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Submitted by Eonjay 164d ago | rumor

USA Weekly Chart Week Ending 1/18/2014

Gen 8 Lifetime Hardware Sales (US):
PS4 54,284 (-20%) 2,194,794
XOne 52,836 (-23%) 2,064,549
WiiU 19,231 (-21%) 2,212,492

Gen 8 Lifetime Software Sales (US):
XOne 135,288 (-23%) 5,134,862
PS4 111,088 (-21%) 4,466,528
WiiU 93,622 (-27%) 9,095,561

Top 5 Games
Call of Duty: Ghosts (X360) 48,430
Minecraft (X360) 34,429
Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS3) 29,231
Grand Theft Auto V (X360) 27,903
Grand Theft Auto V (PS3) 23,300 (Call of Duty: Ghosts, Grand Theft Auto V, Minecraft, PS3, PS4, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Hard to tell
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Axios2  +   164d ago
So much for the PS2 era coming back

For the record

http://www.digital-digest.c...

X1 outsold PS4 by 48,000 last month in US
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Nitrowolf2  +   164d ago
"So much for the PS2 era coming back"

What do you even mean by that? Sales wise (well duh this is a sales article), I mean it was already confirmed as the best selling console thus far for a launch. And in comparison to the PS2, which did 10 Million it's first whole year on the market globally, the PS4 is already at the half way point with 10 months to go and no Japan release yet either.

If you mean in terms of dominance, well does lead 1.5 Million globally to, with MS dominant markets no longer being their dominant in terms of competition.

Not trying to say X console is better than X, just looking at the sales given, but yea I do have to say that the PS4 does indeed have a "PS2" feel in terms of whats coming out in the coming months and the momentum it has.
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aceitman  +   164d ago
and it looks like ps4 has beaten x1 on american soil , with sony starting to meet demand and income tax returns i see the gap get wider on american turf.like it is globally
PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   164d ago
andddd PS4 is still not in stock I'm starting to see it in stock as of this week so FEB will be interesting
badboy776  +   164d ago
Why no one never mentions marketing?
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mcstorm  +   163d ago
What is interesting is the difference in total sales numbers of games on the PS4. Most 3rd party games on the xbox one have sold better than the PS4 and the exclusives are selling better on the xbox one too.

Still rather than say one is better than the other we need to say well done Sony and Microsoft as both are selling well and come on Nintendo start showing off the WiiU and lets see good sales on all 3.
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mkis007  +   163d ago
mcstorm

Actually took me a second to notice that it was listed by week sales not by lifetime... So the second number is what you want to look at. Only BF4 and COD have sold more on xbox 1 than ps4 of the third party releases. BF4 is the one that surprises me. The exclusives obviously will only sell on their respective consoles. It looks like Killzone is only listed for paying members.
truefan1  +   163d ago
All I'm going to say is ps4 had a week head start over the XB1 and the gap is now less than 130k with Titanfall releasing in March. Add in refunds and this gap might be closed by May. Worldwide, ps4 will own, but in the USA, where I game, XB1 will reign supreme. Especially holiday season 2014, no ps4 game will be able to match up with Halo. PS4 is definitely selling the best, no denial there, but I think it has more to do with anti MSFT. People bought the console, but didn't buy games, look at those software sales. I also predict scalpers make up a ton of ps4 sales.
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combatcash  +   163d ago
@truefan1

The ps3 outsold the 360 in the U.S and the 360 had a year start. I'm sure the x1 will do well but with a lower price point and the brand I firmly believe the ps4 will outsell the x1 by a large margin.
Fez  +   163d ago
@combatcash
PS3 was no where near to 360 sales in the US. It was the rest of the world that made up the most of the ps3 sales.
mediate-this  +   163d ago
People need to stop touting japan as the one to skyrocket the ps4 sales, people japan is f'n dead in terms of what they use to be. The buy handhelds and iphones, every generation less consoles get sold there. If im wrong im wrong, but i dont japan will be critical in sales this gen.
Fez  +   163d ago
Anyone want to link to me sales numbers that show ps3 outselling 360 in the US?

I know this is a small point but you can't agree with @combatcash because his first statement is false. And that statement is a precursor to his argument.

