John Koller confirmed that PS Vita has been doing really well for Sony since the launch of PS4. Will it be enough to move it out of the sands?
PS4/Vita bundle for holiday 2014. Vita will be saved for sure. 100% garanteed.
If they price it aggressively...Maybe
I'm sure they'll get it right.
Who is John Koller and is he always this spectacularly wrong? I bought a Vita in December and I love it, but I'm well aware that I'm in the extreme minority and it's a colossal flop.
It's barely two years old, it's not a flop yet. Now the Virtual Boy, that was a flop.
That's a nice thought but the Wii U isn't getting the benefit of a doubt so the Vita shouldn't get one either as far as N4G is concerned.
Wii U and Vita are not the same situation. Vita is getting indie games and JRPGs with the occasional first party exclusive so it's more like late game PSP than anything. It is not being supported as much as needed because early adopters and third party publishers didn't take the risk on the Vita they did on the home console. This created a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sony did everything right except price at launch, which is one of the mistakes Nintendo made with both 3DS and Wii U. While the price was the largest factor working against the Vita there was a lot more stuff completely out of Sony's control. Wii U is the epitome of how far behind Nintendo have gotten in community, speed of development, and its relationship with third parties and its customers. It shows they have a lot of great ideas like Miiverse and offscreen play but fail to understand they had to do a lot more to make their product competitive. Their execution on Wii U was horrible. They played it safe with their money instead of making investments on a more powerful console and better network infrastructure. Where is the account system? Its been over a year and nothing. Where is the actual good and necessary use of the touchpad? They prioritizing the wrong image and wrong products. If Nintendo had launch an Xbone equivalent with the touchpad instead of Kinect for $500 in 2012 or 2013 they'd be doing better because they would be getting third party support. Instead of Donkey Kong and 3D world(excellent games mind you), they should have used the resources for a more hardcore gamer oriented product like having a trailer for Smash Bros HD right off the bat at their announcement. They milked the Wii dry but didn't do any preparation they needed to in the mean time. Look at what Sony did with PS3 while preparing for PS4. The revamped Playstation Store which is horrible on PS3 works perfectly for PS4. They looked at what customers we complaining about most on PS3 and fixed all they could on PS4.
Well it may not be a flop yet but its sale performance is poor. The PSP(original) manage to ship more units within two years than the Vita has. http://www.webcitation.org/... Maybe the rise of mobile gaming is to blame or poor support is to blame. This generation just starting so who knows how it will turn out.
"It's barely two years old" That's probably 1/3 of its total lifetime (excluding supported time past release of successor). It's probably not going see that serious of a retribution at this point.
If the Wii U is a flop then the Vita is definitely one. Edit: Dan beat me to it.
The vita has sold two million more.
In two years? That's great...I guess?
How can the Vita be a flop? Its doing exactly what it was intended to do. Sony didn't go into it believing their product would sell more than home consoles at all. But to compare it to that child's plastic play thing "WiiU" is just stupid. Nintendo are failing because they have lost touch with their new generation of gamers, they are holding onto too much pride and need to seriously wake up and understand no one wants to shake sticks and bounce things on their heads. Super Nintendo is my favorite console of all time and it was the last good Nintendo console, Yes that includes 64, Rubbish, Rubbish Rubbish.
@cochise_313 and? The 3ds has sold more than that, so what's your point.
I would not speak ill of anything sony on this site or they will linch you. Hell even the Betamax won the war against VHS in their eyes
"The vita has sold two million more" With an extra year. It's selling at a slower rate than a console that's already selling at a slow rate.
Neither are dead but Vita is the only one of the two which is currently taking steps to try stop the bleeding.
It's really sad cause everyone including myself that's I know has got one loves it.
It IS a beautiful piece of hardware. I really wish it'd do better sales. 2014 is looking fantastic so far for my Vita.
That can't be argued. As they say, DAT OLED! Let's hope they bump the Remote Play frame rate at 60 at some point.
It really is an amazing piece of hardware. It's a shame that Sony doesn't care to tell anybody about it.
He's sayin it goes hand in hand with the PS4, PS4 is helping PSVita sales, remote play is awesome. Even VitaTV sales helps PSVita, it gives a cheap way to stream Vita content without PSVita. They are buying PSVita for it's own catalog of awsome games, it's just remote play feature opens up an awesome catalog of soon to be release PS4 games. Whats not to like(it's a BONUS).
It makes no sense to me why someone wouldn't buy a Vita for it's own game library, but would buy one just for remote play.
What REALLY makes no sense is the argument that the only rain to buy one IS remote play. It's like they forget the thing has a few hundred games that don't require a PS4 at all.
