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Submitted by DarkLordMalik 271d ago | rumor

Crystal Dynamics Were Aiming For 60 FPS On PS4/XB1, Failed To Meet The Target On Xbox One

GearNuke: "It has been recently revealed that Tomb Raider is running at an average of 30 fps on the Xbox One and an average of 60 fps on the PS4. This really shouldn't be taken as a surprise. According to an insider on popular gaming forums NeoGAF, Crystal Dynamics originally aimed to target 60 fps on both, the PS4 and Xbox One." (PS4, Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, Xbox One)

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Hatsune-Miku  +   271d ago | Well said
They failed to meet the target of 1080p @ 60fps on the xbox one because the xbox one isnt as powerful as the ps4 which is able to do 1080p @ 60fps. Fanat-X cant accept this nor can they accept that when given the choice of having a ps4 or xbox one a non-biased core gamer will choose ps4.

Why would someone choose an inferior product that costs more. Rational thinking core gamers will choose the best gaming system the ps4 unless a person wants something else for personal reasons like friends or family owning something else or will or because of certain likes. Fanat-X sees this site and a lot others as filled with sony fanboys because they are actually seeing rational thinking people who wants whats best so they have their conspiracy theories about sony fanboys everywhere. What kind of world would this be if people dont strive to get the best of most things?
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SquareSoft  +   271d ago
Great Game on PS4!
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mewhy32  +   271d ago
This is a pattern that we are beginning to see everywhere. The PS4 is just more capable and finally devs are beginning to realise that they should take full advantage of what each platform has to offer. this will ensure that BOTH platforms provide the maximum experience offered by the hardware instead of worrying about parity based on lowest common denominator abilities. Finally.
xHeavYx  +   271d ago
Like I said before, I'm glad developers are using as much potential as possible on the PS4 without restrains.
I would say TR is a must buy for people who haven't played it yet
AsimLeonheart  +   270d ago
So where are the people who were claiming that PS4's specs advantage wont matter because third party developers will aim for parity? The developers ARE using the PS4's potential and the PS4 is getting superior third party games.
Army_of_Darkness  +   270d ago
I'm totally getting this game again on the ps4 even though I got it free on ps plus. so really, I'm technically buying this game for the first time :-D
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PLASTICA-MAN  +   270d ago
Considering the Tress-FX which puts down most of the high end PCs, the extra added next-gen effects, lighting and physics, running at native 1920 x 1080 at 60 FPS it is a technical avhievements even for high-end machines ( you can bring your Alienware or Origin quad SLI Titan + 64 gigs of RAM which you can only see in your dreams or fairly tales, we are talking mainstream here, check Steam polls, most of users are stuck with GT 9800 which i used to have before my old HDD was fried). Devs who knew what they do weren't lying about the PS4 being high-end.
Ezz2013  +   270d ago
this is a good sign for ps4 owners
that means ps4 will not get any shortcuts because parity

this gen is indeed much better than the last gen in term of hardware
now bring the gems like you did with ps3 like TLOU
sony
we need new IP's and games like GOW,TLOU,UC,LBP etc
Wizard_King  +   270d ago
Plastica man, you are on drugs, a single gtx 670 runs this game maxed at 1080 at over 60fps...

Anyone with quad titans would max this this game at 4k 60fps

The ps4 is good and this is an a achievement for consoles but it doesn't make it high end. Tomb raided simply isn't a very taxing game, even with TressFX with is basically a tessilation technique made more efficent for consoles hardware
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Withdreday  +   270d ago
The Console War is Over!
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senis_kenis  +   270d ago
@Wizard_King no it does not, on GTX 670 it run at 50fps average with dips to 26fps with TressFX off:
http://kotaku.com/5990848/t...
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PLASTICA-MAN  +   270d ago
At senis-kenis thank you for your answer. I have a GTX 660 and my cousin GTX 760 and FPS considerably get a hit with Tress FX, let alone upping the res or adding extra effects. Thank you also for answering someone normally I don't reply to because they just throw bad words without proofs.
wtopez  +   270d ago
@senis kenis

I took a look at your link and what you say is not wrong. However what the Kotaku benchmarks show is crazy. I haven't played TR in a while but it was still installed so I decided to use the benchmark tool included in the game. Settings is Ultra at 1080p with Tress FX off (Does not play well with Nvidia)

MSI 660 ti
i5 3570k
16 GB DDR3

Min Framerate 70
Max Framerate 104
Avg Framerate 86

What Wizard King says is right. A 670 is considerably more powerful than a 660 ti so it would definitively perform WAY better than what the Kotaku benchmark shows, which I suspect was done pre-patch which had TR crashing a lot on Nvidia hardware.
Kleptic  +   270d ago
Plastica-man...you're obviously moving the goal posts to make a point...

the PS4 is high end, as you say, compared to the 'average steam user stuck with a 9800GT'???...ok...but what does that have to do with anything?

not sure why this is still a thing...the consoles are far weaker than available PC parts...but the consoles are far cheaper than said PC parts...so buy what you want?...and yeah, developers have always been great at squeezing consoles, and not as great at squeezing PCs...so low and behold there is a decision to make when it comes to this hobby...buy expensive PC stuff, get some run off games that can not be done on a console, but then also be stuck with mediocre ports of multiplats and nearly no true exclusive content...or get a console...get exclusives...get decent enough versions of multiplats to not really care...and never worry about upgrades or if you can run a certain game...

but deciding to buy one platform, then mixing and matching bits of information to justify your own purchasing decision is laughable...
PLASTICA-MAN  +   269d ago
Kleptic..."but deciding to buy one platform, then mixing and matching bits of information to justify your own purchasing decision is laughable..."

I don't have a PS4 and I am mostly a PC gamer ;) . I think you llove laughing fir nothing.

OT: I think the PS4 is following the PS2 steps: no alien parts, easy to develop for, getting all devs interest and getting every game released on any platform whther indie, new, old or revamped like this Tomb Raider.
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Lior  +   271d ago
We all know the xbox one is not as powerful as ps4 stop these stupid debates
lokirevamped  +   271d ago
I guess a person needs to put down the other console maker to warrant/honor their purchase/money. I am enjoying both consoles, I don't have a bunch of time to play them but still I enjoy them when I can. I will also enjoy the Steam OS Machine by Alienware when it is released.
ABizzel1  +   270d ago
@Lori & Lokirevamped

I don't think anyone's trying to put XB owners down. It's just the HUGE wave a denial pre-launch and even after launch that the PS4 was more powerful than the XBO simply needed to be put to rest, and games (multiplatforms) have finally been showing it and more often since COD and BF4 weren't enough and the blame was on eSRAM. Yes eSRAM is part of the problem because there's only 32MB trying to aid 8GB of DDR3 which isn't going to help, but there's also the problem that the GPU itself is a tier down from the PS4's GPU.