"The ps3 outsold the 360 in the U.S and the 360 had a year start" is a lie or display of ignorance. Either way it's false.

Even comparing selling rates the 360 sold faster than the ps3 in the US.

X360 ~ 40m
PS3 ~ 25m

People need to start reading comments and thinking about them rather than agreeing or disagreeing based on whether they think the person supports the same console as them or not.
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DanielGearSolid  +   164d ago
Sooooo how about them worldwide numbers?
Hicken  +   164d ago
For the record, PS4 was sold out most of last month.

What about November, though? And what about now?

What about December in the rest of the world?

It's amazing that you cut your argument down to one tiny section of a debate and claim victory, as if everything else out there doesn't make your little moral triumph pointless.
georgeenoob  +   164d ago
It was out a week earlier than X1 in November. Nice try though.
GribbleGrunger  +   164d ago
Have you ever caught yourself when you post something like that and thought better of it. How can you have the gall to use a weeks earlier launch as the reason the PS4 is sitting 1.5 million in front? The PS3 launched a full year later in America and 16 months later in Europe but that didn't compute with people like you for some reason. Next weeks numbers will be higher too because recently we got a big shipment of PS4s to bother America and Europe.
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Kayant  +   164d ago
@georgeenoob

"It was out a week earlier than X1 in November. Nice try though." - Just like how PS4 launched a wk later in the UK and EU and was/still is ahead?( In most of the countries XB1 launched as well).....

What's your point?
ovnipc  +   163d ago
No it was not. Even on evay ps4 are going for 400 even. Most game stops and best buys have lots of ps4. Like this guy said nice try. The fact is that xone its producing more money than ps4. And xone will pass ps4 in the usa eventually. Xone sells more software than ps4 and thats were the money is like x360 sells double what ps3 sales, sorry but sony still under.
CernaML  +   163d ago
^Its time to wake up now.
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Gamer1982  +   164d ago
XB1 sales have been dropping off now PS4 has been more readily available.. Look at the change amounts. It was the same last month too. PS4 seems to be picking up traction and Xbox One losing it.
ShinMaster  +   163d ago
48k wow /s

PS4 is outselling the Xbox One in American territory. Period.

"So much for the PS2 era coming back"
3 months in? Really? Talk about fanboy desperation.
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DJMarty  +   163d ago
Axios2 - PS4 is outselling X1 by over 100K worldwide on a weekly basis. Your point is?
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Madock  +   163d ago
It's funny how everyone is saying Wii u is dead & a flop while xbone (with these sales) will need several years to catch up with it
Lets remember no one gona buy it in Japan & here in Europe nobody seem that interested in it at all despite a furious marketing campaign & massive 'nxt gen' hype
It's getting 1 ?good game this year while competition getting plenty of releases
If i need to bet on a flopped console it wld b xbox
HaveAsandwich  +   163d ago
it's not coming back. it's going to get topped by the ps4.
AnthonyF123  +   163d ago
Only Because Sony wasn't supplying enough PS4's, so obviously it wasn't gonna beat the xbox one in that month. sony was releasing in a ton of places so that took a lot of sonys stock.
NeloAnjelo  +   163d ago
So? No where else in the world though.

Pple are buying inferior hardware. What's the cost of 720p and 30fps? 100 bucks more. Soon more will realise this.

Pple are still queuing up for PS4s, with all selling out when stocked. Can't say the same for the BONE.
Joey_Leone  +   163d ago
Every store i went too, Best buy,Gamestop,Radioshack,Wal-Ma rt,Target, There's XboxOne's EVERYWHERE, Even the day one edition. These XboxOne systems aren't selling for S%#*. It's so bad even local SWAP-MEETS are trying to get rid of them. PS4 systems on the other hand are nowhere to be found, and if there are some ps4's available, it's selling for more than $450. These Xbox consumers are really delusional and never think before they speak. Just wait for Sony to restock American store shelves.
dale_denton  +   163d ago
it hurts doesn't it? there there.. it will be okay. just go back to playing your 720p 30fps games.
lifeisgamesok  +   164d ago
Keep going next gen sells (as I'm paused playing Xbox One) :)
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torchic  +   164d ago
why do people on this site use "sells" instead of "sales"? is it some American spelling or something?

it's horrible spelling, that.
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HighResHero  +   164d ago
It's so common that I wonder if it's a translation glitch. No it's not a conventional or even popular unconventional American way of misspelling that word.
Spenok  +   163d ago
It has nothing to do with some american way of spelling it. It is literally just people who have no concept of how to spell correctly. ESPECIALLY when it comes to spelling online.

