MGS4 effectively held the PS3 to ransom for about two years. Is Zelda having the same effect on the Wii U?
....No. LMFAO. Wii U wishes it could have as much support as PS3 did back then. This comparison is an insult to the PS3.
OK Tell me what games ps3 had in it;s first 2 years that were better than Mario 3d World and PIkmin 3 hmm?
RIDDGGGGEEEEE RACEEEEEEER lol
"ps3 had in it's first 2 years" Motorstorm Heavenly Sword Resistance Fall of Man Call of Duty Modern Warfare Assassins Creed Devil May Cry 4 Uncharted Drakes Fortune Metal Gear Solid 4 Ratchet and Clank Quest for Booty GTA 4 Dead Space Saints Row 2 Bioshock Far Cry 2 Fallout 3 Resistance 2 Little Big Planet Mirrors Edge Tomb Raider: Underworld Prince of Persia List 2006 - 2008 I'm not saying they are ALL better then Mario 3D World and Pikman 3 but there's a few in there that kind of are. Uncharted, Bioshock, MGS4, Little Big Planet to name a few Remember...the PS3 had "no games"
@Foxtrot - Don't forget Warhawk. Personally speaking I'd take that entire list over Mario 3d World or Pikmin 3. OT - Highly doubtful. PS3 had much more support and had the tech to produce the best looking games of the generation. If WiiU had come out back then, who knows what would have happened, but WiiU is more comparable to PS3/360 than it is to PS4/XB1. In other words, last gen.
"The WII U The PS3 of this generation." Not sure what the author is trying to claim here. The PS3 came in second in terms of sales. Are they claiming the Wii U will be the runner up in sales? So this is a stealth trolling article about how "poorly" the PS3 did? Wha? The PS3 outsold the X360 worldwide. Its successor is outselling both the Xone and the Wii U. The Wii U has still sold more than the X1. This article really doesn't make any sense.
Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Res:FOM, Tekkan5:DR, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Folklore, Ratchet n Clank, MGS4, Yakuza, Disgea3, LittleBigPlanet and thats just first party exclusive titles in the first 2 years and there were MANY more. Like Grave said this comparison is an insult to PS3. Even with the half ass multiplatform ports during the first 2 years the PS3 was in much better shape than the M.I.A 3rd party support at the WiiU camp.
Seems like the Gamecube to me, as its games are solid but the console itself isn't appealing to a wider demographic. For clarity, I mean that its not flying off the shelves. Rather it has a set install base that is picking it up for the games that they know are good, rather than getting it for games they don't know are good but are excited to try anyways.
Metal gear solid 4, playing a game for something bigger and deeper than rescuing a princess for the 30th time adds a lot of needed fun/emotion in a game. Mario doesn't deliver.
The PS3 had 3rd party support. The Wii U doesn't have that kind of support. Not trying to piss anyone off, but that's a big difference between the PS3 and Wii U.
PS3 sold faster than the 360 (Xbox released a 1-1.5 years before the ps3 but are either even or behind now)so I don't see the point here. And comparing the new dynasty warriors....I mean Zelda to MSG4 is just terrible.
Foxtrot just destroyed your wiitarded comment also Wii U was not in the home video format wars like the PS3 was. wii u is just a kids toy not in the same league as the ps3
You would have made a better point if you just said "PS3's first year". Two years was stretching it. Anyway, it's possible that, by its second year, the Wii U will have amassed a pretty nice game library comparable in quality to that of the PS3 on its second year.
Damn you just got burned son. Back under the bridge with you.
Nah. Nintendo isn't losing 250 dollars for every system sold like the PS3 did in the beginning.
5 years straight not just the beginning.
@Dan & @DC777 The Difference between the PS3 & Wii U in the first 2 years? People were buying the PS3 even with a $600 price tag.
Wiiu is also going to finish in last place. Ps3 finished in 2nd. If anything the Wiiu is like the xbox 360 because it relied on 1st and 2nd party titles that only come out every few years, then drop support for the console after the new console comes out.
@Omegasyde One minor correction. PS3 isn't finished yet.
Here's the difference even with the rough start for ps3 it has still gone on to sell 80+ million units. I don't see the Wii U pulling off this feat even with some of the great games it has and is going to get.
so let me get this straight the 2 ppl who disagree with me believes the Wii U gonna sell 80+ million units when its all said and done?