And I agree with @Miku it makes no sense to buy an XBO now (PS4 either really), just wait for a price drop, because the games aren't there, and in the case of the XBO the hardware doesn't justify the price.

@lokirevamped

I would advise against the Alienware Steam Machine. While it's design is the best IMO, it's hardware will more than likely under-deliever. It's non-upgradable which mean it's likely using a one of NVIDIA's mobile GPU's like it's X51's (more than likely the 645m). You're better off with the other two $500 Steam Machines if that's the case, or waiting since Alienware is releasing a new Steam Machine every year.
Death  +   270d ago
@Abizzel,

I would hardly think 60 days is enough time to see either consoles full potential. It took years for the PS3 to catch up to the Xbox 360. We all knew the eSram was going to be an issue early on.

First we were told the Xbox One could only do 720p. Now that releases are coming in at 1080p, PS4 fans are saying it can't do 1080p @60fps. I guess we will have to wait and see. What is the point of PS4 gamers hammering away with having more power anyway? Does it make Knack or Killzone better games knowing the PS4 has more power? How many duplicate stories are really needed at the top of N4G to get the point across?
ITPython  +   270d ago
I'm not sure we all know, apparently people are still buying a couple XB1's here and there.

This kind of info needs to be pounded into the consumers heads, especially since MS knows no bounds when trying to trick the uneducated console buyers with all their slick advertising, bribes, and other low-life schemes to make the XB1 seem like the king of next-gen. Speak a lie enough times, and it becomes truth.

If more people buy XB1's than PS4's, then all PS4 gamers will suffer since devs will focus on the best selling console, which if that is the XB1 the PS4 will be stuck with 720p @30fps on all multiplatform games. But if the PS4 stays the lead, then both consoles will get the best versions they are capable of handling.
Neonridr  +   271d ago
If a gamer prefers the MS exclusives, then there's an obvious reason why they would choose the XB1 over the PS4.

I don't deny that the PS4 is more powerful, as it definitely is (I own one).
medman  +   270d ago
What exclusives? As the owner of a ps3, 360, and ps4, Sony has kept me happy with exclusives throughout the console cycle for ps3 while Microsoft completely fell off the map the last few years for the 360. Sorry, there is no exclusive battle between the two. There is no comparison. I have yet to see one game exclusive for the xbone that would make me want to fork over 500 bucks to microsoft. Titanfall isn't my cup of tea, I'm primarily a single player gamer. Quantum Break looks like it could be interesting, but will it be? Who knows. I certainly don't. When I look at Sony's roster of first party developers, I know what I'm going to get because it's what I've gotten for many years now. GOTY contender after GOTY contender, year in, year out. When was the last time a Microsoft owned studio produced a GOTY winner? Case closed.
Neonridr  +   270d ago
That's your opinion medman, but there are plenty of people that are excited for Titanfall. I loved Alan Wake, so anything Remedy puts out is something that will definitely interest me. Halo sells ridiculously well, regardless if you like it or not.

Just because a game isn't a GOTY contender means it's not any good now? Wow, suddenly our standards went through the roof.

As I said above, if you are someone who likes MS exclusives (Forza, Halo, GoW, etc, etc) then go with the XB1. If you are one who likes Sony exclusives (Uncharted, TLOU, God of War, Gran Turismo, etc, etc) then you go with Sony.

I love how suddenly your opinion is the only one that matters and because you don't enjoy the MS games means suddenly they don't matter.

Case not closed, not even close buddy.

I don't even own an XB1 by the way.
MRMagoo123  +   270d ago
You dont need an xbone for titanfall tho all you need is a low spec pc or a 360.
jmac53  +   270d ago
Well I know how MS is, as a 360 owner from the start there was exclusive after exclusive. It was the system to own and then they shifted all their attention to Kinect and the exclusives dried up. Enjoy the exclusives for the next couple of years before MS tries to convince you to buy a gimmick.
kopicha  +   270d ago
@medman

let's be straight here. every platforms have their own exclusives regardless of the quantity of it. So MS do have their own exclusives like Halo, Gears, Forza and a couple more. If someone prefer those over what Sony has to offer in terms of their exclusive. There is absolutely nothing wrong about it. So to say if you prefer what Sony is offering from their camp over what MS does with Xbox it is fine too. Taste to games is a subjective matter without right or wrong. I have no issues with Xbox fans that prefer their exclusives over what's available on PS.

From previous gen since I own both 360 and PS3, I personally do not adore Xbox exclusive as much. Personally I take Uncharted, TLOU, GOW, GT over Xbox's offering of Fable, Halo, GEOW, Forza. But end of the day point is they do have their own exclusives. Just that I dont personally enjoy them as much as what the fans hype over them. But does not mean they are bad games.

Only time I cannot stand the Xbox fans is the time when they attempt to make things up to make their games look better when the fact is its not. This is extremely apparently especially in this new gen. Similar things already happening during last gen. They tend to have slightly more superior version of the 3rd party games most of time. In terms of better Resolution/fps and etcs. Althou not all the time but usually that is the case. And they love to brag about it and call out PS3 being a junk internet bluray player. While now in this new gen where it is a complete reversal at least from launch up till this point of time, PS tend to have more superior version of the game. They would remain in completely denial to the point of even attempt to twist the fact as far as making claims like 720 is better than 1080. That is when I find they are completely out of touch with reality. It is fine to be a fan of a platform. But to that extremely of trying to protect your beloved platform like trying to protect a religion? Then I think that's when the person really need some help with his life.
JohnnyTower  +   271d ago
Hey miku, where is your signature "ps4 is the future and the future is ps4"? I almost didn't recognize you without it.
Tatsuya  +   270d ago
lol, you butthurt boy?

We from the PlayStation nation are laughing our ass off at you pissy xbots. Served you right for terrorising us back in last gen. Now, that the tides have changed :), Greatness Awaits for all PS4 lovers and SONY in general.

PS4 is the King of Consoles, In SONY we TRUST
Immorals  +   271d ago
I'm going to buy an xbox one, not a ps4 for a few reasons.

