Shuhei Yoshida Comments On Dimming The DualShock 4 LED

GearNuke: "When the DualShock 4 was originally unveiled, complaints were thrown around on how its Light bar can reflect in the TV screen and how it glows in the dark. The Light bar was also blamed to result in a rather short DualShock 4 battery life. This annoyed some of the people and a set of complaints started. Sony outright slammed the possibility of disabling Light bar but seems like dimming it might be a better alternative solution."

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TimeSkipLuffy1788d ago

Turn off if not used is the best solution unless you give us a really trustworthy and logical reason why it has to be turned on all the time.
I wouldn't care because I do not have that problem but a friend of mine is really pissed and things start to sum up. Her PS4 is very very loud, game crashes, etc... and now she is gone to X1 camp and will stay there because she thinks its the better system overall despite of the non user friendly UI. One friend less to play with...

MRMagoo1231787d ago

Maybe your "friend" should have returned the ps4 for a working one, because i now know in my local area 42 ppl with a ps4 and none of those have been loud or crashing in games a lot , it could probably be all because of a faulty console, like the fans are loud because the systems not cooling enough and that would also probably make games crash.

WalterWJR1787d ago

Probably crashing on battlefield lol

admiralvic1787d ago

"know in my local area 42 ppl with a ps4 and none of those have been loud or crashing in games a lot , it could probably be all because of a faulty console,"

Do they actually USE the console? I only ask, because simpler games like Don't Starve and Resogun don't make a sound, but if I load Killzone, then the fans go off and it is quite loud.

Sethry1011787d ago

Says a lot about the quality of your consol when the highest problem it has is an annoying little light bar.

personally the light bar has never really effected me because I sit pretty far from the TV, but I do hate how it glows when charging while I'm trying to sleep.

Tru_Blu1787d ago

Walter exactly. I was about to ask if this game happened to be BF4.

zeee1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

Well, to be honest, I would LOVE to turn off that light bar. It'd be nice to have that option. I want to save the battery as much as possible even though, it's only LED. I have turned off that little speaker on the DS4 and have also turned off Vibration (never really cared about Rumble that much) yet the battery still sucks compared to the rock solid, long lasting DS3 battery.

Lastly, the one that that I am VERY annoyed is the bluetooth headset support.

Seriously, this is messed up. I really REALLY want to use my PS3 wireless headset (not the Pulse but the first one). I want my virtual 7.1 surround sound man. It makes one hell of a difference when you are playing games like Battlefield. Plus, the comfort level is sky high compared to my Galaxy S4 stereo headphones.

Bennibop1787d ago

@NighmareLuffy I get the feeling you are trolling, your friend could have got a replacement but instead she moved to X1 which has a wider range of reported potential technical problems

TimeSkipLuffy1787d ago

I agree. I told her to send the console back because Amazon is offering a great service but she is the type that gets frustrated very fast. And because she always buy all consoles she got the choice which one her primary console will be.

nukeitall1787d ago


"Says a lot about the quality of your consol when the highest problem it has is an annoying little light bar. "

I think it is more a case of it being so annoying it overshadows everything else.

I really don't understand the point of this lightbar thing. Just turn it off, or is it not possible?

Maybe Sony didn't plan on it every being turned off, because they originallyl envisioned the PS Eye included with every PS4.

RumbleFish1787d ago

I'd like to turn it off. For now I have it covered with duct tape.

ITPython1787d ago

My PS4 is whisper quite even after several hours playing KZ:SF and a room with a temp of around 70 degrees.

Perhaps those that complain about a loud PS4 fan are either exaggerating, got an unlucky console, have their PS4 sealed up in an entertainment system with no airflow and/or they live in very hot areas.

