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Submitted by TheNewSquid 739d ago | opinion piece

Will Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Be Hampered by Nintendo’s Poor Online Infrastructure?

Zoran Cunningham writes: "The thought of playing dozens of hours of the upcoming Super Smash Bros. to unlock characters, stages, and tons of fun in-game trophies only to have it potentially washed away by a glitched firmware update or power surge is the stuff of nightmares. It’s enough to make any fan second guess purchasing the digital version of any major title on the Wii U." (3DS, Super Smash Bros., Wii U)

SCW1982  +   739d ago
Yes unfortunately.
XisThatKid  +   739d ago
In short, Yes. At least the online aspect about it anyway but that's obvious that is what we're talking about the online aspect and not the local multi. That has nothing to do with this topic here.
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crusf  +   738d ago
From the Man himself : “That’s why I’ll probably be thinking of a way to deal with that[Online Play] in the next game. We’ve learned a lot about net play since Brawl was released, after all, so a lot more is possible.”
DarthZoolu  +   738d ago
Yes online was the biggest letdown in Brawl. Brawl was way to arcadey also. Melee might be the best fighting game ever made (outside of how op jiggly puff is). I am sure it will be even more noob friendly and the online will be horrible again.
XisThatKid  +   738d ago
Agreed DarthZoolu The days of Falco Laser-locking and wavedashing. Lcanceling and Fox Shine trapping. Game and watch, Jiggly and DK walls of paining. Some old frustrating but fun times. My whole thing is and still keep in mind the infrastructure has to do with their patch ability as well which I doubt they will. If something is Broke, leave it broke Brawl has taught me this when it comes to Smash Bros.
N4g_null  +   738d ago
Have you guys tried the video chat yet? It works pretty good too.
DarthZoolu  +   738d ago
I don't care about video chat I care about lag free online multiplayer.
XisThatKid  +   737d ago
Guess some people LIKE Lag Smash than......go figure.
princejb134  +   738d ago
I hope not
Really looking forward to this game
I wouldn't say nit edits online is horrible in every game
I used to own jump ultimate stars a anima 4 player game and online was lag less 90% of the time
Chrischi1988  +   738d ago
It is a trend right now to bash nintendos online, they never specify it, it is just bad online, not why it is bad. I mean seriously, games during Wii times had online functionality, like Mario Kart Wii. I bet like 90% of the people calling the online bad, actually never played a Wii U game online. They say the infrastructure is bad, is it bad in CoD? No it is normal, what is the problem with the online? The amount of players maybe, but not that the infrastructure does not work correctly or laggy.
JohnnyTower  +   739d ago
Nope. One of the biggest draws of SSB is having 4 people in the same room on the same screen being able to play. Split Screen multiplayer games are fading fast. Nintendo's archaic online wont really matter. People love to play with friends, even if its in the same room.
SpiralTear  +   739d ago

Local multiplayer is steadily being phased out in the gaming world today. Fewer and fewer games are including it. Nintendo's not letting it disappear, leaving them and a select few other developers to keep the local multiplayer vibe fresh and exciting.

No game does that better than Smash Bros. That's its strongest appeal.
Chrischi1988  +   738d ago
Exactly, but I dont want to pay for Need for Speed and dont have a local multiplayer. I expect local multiplayer in a racing game.
Moncole  +   738d ago
They can always it to do a mode that when you play with the Wii U gamepad it records you with the camera and it shows the other players on the screen. So everyone can see everyones reaction.
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deafdani  +   738d ago
No. Just no. That's just apologism.

Yes, local multiplayer is awesome, and yes, Nintendo is still pretty much the king on that area.

That doesn't excuse their historically poor performance regarding all things online.

Keep the two facts separate, please. This article isn't about local multiplaer, it's about Nintendo's archaic and outdated views regarding online. In that area, they have a lot of catching up to do, and it would benefit us, as gamers, greatly, if they did so.
JohnnyTower  +   738d ago
You're absolutely right about nintendo's online experience. But in regards to super smash bros, I can't see the multiplayer online being make-or-break for most gamers. Ssb never really had it before and it's a massive seller. But maybe ninty plans on bringing it in.
deafdani  +   738d ago
Johnny, Brawl "had" online play. The problem was, it was absolutely boken. It was unplayable for pretty much everyone.

Mario Kart is a series that was always awesome with local multiplayer. And since the DS version, every Mario Kart game has had online play as well, and that franchise became even better because of that.

Same can happen with Smash Bros, and pretty much any Nintendo game with multiplayer, really.
Chrischi1988  +   738d ago
Of course, online multiplayer is always better to have, too, but in most games I would rather have a local multiplayer then online multiplayer. I dont play while I am alone and I am not a fan to play against somebody I dont know online. The worst that can happen, is what happened to Need for Speed, no local multiplayer, but online multiplayer... I really had no fun with that game and sold it as fast as I could.
Concertoine  +   739d ago
They need a universal invite system like the 360 has. Otherwise, most of nintendo's games have had top notch lag free gameplay. Namco might be there to help with the online stuff.
WeAreLegion  +   739d ago
Maybe. I don't always have three friends over to play brawlers. We still do weekly PSASBR matches, which is great because you can play against people whether they're on PS3 or Vita.

So, I really hope Nintendo nails it with this one. Please don't screw up the online!
izumo_lee  +   739d ago
It is a problem that Nintendo has to nail cause it has taken Microsoft & Sony many years to get their online infracture satisfactory. There will always be problems but the more experience the better to deal with these problems.