I've owned a 360 and an xbox, and I want my account to carry over. All my friends are getting xb1's.

I don't like the ds4 (sticks give me cramps), I prefer the xb1 exclusives too. I also use media as much as I play games, and the xbox is just far better at this (especially when externals are FINALLY supported..).

If I wanted a games console that is designed purely for games, I'd get a pc.
beerzombie  +   271d ago
And most Sony fans are acting like jerks and would not want to associate with them.
beerzombie  +   271d ago
And most Sony fans act like jerks and would not want to associate with them.
GrizzliS1987  +   271d ago
let me get this straight, you would buy a pc to play just games when all xbone games are on pc and somehow you find xbone and pc combo to be better than ps4 and pc?

yea whatever dude, tell me all about how you use media on your xbone, cus one thing i know youre not doing on it is play quality games
windblowsagain  +   271d ago
Hmm.

Media? Live tv.

If you prefer xb1 for it's games. it's all good.

But not quite sure how DS4 can give you cramps if you don't own one.

Yep i smell bs.

@your replay below.

PS4 isn't inferior to a PC, most people game on PC'S that are much less powerful.

But some have more powerful PC'S.

But i can tell you this.

There is no game on PC that will look 10% better then PS4 until a mighty upgrade in graphic cards comes.

ATM DX11/GL etc is just the same as on PS4/XB1.

Only advantage is higher rez, aa.

Textures differences are gone.
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Immorals  +   271d ago
I'm sick to death of these Sony fanboys who just down vote anytime someone says anything negative to Sony, or positive about xbox.. It's pathetic.

And Grizzli, all the hate on xb1 atm is over multiplats, where the ps4, being more powerful, is a small amount shinier.. But, being multiplat, the PC version is far better.

I'm not a fan of Sony exclusives, and the xb1 is raining exclusives atm, so yes. I'd rather have and xbox 1

Windblows;
Netflix, BBC iplayer (eventually), wirelessly streaming videos from my tablet.

And what your saying negates all arguments. If your saying the difference between ps4 and Pc is res and aa, and that's not a big deal, then nor is the difference between xb1 and ps4.

And you don't have to own something to experience it, I've played on one, and having larger hands, it has the same problem as the ds3/ds2, sticks in wrong place
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infectedaztec  +   270d ago
Good choice. The best games are on the xbox one in 2014. If I had a PS4 I'd only buy multiplats as their flagship for the year (infamous) doesn't do it for me.
Titanfall, Quantum Break, Halo, the witcher, fifa 15 and maybe Destiny will be the games I'll buy this year.

If I had a PS4 it'd be the witcher, destiny, watchdogs and fifa (and maybe the order) this year.

There are games I'd have over watchdogs but these are only available on xbox. Like I'd be buying it if I was starved for choice (nothing watchdogs and infamous arent my kind of game).

I literally have money aside for a ps4, but I dont see any reason to get it yet. Naughty Dog might change that
thejigisup  +   270d ago
if you wanted a game console that is designed purely for games, you'd get a game console.

"Netflix, BBC iplayer (eventually), wirelessly streaming videos from my tablet."

Netflix is great on the ps4 is sleek, smooth and totally functional. BBC iplayer is on ps4, wirelessly streaming videos from tablet. I've been doing that since I got my tv no need for a ps3 or ps4 or xb1; from my phone and from my tablets. My tv streams live tv already. what media capabilities are you getting with your xb1 that aren't already taken care of by previously existing, cheaper, fully functional tech?
JetsFool3500  +   270d ago
So I guess your right hand cramps up when you play xbox because the only difference is the left analog stick
clouds5  +   270d ago
wow there are still people making decisions based upon what they want and have actual reasons to buy a particular console! (no irony!)

Most people just buy stuff because they are brainwashed by marketing..
dodo101  +   270d ago
"I don't like the ds4 (sticks give me cramps)".
Did you even tried it?? DS4 is awesome!
Sorrry i just don't believe this.
medman  +   270d ago
You poor, misguided sheep. You should have stopped at "I'm going to buy an xbox one, not a ps4". That was enough, you don't need attempt to justify your decision because in doing so you only illuminate your insanity. Not a single point you made makes sense, so I'm not even going to bother to point out the error in your reasoning. Have fun paying more to get less. In your confused head more for less probably makes perfect sense. The rest of us will be playing the console with the roster of developers that churn out GOTY contender/winner after GOTY contender/winner that can achieve 1080p and 60fps without exploding. Enjoy your "next gen" tv enabler.
guyman  +   270d ago
I bet u didn't even try out the numerous ps3 games That are available. What you're saying is that you enjoyed halo and gears of war, the only 2 exclusives worth mentioning for xbox,over all the mulitple highly acclaimed ps3 games... Doesn't make sense to me, a person that's owned both systems
ABizzel1  +   270d ago
@Immorals

lol, but PC has all of that, and cost the same price as an XBO, but more powerful, has most of their exclusives, access to XBL, can accept pretty much any controller (lol at DualShock gives you cramps, stop it) and dominates both consoles when it comes to media. The only thing you're losing is the ability to play with you XBL friends online, because you can still sign-in to XBL on PC.

So while you're trying to troll, you're really doing nothing, but showing the XBO just isn't worth it yet, and it's mainly due to Kinect. If Kinect wasn't in there then the XBO could sell for a solid $379, and be worth the asking price.
ZeoN  +   270d ago
Poor taste
DigitalRaptor  +   270d ago
The reason you are getting disagrees and down votes is because people think (and rightly so) that you are buying a console based on its short-terms advantages.

PS4 is a better long-term investment if we're talking consoles here, and every level-headed gamer knows it. And believe it or not, we are gamers here - passionate about games. Why would we not disagree with your opinion?

Plus the BS you posted about DS4 gives you no credibility, so just stop.
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MRMagoo123  +   270d ago
LOL what a silly comment " I prefer the xb1 exclusives too. I also use media as much as I play games, and the xbox is just far better at this (especially when externals are FINALLY supported..)." if you use media as much as play games PC's are far better at media than the Xbone, and PC's are also better at games than the Xbone, therefore i conclude your point is invalid.
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JoseV76  +   270d ago
Man ain't that the truth, I got a ps4 before xb1 and the UI is terrible on ps4, I love the xb1 you can do so much more.!
Wizard_King  +   270d ago
Windsblowagain.

Bf4 looks more than 10% better on PC than on the ps4 not to mention higher resolutions like 2k which I game at and 4k.

