years. The focus in these new studios has been content on the Xbox One since it takes time to develop games. Had they focused on the Xbox 360, the new console would suffer. It's a tough call to make as a console manufacturer. I believe Sony already said all 17 studios were focused on PS4 development, so it's not terribly uncommon. At this point in both the PS3 and Xbox 360's lifecycle it is up to third parties to keep the platforms moving. Most of the games we will see in the next year or two are already in development or using older game engines. It's an easy way to make a buck with very little investment.
dalehitchy  +   183d ago
It is amazing how much I feel at the end of last gen and at the start of this gen.

Whilst I did like my fair share of Microsoft exclusives when I had my xbox, it seems like they are stuck on halo, gears, fable, forza cycle - rinse and repeat.

they would be much better off getting a new ip. There is something about sony exlusives that have charms that you dont get on xbox either. im glad ive switched.
tuglu_pati  +   183d ago
Yes rinse and repeat. that is why they are releasing Quanum Break, . Project Spark,
Sunset Overdrive... because all they do is rinse and repeat.
Death  +   183d ago
In 2008 Microsoft shed quite a bit of their first party studios to streamline operating expenses. They lost a fair share of their marketing people too. As they started to recover from the recession they started to build up their first party studios. Most have been quiet to the public since they were working on next gen IP's and the consoles weren't released yet. Just before the Xbox One launch Microsoft announced they were commiting over a billion dollars towards exclusive content. The aquistition of the Gears IP is a very small part of that, but shows their commitment. There is a lot we haven't seen that they are working on. I would imagine e3 will be the next time we get a peek at what both Microsoft and Sony are up to with their first parties.

From what I have seen, Microsoft is looking to support the Xbox One more like they did the original Xbox with more exclusive content and first party support. The recession in 08 really did screw up both companies plans. Sony shed quite a few studios too and needs to rebuild. They aren't as far along due to their lack of profitability the last 4 years. Hopefully the PS4 brings them the revenue needed to move forward.
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Ashby_JC  +   183d ago
Based on how much it cost to make games you HAVE to have KNOWN titles.

Both systems are going to have there share of known games from last gen.

If games like Titanfall, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive didnt exist then I would agree 100%.

Even on Sonys side they are releasing new IPS such as The order and Drive Club.

Then we have 3rd party like Watch DOgs and The Division.

But there are always going to be IPs that we know and love that will get sequels. Second Son is highly anticipated and that is like what the 3rd or 4th iteration.

Games are like movies VERY expensive. You and I will always see old franchises getting sequels...its the nature of the beast.

Lets be happy that there is a nice mix of NEW mixed with the old.

I look forward to ALL of the new next gen games...including the next GEARS.
2pacalypsenow  +   183d ago
I think Gears of war ran its course
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Skankinruby  +   183d ago
@dillhole
exactly, the game could be about Marcus Phoenix cousin finding his lost puppy and it wouldn't matter as long as you call it gears of war it will sell like hotcakes. Microsoft has proven substance isn't needed for success
4logpc  +   183d ago
Not trying to be rude, but that's a really stupid comment.
GusBricker  +   183d ago
Just give me more co-op campaign and I'm there day one, baby!
Dlacy13g  +   183d ago
Epic Fail? There is absolutely NO WAY you can know at this point if this move is good or bad for MS. In fact, I would say on the surface it clearly seems like a solid move for MS. Securing a loved IP for the Xbox and ensuring it doesn't get released to the competition. I am sure they wish they could have done this in retrospect for Mass Effect.

Now if the first release is a huge flop and costs tons to make that they never re-coup, then we can revisit this topic. Until then, I think the answer is no its not a fail.
feraldrgn  +   183d ago
No, not really.

It's not my cup of tea & it leads the Xbox more into the "shooterbox" catagory again, but people will buy it, people will enjoy it.

Personally, I would get genre fatigue with Titanfall, Halo & Gears.

Especially after last gen being dominated by shooters & so many hoping the genre would take a back seat for the next consoles.
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DiRtY  +   183d ago
Gears of War franchise sold 22 million games on the Xbox 360 and is a true system seller.

2013: Forza 5, Ryse, Dead Rising, Killer Instinct
2014: Quantum Break, Titanfall, Halo 5, Project Spark, Kinect Sports Rivals, Sunset Overdrive
2015: Fable Legends
2016: Gears of War 4

And all of these games are confirmed. You just can't complain about such a confirmed lineup of games this early into a new gen.

*edit* of course release dates are not confirmed, but you get the idea.
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ceedubya9  +   183d ago
They just need to give me another Lost Odyssey (I'll even take another Blue Dragon). Better yet, in the meantime, give me an LO port for the XBO while I wait.
D-riders  +   183d ago
yeah not a smart purchase should have let the game go multiplat that way it would have a chance. that game series ended with 3
testerg35  +   183d ago
How's the game going multiplat give the game a chance?
BIGBOSS08  +   183d ago
its microsoft at their best. they'll continue halo/gears/forza tradition.
GraveLord  +   183d ago
You forgot Titanfall/Ryse/Dead Rising....oh wait none of those are 1st party and they're all moneyhatted titles from 3rd party developers. Whoops.
from the beach  +   183d ago
Buying the rights was an excellent move, no question. Giving it to an untested new studio, well, the jury is still out on that one.
Farmassy  +   183d ago
This just makes sense. I can't believe people are ragging on microsoft for buying this franchise. They know their fan base wants these games and they are trying to deliver. Also, I think it is important that this game is made without epic. There have already been numerous games in the franchise and putting it in someone else's hands will bring it some new life.

I want something that is definitely gears but with some fresh ideas
Ashby_JC  +   183d ago
It has my interest.

Also its not my money or my risk. So I welcome them securing the rights to one of there biggest franchises.

Also keep in mind that most dont even pay attention to who the devs are for games. So say in 2-3 years another gears hits and is marketed AND is a good to great game. Many will buy it...myself included.

I feel another reason this IP was purchased was to keep it off any other console forever. Losing it would have been a blow. Cheaper to keep it IMO.

I hope they come with something interesting in the gears universe and basically set it up so that it is a story that can span a few games.
xDHAV0K24x  +   182d ago
1) Eliminated the threat of a big time franchise going to other consoles

2) Giving the fans what they want

...yeah they failed BIG TIME smh. Morons.

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