The WiiU has been on the market for 14 months so far and has only sold 4.3m units worldwide. The 360 had already sold around 11m by that time and the PS3 had sold nearly 12m. They are now at 81m and 83m respectively. Anyone who thinks the WiiU will ever get anywhere near 80m, is beyond delusional. At its current sales rate, it will be lucky to hit around 35-40m. Edit: Just did some math, the PS3 had the highest growth rate between it and the 360, last gen. Even if the WiiU has the same growth rate as the PS3, which at its current rate is highly unlikely, it will end up with aprox 32.6m sales worldwide after 7 years. Edit2: For anyone interested, the Dreamcast sold over 10m units worldwide in its 18 months on the market. The WiiU is failing worse than the Dreamcast, by far. The only reason the WiiU is even still on the market now, is because Nintendo is too stubborn to admit they messed up.
Did you even read the article? My god you fanboys are pathetic.
Yeah this is a ridiculous statement. The Wii U is its own platform with very different types of games.
@Foxtrot Wii U within its first two years so far: Wonderful 101 Bayonetta 2 Super Smash Bros. Wii U Super Mario 3D World Xenoblade 2 Assassin's Creed IV Assassin's Creed 3 Need for Speed Most Wanted Rayman Legends Mass Effect 3 Sonic and Sega Allstars Racing Transformed Pimmin 3 Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Zelda Wind Waker HD Dr. Luigi Batman Arkham Origins Batman Arkham City Wii Party U Wii Sports HD Nano Assault Neo FAST Racing NEO Hyrule Warriors Tekken Tag 2 Injustice Gods Among Us Spider Man 2 Ninja Gaiden 3 Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Darksiders 2 Mario Kart 8 And there's still more stuff to be announced at E3 this year. Remember the Wii U is a casual console with no games. Whatever though I'm done defending the Wii U. It's shaping up to be a great console and one that I will stick with this console gen. It doesn't matter what system you get though, there will be great games on all 3 major platforms, and also PC and Steam Box. I'm personally sticking with a Wii U/Alienware Steambox combo, but that's just me. I don't care what you choose, it's your choice go ahead and have fun. People are too into these stupid console wars more than they are into playing the actual games that come out.
No problem with that combo. I'm also a PC and Nintendo guy myself- it's a great combination and is actually quite popular- I hear everyone saying that now-days. But I like to throw PlayStation in the mix as well :) Love me some Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and Kingdom hearts. It's PC, Wii U, 3DS, & PS4 for me. That's plentyy haha.
@WiiUsauce - PS3 1st 2 years; Resistance: Fall of Man (1st Party) Need for Speed: Carbon Call of Duty 3 Fight Night Round 3 MotorStorm (1st Party) Formula One: Championship Edition (1st Party) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas Colin McRae: Dirt Heavenly Sword (1st Party) Skate Folklore (1st Party) Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction (1st Party) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga Assassin's Creed Medal of Honor: Airborne Time Crisis 4 (Exclusive) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (1st Party) Unreal Tournament 3 Burnout Paradise Devil May Cry 4 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Army of Two Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (1st Party) Grand Theft Auto IV Race Driver: Grid Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Exclusive) Battlefield: Bad Company Soulcalibur IV Ferrari Challenge: Trofeo Pirelli Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway Dead Space Saints Row 2 BioShock Far Cry 2 LittleBigPlanet (1st Party) Fallout 3 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (1st Party) Resistance 2 (1st Party) Call of Duty: World at War Mirror's Edge This list smokes the WiiU's current software and doesn't include any digital content from PSN which includes Pain, Ratchet: Quest for Booty and more PS3 classics! Additionally; Hyrule Warriors & Project X may not even release this year.
Exactly, not even close. Nintendo's online service is still a joke, PSN had 40 player resistance day 1.
Nintendo fanboys wish it was.
They're always in denial ;)
I see wii u as more of its own story atm but only time will tell I suppose.
Yeah... No. Not even one thing parallels.
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You sure it isn't your arteries?
No the Wii U is the new GameCube
I can only hope it will have as many interesting titles as the GameCube.
No. It's more like the Dreamcast in terms of sales. Just without the incredible games or cutting edge features that made the Dreamcast an undeserved failure.
Nope, it's the Wii U of this generation...
Lol pretty much sums it up
Yeah because MGS4 was a series.
Is this the most ridiculous article this generation?