The fact is PC games will always look better than consoles we are already moving past 1080 p 60fps to 144hz super HD games with extra high res textures on 2 and 4 k monitors and TVs. The only ones agreeing with you are like minded fanboys.

I love my ps4 and am getting MGS5 on it over my PC but I won't go on blabbing BS about how the PS4 can somehow beat high end PCs for graphic fidelity wihich it can't and doesn't.
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Withdreday  +   270d ago
@beerzombie

And how did Xbox fans act last gen?
jebabcock  +   270d ago
Buying a GAME console to not play games... Does anyone else see this logic as being a little off?
SonyKong64  +   270d ago
in other words, you'll support greed and anti consumer business practices so long as they fit into your selfish wants and needs lifestyle lol.. sad.
VINNIEPAZ  +   271d ago
"Running code on the PS4 by raw power alone would already be better than the Xbox and required a lot of optimisation."

Wow, Im not a programmer but that sounds pretty bad for Xbox.It sorta puts things into perspective. I played Xbox 360 for exclusives and 3rd party and my PS3 just for its exclusives. It looks like this next gen i'll be doing the reverse lol. So glad I get all the systems so I can pick what platform to get what game on.
n4rc  +   271d ago
Sony fanboys are rational thinking people?

How do you still have that bubble.. Lol
Unreal01  +   270d ago
You love a good troll at the moment. I guess this 60fps PS4 news isn't going down too well with you :/
n4rc  +   270d ago
Why would I care? I dont own one..

See.. That's the point you all miss.. I don't give a crap.. But you all seem obsessed with something you don't have or want..

That's not very rational now is it?
DragonKnight  +   270d ago
If you don't care then why are you here ragging on someone who does?
n4rc  +   270d ago
I said I don't care about what the ps4 has.. Doesn't mean I can't speak my mind in the Xbox, which I do have.

You dont see me trolling sony articles.
dantesparda  +   270d ago
Cuz he's a phony ass fanboy that's why
ZeoN  +   270d ago
You cared to comment. You sound hurt.
solidjun5  +   270d ago
"See.. That's the point you all miss.. I don't give a crap.. But you all seem obsessed with something you don't have or want.. "

That's a bit ironic considering your post indicates you do care. I don't think we're missing the point. You are.
Prime157  +   270d ago
<Sigh> I should have known, n4rc, so I'm just going to copy and paste your words (Cite: http://n4g.com/news/1442403... and then switch the ps4/xbox parts to the other

"Here's a quick tip for life.. What you think doesnt mean shit to anyone but yourself..

You like your " (xbox)"? I should hope so.. I enjoy my" (PS4) " But why can't you accept that?

I've been gaming since the late 80s.."(I have too) " Are you even that old? who the hell are you to decide what gamers should want?"

You may not troll Sony articles, but you definitely troll any article that paints the PS4 in a better picture than the X1.
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T2  +   270d ago
Well they are rational enough to smell an xb1 price cut that's for sure. Nothing in the xb1 package justifies a price of 499. I'll pick one up at 349 and nothing more
MysticStrummer  +   270d ago
Witcher 3 is supposedly maxing out the two consoles. That should mean that the two versions aren't identical, but we'll see.
mediate-this  +   270d ago
What if you can afford both? Im not biased towards either, i play games, so i bought both. But your talking about gaming and you only game on one system? As if that system offers all the games in the world. I game on wii u, ps4 and xbone, i dont have a sony statue i pray to, i play ganes. You should too. I always was geared towards more to sony when i was younger but now im chill and sit back , play games. No need to do free advertisements for a company.
dantesparda  +   270d ago
So you're offended by the fact that soon fanboys are pointing out the fact. But somehow you're not a fanboy? Yeah right, screw all you phony ass fanboys
headblackman  +   270d ago
let's be clear here! 30fps isn't a bad frame rate at all. especially for a game as this. now you might be justified in your comments if this was a first person high action shooter, but it's not! so either system you buy it for, you'll be happy with it. the fps wont make a difference in the purchase here. and lets be real for a min,this game isn't a top seller at all. it's an improvement of what it use to be, but by no means is it some kind of blockbuster. so if you've got an x1 and you feel that this is an interesting game to add to your collection then buy it and if you have a ps4 and you feel that this game will be a good addition to your game collection, then buy it. nuff siad!
vigilante_man  +   270d ago
Don't start with logic....
theXtReMe1  +   270d ago
I agree with you. It's why I switched from the Xbox 360 last generation to the PS4, this. I want the most powerful system that will play the best games, it also helps that Sony has one hell of a great first party lineup. I'm not biased by Corporation, I'm biased by great games and the best system to play them on. Ive owned systems from every hardware manufacturer in the history of gaming. Never once biased by whose name was on it. I just wanted to play great games. The best way to do that, is to have the most powerful system to play them on.
headblackman  +   269d ago
you was never an xbox gamer. you have always been a sony loyalist! you just wanted your story to sound like you was making a change to make some xbox fan wanna follow in your same lame ass foot steps. not gonna happen buddy. only a sony fan wants that damn console. xbox loyalist know exactly why we like the xbox brand regardless of what you assholes may think. piss off and enjoy your gaystation 4 and let those who wanna play the xb1 do just that.
lifeisgamesok  +   270d ago
I bought a xbox one for the good launch games and future games shown at E3, the controller, and xbox live

I don't care for the little differences multiplats will have
Gamer1982  +   270d ago
Its mental as they are saying it can run 1080p on the ps4 when its not even optimized its running 30fps @1080p however on xbox optimized! although it could probably be optimized more.. That just shows PS4s real power there from the words of a dev.
nutcase13  +   270d ago
because they may like the Xbox One and the games it offers, i personally own a PS4 but in no way is the Xbone an inferior product, not everyone has to like what you like...
jmc8888  +   270d ago
Of course it's an inferior product. It's a game console. It's primary purpose is for gaming. If someone bought one to stream Netflix....SMH.

The XB1 plays games at lower resolutions, with less graphical elements, at lower framerates, and costs more. Any to all of these can be in effect for each game side by side. Some might have one at a disadvantage. Some might have two. Some already have all three.

Meanwhile it costs $100 more.

That's inferior.

It has an asinine memory setup where the ESRAM will always be a bottleneck that not even tiled resources will fix. It's a small bandaid, nothing more. This isn't something that can be conquered. It can just be managed to be less of a hit, but a hit it will always be. The greater the quality...the bigger the hit. So even as they lessen the hit at current levels of quality, as time goes on and quality goes up, it'll get worse again as the drop will be greater then gains of learning the ESRAM and using tiled resources.

