Lionhead's boss John Needham explains why the online system in Fable Legends is built around Xbox One's cloud.
Now they just using this phrase to promote the cloud. I dont see why it would need the clouds processing power? Is this game ginna be conpatible w kinect also?
@Ripsta I doubt it'll use Kinect. Well they might use it for casual stuff. If you read the article the Lion Head boss basically said they're using it for connectivity. They can use the cloud for connectivity tools of sorts. Or back ground utility tools in game Apparently The cloud brings. Darksouls and Journey type of connectivity they want to utilize in Fable. Sounds interesting.
"Darksouls and Journey type of connectivity they want to utilize in Fable." Sounds like they're trying to claim already proven tech as their own. As their innovation.
@godsmar, I read the article and didnt come away with that conclusion.
1)Use something that has been available/used for years in gaming. 2) Give it a different name. 3) Promote the hell out of it and act like it's a new thing to fool the naive masses. ^^^ That has pretty much been MS's strategy with the cloud. It's amazing how many people get duped by it. Im not bad mouthing the feature itself, just the way its been promoted. PC's have used the "cloud" for years, the PS3 and 360 also used the "cloud", it's nothing new. MS are just focusing the spotlight on it to try and make it seem like some new, cutting edge feature.
@Lukas No its nothing new but using it in games sounds like its new. I don't really think MS is introducing it as "new tech" but using the tech as an added pillar on top of what they're already doing. The thing that's bother me is the use to power graphics. AI, physics sure but better graphics is still unproven. And imo will remain unproven for a while, a good while at that. @Mars I don't think there intentions were to take the tech as their own, But draw inspiration from it. Those 2 games worked perfectly. All Lionhead wants to do is translate that innovation into there own creation.
" I don't really think MS is introducing it as "new tech"" They most definitely did/are promoting it as a new feature/tech. They didn't mention it at all when last gen used it (no one did, because it's really not a big deal).....then as soon as the X1 hits its "Only achievable through the power of the cloud"..."the power of the cloud makes the X1 3 times more powerful". They know how naive the mass public are, so they introduced a new buzzword for something that has been here for years and people lap it up.
"All Lionhead wants to do is translate that innovation into there own creation." No, as a 2nd - 1st? - party studio, they're using something their main company has largely over promoted. Lukas is pretty much spot on: MS has only been saying that they dominate with cloud servers. That they can use it to improve gameplay, when in fact its more about justifying the always online stance. Getting people to use and pay for XBL because they have to use and pay for XBL.
You right the cloud been around for yrs. But not many companies can match MS cloud infrastructure. Also you have to remember that Xbox One was gonna be an always online console so it made sense for them to push Cloud the way they did. Now that being said as a consumer is up to you to believe whatever you want or just do your homework on Cloud. Also can you link me some games on PC or consoles that utilized the cloud service for gaming purposes in anyway.
@Godmars290 I already mentioned this on one of the TitanFall thread that people need to start understanding what is Cloud. It is no magic, Cloud is merely a computing term and hardly even a tech of it's own. What is done on Cloud is already possible without Cloud. Unfortunately general consumers do not understand this which cant be blame. This is also due to the way how they try to advertise it. Just like in this article. "Thanks to Xbox One's Cloud" making the game possible. In the first place, the game is possible without Cloud. Also Cloud is not exclusive to Xbox One. And you dont need a new hardware to specifically support Cloud to utilize it. So look at how misleading it is especially to those who do not even understand what is Cloud.
You don't know what you're talking about. The way they are using cloud for consoles is new and only being done on xb1. Please don't say sony has a cloud because they don't. All they did was buy a streaming service that already existed. MS, Google, Amazon have real cloud computing services.
@Belking Nice try there little boy. I have not talked anything about Sony at all. I am talking purely about the Cloud matter and in general while not specific to XO. And you sir start trying to do damage control there and bring Sony into the picture? How funny and a moron you are? I dont need you to tell me who have and does Cloud services. I probably know them better than you. I am in the same industry doing the same thing. I am just merely saying that they over sell Cloud and mislead the general consumers on what it actually is and what it does. This has nothing to do with who has actual Cloud service or what does Sony do. You are moving completely out of context here. And you are simply making yourself an idiot here assuming it is only being done on XB1. So yes M$ bought 300000 servers just for your freaking XO. How funny you are. How naive are you seriously. It is not "only" being done on XO. On TitanFall you will also be utilizing the Cloud even if you are playing from PC / 360. Get your facts right dude. It is not ONLY XO like you assume. And for goodness sake, The way they use Cloud is nothing new. There are already games in previous generation that utilize the similar method. It is just that they did not advertise it as Cloud. And I said previously, with or without Cloud same thing can be done. Cloud is only a terminology. Gosh... when will fanboy grow up and be more intelligent.
