GearNuke: "Take a look at this screenshot comparison between Tomb Raider on the PC, PS3 and PS4."
Definitive Edition looks better. Clearly. I'm sure if they wanted to, PC could get the same treatment also of course, but as it stands now, looks like the best version will be on PS4. And to me it's worth the price tag, because I've never played this game before. Glad I waited
What annoys me is that whenever something looks near or on par with PC, their fanboys get insane that a $400-$500 machine looks as good as their $1500 rig and continue to call console gamers peasants and all that. PC fanboys don't realise how insecure they are. And yes I do own this game in PC. Just can't stand its fanboys.
I like how they have been claiming they have had next Gen for the last 3 years.
It is more like console only players are insecure. To a PC gamer cost to the machine is NOT so much of a concern because a PC is NOT just a gaming machine. Yes you can build a PC gaming machine around gaming, but I can assure you a lot of money is put into it not just focuses on gaming. Not only that games cost much cheaper than console games. And this is where your wrong a $1500 dollar machine destroys an 400>500$ console. Do you research before throwing these numbers. In terms of tomb raider specifically the game is classified as OLD and quite honestly the graphics jump do not justify the 50$ extra markup. This is a cash grab scenario simple as that. Just look at recent metal gear solid that release on PC, I am sure the developers knew that PC crowd will not pay full 50$ price for the game..... hence the reason why we saw the game on sale for 18$ on prelaunch! I play on both consoles and PC and quite honestly when it comes to consoles I always feel the need to wait for the next up coming gaming after finishing a game. PC gaming not so much cuz I have a huge back log of games from those steam sales. Had tomb raider been a console exclusive remake even at 45 dollars it would be hard to swallow IMO. The price for exclusive remakes should be at 35>40$. And guess what this is not a console exclusive!
everything you said doesnt make sense, and take a good look on this site. its a common thing for ps fanboys to be insecure thats maybe why yall throw the word out there as much as they do. but you cant stand the fanboys @alethian it was posted many time they got the pics mixed up for the first pic. the screen shot your impressed with is the pc vers. and AA isnt enabled on pc. dont know what you mean about the lighting, the shadows and textures dont look impressive in the ps4 screenshots. but people should wait to the games finish to judge dont really see why people so hyped up about this.
@webeblazing The pics weren't mixed up. The idea that they were has been rebutted below in comments. The original neogaf post is clear as to which is which. The same issue is raised in comments at the link. The pics marked PS4 ARE PS4 screen-grabs. And regarding the first pic, that the pic marked "PS4" is the PS4 shot is clear from her face. Beyond that, there's really nothing more I can say if anyone insists that the PC pics are better than the PS4 pics. The evidence is right there. Maybe if you bump up resolution and AA or whatever on the PC it'll come out better. If so, I really don't care - I can't see that at the link, and I'm not willing to fork over the cash for that sort of gaming PC.
@ Rageanitus Well said, and I agree completely.
lol if you really believe that then I feel sorry for you .... PC version still cr*p* all over the PS4 version at a higher constant frame rate and resolution and dont even get me started on the aliasing P.S. $1500???? Lmao you clearly don't know what you are talking about....
It's not the pc guys or the xbox guys running into every topic of every system trolling, its the PS fanboys that do that. And destroy others with disagrees if anyone says anything against PS. Its a playstation site and you can tell by the disagrees anyone other than a PS fanboy gets. You should have to declare your system on this site and the other fanboys are locked out of your area.
This is the exact reason why when I was contemplating building a gaming PC last week over buying a PS4 I said, "F*ck it." If I can't even game on my MacBook without running in to some asshole from the PC gaming community. Why on earth would I want spend money on something where I'd be harassed daily by a toxic community." This is solely the reason why I don't game on PC aside from playing Minecraft, ARMA or L4D2. For the naysayers who'll just straight-up give me disagrees, take your fan-boy goggles of and really look around you. It's disgusting. *Edit: See what I mean? Look at these comments. Nothing but @$$holes, say one thing and doesn't make an inanimate object seem G-d like and they start frothing at the mouth. Just another case of "My choice of entertainment is better than your choice of entertainment. Even though we're looking/doing the same thing."
@Sweendog, the PC version was held back by consoles Also, expect to see the true definitive edition on PC next
Honestly, I can't believe how good this looks on PS4. I was planning to get it anyway, but this confirmed my choice. Far superior to the PC version. Just a few highlights: lighting, foliage, hair, water mapping, face, depth perception, clarity, richness of environment.
Far superior? lol you don't know what you're talking about, It looks good maybe even a bit better than the pc version but definitely not "far superior".
@combatcash I cited specific areas that I saw improvement, that warranted my claim. You cited nothing. Anyone looking at these pictures can see that the improvement is more than a simple retexture and change of face. Foliage is thicker. Trees and rocks are more complex. Lighting is improved. Etc etc. I listed them above. This game has undergone a significant change.