Far too many people don't know the difference between then and than, to and too, there and their, or even your and you're.

It's frustrating to see. Especially on social media sites. Gets on my nerves lol.
MRMagoo123  +   163d ago
LMFAO i have seen people use sells incorrectly so many times , they seem to use sells where sales should be and sales where sells should be. It seems to be as prevalent as the people that use aks instead of ask in America.

Sells is used as such lifeisgamesok "bob sells cakes" "john often sells his drugs to hookers"

Sales is used as such "How many million more sales will PS4 get compared to the Xbone" "I hear Sony has sales often on PSN plus" hope that clears it up.

I wish ppl could bubble me up for "educational" lol
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SITH  +   163d ago
Yet your entire reply is riddled with grammatical errors. I guess capitalization of the first word at the beginning of a sentence is an American only thing? Or how about that question mark going inside the quotation marks? Is that unique to us also?

Horrible indeed.
Fez  +   163d ago
You're right, I've only ever seen "sells" instead of "sales" on n4g! And it's a lot of people on here too.

Almost as annoying as "worse" instead of "worst".

How hard is it to get these things correct?

Edit: Geezo, comment right below (Jay70sgamer) starts off with the exact same issue. Clearly an English speaker and possibly in his 40s judging by his name...

This has to stop!
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Jay70sgamer  +   164d ago
Sells on all systems was not good ....this week........everybody was saying the new systems are gonna blow away wii u ..it doesn't seem that way ...world wide Xbox one sales was only 35,000 more than the wii u and playstaion 4 about 100,000 with them numbers its gonna be awhile before anyone outsells the wii u worldwide sales especially with no killer games for atleast two months (drought)just saying and for those that say well Ps4 it's not in japan yet ...just remember they may move 400,000 copies but you also must remember donkey kong tropical freeze is released the day before playstation 4 arrives in japan so wii u will move quite a few consoles world wide ...just saying .....the launch craze is definitely over or almost over ....
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Nitrowolf2  +   164d ago
"everybody was saying the new systems are gonna blow away wii u ."

what took the Wii U a year and a half to achieve is almost achieved by both the X1 and PS4. PS4 is just a shy 1 Million of the world wide sales for Wii U. And Basically next week we are looking at the PS4 outselling the Wii U in the states.

If you remove Japan from the Wii U Equation, we are looking at roughly 4 Million (sold 1.5 in Japan). So in a sense, yes, the PS4 and almost X1 have sold mroe than the Wii U in nearly every place but Japan (since neither PS4 or X1 are out in Japan)
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Jay70sgamer  +   164d ago
But look at the scenario right now it's only outselling the wii u by a hundred thousand .......it is 900,000 units behind and all systems aren't going to move that many units ....it will move 300,00o ,400,000 the most when it comes out in japan .....also at the pace it's at now moving only 100,000 units more than wii u it will take almost two months to catch the wii u if that happens and by that time most likely mario kart will be out and yes infamous son is coming out but based on infamous it only sold only 1,800,000 copies ...donkey kong 6 million ...infamous second son looks like a great game but it's not a sales monster just saying ...like I said the launch hype is over or just about ....numbers don't lie ...also can't that same therory be used with xbox not launching in the same amount of countries as playstation ..if xbox was launched in the Asia and European countries wouldn't their sales be closer or similar to ps4 numbers ....yes it will outsell it in the usa but worldwide sales is the number that matters most ....
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GribbleGrunger  +   163d ago
@Jay70sgamer:

These numbers are more than a week old and fresh shipments of the PS4 went out last week. The gap will already have been reduced to 700,000 (prior to the shipments) and the new shipments will boost the PS4s sales beyond what we see today. I'd say around another 150,000 caught up which puts it at 500,500 behind.