I hope the Vita picks up, it reserves it. Best damn handheld i ever bought.
Best you ever bought because... You have never had a Game Boy Color, NDS, 3DS? Or have you bought every single handheld console and can come to the conclusion that a PS Vita is far superior in every way possible?
Ugh don't be that guy, seriously.
I own a Vita & have owned a GBC, NDS & PSP in the past. Vita is the best all-round handheld in my opinion. Nintendo's consoles is often revered for it's family friendly platformers; but Rayman Legends, Sly Cooper, the Jak & Daxter trilogy, LBP & Guacamelee! (all of which are criminally underrated on the Vita) would be heralded as classics if Mario's face was photo-shopped on. Add-in more adult experiences like Uncharted, Killzone, MGS HD, NFS: Most Wanted & Gravity Rush as well as the plethora of quality Japanese RPGs (e.g. Persona, Soul Sacrafice & soon to be released FFX HD). And the added bonus of PS4 remote play, a proper media player & a decent web browser; all displayed on the beautiful OLED screen, makes it's friggen awesome portable console that no other handheld I've played comes close to topping.
lulz I had a GameBoy, a GBA, a GBA SP, a GBA Micro (yeah, I guess I really liked the GBA), and 3 different versions of the DS. Fact is, the Vita owns all of them... easily.
@Knushwood Butt Agree with you! Very well said! My list is like this: 1-PS Vita 2-GBA 3-DS 4-3DS 5-PSP I had more fun with my vita than with any other console out there, and secondly my GBA!! That was an awsome console too!!
Well I love my Vita and remote play is friggin awesome works perfect I was just playing Tomb Raider on it in my bedroom while my PS4 was streaming it down stairs. All in all if it flops that will suck but I've got a great little portable PS4 in my pocket even if they don't make another game for it. I'll always have use for it. Not to mention I have probably 30 games for it that will keep me busy for ever. No regrets on my purchase.
" I was just playing Tomb Raider on it in my bedroom while my PS4 was streaming it down stairs." Exactly why this thing is not selling like it should.. Edit: Hey a sale is a sale but I see many like you enjoying the Ps vita for similar reasons but not for Vita's library of games.
He still had to buy a PS Vita to do Remote Play, you know.
A lot of sales are going to be just for that purpose. A sale is a sale.
Exactly my feelings on the handheld. I bought it day1 and things looked a little bleak after the launch titles ran dry but looking at it now and then its so completly different. I remember when the ps store didn't have enough titles to fill one page. There's so much availiable on the system I'm nit sure why its not selling better. It has games indies and others. I didn't give two poops about indies till I tried some, most are really great and offer new ideas that AAA's need to pick up on. Remote play is a godsend in my household and has cured many arguments with the wife about who's going to watch what on TV. People can say remote play isn't a reason to own it but I doubt many have tried it or own a vita at all. Like wookie said, if it dies tomorrow I know I will always still use it for remote playing in bed, on the toilet, hotel rooms, or right on the couch playing happiky as the wife enjoys some tv series I couldn't care less about. I also have a 3ds because there's some great exclusives. I honestly feel it offers better nintendo experience than its own WiiU. On the other hand I do wish don't would show it some more first party love but they seem to be pushing ps4 development as much as possible before they put more focus on vita exclusives. That makes me sad but I also have ps4 I'm happy again lol.
We're the same. LoL. It has saved me from many hours of teen mom and the bachelor. LoL remote play honestly my FAVORITE ps4 feature. Can't wait for ps now that everyone has failed to mention.
The Vita can definitely still be a success. It is up to Sony to make the right decisions in order to make it happen.
Now if only Koller could get his ass in gear and market the Vita, we could see a steady increase in sales.
I love my Vita and I had it before the PS4 launch. I hardly play PS4 games on it, although Don't Starve is good!
I find hilarious how people will label Wii U a flop, but not Vita. Aww the hypocrisy.
Now, why don't you list the people doing that, along with proof of each stance? I'm sure you could make an equally lengthy list of people who think the Wii U is fine but call the Vita a flop. Likely longer, since a good number of them will be xbox fanboys looking for a reason to bash something Sony related. But you'll never do that, will you?
So have you not read the first few comments of this article?
Because its not. I think people need to re-educate themselves on what is a flop. Vita is a niche handheld, so was psp. I think its hilarious how people compare a niche handhelds poor sale to poor sales of a giant gaming companys HOME console. Even so WiiU is a poor sales performer but its not really a flop, yet. Examples of a flop: N-Gauge Zune Virtual Boy
I would like to compare it to the sales numbers of the 3ds. It was out for 8 months longer then the vita. Compare it to that, and it's a flop
Niche? Why because it's sales on the market aren't that impressive for being out so long? If you want to call something a "niche handheld" look no further than Nvidia Shield, Razer Edge or that new AMD gaming tablet, but the Vita is none of those. I hate to come off harsh but you guys defend Sony to no end...it's really lame.