ShadowReaper141786d ago

the only problem i have with my ps4 is when i flip to a different hdmi setting to watch cable or use my ps3 while something is downloading on my ps4 or something and then try to go back to the hdmi setting that is connected to the ps4. i get a black screen with no sound i have to turn off the ps4 and turn it back on and then it will be fine but i can't turn on the ps4 while watching cable then turn to that hdmi setting. Only a minor annoyance. I mean it could also be my tv because the ps4 is such powerful machine or something i have no idea why it does that. i was just wondering if someone else has this problem? or knows how i can fix it! :)

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xHeavYx1787d ago

Cool story bro, hopefully her imaginary PS4 has a guaranty

Plasticgearsolid1787d ago

You mean his imaginary friend's imaginary PS4

HardcoreGamer1787d ago

i dont know, if i bought a ps4 and it made all these problems, i would of move to xbox 1 aswell

after thinking about it while typing this.. NO I WOULDNT. its not enough to change to a difference console.

Prime1571787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

At the gamestop I worked at, I had a lady return 2 xboxes in ONE day. I was like, when do you give up? I mean they were readily available without shipping, I guess.

I've only seen one ps4 come back.

KonsoruMasuta1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

Your friend must have had a super defective PS+ if she was having constant game crashes and it was loud enough to make her complain about it. Your friend should have used this thing we call a "warranty".

princejb1341787d ago

We'll I hope your friend enjoys your xbox. She won't be missed

VforVideogames1787d ago

Yeha she turn to the dark side.

Joey_Leone1787d ago

She's trippin, me and everyone else i know have no issues with the ps4, the only time i experience crashes is when i played BF4, and she said the PS4 is too loud? She must have had that system next to her head.

dillhole1787d ago

Well that sounds completely made up. Nice try though.

PersonMan1787d ago

My PS4 is perfect. Haven't had a single game crash and it has been as quiet as my PS3 Slim.

minimur121787d ago

I'm not sure if it's just my os4 but by the sounds of it, it just is, but sometimes when there's quite a demanding game on screen you can here the fans, thoughts people?

At first when I heard it I got a bit worried but after a while I've got used to it. At least I've got a warranty if anything f*!ks up

GW2121787d ago

I'm with you.

I actually have had a game crash (BF4 obviously) but that hasn't happened since the first week I got my PS4. 100% smooth sailing for the last few months.

I am still pleasantly surprised at how quiet the console is. I never hear the fan no matter what game I'm playing.

T21787d ago

@nightmare - ah yes the fully returnable ps4 under warranty is a huge issue but when people's 36o crashed 2-5 times they were loyal xbox camp huh? By that logic 50 percent of 360 owners would have switched within 2 years

TimeSkipLuffy1787d ago

she switched from X360 to PS3 because her X360 died several times. She always buy all consoles. She is truly a console freak XD
but now it turned around. Nothing I can do. She is like that.

TimeSkipLuffy1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

@Bennibop My friend is like that. She always buy all consoles and was too frustrated because the Killzone bundle send by amazon was delayed and then she got a faulty machine over christmas. She always enjoys the console she feel most comfortable with.
For me it is the PS4 despite missing features. I was always a playstation child (not Sony even if its a sony brand) but I respect other opinions, too. She was just unlucky and now she plays X1. There are people like that who get frustrated very quickly. Nothing to do about that.

she had the killzone bundle with CoD and BF4.
All crashed at some point.

I assume it was because of a faulty machine (known fan problem). I don't know if she is going to return it for another one. She does not care about PS4 anymore. In our company three ppl including me preordered a PS4. Two got problems with the fan / cooling system. I'm the only one who got lucky XD

It's sad to read that ppl always assume bashing of a console and madeup storys. If you like you can visit us here in Germany and convince yourself of the problem. She got no problem with that at all.
I just tell how it is. Sadly truth can hurt sometimes.

AshleeEmerson1787d ago

Lol, I usually don't respond but when it comes to expert trolling... you're doing it right! Congrats, now beat it. Says me, the internet bully.

Lukejrl1787d ago

Guys guys guys guys, why do you feel so threatened by what luffy is saying. I can not believe the time wasted on this comment whether what he is saying is true or not. He is being very polite and even somewhat believable. If you think he is lying then ignore him and move on.