You can't really compare because they make most of their own big games they don't get some huge influx from 3rd party. PS3 was freaking expensive and personally my PS2 was still great. Wii U is a fine and fun system that still plays most games pretty well. It's the company that has done it injustice with giving it a terrible name, doing terrible marketing (when there was any), terrible timing and not getting their big games out fast enough. Either way PS3 didn't win anything and may yet lose to 360 who knows since they are both flying off the shelves lately. Slow start...sure but new consoles are always slow because there's rarely a lot of games for them. Even the new ones will taper off shortly.
This is a joke right?..I'm not even going to bother actually reading the article... For the WiiU to play the "PS3" roll it would need to actually be the most powerful console, held back by its enormous launch price and its asinine hardware design... The Wii U shares NOTHING with the PS3 outside of some strong first party software...
No the PS3 was a beast in power when it released passing high end PCs. but now Ps4/xone are weak as hell compared to mid high PCs so what does that make wiiu?
since when did ps3 pas high end pcs? uhhhhh never?
When it launched, actually.
Look it up it was widely accepted as fact amongst even the hardcore pc elitist
The 8800GTX launched within a couple weeks of the PS3 and was more than twice as powerful.
wow,so much wrong with the title.
the Wii U is more like the wii of this generation(not sale wise)
Nah, more of a GameCube 2. Which isn't really an insult if you ask me. GameCube had some of my favorite games and Wii U's lineup this year already looks promising to me, despite the shitty sales.
The guy is trying to say that if the Wii U can make a comeback like the PS3 did and finish the generation very strong, with great games. That doesn't necessarily mean the Wii U has to get a lot of games and selling like hot cakes. No. But, anyway, I highly doubt it, I just hope can make of the Wii U a great worthy machine, more like the GameCube 2, and that's a great honor. That little purple cube has my favorite games of all time, like Pikmin 2, Paper Mario 2, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Luigi's Mansion, Eternal Darkness, Star Fox Adventures, among others.
First you guys were claiming the WiiU will make a comeback like the 3ds... In its first year it got a price cut but still no comeback now it'll somehow make a turnaround like the ps3 did at a much lower price? Get out of here ;)
What is your problem? Show me a message when I claimed that I cared about the "comeback". You won't find it, because I don't care if the Wii U gets a comeback or not. I just bother sometimes because the very bad sales don't let to the console get third party games, that's it. Good sales or not, this will never quit the chance of the Wii U to get very good games. "Get out of here". What's that? Do you think I constantly come here and troll PSVita because it doesn't sell very good either? No, I think I should receive a better treat from you.
The WiiU wishes it was the PS3 of this gen. I doubt it will reach 80 mil sold, not with that online service. I wish Nintendo the best of luck, but it's not happening. 1st sign of it going downhill was choosing to make Donkey Kong tropical Freeze over Metroid. Big announcement; Cranky Kong!
nintendo does not rush out games like other company. there games take time exp big hitters like zelda and met we wont see legend of zelda links grand escape legend of zelda the links fortune and legend of zelda escap from happy island.in one gen thats for shore let alone zelda games r roughly 5 to 6 times longer then all of some games sequels put together! same goes with fire emblem and even one metroid game. andd man there sure is alot of sony fans on this nintendo article.
Nah, Wii U won't be this gen's PS3 because: 1. PS3 didn't release first. 2. Retailed for $500-$600. 3. Still had strong 1st, 2nd & 3rd party support. 4. It's now sitting at 80+ million, which I doubt Wii U will ever reach. It's going to take more than the usual Mario, Smash, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid ect for Wii U to get up there now that casuals have gone mobile. Ya fanboys can keep bragging about how much money Nintendo have over Sony, how they always profit, and how Nintendo "saved" the gaming industry during the 80s, w.e... Fate is gonna bite you in the ass for not acknowledging Nintendo having problems, ya fanboys are the reason why Nintendo does not get 3rd party support, and Nintendo needs to.get with the program and know this ain't the 80s-90s anymore. Edit: SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST.
You forgot. These Sony Lost $250 for every system sold for the first 4 years. Sony lost hundreds of millions trying to win the format war through R and D and selling blu-ray players at a loss. Led to Sony post a 5.5 billion dollar loss in 2012. Remember Nintendo just posted a loss of 300 million. I'm bad at math but not that bad. Led to Sony selling their headquarters for a billion dollars to get in the black in 2013. Sony shares at an all time low.