Now that we have reality framed, we can still understand such a situation is true and yet XB1 owners can legitimately enjoy their XB1 more then the PS4 or Wii U or even PC. Thus they can actually legitimately enjoy an inferior product more.

You see your mistake is thinking it's not multiple things and that it's an all or nothing thing.

It's not.

It IS inferior, but legitimately some people will like and enjoy it more. True, if more people knew the truth or were more of an expert or simply more inquisitive this number would go down, but some will never care to learn.

The people who like it even though it is an inferior would be those that prefer XB1 first party exclusives. Or for example has a controller preference.

Now when it comes to non-gaming activities, that too can add to how they like it overall, even though the system is inferior when it comes to gaming.

True it does more then gaming, but so can be said of anything. Right now my cable box, my PC, my cell phone, all do things the XB1 crams into what it does. To me, these things hold no value. To others, they may. But none of this changes the core function of a games console, is gaming.

Some people want to use their voice to control the tv. Sure it's faster and nimbler to use a remote, but some people want that. It definitely has uses when the remote is missing, broken, batteries dead. Overall to me, it doesn't sway me at all. But none of this makes the gaming better.

Some people want snap, and others are just fine with switching inputs. Personally snap wouldn't mean much because I'd much rather switch input to my PC to surf the net. I also have an HDTV about 3-4 feet from my gaming/pc HDTV so I can always watch tv and game at the same time anyways. Again snap doesn't make gaming better. It doesn't raise resolution or frames per second, etc, etc.

So yes, the Xbox One as a gaming machine is quite a bit inferior, but that doesn't mean a certain segment of the population won't like it more. For some people it fits what they want better.

Sony's approach though, has shown that the bigger segment of the population wanted a games console to play games better and cost less, and provided that.

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jmc8888  +   270d ago
Sadly many game sites and Microsoft PR men tried to obfuscate the truth, which is why when you look around the web there are people shocked by how badly XB1 is being owned in performance with multiplatform games. 1080p vs 720p. Better resolution, better graphics, and better framerate. Any or all of the above.

Which is why even though many are satisfied with their XB1 purchase, many were foolish to believe liars and cronies and are rightly disappointed. Had they been informed truthfully about the performance gap they might have made a different choice, or waited until the price of the XB1 dropped.

Game comparison's like this just bring to light the truth that was hidden from the lay person and they are going to be pissed off and vent. I would just remind those people to remember what console manufacturer and gaming sites hid or downplayed the truth. Then remember that for next next gen. But also remember that every instance is unique so don't be dumb towards the companies that did right by you this time as next gen it may all switch up again
bryam1982  +   270d ago
i don't blame them! is hard to work whit a underpowered console at least they try :-)
dlocsta  +   270d ago
Why do you care what another person chooses to buy? I just don't understand that. I don't buy PS because I don't like the controllers, ever since the PS1. I had all major consoles before it and the Dreamcast but the PS controllers make my hands cramp (I have big hands). I don't not buy the PS4 cause it sucks. It is a great system, it is just not the system for me. I am one of the few who LOVES the original Xbox controllers. That thing fit me like a glove. I was actually a little disappointed when the went to the 360 controller, but for me it is still better that the DS. Anyway, I digress. I just don't understand the hate and ridicule for something you have no intention of ever purchasing yourself. Why hate on someone who enjoys it? One man's trash is another man's treasure. And this goes for the Xbox fanboys as well. Enjoy yours and stop be haters!
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coolvibu93  +   270d ago
No, I know the PS4 is more powerful. I'm not in denial or anything. What I don't get is why some Sony fanboys like you feel the need to call Xbox fanboys fanatics, to think we're all butthurt and in denial. No I'm not. In this comment section I didn't see 1 person deny that PS4 is more powerful than Xbox. Yes the Ps4 is more powerful, we get it! But you fail to account this thing called personal preference. I can't go on this site to check news anymore without being called a fanatic or stupid? Gosh! What kind of world would this be if we were'nt allowed to have different choices?

Striving for the best thing means PS4? No. It may be the best thing for you, but again, it's your personal preference. If I prefer the Wii U, then that is the best for me. You're rational thinking people? Don't flatter yourself. Any positive Xbox comment is thumbed down to oblivion. That's not rational, it's bandwagoning.
Kennytaur  +   270d ago
You sure know how to make the most of that one bubble and fill it with weird passive aggressiveness.
Lilrizky  +   270d ago
Well said
Azzanation  +   270d ago
Someone who buys a console will choose the console that fits there needs. Games, Controller, Service, Friends.

Go PC gaming if you want every frame rate and highest resolution. Your post is garbage no offence.

XB1 is an inferior product in what category? From what iv heard the XB1 supplies a better camera, better head set, better online service, and a very good controller and games that aren't available on the PS4 like Forza and Killer Instinct to name a couple.

A inferior product is when something is superior in every way which the PS4 is not. It has slightly better hardware.
Alex_Boro  +   270d ago
That's true. The only reason someone would buy a Xbox One over PS4 is exclusive titles.
batbatz  +   270d ago
Agreed its not rocket science, but seems beyond some people
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solar  +   270d ago
Why game on an inferior product? If you thought that then you would game on PC. But I play where the games I want to play are on. So hush.
THC CELL  +   271d ago
This is going to hurt
Concertoine  +   271d ago
Lol even at 60 frames i cant warrant spending 60 bucks on this.
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Bathyj  +   271d ago
I can't see it staying full price for very long. It's a bit shameful actually there's not an upgrade program for this like there are for a lot of ps4 games.

Anyway, it will probably be free on Psplus in 6 months
pyramidshead  +   271d ago
It's gonna be a long gen for some folk lol.
Neonridr  +   271d ago
The funny thing about all this is that whenever we hear news about a game being only 30fps everyone defends it saying how 60fps is only needed for racing games or twitch shooters.

Now suddenly the PS4 version can do 60fps whereas the XB1 version can only do 30fps and suddenly 30fps isn't good enough anymore and everyone makes fun of the XB1.

Make up your minds people, you keep flip-flopping like a fish out of water.