Utalkin2me1786d ago


Cause this is a article about the led on the controller. He felt the reason to tell us his story that has no bearing on the article. His own fault for getting flogged.

il-JumperMT1787d ago

BETAfield 4 crashes do not count.

Angeljuice1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

My PS4 is completely silent and hasn't crashed once since I bought it (admittedly I don't own battlefield though).

Depending on how its circuit is designed, it could well be impossible to turn off the LED. It doesn't cause a problem for me personally however.

ITPython1787d ago

Also it's possible dimming it won't do much to extend the battery life if it is dimmed via PWM.

And the light itself doesn't bother me either, but I would like to know how much current it's drawing. If it's less than 50mA then turning it off completely would only give a few extra minuets of battery power. However if its sucking 100-150mA of juice, then it is a significant draw on the battery.

saber000051787d ago

@NightmareLuffy, Do you realize how much power the LED light actually uses? Not to mention how small the module actually is? There's a reason why LED lights are now so much popular.. They BARELY take up ANY power, but broadcast a bright light. I do soldering all the time, and I took a look at the PS4s... Turning it off won't make a difference...

Neonridr1787d ago

but why can't we have the simple option to turn it off if we want? I can turn the LED notifications on my phone on or off, I can even change the colors to signify different events. I don't have the PS4 camera, I don't have two controllers, so why in the hell do I need to have a light on the top of my controller on?

When I play Killzone it changes color to indicate my health, thanks. I can see how close I am to dying by looking at the TV, not my controller..

The light requires power, whether it's a little or a lot shouldn't matter. It IS affecting the battery, regardless if it isn't as much as some people like to believe. Having the option to turn it off would do nothing but improve the battery life, even if it was only mere minutes..

Of course putting in a larger battery is a better solution.. but that's a different story.

Utalkin2me1786d ago


If things are so bad that you need a couple of extra minutes from a controller, you have issues.

saber000051786d ago

Maybe they have the light on, so they it shows you that the controller is on... I feel your battery argument is invalid because it uses BARELY any power... If anything, it shortens the battery life by 20 seconds... It's not worth the time or money to hire programmers, for hours, to create an option on the PS4 to turn it off the light. Because then, they have to spend a butt load of money to press it as an update.

BABY-JEDI1787d ago

Wow. What a dim view she has of the PS4. She will get diminishing returns from an Xbox1. I bet you think she's a dim whit now. Really sorry for the bad puns

rayzorn1786d ago

i have played 4 disk based games so far. madden, battlefield, ac4 and killzone. killzone is the only one that is really loud for me not sure why. my ps4 is in an open entertainment center. well ventilated and its level not wobbling.

kz sounds like the disk is shaking inside the drive though. but i put movies and other games in and it dont do that. and the killzone disk looks fine. no distortions, warps or scratches.

Elimin81786d ago

Dim is a good option.. NOT completely turned off. I would assume you need it for in-game health, battery indicator, Player location and assignment? It's not all that bad really. I say dim instead of completely off. If they turn it off some of the options I mentioned might no lover be supported by devs…. E.g health, notification etc…

My thoughts….

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M-M1787d ago

Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with the light bar?

Utalkin2me1787d ago

Its not so much the light bar bothering you while you play. Its draining the battery when honestly it should be able to be turned off.

LOL_WUT1787d ago

I don't know but u could've sworn the battery lasted me 4 hours without the cable I too think they should address this issue ;)

BitbyDeath1787d ago

Is the battery time really an issue though?
Who has the time/patience to play for 8-10 hours straight?

kreate1787d ago

agreed. I don't think its the light bar that bothers ppl. even the 360 controller has a green light coming straight at ur eyes, and the x1 has white light coming straight at ur eyes while holding it.

its the battery I think should be the main concern here.

Angeljuice1787d ago


When I have plenty of weed and free time, I've been known to put in up to 18hrs a day for a couple of weeks. Red Dead Redemption, Fallout, Gran Turismo and Skyrim (amongst others) have all received this degree of attention in the past.

