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Pachter: “There Is No Future” For PS Vita And Sony’s Handheld Market

GR: With the ongoing success of smart devices and Nintendo's clear dominance is the dedicated gaming handheld space, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter doesn't see a future for Sony in the portable games market.

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Neonridr915d ago

wow... I only thought he had a hard-on for Anti-Nintendo stuff..

Hatsune-Miku915d ago

Sony needs to flood vita with a lot more quality games.

bothebo915d ago

Lol there's no getting around it at this point. They need to bring some very compelling software if they want the Vita to go anywhere at this point. The thing is practically dead, but as a Vita owner i'd like to think that it has something coming its way in the future. Also, indies are not going to cut it at this point.

acharlez915d ago

It's a high powered machine that can offer AAA experiences on the go.

Sadly, the mass market consumer doesn't really want that...

Snookies12915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

It's got a lot of games... They're just exclusive to Japan lol.

Luckily we're getting a few coming this way. Demon Gaze, Danganronpa, Toukiden, Monster Monpiece, Disgaea 4 Return, Conception 2, Deception 4, and we just got Ys Celceta recently.

Baccra17915d ago

True, but Vita shouldn't pigeonhole itself as a handheld. It's an adaptable piece of tech that also needs to take advantage of Playstation Now.

It really needs to be what the Wii U was trying to be before Nintendo went the cheap miserly route, and that is a hybrid system that is both a home console and on the go gaming platform. Use the PS4 and Playstation Now to it's fullest potential and drop the ridiculous prices on the memory cards and Sony can turn the Vita around.

Enate915d ago

RPGs psp shot up after Crisis Core and the 3DS is constantly praised for mainly its rpgs. An one of the most talked about vita releases period is Persona 4 Golden. Bring good rpgs an the rest will fall in to place they work really well on handhelds. FF Agito should of been ported to vita and released in the states ages ago.

SilentNegotiator915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

Sony allowed Vita to be flooded with crap, from a mediocre Resistance to a crappy RE to a crappy COD; they had no strong plans for it launching with a lot of great software. Sony gave it proprietary memory cards that cost an insane amount, making DDs on less viable. Sony decided to make it strong (and thus expensive) when handheld gamers have always been content with cheap, weaker devices (all the more relevant in a time where cell phones are quenching many casual gamers thirst for mobile entertainment).

It has been 2 years, potentially more than a 1/3 of its lifetime (the time until it's succeeded). If it hasn't perked up yet, it doing so later won't likely do it a lot of good with the time it has left.

Sony doomed Vita to mediocre sales. That's right, I used the forbidden "D word" and I mean it. Nothing short of a miracle or an entire mess of cash being injected into it would save it from mediocre sales.

ABizzel1915d ago

@Hatsune-Miku

Exactly. There are a solid amount of good games on Vita, but there aren't any AAA franchises on it, and that have name and brand recognition. Until those games come Vita will be a niche device that only PS gamers enjoy.

What's sad is that, they're missing out on a bunch of good games, and worse all the free stuff from PS+.

My 32GB memory card is already full from PS+, and I have a feeling when I get my 64GB it's going to be full as well instantly since i have about 10 PS Vita games currently sitting on my PS3 HDD.

I think they're next handheld device, needs to simply be a PlayStation themed tablet. It might not be "handheld portable", but it just makes more sense and functions better as a multipurpose device.

Mobile Technology is finally to the point where real console gaming can be done on devices like tablets (Vita is close, but still not quite there, but Tegra 5 is), so a PlayStation tablet with dedicated controls, built with the PS4 / PS5 in mind seems like the logical way to go.

7" - 10" OLED screen
1+ TFLOP (Tegra 5 is almost 400 GFLOPS, Tegra 6 should be almost 2x)
4 GB DDR4 / GDDR5 / eSRAM / GDDR6
32GB internal Memory

$299 (2018 release date)

BX81915d ago

Agreed. It's a great piece of hardware just needs more games. It kinda seems like the vita is being presented more as a second screen for the ps4 at this point. Last I saw borderlands was coming out for it so that should give it a boost as far as being in the hands of gamers for a large amount of time.

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Beetey915d ago

Nope. He will trash anything if people are willing to listen. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, there are still people who listen to him.

Anon1974915d ago

Reminds me of how we were constantly reminded for years that the PSP was doomed. DOOOMED!

SilentNegotiator915d ago

http://www.webcitation.org/...

2 years in, PSP was at 25 million. Anyone using the word "doom" for PSP at that point in its lifetime must have been high. There were plenty of negative articles LATER in its lifetime, but that's because it was dropping in sales at a fast rate.

Vita is a whole different story entirely.

Anon1974915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

But they were saying it was doomed, weren't they. We endured years of articles regarding the PSP's demise, what Sony could do to "save" the PSP, analyzing what went wrong with the PSP, etc.

You're right. It is a completely different story. This isn't 2006 anymore. Mobile game sales dwarf sales for dedicated handhelds. This isn't the same market. I'm not for a second claiming the PS Vita isn't struggling, but I'm saying we've heard this type of doomsaying time and time again. After over a decade of listening to these type of "Doom" stories, they've simply lost their impact and any credibility they may have once had.

So Pachter admittedly doesn't "get it" when it comes to the PS Vita's appeal. He thinks all the casuals have moved to mobile, but since when was the casual market the PS Vita's target, or the PSP? This is coming from the guy that also admitted he didn't "get" why WWII games were popular.

