Microsoft's Phil Spencer Wants Kingdom Hearts HD On Xbox, Signs The Petition.
It could happen, but I think Square would wait to see how KH3 performs No point in putting forth the effort if nobodys gonna buy it
I think it would make more sense to bring the originals to the system and then see if people will come for the new one instead of the other way around. All you are doing is making the series itself less accessible to gamers, the way you are looking at it.
That would make sense if they didn't already start development on the Xbox version without any plans for the remakes on Xbox consoles
I agree with Jesus. And I really like how that sounds. But yeah. It makes more sense to bring the first games before the 3rd IMO.
How is this news lol? Pretty sure any console maker never minds if they can snag another consoles exclusive. Plus I am sure if square could port it over they would have. Either A. its a pain with the past proprietary Sony architecture and possibly not worth the money spent to do it or B. it is some sort of contractual restriction.
Over 1 year after that petition started it has under 2,000 signatures. That is why they have no desire to do it. Not enough interest.
Like Mass Effect didn't?
U know this is one game I don't think it make sense to release KH3 on X1 or KH HD collection on 360 not because I don't want everybody to experience KH series but because hardly not enough people will buy it on xbox as it's proven that xbox players only care about FPS 3rd person shooter and western RPG like mass effect. Plus it would just end up wasting money and development time as well. If u want to play KH games then just get a PS3 as it's pretty cheap now and plus it has even more amazing games on it u can play.
So, did you forget how well minecraft sold on Xbox? BEFORE PS3 ever got it? Did you forget how well Skylanders and Disney infinity sell? Obviously so. I think there is a much bigger market for Kingdom Hearts on Xbox than you will ever comprehend. Your statement is retarded... kind of like saying Mass Effect and Bioshock won't sell well on PS3, because people only wanna play JRPGs on a Sony console. But wait? They Sold amazingly well. OMFG that's impossible! <sarcasm> You are the blindest bat in the cave if you think Square Enix doesn't want every cent they can get. I mean, look at the Wii U getting Deus Ex:HR long after the PS3, PC, and 360. And with Tomb Raider being released on PS4, AND XBOX ONE, it's evident that Square Enix wants money, and would probably be willing to do it. I may be wrong, but to say it wouldn't succeed or sell well on the Microsoft consoles, when that's one of the only Sony/Nintendo exclusive series Xbox fans have wanted for a decade? yeah.... Your point is dead in it's stinky troll tracks.
The difference Kavorklestein, is that Minecraft, Skylanders ( what was once Spyro), and Disney were never on playstation only, for a long period, exclusively. Most people, I was one of them, had no clue that Skylanders is Spyro or it would definitely be skewed. Kingdom hearts has been exclusive for over 12 years. If you played it you had to have a PS2. (or gameboy). Minecraft people played on pc well before xbox. Your comparison is extremely flawed. Final Fantasy 13 sold a lot more on ps3. Most people that play those kinds of games own Playstation consoles.
Mkis FFXIII sold over 2 million copies on Xbox XD. And sure, the Ps3 had over 5 mill sold, but 2 million is 'nothing' Are you ****ing serious? 2 million sales alone is a huge achievement for any game. Forget 7 million. Really, some of the comments on this site are a joke. Is FFXIII on Xbox profitable? Yes or no? That's the only question that needs answering. The sales figures are right there. And KH is not an exclusive franchise. Also, i'd say there is a high chance for a Dev like SE to port over the HD version of it. For one, they're just Ps2 and handheld games upgraded to HD and made compatible with Ps3. It's not like they are as difficult to port as a Ps3 -> 360 game or vice versa. Now that KH3 is coming out on X1 the chance of a port is very high. Edit - Lets not forget, now that Nintendo have lost the casuals, the casuals and their kids will divide between Sony and MS. KH3 will sell on either system this gen. As Disney is Disney. XD Are you serious DarkZero? You really think 2 MILLION copied doesn't cover the cost of PORTING a game and then come back as profits tenfold? What a brilliant representative of the human race you are. Most devs can only dream of reaching 2 mill when developing for 3 platforms.
@Irishguy Point proven.... 5 million>>>> 2 million. That's far less incentive to waste resources porting a game over to the console where nobody cares. It still cost money to port to a console especially one with different architecture. Then you gotta pay employees and you got pay to produce disk then eventually pay to ship out.
@ Irish guy Don't put words in my mouth! I never said 2 million= nothing . Bad you! I fully expect a port sometime leading up to KH3 release. Barring any ps2 era exclusivity deal with Sony that is. You do make an intriguing point on the Disney characters being casual though. @Kavorklestein I don't know if you were out of bubbles or whatnot but I posted your pm to me in full because I found it hilarious! <<<<<<<& amp; amp; lt;<<<<<<&am p;lt ; < Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter dude. It doesn't EVER F****NG MATTER WHAT SYSTEM IT CAME OUT ON FIRST, Kojima's games abandoned being exclusive to Sony's whiny bitch asses for money before too, so get used to it. The difference between Xbox fans and Sony fans, is Sony fans throw a fit about EVERYTHING,even that that has nothing to do with their actual enjoyment of their playing games, and Xbox fans just man up and deal with what they get, and sure we all wish for some things, but you'd have to be a half-brain celled doofus to think less somehow equals more.... As far as Square Enix, It definitely would be seven thousand times more retarded for Square Enix to nerf their sales, and how many people get to enjoy the Kingdom Hearts franchise just to satisfy a bunch of spoiled Sony brats. If you were running a business, would you actually be pompous/oblivious enough to believe that limiting your sales to placate allegiance to a group of X amount of people for the hell of it would be more beneficial to your overall bottom line than broadening your market and sales by at least half?? As far as it not being worth it, we're talking two generations ago these games were made, development costs are not anywhere near as his as last gen, or next gen. In fact, the hard part has already been done,and a simple port of the HD KH games would suffice, and we should all know by know, that it's harder to develop for PS3 than xbox 360, so that's automatically more likely to be profitable per copy than the PS3 version. You are wrong in so many ways, it's not even funny. And yeah you whole argument about skylanders being spyro was a fail, and minecraft on pc has nothing to do with minecraft on xbox. In fact, if typical fanboy logic is to be used, shouldn't the xbox version of minecraft have sold ZERO copies since it was already out on pc? >>>>>>>& amp; amp; gt;>>>>>>&am p;gt ; >>> I think the petition actually makes Square more wary. in a year it was only able to gather 1,800 signatures!