Thank you, all mighty CLOUD
*facepalm* Seriously, all these "thanks to the Xbox One cloud" PR stuff is becoming a bit of an eye sore now. Still, worse than that is all the obligatory hate comments that will undoubtedly be coming.
Notice how devs never mention any specifics about the "cloud". They're simply rebranding something that's been in use for years now; connecting to the internet.
Yup lol, the only specifics I know about the cloud is the thieving barstool stole my GTA online character.
Maybe build an engine from the ground up to utilise this then and not use a standard third party game engine a lot of other lazy devs will have their games on in the next 2 years?
This "cloud" stuff is starting to sound like a load of BS as of late.
Its become the hot phrase of this generation. Its becoming cringe worthy right up there with "Synergy" from a few years back.
Hopefully the next Xbox markets the phrase "mitosis" and the console looks like Phil Spencer's head and the Kinect add-on is his right foot.
as of late? don't you mean since they first announced it.
Its not just MS saying it. I am hearing it all over the place in multiple products, etc... 4K is going to be the next big thing we hear every TV maker spewing. 3D TV was 2012 into 2013, Cloud 2013 into 2014 and 4K will fill the 2nd half of 2014 into 2015.
I will be really happy once we are far enough into this generation that we can finally stop hearing the term "thanks to the cloud".
Maybe Sony can come up with a mocking meme like "Thanks to the Sun, PS4 is infinitely more powerful than anything else on Earth"
Microsoft will still try to one-up them though, they'll come out with something like, "you know that black hole in the centre of our galaxy, well, we've managed to harness its power for all of your gaming needs."
For sony it would be "thanks to the hot air, we got everybody fooled" Your comment doesn't even make sense. MSFT's cloud compute servers were designed to make the XB1 more capable than any local console hardware could possibly achieve. The cloud is a thing PS4 fanboys will hate on because they know Sony's offerings don't match MSFT's(dedicated cloud compute servers). If Sony was ever able to launch a massive network of compute servers and if PS4 was designed from the ground up to use this tech PS4 fanboys would think it's the greatest thing ever. Who in the hell complains over the name of a use of tech or method? Should it be called remote processing? Or remote design? The industry calls it "CLOUD"
@Greenpower- Sony is doing this alredy, did you miss Playstation Now?
Everytime MS devs go on about the cloud I picture the Aliens off Toy Story pointing up and all saying "The Cloud" http://31.media.tumblr.com/...
Download Cloud To Butt. It will make articles like this a LOT more entertaining.
Posting this comment was possible thanks to the power of the cloud.
m$ begining to look so ridiculous mentioning this cloud all the time
The cloud a fancy word for just using data over the internet stored on a server something any device with internet is capable of using.
I call Bull Shit.
Some of you need to actually read up on what Azure offers to devs. It isn't just "crude" dedicated server support... Sony's Gaikai tech is incapable (in its current) form to utilize everything MS Azure can accomplish. Son'y main vision with Gaikai was streaming technology. Azure is more focused around offering devs tools to be able to build/manage programs and apps through a network. Not only is Azure a more ambitious project, it also has a much larger coverage area.
"It’s not about MMOs. It’s just about having games that people can play together, connected games. The Xbox One improves the things we can do in the cloud with Fable and the things we can do with matchmaking and different online modes. I always mention this, but I love Dark Souls, where you’re invading other people’s worlds, and games like Journey, where people are organically coming in and out of your game world. Having that kind of infrastructure behind the Xbox One gives you a lot of flexibility to do highly innovative online." If it brings innovation and ups the gameplay then im all for it.....bring it on.
The cloud is important for xbox one, see how it is exploited.
This sounds like really like something else not just cloud give us proof for one in a video it's can speak 1000 words after that!
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