@wraith yes it is niche. I own a 3ds too and its easy to why its out selling vita. A. It has exclusive quality games. B. the games are aimed at wide audience mainly preteens and casuals with a little bit more. Vita is marketed to basically Sony fans, hardcore fans, people on the go. However that market demographic rather play their games at home on big screen. Funny you mention shield and gaming tablets if there is such a thing. Might as well throw Ouya in their too, all of which I Consider a much bigger flop than vita ever will be. No one here is putting on armor and shields to defend Sony, get real. I love my vita but I'm not going to defend Sony as they have not shown any real support from top developers for the system. Time will tell I guess. @krib don't be that guy. C'mon its no big secret 3ds is killing vita in sales but vita was never made to blow nintendos handheld off throne. Vita was made as THE device to have in your pocket or whatever with all content available to you. Obviously gamers don't want that as much as some little pixelated mii toons and Mario. It is what it is.
N-gauge LoL. I remember being so excited about that and walking by the game store and seeing it in the window thinking how cool it was. Thank God I was young enough to not have a job or money.
@Kribwalker "I would like to compare it to the sales numbers of the 3ds. It was out for 8 months longer then the vita. Compare it to that, and it's a flop" Ok if we are going that route Lets look at this from the perspective of 3DS PSVita Wikipad Nvidia Shield Archos Game Pad All current generation dedicated game Hanheld's Largest % market share = Nintendo 2nd Largest % market share = Sony So does that make the 2ND LARGEST HOLDER OF MARKET SHARE % A FLOP? IF YOU STILL THINK SO, THAN LET ME PUT THIS ANOTHER WAY. Sony sell over 10+ million xperia smartphones a sales Quarter each one of those smartphones has Playstation Mobile, and will have access to Playstation Now! and Sony is no where near 1st, Samsung and apple sell over 30 million smartphones a sales Quarter! Does the dedicated Game handheld market look that much more impressive now? are they a flop now because they fail to even get anywhere near first or for that matter even anywhere near 2nd place in hardware and software sales? would you call them a flop now? wake up, Nintendo is not the only benchmark for a Handhelds perception to be viable in the market now, when Smartphone's and Tablets are the Market leaders. when candy crush is generating over $850,000 a day by itself! http://www.eonline.com/news... Does that mean Nintendo and Sony's profits are any less viable in the market ? No where do you think the majority of 3rd party developer's are already making the games for why do you think Sony invested into Playstation Mobile Xperia smartphones Playstation Now I Think just because of the Nintendo 3DS selling as well as it is , does not mean The PSVita is a flop, selling 7 + million over 2 years at a premium price over the cost of the 3DS+ blank memory cards + games is hardly going to be considered a flop, would they like more sales, of course they would, but to just count it as a "flop" is quite funny, because this flop has sold over 7+ million units to date and the retail chain stores are still re-ordering more units. yes not at the pace of the Nintendo 3DS, but there is still re-ordering.
haha lol n-gage was cool
I can confirm as well. Only bought PS Vita because of PS4's remote play capabilities. Then grew to love it more because of the Vita's amazing games.
There's many problems Sony needs to work on. Price- Needs to be competitive with the 3ds. Slim for 169. Memory-Slim needs at least 8gb preferably 16 built in especially since Sony is pushing PS Plus and DD so hard on vita. Games-The Vita needs big games to showcase like GOW, FF, MGS, GT, GTA, and more. These niche Japanese games won't sell vitas, only a few copies to people who already own the system. Indies while great are not a replacement to full games. They are appetizers. Vita TV-Needs to come west and make all games not fully touch dependent support it. Use a PS4 controller for the touchpad or touch functions. Vita as a system-Its isnt a PS4 accessory. Remote play is buggy and laggy, it isn't a replacement for developing first party software. Neither is PS Now. It needs retail games, big retail games. Remote Play-Its laggy and buggy. Some games are unplayable for me. Patch and update until its as smooth as the WiiU which is flawless. I'm not talking through a shitty connection from work, it doesn't work ten feet from my PS4 which shouldn't be a problem. Do half of these and it will sell. Fast. Relaunch that sucker at E3 for a price drop and some amazing AAA handheld games and its a wrap. It really is a solid system with amazing tech. There's just no reason for Joe Blow to drop 300 on a system, mem card, and a game.
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