I agree with some of the other posters though, are all these changes enough to warrant a double dip?
vitullo31  +   271d ago
you're missing the point.. whether 30 fps is enough or not if you're buying a games console to play games you're paying more money for an inferior machine to play games on.
Immorals  +   271d ago
Yes and when buying a ps4, your also buying an inferior machine to play games on, just get a Pc. Power isn't everything..
vitullo31  +   271d ago
@immorals... your logic doesn't make much sense people buy consoles for their exclusives on top of the ease of use and convenience that a pc doesn't always provide.. for those people an inferior, more expensive xbox one would not be the best choice IMO when you can get a ps4.. again were not talking about pc's not everyone wants to game on a pc people have their preferences.
SilentNegotiator  +   270d ago
Neonridr is just trying too hard to find a contradiction that isn't there.

People saying that 60fps isn't NECESSARY outside of FPS and racing isn't contradictory to saying that it is a GOOD THING to have or that one platform having it and another not being able to manage it is disappointing from the console that couldn't do it.
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LoveOfTheGame  +   270d ago
"your logic doesn't make much sense people buy consoles for their exclusives on top of the ease of use and convenience"

Lol, so maybe someone would buy X1 for the exclusives and ease of use over PS4.

I believe it is your logic that doesn't make sense.
clouds5  +   270d ago
The only reason to buy a console are the games in my opinion. Hardware does not matter at all with consoles. Buying a console because of its "superior" hardware just makes no sense, the PS4 could have all the power in the world. It would still not play Mario. Or Forza. If you wanna play Mario/Zelda/DK but go for PS4 because of better hardware you have just wasted alot of money.

There is one small exception: A console that offers gameplay experiences (you enjoy) that aren't possible on PC.
Wether I play multiplat game XY on PC or PS4 does not matter at all. I could even use the DS4 pad on PC. But it is not possible to have an experience like Wonderful 101 or Kinect bla game on PC.

That's why PC+WiiU = win, at least for me. And the PS4 is one of the most boring consoles ever. I can totally understand why a more casual gamer would get one. You have one system that has pretty good visuals for a decent price. But if you care about visuals you go for PC and if you want new and unique gameplay experiences there are better offers.
vitullo31  +   270d ago
@LoveOfTheGame... "your logic doesn't make much sense people buy consoles for their exclusives on top of the ease of use and convenience"

Lol, so maybe someone would buy X1 for the exclusives and ease of use over PS4.

and that would be called someone's preference which they are completely entitled to but it does not mean my logic doesn't make any sense I guess you missed the part right after when i said IMO.. ps4 would be a better choice..that's called an opinion.. if you disagree with me then good for you you're allowed to have an opinion of your own.. but do not comment on my logic when you clearly have none.
ABizzel1  +   270d ago
@Immorals

But the PS4 is the best value in the low and mid range gaming spectrum. There's nothing that offer that same level of value right now. You can build a gaming PC for $500 that's above the XBO, but you can't build a $400 gaming PC that's above the PS4, it takes $600 to do that, on top of that with PS+ you're getting 12 games each year to play.

There's no greater value than the PS4. That doesn't mean the XBO is bad, but right now it's simply not worth it except to the diehard fans. And IMO it's not worth owning either consoles since there aren'e enough games out and lack of backwards compatibility (although PS Now should help Sony on those grounds).
lifeisgamesok  +   270d ago
I like the exclusives on Xbox One so it isn't inferior in my opinion seeing how i can't play most of them anywhere else

The exclusives coming later this year also look better imho
Neonridr  +   270d ago
@SilentNegotiator - at the end of the day I really don't care. I am merely repeating what was said in the past. I own a PS4, I never played the first version of Tomb Raider, so I might look at picking this up. But do I really care if the XB1 version is only 30fps? What am I going to do, sit in a room and laugh at all the people who are going to have to suffer through this game at 30fps? You act like you've been enjoying 60fps for years on end when in actuality console gamers have been living in 30fps territory for ever minus the odd game here and there.

I dunno, maybe because I am older I don't understand the importance to put another person down because their gaming experience isn't the same as yours.

The PS4 version is 60fps, the XB1 version is only 30fps... so what? If you have a PS4, then bonus, if you have an XB1, oh well. The game will still be a good game at 30fps.. the PS4 version will just be smoother and probably look a little nicer. Enjoy the game on whatever platform you own.
ZeoN  +   270d ago
@immoral you sound hurt
SilentNegotiator  +   269d ago
Oh please. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be spending time in an article comment section inventing contradictions.
Bathyj  +   271d ago
I agree, tomb raider doesn't need 60fps. But its not really the point, hardly anyone is going to by this anyway because we all played it early in the year. The point is the performAnce gap which has become increasingly obvious. That, not tomb raider is going to set the tone for the next 5 to 7 years of the gaming industry.
Volkama  +   271d ago
Aye. 30fps to 60fps isn't necessarily critical, as 30 is perfectly playable in most scenarios to most people.

But the PS4 is pushing up to twice as many frames here, and that is significant. What happens when games push the PS4 down to 1080p30? Where does the One version sit? 15fps? 720p?

To compound the issue further it seems the One's upscaler causes noticeable visual issues so dropping the res is more problematic than it should be.

I don't think it's all doom and gloom for the One though. It does have some unique features and potential that can set it apart in a good way. And Crytek pushed outstanding visuals using software upscaling, so I'm optimistic other devs will learn from their techniques.
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Elit3Nick  +   270d ago
@Volkama, that is a huge exaggeration, Tomb raider pretty much shows the power difference between the two consoles, running at the same resolution and same FX, the difference is pretty much about a 15-20fps difference.
Death  +   271d ago
I'll end up picking a copy up since I missed it on the Xbox360/PS3. This early in the new generations console life cycle, releases like this are common. It's sad to see some of the entitled comments on the internet that are becoming more and more common. People complaining that they should get a free digital upgrade from the previous console versions is not realistic. Then we see all the "not good enough" comments. It's ok to not buy games if they aren't right for you. The internet is a funny place though and it's much easier to hurt the gaming industry than it is to help it. It wouldn't be a bad idea to be a little responsible with what is said and understand what impact our words have on the industry as a whole. The one thing we all have in common is our passion for games.
Visiblemarc  +   271d ago
The problem I have is that it extends way beyond 1080 vs 720 or 60 fps vs 30 fps.

In each case we are talking about an enormous difference in represented power. (To be honest, though quite a bit more powerful on paper the PS4 is seeing a disproportionate performance edge in most recent games, probably due to ease of programming.)

The frustrating thing is that sure, the games will be fine at 720 or 30 fps (though NOTICEABLY less good), but people act like that's the full story. It isn't.