TekoIie1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

There's one thing that no one can deny; which is having the choice is always better.

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thehitman1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

I dont have a problem either. I think the complaint is dumb. You cant see the lightbar when your playing a game off the screen its not that bright. In the dark its actually quite useful as it helps me see my controllers lol... I do admit it is kinda useless in terms of gameplay is concerned with the light flashing etc or changing colors but it also doesn't impede my experience in anyway whatsoever. Its LED so it doesnt drain the battery if anything the audio and rumble does.

I am sure they will add a feature to change colors to whatever you want later and a turn off, but its definitely at the bottom of the list in functions/features they should be focusing on.

JetsFool35001787d ago

Thats where people get confused my tv stand is small so the bottom of the tv is right at my knees usually where I hold the controller & it is bright enough to shine off my plasma

princejb1341787d ago

I don't have a problem with it either
People will just always have something to complain about
If you give them the option to turn it off someone will cry about not been able to change the color when they want
Give them that and they'll cry over something else

Neonridr1787d ago

stop crying about people wanting to cry.. :P

MRMagoo1231787d ago

I have no problems with the light bar but then again, i dont play in the dark ever, i also dont have any problem with the controllers battery life, i charge it around the same amount as i charged my ps3 controller which was about once every 3 days or so.

GribbleGrunger1787d ago

I forget it's there until an article reminds me it is. I suppose it's the same as when some people complain they can hear a dog barking all night while other just don't hear it because they're not listening for it.

Ratty1787d ago

No problem here either.

GrandpaSnake1787d ago

for me it also helps finding it and it also looks cool when someone is holding it

minimur121787d ago

I actually live it, when I'm playing Killzone I'd put something bright infront of the controller so I can see the colours better of what my health is in the corner of my eye and I don't rally need to take my eyes of a game

Neonridr1787d ago

@minimur12 - so you rely on the color on your controller to tell you about your health? Not the fact that the red colors start creeping into the corners of the screen and start filling it up as you get closer to death?

bobtheimpaler1787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

I don't have a problem with it. I doubt its the light. LEDs really don't use much power, and the battery in the DS4 is more than double that of the DS3s. More likely the speaker, chat or maybe even touchpad are reason for battery life.

That said. Controllers do charge up faster to make up for it.

What I'd like sony to do is allow for DS4 sounds to be output to main speakers in firmware, so that I can game in complete silence with my headset late at night.

Blackcanary1787d ago

Why don't you just make it so the sound all comes through ur head set that you plug in to the controller when you play at night that works really well.

sevilha821787d ago

No sir you are not...

Dont understand what the fuss is about(apart from the batery drain)it dosen´t bother me one bit.just place your hands in a donwward position.

People complain to much and don´t even try to find solutions for their "problems"

jacksons981787d ago

I don't have a problem with it. Actually in my opinion the DS4 is the best controller ever.
Actually I personally love the light.

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Rageanitus1787d ago

I am currently using my PS4 for netflix now.... and one thing that is bothering me is there is no BD remote for the dam thing!

I have to wait till my DS shuts off by itself without pulling up the submenu.

Neo Nugget1787d ago

Yeah, same. I tried to turn off the controller manually but that didn't work. I don't really have a problem with it when I'm playing games though.

cee7731787d ago (Edited 1787d ago )

Here's a trick!

Hold the PS button.
Hit circle to exit back out the menu.
Hit X to continue whatever you were watching.

*Please note you have to continue to hold down the PS button during the entire process and within 10 to 15 secs your ds4 should power down.

fenome1787d ago

Thanks cee773! Just tried this and it works, love finding new little things I didn't know about. +bubs :)

Rageanitus1787d ago

it should be really implemented like the PS3 style. Logging into a profile per controller is ridiculous kindov reminds me of the xbox method.

minimur121787d ago

Dude, you can use your TV remote on it!

The TV remote you use to turn on/off the TV you can use to navigate the UI and also for blue ray playback, it should work on Netflix but I haven't tried yet