By the time the PS4 launches in Feb 22nd, it will be very close in sales to the Wiiu, or even ahead, depending on whether Driveclub releases and how many PS4 shipements Sony allotted to Japan. Thief and Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn also release this month along with new Indie titles.

We also had a games drought recently and I'm sure Tombraider will help give both the X1 and the PS4 a slight boost. By March 1st the PS4 will have outsold the Wiiu easily. My the end of March it will have a million+ lead over the Wiiu and around a 3 million lead over the X1.
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johndoe11211  +   163d ago
@Jay70sgamer

Do you even believe the utter senseless nonsense you are writing??? The wiiu had a year head start and these systems are close to passing it after only 3 months. Nintendo cut their sales forecast from 9 mil to 2 mil. what are you talking about????
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DanielGearSolid  +   164d ago
I don't think Donkey Kong is gonna do much more than Mario did for the WiiU

Especially with bo holiday rush
Jay70sgamer  +   164d ago
Donkey kong games always sell look at wii and 3ds and mario is at 1,600,000 not bad for a game with a small base the attach rate is crazy one third of all wii u owners have mario world just saying
DanielGearSolid  +   164d ago
I'm not saying Donkey Kong won't sell... But more than Mario? I just don't see it

The attach rate is cool and all but the 1/3 mostly consists of ppl who already owned the WiiU. Mario didn't really sell much systems
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HighResHero  +   164d ago
Dat Kranky Kong though.
mike32UK  +   163d ago
@JAY70 the wiiu is dead man. Deal with it
torchic  +   164d ago
*sales
GenericNameHere  +   164d ago
What did Wii owners buy other than Just Dance, Wii Fit, and 1st-party Nintendo games? When you buy a console with only a few third-party support, what else are you gonna buy? I'm gonna predict inFamous Second Son doing better than Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. AND I'm also gonna predict the PS4 outselling the Wii U worldwide by March 31st. The Xbone doing the same a month later. The Wii U will be the GameCube 2.0, like many people have been saying before.
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Jay70sgamer  +   164d ago
Did you just see the nintendo report nintendo said they sold almost 5.86 million wii u since launch the report is out ......it almost at 6,000,000 ...two million wii u sold since before the holidays ......just saying
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Bathyj  +   164d ago
Pfft, I wish it were as good a console as Gamecube.
oof46  +   163d ago
@Jay70sgamer: The ps4 and Xbox One are on target to outsell the WiiU. Donkey Kong will sell, but more than Mario? I doubt it. Xbox One and ps4 console sales have slowed down a bit because of supply problems and lack of compelling software, but that will change soon. What is troubling is two consoles a hundred and two hundred dollars more expensive than the WiiU are on the verge of outpacing it. Nintendo needs a price drop.
While, you no doubt, love your console, Nintendo has clearly lost 3rd party support and, because of muddled advertising, the casual market that ate up the Wii. The best analogy I've read is instead of anticipating where the puck will be, Nintendo is bent on dictating where the puck will go. It worked wonders with the Wii, but, they have not repeated that success with the WiiU.
Nintendo is not going to die, but they really need to rethink their strategy if they want to regain top dog status.
scissor_runner  +   163d ago
Jay70sgamer has a point. Yet even I question the selling power of a few games here.

Looking for the wii fit u data... almost nothing. Wii sports club is the same and I though 3d Mario was going to sell like a 3d mario. Mario kart 8 and smash are all I can see doing huge numbers if that doesn't work it may be time for a Nintendo Killzone or halo fest fps or buy enix.

It is hard to to tell yet we aren't seeing a ps3 like movement yet. The fast sales are impressive for hype reasons yet we will see what the true demand is for ps4 in the future.... it is kinda artificially high right now There are no games pushing those numbers. The reasons for why it is selling if board line faddish at best. Sony can't even get its laptops to sell like the ps4. I looked at a 4k sony today but was won over by an LG...

There seems to be a rebellion against getting a wiiu due to marketing. Marketing is the main reason the wii sold yet once you got it at least 20 million gamers where out buying games. The marios did crazy numbers, mk smash even dk did crazy numbers. While wii fit and sports resort play all did incredible numbers.