If todays games run at twice the frames/pixel count, if the trend continues then later in the generation when the machines are pushed to the limit and PS4 can only hang on by it's fingernails at 720 + 30fps, current numbers tell us xb1 likely won't be able to play those games, period (or with SEVERE reductions in quality).

THAT is the story here.

Will improved coding help in the future? My guess is somewhat, but not entirely.
Neonridr  +   271d ago
I understand that the differences between the two versions tell a larger story. It's just funny how things change. If both were confirmed to be at 1080p/30fps then people would say that 60fps doesn't matter.
ABizzel1  +   270d ago
@Neonridr

People were rag tagging this version, because they though it was announced to be 1080p @ 30fps to begin with. NO ONE WANTED AT ALL BACK THEN, especially since it was $60.

No one is saying 30fps is bad, but when you look at console A which has the game running at 60fps, and you look at console B running the same game at 30fps, it's a big WTF.

MS focus was Multi-media, meaning games, movies, TV, music, etc...

Sony's focus was Games > Multimedia.

And that's why we're here now. There's no point bashing the XBO, but the PS4 is flat out the better value HARDWARE WISE. To each there own in any other regard, but when it comes to pure monetary value PS4 is the best period.
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Hicken  +   270d ago
But nothing has changed.

It's still fine for the game to be at 30fps. It's just NOT fine that one console runs at twice that, while the other runs at JUST that.
Death  +   270d ago
Why?

How is it not "fine" that one console runs at a faster fps? You don't have an Xbox One, why do you care and who are you to say it's not acceptable? Obviously Xbox fans would love to be able to say the Xbox version runs at 60fps. I'm not sure how tragic not running at 60 is though. If the game dips below 30 fps and becomes unplayable, that would be very bad. From what we have seen it hits 45 fps and dips to 30 fps when the scene is more active. The PS4 version runs at 60 fps and dips to an undefined fps in the same scenes. I'm not sure how much of an issue this really is. It's nice to make a huge deal to support your team, but unless it impacts game play it's not really relevant.
tobiworldwide  +   270d ago
Well I think 60fps should be mandatory but i guess isnt absolutely needed. But when the same game on two different consoles
Have such a difference of, be it framerate or resolution then it proves wrong all the "the cloud is our mirthful messiahs" and "oh itll increase the power of the console" arguments. Its lacking enough power to effectively work a last gen game with powerups.I mean yeah its no small feat but shouldn't a $100 buy increase show $100 power increase?
By its price tag it should be the stronger gaming console. This is why we point this kind of stuff out. They`re pissing on the xbox fan without having the courtesy of calling it rain. I was so looking forward to the Xbone back at E3(cuz I had a 360) but even as a "to the death!" Xbox fanboy I couldn't defend something like what they pulled and tried to pull. Im sorry and I know we all have free choice to choose what we want but choosing the ps4 is a no brainer. Its Common sense, really.
dodo101  +   270d ago
It's not about 30fps is not good enough anymore.
It's about the ps4 that runs 2 times the frames of the xbox one. that is a big difference in power.
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   271d ago
Ouch!!
ichdich  +   271d ago
but you got 0 FPS for Titanfall.. its nice :)
pyramidshead  +   271d ago
lol whether you like it or not there are other ways other than owning an XB1 to play Titanfall, specifically the definitive version of Titanfall which will be the PC one.
cell989  +   270d ago
which I can guarantee PC will be the superior version, without the cloud and all
rarity  +   271d ago
but you get 0 FPS for infamous second son:H-Hour world elite,the order1886,lily bergamo,deep down,earth defense force,tomb raider:DE,yakuza ishin,rime,natural doctrine,driveclub,gran turismo 7,final fantasy xiv,shadow of the beast,everybody has gone to the rapture,mobile suit gundam,MLB14:the show and uncharted 4...it's nice :) oh and by the way you mean get not got titanfall isn't out yet :)
ichdich  +   271d ago
why ? i got a PS4 also... but Titanfall is all that matter.
Unreal01  +   270d ago
Titanfall is all that matters? Haha.

You just lost any bit of credibility.
cell989  +   270d ago
Titanfall is all that matters? really? thats your best comeback lol
rarity  +   271d ago
wanna know how i know you're lying?" i got a PS4 also... but Titanfall is all that matter" then why get a ps4 and looking at your comment history you always say "i own an xbox one and ps4" and then bash the ps4 and you always say something negative toward playstation and say stuff like "ps4 has no games mines collect dust" if that were true then why get a ps4? you do realise the xbox one and ps4 has almost the exact same amount games out currently right? and the ps4 has better multiplats than the xbox one. try HARDER
ichdich  +   270d ago
i know, and im not lying, i really got both of them. I play Battlefield 4 alot. with my friends on the PS4, BUT i just got an Xbox One just for Titanfall. I already played the alpha , and was AMAZED, I REALLY dont know what game on PS4 will get me back there...i bought both of them to enjoy all the exclusives.
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HaveAsandwich  +   271d ago
ms is like, "oh god. this just never goes away."
jaredhart  +   271d ago
Not a surprise to me either.
BanginBiscuitz  +   271d ago
I have an X1 and i dont plan to buy a PS4 for many years. I do want to say though i am very pleased to see that it was able to get to 1080P on stable 30+ FPS. To me that is very very solid on a game like Tomb Raider that has so much going on, especially with the gameplay i have seen and how much they really did increase the graphics. I am getting the PS4 eventually just for exclusive titles (because i am a gamer) but i am again satisfied that it will run 1080p 30+FPS.
Death  +   271d ago
As more tools are released and drivers are updated, the DDR3/eSram configuration will be easier to use. The Xbox One will never be as easy or "powerful" as the PS4, but the differance is much less than people claim.

I've personally always prefered fun to play with over pretty. The overall gaming experience should be what we all look at and not simply resolution and frame rate. Interaction with the game through the console and also interaction with other players adds much more immersion than a couple extra pixels or frames per second.
Volkama  +   271d ago
I read that the One version runs at about 45fps and dips to a minimum of 30 when the action hots up.

I also read that the PS4 version is capped at 60fps, but can drop a bit when the action hots up.

I'm not sure the Neogaf poster has a solid understanding of what "average" means.

Not trying to be too pedantic here, the difference in numbers is significant as to just how big the performance gap is.
GTgamer  +   270d ago
@Death
http://media2.giphy.com/med... you not Developer what game have you made Nobody knows.
Volkama  +   271d ago
It's pretty shoddy that a game which was fundamentally designed to run on 8 year old console hardware cannot hit 1080p60. Even with the extra bells and whistles to the visuals.