It wont be worth the price tag after you play it. It's a nice game but not worth the $60.00 they are asking for.
I agree it's worth something just not the $60. I will pick it up in about 5 or 6 months during the gaming lull.
Really? If you never played it before, a brand new and beautiful tomb raider isn't worth that to you?
This is a $9 Amazon download on PC, so feel free to pay $60 for some graphics upgrades and DLC for a mediocre multiplayer. And YES i'm a PS4 owner.
I am a PS4 owner owner also! Part of me feels I got into it too early, and tomb raider is NOT a system seller given we already played the game last year. This is a cash grab scenario, I just feel the developers are taking advantage of the scenario because the new consoles are really starving for games. My console is only a netflix player now... and sorry KZ felt medicore, and COD was OK. The rest of the games are multiplatform or myeh.
It does look better, but I hate how they changed Lara's face. It looked much more natural before, now it's like..anime or something. I don't know, that's the only real drawback I see of the Definitive Edition.
The enviroments look way better in old PC build. Look at the tree Lara is holding. Only thing that looks better in DE is normal maps on her skin. It's a trade off, not an upgrade. Last picture with zoom on face is unfair comparison where at pc version she was currently out of focus thanks to depth of field. Also check out the picture when guy is hanging in high res. Hair look way better in PC version and also despite ps4 version being 1080p, pc version somehow look way sharper (tree better in ps4 ver tho). See pics in high res. Can't believe people don't see this. It is disappointing. I'm more of a console gamer but did play this on my PC in 1080p and maxed out and had over 70 fps at all times. My PC is not that new even (3 years old)
Nope. Ps4 looks better all around. Stop making up stuff. Just let it marinate that ps4 produces better graphics than your pc :)
@NeoTribe Not sure if you noticed but I said I'm more of a console gamer. I'm a 3d/2d artist and I spend 10 hours a day by PC at work. After that, I'd rather sit on a couch and play on a console with my wife.
ps4 all day
Wow ps4 looks much better. I never thought the difference was gonna be this big.
Same. I didn't think the PS4 would have such an improvement over the PC.
I imagine that on a TV in front of your visual balls it will look even better than these screens show. Much like AC4 on next gen isn't done justice in screenshots.
That seems to be a new trend. Screen shots and YouTube videos are not good enough to show off what you'll actually be playing with next gen games.
Exactly, AC4 really blew me away. The screens and videos I saw do not do it justice at all. It is stunning and the difference between current and next gen is very large. No more mangled LoD.
Youtube is the biggest culprit. When a trailer comes out for a game, try to find a file to download directly. Sure you can't watch it till it completely downloads, but it looks much better than streaming it.
I just got AC4 on PS4 and was wowed as well. I put it to the test on Remote Play on Vita, and was double stunned. Even though I've played through half of TR on a 360, I'd like the PS4 version, if nothing else, to use with Remote Play LMAO. Great for bedtime while the wife is playing Candy Crush.
I'm sorry, but my pc version is not blurry as those pics. Wow talk about "picking your screenshots". edit: Now in the first pick you can still see the individual hairs on the pc version but that third picture is like WOW.
Some of those screenshots are incorrectly marked as 'PS4' in that article anyway, where they are actually the PC 'definitive edition'. http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
There is no 'Definitive Edition' on PC. What are you talking about?
i see so every first screenshot is pc. its crazy that he didnt put SSAA on but that would be over kill, and dof is definitely show more on pc too. pc is still the better version which is expected, and really not a big deal. well it looks like a great port. i dont think they should still charge $60 for it though.
I agree. I can't notice the Tress FX on the hair in more that half the shots and its damn blurry with low lighting quality.
Tress FX is nice but doesn't really add much to the game. If they removed it from the ps4 version the game could be locked at 60 fps.
I REALLY don't like what they did to her face, but everything else does look better on the PS4 version.
Same here. They completely ruined her facial expressions. They should have saved themselves a lot of trouble and just upped the texture resolutions and framerate. That's what the PC version is, and it looks the best of the bunch.
Respect your opinion, but for my part I like the new face. I didn't like Lara's original face and think this is a significant improvement. Not that I thought there was anything WRONG with her original face per se - it's a matter of attractiveness. The new face looks more mature and closer to the concept art.
What is this the greateast game of all time???? Youd sure think so after 540 articles showing and debating the graphical improvements of the two version. Wowie kazam kablam enough already. Holy sh*t the hot chick is even hotter! Holy satan! Congrats on making a pretty good Tomb Raider, even though you basically ripped off the better Uncharted series instead of making something new. At least a respectable series like FF wouldnt ever do something like this... Oh wait Arent videogames just splended.