A thesis on marketing needs to be done on this like how a book was written about sony after their troubles. Even none bias media put down the reveal of the wiiu, yet apple is still going strong.

The ps2 was king because it meant you got to keep more of your money. It has always been about making more money.
GenericNameHere  +   163d ago
"Did you just see the nintendo report nintendo said they sold almost 5.86 million wii u since launch the report is out ......it almost at 6,000,000 ...two million wii u sold since before the holidays ......just saying"

Yes, yes I did. That was SHIPPED numbers. And I wouldn't be happy if ONLY 6Mil Wii Us were sold from November 18th, 2012 - Now. Then that last thing you said before "just saying"... 2 Million Wii Us sold during the holidays. Uh huh. A WHOPPING 2M... Worldwide.

The holiday shopping basically start on November, and there were TWO big things that came out that month. If the Wii U to you was impressive at 2M sold from November-January 1st, then I can't imagine what you would say about the Xbone and PS4. What with them being more expensive and not having must have games ATM.

NOTE: I know you, or someone, will bring up the Vita sales. To save you the trouble, "It doesn't matter". We're not talking about handhelds here. We're not talking about Sony's financials here. We're talking about the Wii U and how Nintendo is handling it. The 6M report was SHIPPED, and even if they sold 6M since the Wii U's release two years ago, that's really small.
scissor_runner  +   163d ago
The amount of ps4 sold don't matter ethier unless they keep that pace. It's like claiming victory as the sprinters begin the race only slow thinking person would claim victory so far from the finish kine.

Also we ignore the fact that nothing else sony made sells as well. Then we don't see the powerhouse games. The only conclusion you can come with is fan boys buying hoping that sony makes better games. I've been hoping for this since the ps2 days.

I'm liking that sony is starting to sell closer to its rivals... Sony use to mean normal gear at premium price just because they did something different yet got the same out come... memory sticks stick out the worst. Lol.
WeAreLegion  +   164d ago
Took first again, eh? Nice.
Majin-vegeta  +   164d ago
Wow nice
Much success
such Greatness

No??Ok then *slowly backs out of the room*

OT:Look at that PS4 go.
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akurtz  +   164d ago
Healthy sales. Alive and thriving.
Father__Merrin  +   164d ago
lol at claiming victory, P.S.4 will pull ahead now once the Japan release is done and full supply is made to all territories Xbox1 will be left

Microsoft will HAVE TO DO YET ANOTHER 180 by dropping kinect to get price lower

only Sony has stayed true to its original vision to have P.S.4 as a full on games device and have not changed anything

Microsoft on the other hand have flip flopped all over, I sometimes believe Xbox fans will start to believe in Harvey Dent one day

the truth hurts!!!!!!
Death  +   163d ago
Seriously?

Knack and Killzone are the games. Now is the announcement which brings PS3 games to your smart phone among other non-gaming devices and includes a subscription TV service. Sony is shifting focus away from consoles so they can sell more TVs, tablets, PC's and smartphones. They are also pushing media faster and harder than anyone as they look to compete toe to toe with cable companies.

Sony has marketed the PS4 as a games first device while doing everything but bring games to it.
oof46  +   163d ago
Both new consoles are going through the post launch lull. It happens with every console. You have a bevy of launch games and then the wait for the next great game. They are coming. You have Second Son for the ps4 and Titanfall for the Xbox One.

I would agree with you on Sony trying to sell more peripheral hardware if they had locked Playstation Now to only Sony hardware, but it'll work on any device. So they aren't pushing Sony TVs, tablets, PCs and smartphones, they are trying to make their service available to as wide an audience as possible.

Sony taking on cable companies? From what I've read, they're trying to offer they're own version of the Xbox One's TV service.
scissor_runner  +   163d ago
Death has a point. Main articles have been written on how bad the ps4 lunch games are. The reviews are just as bad. The hype is wearing thin. The fans have spoken yet you have to ask will there be enough to stay ahead.

Man remember how Nintendo was surely dead once the wiiu was known? Notice how people don't know about the wiiu? Every one wants it to be cheaper, the key is they want.... demand is only snagged on perception right now. So we will see what the truth of the matter really is.

I still have all my ps2 games and I have a ps3... so what games are coming to the ps4 that I want...