Personally, as the article mentioned, I have a tonne of games on my Vita and the combination of the Vita and PSN+ is simply an amazing value. I don't care if the Vita is pulled from the shelf tomorrow, I'm quite happy I'm a Vita owner. I'm just saying I take all these types of predictions with a grain of salt. So should you.

3-4-5915d ago

He is anti everything as long as it makes him money.

ritsuka666915d ago

I don't think the Vita will reach even 15mil LTD.well,serves you rights for Sony arrogance.

bryam1982915d ago

yeah yeah patcher whatever you say

send from my ps vita

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Concertoine915d ago

I hope the vita does okay lifetime. I wouldnt want sony to try and mimic nintendo's direction with handhelds because the dichotomy between the vita and 3ds is what makes them both must owns.

acharlez915d ago

At least those who have purchased the console have been quite satisfied.

We probably won't see a successor, though. Sony will likely just push smartphones after the Vita is dead.

Rainstorm81915d ago

especially with Vita TV and PSNOW

Inception915d ago

Yup, i'm really satisfied with my vita. Can't wait for Gravity Rush 2, Freedom Wars, DanganRonpa, SS Delta, Toukiden, Trails in the Sky: 2nd chap, and many more.

Fluke_Skywalker915d ago

I love my Vita, but I'd have a hard time recommending one to anyone else. It's a great bit of kit but it just doesn't have mass market appeal, most folks are happy with their smartphone and tablet games if they want portable gaming, and I think that is just what the future of hand held gaming will be. Especially now that we are seeing official controllers for iOS devices.

Unlimax915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

Totally ~
Have you seen Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth Screenshots for the Vita ?
http://storage.siliconera.c...
http://storage.siliconera.c...
Oh My ... ❤

Inception915d ago

Digimon series isn't my cup of tea. But a lot of my friends got nuts when they saw Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth. They will buy Vita once this game got out. I always thought that Digimon had the potential to match Pokemon series. To bad sony/namdai doesn't maximize that potential.

Mikelarry915d ago

i really cant put my finger on it but I cant think of what is making the vita not sell like hot cakes

it has power, sexy design and GAMES.

i own a vita (first gen) but i hardly ever use it, although i am looking forward to gravity rush two

Concertoine915d ago

I think its because a lot of the software isnt designed with portability in mind, more of a console experience on the go. Like the wipeout on vita look great but it has like 45 sec-1 minute loading screens that pretty much kill any chance of playing it for a quick 5-10 minutes on the bus. Also stuff like uncharted and gravity rush are great games but theyre still not games designed to be played on the go.

klecser915d ago

It does not have games. In classic Sony fashion it has a very narrow set of game genres covered. I'd buy one if they made a game in a genre I like.

acharlez915d ago

What kind of game would get you to buy one?

Fluke_Skywalker915d ago

It has a huge spread of genres! My only issue with it's library is a distinct lack of AAA high quality titles.

incredibleMULK915d ago

I wish Sony would stop pushing handheld, all that chains of Olympus and kill zones and resistances could have been manpower spent on ps3 versions good ones...not crappy prequels. Or money used for a decent dualshick4 battery that lasts longer than 6 hours. Vita is the reason Sony is in financial crumbs and Nintendo is doing the same with their testicle less wiiu. Its just sad.. but funny.

I will say this killzone shadow fall rocks. Now imagine if they used that kill zone liberation development costs for more maps or voice chat which it is currently lacking.

Sony focus boy, focus. Are ya paying attention to what I'm trying to tell ya boy?

NYC_Gamer915d ago

There's no real support for the handheld and plus its now being marketed as an PS4 accessory

acharlez915d ago

Yep. Pretty much.

Think that will help its chances at all?

Concertoine915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

It has, vita sales have baselined higher since the ps4 released. Its a genius design, but theres still only a handful that want to drop another 200 bucks after spending 400 on a ps4. Whats annoying is sony has actually relegated a few of their handheld dedicated 2nd and 1st party studios into ps4 development. Like those guys making The Order used to made GoW psp games.

Rainstorm81915d ago

it actually might get more traction as a ps4 accessory down the road

incredibleMULK915d ago

During the Obama years...?.. uh,..no. $420 for ...console check,$190 for 3 decent games...check, $50 for PS+ membership...check...$300 hand held console with 5" screen and $30 shit games.....uh no,...I think I'll just buy a new Samsung galaxy.

Rainstorm81915d ago (Edited 915d ago )

i can find a Vita right now for 100-120$....shop smart... and i said down the road sheesh....the Galaxy cant do connectivity wise via remote play what the vita can with the PS4 hence an accessory.

Games? Between Remote playing PS4 games PS+ and PSNow and you should be good to go on the games front

But if you are looking for Plants vs Zombies ,Angry Birds , Subway Surf and Candy Crush, then yes that may not be for you. and a GS4 costs more than a PS4 if we are talking price...but the games sure are cheap

lilbroRx915d ago

Hasn't that already failed?

dbjj12088915d ago

I'm dying for more Vita games, third- or first-party. I don't care.

givemeshelter915d ago

It's such a fantastic piece of hardware, however it lacks compelling games and unfortunately for once in his life, Patcher is right in this regards.
It's a shame, however between lack of quality games for the Vita and the fast pace of mobile and tablet gaming growing at record speeds, there is no place left for the Vita.... :-(