1) Are you aware the Uncharted followed in the footsteps of the Tomb Raider series? That it was Tomb Raider that blazed the path of 3rd person action adventure in the 90s? Tomb Raider ripped off...Tomb Raider! 2) There's a reason this game gets so much attention: It's a benchmark for testing the capacities of nextgen. It's the first update from lastgen that's had a complete overhaul. ACIV etc didn't experience the kind of porting this has undergone.
its only a matter of time before someone rip the textures and meshes out of this game and makes it usable for the PC users. tho the contrasts on the lighting looks alittle better. kinda feel her new eyes are weird tho...
Her new eyes are much better, she looks like she has cataracts on the P.C..
the pc version isn't as blurry as one of those shots makes it appear. i can run this game at maximum detail @1080p / 4xaa with a frame rate staying around 60fps (vsynced) most of the time. i can defintely say the ps4 version looks much better. hopefully, the framerate will hold up as well on ps4 as well as my rig. i will find out next week. :)
I still prefer her old face.
New Lara looks like a doll, her eyes are not life like at all. I will stick with my PC version thanks. Which imo still looks best
Maybe her face, but with new physics and particle systems etc, definitive edition all the way
Agreed. I was going to get this for my PS4, even though I have it for the PS3. But after seeing what they've done to her face...no thanks. The PC version IS the definitive version, in my book.
The PS4 is the best looking version. Still 60 dollars is a high price to pay.
You have to pay $1 per frame.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum... PC got more details in the textures, shadows are better, higher resolution supported and it's 50$ cheaper stop saying the ps4 look better it's not true. look at real screenshots
PS4 does look better. I'm sorry, you'll just have to live with it.
Doh, shot yourself in the foot there kingduqc, the new textures have 4x the resolution of the pc version (fact).
@KonsoruMasuta No we dont this is pc not console your confused. In coming soon 4k resolution ultra textures mod for PC.
For a person who is a Sony lover of past years and fell for Samsung and LG, Sony have impressed me enough to warrant a return in my home and life. I have the ps4 over xbox and I have no regrets for the switch. Now to change my TV back to Sony and complete the he cycle. The graphics looks great but the current prices of this new gen games are not resonating over here ;-(
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some of those screenshots in the article marked 'PS4' are actually posted as 'PC' in the referenced GAF thread. I see them posted as a comparison between the original 2013 PC edition and the new PC 'Definitive Edition'. "The first shots are my PC TR grabs and the second are Wonko_C's Definitive Edition stream video grabs" "Just to be clear, Wonko_C said he/she could only run his/her PC at max DX9/10" http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
There is no Definitive Edition on PC. The guy who is linked in the article is the one who took the PS4 screens posted by Wonko_C, who compared it these PS4 screens to PC version running DirectX 9/10. He then took his own screens at DirectX 11 settings and took the same shots for comparison purpose with PS4 version.
sorry but that pc is running 1080p come back when it run on a real rig at 2560 x [email protected] then see what looks better
Shut up. Most HDTVs are only 1080p so that would be a huge waste to make a PS4 game at that resolution.
thanks you have just proved my point , why compare it then??
chizzy201: There are things that are different in the next-gen versions that aren't even in the PC version on the highest setting. So there IS a reason to compare them, but as for the resolution, it's not as important as people make it out to be. What I want is better lighting and physics... the resolution doesn't matter as much to me. Heck, I think GTA V looks fantastic at 720p. Would it look great at 1080p? Of course, but 720p doesn't look BAD.
i agree, i played the game at 1660p @ 60hz and it shits on the visuals of the "definitive" version.
PC version can use mods so there's nothing really in the PS4 version that won't be added to the PC in time. http://www.tombraiderforums... There isn't a TR game on this forum that hasn't been modded.
Just sent BF4 back to GameFly, I hope they send this next week.
Here she looks exhausted: http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c... Here she looks dull: http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c... What's up with her eyes?
I actually like the new Laura re-design better but I agree. That's not a very flattering screen comparison.
It is better in movement to be honest. Even though I still prefer the old model. It is a matter of preference at the end. I'm more for girly than for badass. Lara used to be a badass one, but the reboot, including the voice acting intended to show her more defenceless.
yeah you gotta be blind to say the ps4 vers looks better. plus i doubt SSAA or downsampling is on. yeah but it still looks good. it should be expected though.
There are some extra features on PS4, but overall it is even unfair to compare the PC master race vs a console. The fact that it is up to a discussion is already a win for console owners. My optimistic view at least. However, the face... why? When she is not looking dull because the eyes, she is a female version of John Rambo (ok, I'm exaggerating). She was cute, younger, with a paler skin and with freaking sexy pair of narrow/"cat eyes"... oh well, I will try to make this my last comment on the subject.
This is all horse shit. I played the game on PC at max settings at 1600p and it looked incredibl