I may just get another sony device to use ps now. If I use it at all.

I'm just not seeing the appeal and rush to go out and get one. Had it been a real 4k device I would be on it... I'm upgrading my pc and TV for that though.

Sony needs more fans to buy their laptops, tvs, etc etc... seriously keep these guys alive... they are this close ..... to learning what it means to have the total package, yet they are not quite there yet.
CaulkSlap  +   164d ago
Looks like PS4 will have overtaken the Wii U this week. Xbox One not far behind. 50/50 split for PS4/XBO is definitely not an encouraging sign for Microsoft. 360 sold 60/40 over PS3 in the US and they still about tied globally. We'll start to see the true picture once PS4 launches in Japan and the supply catches up to demand.
KakashiHotake  +   164d ago
It's becoming pretty sad that Sony can't muster up enough supply. It's like jumping into a gun fight with a Machine Gun, and no bullets.
first1NFANTRY  +   164d ago
Lol the dumb trolls will claim victory will the rest of the world basks in ps4 glory. The US is really not going to be a deciding factor this gen the rest of the world will.
urwifeminder  +   163d ago
Neck and neck great news for all good to see that xb1 software moving.
No_Limit  +   163d ago
Went to a store today and no PS4 in stock and saw a bunch of XB1 (Around 40-50) sitting of the shelve. I think I made the correct decision to went with the PS4. Sony will reclaim America once supply is readily available.

$100 more for a weaker system and Kinect still just a glorified voice controller, what is there to think about, PS4 all the way.
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Death  +   163d ago
And the PS4 is simply a PS3 with prettier graphics. You didn't have to think, you did the popular thing.

150,000 less Xbox Ones according to fakechartz and Xbox One owners bought 750,000 more games. Less consoles selling more game.

At the end of the day if you like Sony exclusives more, you made the right choice. If you are new to consoles and picked up the hardware leader that has a user base with less reasons to buy games this far, I'm not sure you made the "right" choice.
pyramidshead  +   163d ago
damn dude, I swear you used to be waaay more Xbox preferred last year, what happened and what brought on the change? :O
jessupj  +   163d ago
Not trying to be a troll, but it genuinely baffles me that in the US the more expensive and significantly less powerful console created by a company that has absolutely no passion for gaming what so every is selling very close to the PS4, the cheaper more powerful console backed by a company really cares about the industry.

What do Americans see that the rest of the world doesn't? I just don't get it.
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mmc-007  +   163d ago
"What do Americans see that the rest of the world doesn't? I just don't get it." wtf?

its only selling good in America the rest of the world knows the xbox one sucks. And should be priced the same as the Wii U.
Death  +   163d ago
Sony has a passion for selling TV's. From the start, Sony fought against the Playstation. Sony offering to stream games via Now across their various brands will fragment their userbase. Casual gamers will have less reason to buy a console when they can stream them to their 2014 Sony Bravias and Blu-ray players.

As far as Americans go, it looks like they are split between the two platforms to this point. I would imagine people buy the console with the games they want to play. Killzone and Knack weren't the best games to launch with and offered little reason to switch to a Sony platform.
mmc-007  +   163d ago
Playstation now is "only" gonna stream PS3 games. When people get hocked on those PS3 games they want more -> PS4. How is PS now hurting the PS4 console its not streaming PS4 games.. Maybe in the futer it will, when the console is at the end of it life cycle.

"Killzone and Knack weren't the best games to launch with and offered little reason to switch to a Sony platform."
atleast I'm sure sony is gonna support their console trough out its life cycle, just count the amount of exclusives the PS3 had in 2013/2012 vs the xbox one. just imagine if they hold out all those games like MS did and released it on the PS4.. But yea, people these days like to get screwed over MS knows that. :D
Hicken  +   163d ago
"Killzone and Knack."

Right, cuz Ryse and Forza 4.5 were definitely worth it.

Idiots buy these consoles for their launch libraries. It's hundreds of dollars worth of hardware you'll be using for the next 5+ years; only an idiot would make the decision based on launch games, and only an idiot would keep using that as justification.