I think this is one of the reasons the Wii U is struggling. In the age of digital & online games being so relevant it is imperative that your online infracture is up to the task. Nintendo is severly lacking in this department cause of their such late entry into the game.

Playstation All-Stars may not have been the game that will rival Smash Bros. but one thing it did right (for the most part) was the online. This is one thing Sakurai and his team can learn from.
Yep  +   739d ago
As an online experience, it'll be short of greatness if Nintendo is to do the bare minimum with online, but as an offline experience, it'll be fine.
clouds5  +   739d ago
Wo the dude is taking for 3 Paragraphs about the wii friend system and how awful it was and then another two paragraphs about the 3DS.
And it says in one sentence that the wii u actually has the same system as all the other console. You chose your username and that is your ID. You can search for people by username and it even has its own social network style platform called MiiWorld. And online play on all the games I played was flawless. The only real difference is achievements that are missing on wii u.

You can clearly see by just a glance that the article is trying to bash the wiiu with information that was only relevant to its predecessor.

Btw I'm a pc gamer. But this kind of journalism is going on my nerves.
BosSSyndrome  +   739d ago
Power surge? How would that be anyone's fault?
Anyway I have no idea whoa this notion is about Nintendo's "poor online". It isnt developed to the degree of psn or xbl, but every online game I've played on Wii U has run smoothly with no problems other than injustice but we all know how that went. Smash bros will be fine. Its not like its gonna be like brawl.
mohuzas  +   739d ago
those people who say Nintendo's online multiplayer is poor either just tried out the DS/Wii "Nintendo WFC" or is just jumping on the bandwagon, Nintendo's WiiU/3DS "Nintendo Network" is pretty on-par in the online multiplayer department with something like PSN, it's the eShop features and such that are lacking.
Crillvirus81  +   739d ago
No it won't ..There online is great right now they just need to get a party chat system in place but everything else works great ..I play call of duty and trine 2 online a lot with no problems
LAWSON72  +   738d ago
Nintendo has great ambition with local multiplayer but they really should try to improve the online experience. Couch coop is dying and reviving the popularity will not happen. I am all for keeping it alive, but everyo everyone these days are connected over the internet and like to have fun experiences with friends from the comfort over their own home at anytime.

Nintendo needs to get with the times if not their home consoles will remain unpopular
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Orange Juice  +   738d ago
The fun for me in ssb is the local play so no sweat imo. I just hope it plays okay.
Dgamer  +   738d ago
As a Wii U owner, I can speak on its online structure. There is nothing wrong with Nintendos online gaming. Nintendo is not Sony or Microsoft. Friend codes where horrible, but that is the past. Nintendo makes affordable gaming consoles, at $300, It out performs everything in that price range in the gaming world. Period.
truechainz  +   738d ago
When it comes to smash (at least for me) everything will be there that I need. I simply need to be able to go out into matchmaking and beat down on some random people, or play with my friends in a custom game. The only features that are really not present as far as in-game for wii u are party chat across different games, sharing, streaming, and achievements. Those are all great and like everyone else I encourage Nintendo to improve on their online infrastructure, but none of them actually enhance the gameplay experience in my opinion so to say that this game will be hampered will be unlikely. This game for me should be very easy to make fun online, and if they are looking at how horrible the wii version's online was then improving should be no hard task. Excited to see how mariokart's online improves as well.
ThaBlackBaron  +   738d ago
WTF? What poor Online Infrastructure? Why do idiots continue to "write articles" about ish they know nothing about!

Nintendo Network is GReat! Pretty much the same as PSN and Xbox Live! and in MANY ways Better!
gedden7  +   738d ago
eah I don't have any problems with it! Hey bro wheres the youtube videos????
PeteyMcPickle  +   738d ago
I won't be playing online anyway. As far as I'm concerned, the only way to play smash bros multiplayer is in the same room as your friends, not online. The same goes for mario party and mario kart.
Reeze  +   738d ago
I think they'll do a great job with online this time. Brawl was pretty laggy, but I think they've stepped up their game.
gedden7  +   738d ago
I agree, Sport Club is pretty good!!
gedden7  +   738d ago
Bad online infrastructure????

Yes they're no really parting friend inviting and voice chat. But the games that do play online PLAY VERY WELL. Assassin Creed, Black Ops 2 and Ghost all play very well! Surprisingly well..
Sincere0121  +   738d ago
All commentors must not have a Wii U or must have a really poor internet connection as I've never had any problems playin online on my Wii or Wii U, no glitches or anythin, it always runs smoothly compared to other consoles.

I still love and play Mario kart Wii online and it still runs perfectly.
Reeze  +   738d ago
Agreed. I've had almost no problems.
MasterCornholio  +   738d ago
It will still be good no doubt about that but it won't be on the same level as Xbox Live or PSN and that's due to Nintendo's inexperience with their online network.
RPG_Lover  +   738d ago
absolutely not, DS games had great online
Justindark  +   738d ago
off topic but since theirs no way to talk about n4g game of the year awards this is by far the worst game of the year i ever herd and so sony fan shit. wth two nintendo games? the rest was the last of us 2 to 3 times on a single pole? wth what r gamers gona vote for? with only one game to chose from and how the hell was the last of us nominated for best art direction? what art direction was in that game? wow n4g wow this place is disturbing.
Fanboyssuck27  +   738d ago
I agree, its ridiculous. But n4g is filled with immature sony fanboys who know nothing about gaming, you'll rarely find a real gamer on here so I'm not suprised.
lizard81288  +   738d ago
Brawl had terrible online.

Kid Icarus:Uprising had fantastic online. I hope it has as good of a netcode as that did.

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