Don't show them the facts it'll get you downvoted in oblivion
First of all, we're talking about the consoles, and second,this ain't about each company's financial woes. You can brag about how much money Nintendo has over Sony and how Sony is broke, all that bullcrap, that doesn't change the fact the Wii U isn't doing great, and it won't replicate a last gen console's success that was the most expensive, harder to program for, but still managed to have 3rd party support, and brought the best of their 1st party studios, and went on to sell 80+m despite selling it at a loss. So please, enough with the financials bullcrap to defend your silly ass company of your choice having a difficult time when they're clearl at fault.
"So please, enough with the financials bullcrap to defend your silly ass company of your choice having a difficult time when they're clearl at fault" Nah. I don't think i will. seeing as the entire reason we anyone is even talking about Nintendo is because the ignorant public at large seems to believe they are on the brink. Every article on N4G that touches on Nintendo's financial situation fails to make an even base line comparison to the billions being lost by their competitors. Oh and speaking of a companies silly ass decisions lets not forget about the Vita. A handled that is just as disastrous as the Wii U. Better yet perhaps we should forget it. Lord knows everyone else has. Oh and 80 million is sales doesn't mean anything if you were actively losing money for each one of those 80 million. If you think that is an accomplishment then you should never EVER run a business. Actually better yet perhaps you should. You might actually learn something.
Nah, Wii U won't be this gen's PS3 because: 1. PS3 didn't release first. 2. Retailed for $500-$600. 3. Still had strong 1st, 2nd & 3rd party support. 4. It's snow sitting at 80+ million, which I doubt Wii U will ever reach. It's going to take more than the usual Marios, Smash, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid ect for Wii U to get up there now that casuals have gone mobile. Ya fanboys can keep bragging about how much money Nintendo have over Sony, how they always profit, and how Nintendo "saved" the gaming industry during the 80s, w.e... Fate is gonna bite you in the ass for not acknowledging Nintendo having problems, ya fanboys are the reason why Nintendo does not get 3rd party support, and Nintendo needs to.get with the program and know this ain't the 80s-90s anymore.
Ignoring the people who obviously took the article as a challenge/insult... The article is trying to get the point across that the Wii U is due for a "big seller" game that will make its sales start to race forward. For a short time, the PS3 was basically "held hostage" because some people were waiting for that one really great game to come out that would make the console worth owning. For a lot of people, on the PS3, that was MGS4, and for good reason. What the article is trying to get at, is that the Wii U draws comparison to that particular point of the PS3's early days before it picked up in sales; people are slowly starting to realize that the Wii U is a system they want to own. But. A lot of them are claiming that they're waiting for one or two really epic releases to hit it. And one of the most frequent mentions, as everyone knows, is Next-Gen Zelda. The article is basically saying that the Wii U Zelda could be the Wii U's "MGS4 Moment", where sales finally do start to catapult forward. That's not the same thing as saying it will match or outright beat the PS3's sales, but that it will at least get the platform out of the financial pit it's digging itself into, and back into being a system that Nintendo can happily say they made substantial profit from, even if it comes out in third place at the end of this generational cycle. That's all the article is getting at. Too many people in here are getting their hackles raised at any sort of comparison between the two consoles. Calm yourselves, ladies and gents. This isn't a flame bait article unless you guys make it out to be one. *really wishes more people would fully read an article before jumping on the hate train*
This is N4G where fanboys just reading the title and comment without having read the article.
I waited for MGS4 to come out before I bought my PS3. I get it!
nope the PS3 had a bigger HD, Ethernet, and 3rd party support. Not to mention... people didn't call the PS3 a last gen console while they called the 360 a next gen console. They were calling the Wii a last gen console... like now with the Wii U
The only way Nintendo can turn the tides around now is by doing two things, and timing them well. 1 Push a lot of great games of their own on the console that people want. Something more than Mario, let first parties do some creative stuff like Sony. 2 ADVERTISE the hell out of it. Make it "hip" and target older people and families. Without a buttload of advertising and brainwashing ads (like Apple) they will never get out of this. People are brushing it off, they need to change that thought process. Make it "cool" to own one.
Yes and yes. To add to that, they should also try expanding their teams to get more projects running at once, and try putting Pro controllers into all bundles, ALONGSIDE the Game Pad, to increase the value of the bundles by enabling local multiplayer right out of the box.
wii u is the new gamecube in 2002/03