Sony has a passion for gaming, which is why they have developed the ability to stream their games to their various devices. Even so, the best way to play those games will be on Sony consoles. The MOST games will be on Sony consoles(speaking specifically of the streaming aspect, lest you get some weird ideas in your head). The premier gaming experience will be on Sony consoles. Sony keeping the casuals buying their hardware is a bad thing? In this era of tablets and mobile phones, casuals aren't likely to get a console anyway; might as well keep them buying your other products, if what they want is games.

As for people switching to Sony consoles, most folks who switched did that before launch lineups were even revealed. They made that decision based on the differing policies between Sony and Microsoft. Or based on the pedigree of the developer stables. Or both.

Again: only an idiot would have based their choice off the handful of games exclusive to the two systems in the first two to three months.

Hey, why don't we talk about marketshare like you love to do? Why not mention how Xbox has lost HALF its marketshare to the PS4? Or is it 2/3? I don't remember whether the 360 outsold the PS3 3:1 or 2:1, but in either case, it's not doing that now. That's gotta be considered a loss for Microsoft, who spent BILLIONS marketing their device in the last gen to gain all that marketshare in the largest market, the only one that counts according to Xbox fanboys.

What's Microsoft gonna do now, since all those marketing dollars amounted to NOTHING long-lasting? Units are- or were- in stock for the PS4, and it's already returned to leading the XB1 in sales, just as anybody without a green "X" branded in their brains could have predicted.

What are YOU gonna do now, Death? What tiny fragment of the truth will you try and twist next?
Death  +   163d ago
Marketshare is divided between the WiiU, PS4 and Xbox One. Currently we have seen announcements of 5.86 million for the WiiU, 4.2 million PS4's and 3.0 million Xbox Ones. The later being announced as of 12/31/13. In the past 60 days the PS4 has gained 50% more marketshare than the Xbox One. We need more time to determine the overall impact each console will have on this generation.

Last gen sales in millions is 100/80/80 for the Wii, PS3 and Xbox.

I'm not sure I would label someone an idiot for choosing the console that has more games they want to play at launch. Look at software sales and you will see more Xbox Owners are buying more software to play on their console then PS4 owners. If PS4 owners didn't buy consoles for the games, why did they buy one at all? As both libraries improve, retail prices will drop. I wouldn't call someone an idiot for paying a premium price and then waiting to justify the purchase later when prices dropped, they would simply be early adopters or passionate gamers.

Only an idiot would call people with a different opinion than theirs an idiot. A PS4 at this time for me isn't a wise investment. As more games come out that I want to play, I'm sure I will have one. Right now, even at it's higher pricepoint the Xbox One has more games that interest me. That is why I bought one first. If that makes me an idiot, I'm ok with that.
Gunstar75  +   163d ago
@hicken

This "idiot" pre-ordered both consoles 6 months before launch but cancelled his ps4 pre-order 2 weeks before release.

This "idiot" will buy a PS4, but not before there are games I want to play on it.

This "idiot" based his day one purchase on whether there were games he wanted to play.

This "idiot" is glued to Killer Instinct. Which in his opinion was the best launch title on either system.

I guess you could say I'm a happy idiot.
KevinCubes  +   163d ago
Stay out of our affairs foreigner. ;)
bligmerk  +   163d ago
Apparently, some people forget last week when MS was crowing about outselling the PS4 in the US for the month of December. Now, for the second week of January, the PS4 is outselling the XBO in the US on a weekly and to date basis. So, the PS4, which is supply limited, is still outshipping and outselling the XBO. This Xbox fanbois fools game lasts for a few more weeks, then the XBO is obliterated. By E3, the interest in market sales numbers will be greatly reduced in the puke green camp.
Death  +   163d ago
"XBO is obliterated"

Says the hardcore gamer when he sees the PS4 sell 1,548 more consoles in a week according to a fake reporting site.
DivineAssault  +   163d ago
cant wait to see these systems performing at higher levels in terms of apps & nx gen engines.. I bet a lot more ppl will have a solid decision on what home console they want to own
TristanPR77  +   163d ago
Xbone logic

PS4 is beating the Xbone worldwide and is the cumulative leader in the US. PS4 was out of stock on December and xbone sold more only on the US that month.