8 years of progress, and we're making the same things look a bit crisper.

Hope "next gen" kicks into life properly soon!
Death  +   271d ago
The reason the developer/publisher is asking full pop on the game is due to the effort they put in to making the game "next gen" for the new consoles. If they increased the visual fidelity, how do you expect to also increase the fps without scaling it somehow? If the game looked identical to the previous versions, then 60fps is a no brainer. Take a look at launch software for the last 30 years. Not many systems peak within 60 days. Properly soon should start in a year or two after launch.
Nabbic  +   271d ago
It's not the spec it's the awful eSRAM.
It's not the spec it's the awful eSRAM.
It's not the spec it's the awful eSRAM.
It's not the spec it's the awful eSRAM.

Yes, the PS4 is more powerful. However both systems ARE capable of 1080p/60FPS. It's just the eSRRAM is harder to develop for.
windblowsagain  +   271d ago
It's not just the esram.

The GPU isn't good enough.
Flamingweazel  +   271d ago
Yes lets pretend GPUs dont exist or that the ps4 has a much better one, there is a lot mroe to this then esram, the gap si never going away..
Angels3785  +   270d ago
All those included ^^^ plus a possible higher cpu clock speed and GDDR5
MightyNoX  +   270d ago
You're getting the difference between GDDR5 and DDR3

Not to mention the bloated OS (3 actually) inside the Xbox One.
tdogg  +   271d ago
I wouldn't care if I was locked at 120fps I'm not paying $65 for a texture pack
KonsoruMasuta  +   270d ago
Not just better textures. Am lot of things were redone and added in to make it truly the definitive version.
ziggurcat  +   270d ago
it also comes with all of the DLC content. again, people like you crying over the $60 seem to forget that little bit of information.

but nice try anyway.
jacksjus  +   271d ago
The title is inaccurate. The developer said they were targeting 1080p/30fps on both and they were surprised to achieve 60fps on average on the PS4. Speak the whole truth and stop twisting up stories.
sgtGanGreen  +   270d ago
We will see 2 years from now. They still porting games from last year.
We will see how games made for xbox one look like

And one more thing this is SP game so it's not game killer
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mochachino  +   270d ago
I wish I knew at least one person with an Xone so I could gloat the rest of the gen and playfully mock the inferior multiplats (like they did when I only had ps3), but everyone I know bought PS4 or is waiting for it to be available.

It's not as fun if I can't see their inferior version then go home and feel the satisfaction of having the superior game while paying significantly less for the console, and having the better online game service
coolvibu93  +   270d ago
you're what's wrong with the gaming community
rakentaja  +   270d ago
Alpha six to base: Still trying to get the system to operate at 60 framespersecond...looking for any clouds....%.......%.........%. ...%.....searching.....%.....%. .....%........%.....<operati on unsuccessful>.."the clouds aren't available at this time, try again later" Alpha to base......"sky is clear"...I repeat "the sky is clear", base to Alpha: abort the mission, I will repeat, abort the mission, return to base. Alpha: roger that, mission aborted, call ended.
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XiSasukeUchiha  +   270d ago
Make senses out of this situation is PS4 1080p 60fps and xbone can't
Donnywho  +   270d ago
Hey have you heard the latest, hottest news pertaining to the new game consoles? Yea, well it's about a game that came out last year that they're re-releasing with slight improvements.
ShinnokDrako  +   270d ago
It's something that happens when you work on weak hardware. Too bad for the Xbone only users. Well, not exactly "too bad", since 30fps are ok too.
MasterCornholio  +   270d ago
You get what you pay for.

:)

Once the price drops I'll pick this game up for my PS4.
KNWS  +   270d ago
Sony fans the xb1 was not made just for gamers sooner you realise that, the more comfortable you should feel with your choice.

XB1 is all round entertainment system.

PS4 was specifically designed for gamers .

It would be a problem, if the xb1 was just a gaming machine and the PS4 was outperforming it!

If you want a gaming console with the best GPU (leave aside the steam machine) get a PS4

If you want a console with more features buy an xb1.

Sony fans get a life please. XB1 sold 3 million not all gamers wanted a console that just played games at higher settings.
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MasterCornholio  +   270d ago
So your saying that the PS4 is a gaming machine while the Xbox One is a glorified cable box.

Thanks for admitting that.

:)

I'm a gamer which is why I bought a PS4. As for TV I dowload everything anyways.
bobacdigital  +   270d ago
You do realize outside of Kinect they do essentially the same EXACT same thing (The Eye isnt as robust but gives you some of the same experiences)? Most people I know turn off all the Kinect features anyways because overtime you get lazy or you get tired of repeating yourself.

MSFTS problem was they tried to tap into casuals and sell a machine everyone would love ... They tried what Nintendo did with the Wii .. they wanted to grow a demographic by appealing to new customers... The problem with that is they alienated their own base and those casual customers have moved on or started to seek other avenues to game (tablets and phones).

Sony did the right thing and gave developers what they really wanted to make games for. They also bolstered their their exclusives over the years..
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TristanPR77  +   270d ago
What, are you crazy? Apart from being the most powerful console the PS4 will offer PlayStation Now, TV without the need of a cable box like the xbone and as today the best streaming is on PS4 through twitch and ustream.
mmc-007  +   270d ago
error 404 cloud not found.
TheBurger29  +   270d ago
reason i still have my xbone is halo, that is it
TristanPR77  +   270d ago
So, it is confirmed this game will run 1080p @ 60fps on the PS4?
KonsoruMasuta  +   270d ago
Yes.
ziggurcat  +   270d ago
yes, but it's not a locked 60fps.
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NikX  +   270d ago
Aww man don't you guys get tired of bashing other consoles all the time? enough with this Fanboy BS!

I gotta admit though I was a Sony Fanboy back in 2012 but then I grew up because honestly I don't see the point of it. I'll be getting PS4 but that doesn't mean Xbox One sucks. They're both great consoles and have great exclusive games. It's just matter of choice. You pick which exclusive games you like, features, online experience, etc
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Max-Zorin  +   270d ago
PC gamers are just kicking back eating popcorn and drinking beer laughing at console gamers argue about a resolution and fps they've been using before it was cool.
DJ  +   270d ago
No surprise here, Xbox One's GPU is 30% slower than PS4 and its RAM is 50% slower.
TheSaint  +   270d ago
To anyone with a brain, this is the case.
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