"Xbone is dominating the PS4 everywhere"

This kind of thinking makes me believe xbone supporters are just 8 years old kids who could not even make sense of things.
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Death  +   163d ago
Out of stock would be selling zero consoles for the month. Sony sold through the amount they allocated for the month. That was a choice Sony made.

Microsoft fans aren't the ones screaming a return to domination. We are the ones listening to the 8 year olds constantly calling us stupid for buying a console that doesn't say Playstation on it. It's cute that you can sit here and call us names while we appearantly buy more software and support our choice with our wallets instead of attacking people on message boards with our free time.
JeffGUNZ  +   163d ago
@ Death

Don't waste your time man. No matter what you say or how well you present your opinion, the same fanboys will disagree and attack.

Over the summer and last year before these consoles launched, these same fanboys ALWAYS said; "We play games, not sales" even though their software numbers were less than MS. Now, since PS4 is selling more units then X1, all they are talking about is sales.

It's complete hypocrisy. The fact that any person passionately cares about how many sales the PS4 or the X1 has compared to the other is baffling. They try and give out the same story "I care about the market" or "I care about the industry". Really? If that were the case the argument should be are Sony and MS meeting their projected numbers. The answer is yes, both companies are EXCEEDING their projected numbers.

It's some imaginary "war" that pre-teen and teenaged nerds live for, it's sad. At the end of the day, a PS4 is still going to give you the same experience whether or not it is selling more or less than the competition. The only thing "fanboys" should care about is whether the company they support is meeting company goals so they stay in business and thrive.

Death, wait till 2-3 years if the X1 is outselling Sony in America, then we will hear "that's MS turf" or "America isn't the world!". It is the same hashed and rehashed arguments year after year. You're wasting your time trying to provide any logic to these people who are apparently insecure or afraid that you and I and millions of others bought a X1. Apparently, my gaming hobby, with my time and my money is of extreme importance and concern for them.
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JeffGUNZ  +   163d ago
@ tristanPR77

Please provide some proof people on this site are saying"Xbone is dominating the PS4 everywhere"? I haven't seen that and no one is saying that. Just because you put quotation marks on something doesn't mean it's real. Kudos to Sony for their PS4, but lets not throw quotes around sentences and make stuff up, eh?
Obscure_Observer  +   163d ago
After the DRM fiasco, the tv tv tv talk, the casual focus BS, +100 dolar, Dom Mattric, The Resolution Gate, 50% less powerful BS, and all bad press from media outlets, X1 is doing VERY. WELL, in my book. ^ ^

Sony' s leading the console market right now, and i'm okay with that too. ^ ^

After all, they deserve praise and respect from us X1 fans. Sony and their pro gamers aproach, made MS reverse their politics. Reason alone that made X1 compeling for me.

Sony will lead this gen as long they can deliver games. MS's software sales are good, and they are working on more quality exclusives and hiring good talent.

2014 is gonna be a good year for REAL gamers.
Bdub2000  +   163d ago
I've got an X1, some great launch titles, have been very entertained, and even if Microsoft doesn't sell a single other console, I still got millions of other people to game with. I won the "console war", and so did the individual that bought a ps4 and is satisfied with their purchase.

DONE AND DONE...
Gunstar75  +   163d ago
When the underdog has bottomless pockets, it's a good day.

MS being put under the relentless pressure from sad rag media outlets and idiotic fanboys will only make them more determined to succeed. As an XB1 owner, that pleases me.

keep on bashin' kiddies...poke the bear
jacksjus  +   163d ago
I think it's funny how one week they present it as global one week and the next as U.S only. I expect XBox One to eventually overtake the U.S while the PS4 claims things globally, very similar to the last gen. The only difference this time is the XOne will be less dominant in the U.S and the PS4 will be more dominant globally. The U.S is MS territory so obviously they will get the lead.
jacksjus  +   163d ago
You'd think that PS4 would have sold more software having the higher hardware sells in the U.S, but I think the fact that PS4 has offered so many free games, it kept folks from having to buy more games.
Jay70sgamer  +   163d ago
Mario kart is launching in May ...confirmed...........atleast they finally have a release month
AJBACK2FRAG  +   163d ago
I really can't wait!

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