Exactly these games are also PS2 exclusives. He only wants to do this because he knows how poopular this game is on PlayStation and wants KH3 to sell well on Xbox (since PlayStation fans know the story). But there's no doubt that the JRPG fans are on PlayStation, and even Nintendo consoles for that matter. But man, it makes me feel weird even thinking about KH3 being on the Xbone. Ughh...
@Kavor I think you're really missing the point here and your comparisons really don't apply. Yes saying xbox owners only want shooters and western RPGs is quite the oversimplification. Most multiplatform games sell pretty well on xbox, but the final fantasy XIII example just shows that the majority of the square-enix fans tend to own and, dare I say, prefer playing their games on playstation. You really don't have to point out that Square Enix is in it to make money, it's the same for literally any other company out there. The fact is that it most likely just would not be profitable enough for the time and resources to port it over. The game has been out for 12 freaking years. Released exclusively on a playstation platform, and the remake again released only on a Playstation platform. If you're a fan of the series well then you've damn well already played it. I think the fanbase for Kingdom Hearts being on Xbox is far less than you can comprehend because of you're blind fanboyism and immaturity.
so xbox finally wants something more than just FPS, oh wow lol.
Kingdom Hearts: Disney Warfare. Xbone exclusive published by EA.
what Phil Spencer needs to sign is a big fat check!!!
yeah, WTH is he thinking LOL! It's no like a petition cost anything. big fat check like how they secured Titanfall or it won't happen!
it could happen I guess.
Then why bother wasting resources and dumbing down the 3rd game for Xbox One? Why would somebody buy into the 3rd (yeah right, more like 8th) game in a franchise and the not the first or second HD ports then? If Phil Spencer wants it on Xbox then just get Microsoft to do what they always do and write a cheque.
Definitely is possible. Probably some exclusive deal worked out with Sony. Seeing as how the first 2 were exclusive to Sony. I have a feeling kind of like how FFXIII sold better on PS3, KH will too on PS4. BUT you never know. We shall see when it finally launches.
What a pointless load of bullcrap PR and shenanigans . If Spencer and co wanted it , they'd probably reach out to square enix . And chance are they maybe did with something in the work . And if he didnt , maybe he should instead of this . PS : got nothing against them getting the game , why not after all ? But it irks me seeing what i perceive as a pr machine from the involved xbox execs . They are in far better position than any fans to do something
This exactly, they would just get their checkbook out and pay up whatever they need too
It's all about getting fans to like them so that they get more personally attached to the brand. It's like when they Major Windbag said that he wanted to bring back Futurama as an Xbox Exclusive. It's not going to happen, but that sentence or two secured many new fans and upped the adoration of the old.
Sounds like they are copying Sony's approach towards the gamers. Not like it's a bad thing, but come on.. those boys didn't give a rats ass gamers existed until the huge backlash from those who know better, after the reveal of the X1.
Until Don Mattrick left.* seriously f*ck that guy. Phil Spencer was always friendly like this. Way before the X1 announcement. You could see that at all the previous E3's. He was always more gamer focused than Mattrick. Mattrick probably prevented him from doing what he wants to do for gamers. And now that he's in charge. He gets to do whatever the fuck he wants. He's been constantly hinting at remaking/rebooting games like Phantom Dust and Halo 2. If they murdered Sony in terms of quality games at E3 2013. E3 2014 is going to be a slaughterhouse because of this guy. Mark my words.
"What a pointless load of bullcrap PR and shenanigans . If Spencer and co wanted it , they'd probably reach out to square enix" Isn't that kinda what this is, reaching out?
No it isnt . he's a figurehead of MS games , if he actually want to reach out to publisher know to be in business with them on occasion , both exclusively or as a third independant party , he just does . Without the need and pretense of a petition . He's in a unique position of power , even if limited by potential greed of either his bosses or Square , or all of them . If he just want to support and encourage fans , he can also just do that , i dont see in the process that , but mostly PR . Just like i can't care much for Yoshida saying how nice it would be to have shenmue 3 ... Well they can do something about it , or at least truly try . Not just tweet or sign petitions
Don't the people here normally complain every time MS reaches out with money?
MS can't just simply tell Square to make a port of a game for their system. All they can do is either ask or show that they are interested in a port to their system, this is one way of showing it. How is this a PR stunt...or even shenanigans? Square has a set schedule, projects in development and other factors that may not permit them time to port over a version to the 360/X1. But at least Phil is showing his interest in the game. And yes Jason, everyone on this site complains that MS reaches out and steals exclusives or MS doesn't care about games. This site flip flops a lot.
Obviously Microsoft will get the collection. I actually think that there will be a re-release of KH 1.5 and KH 2.5 on PS4 and Xbox One. If not, the Xbox One will get it at least digitally. Microsoft won't allow to have KH 3 without releasing the entire collection, and if Spencer is already signing a petition, he might be in talks with Square Enix. So unless there is an exclusivity deal with Sony (which with Square Enix never matters) it will definitely come to the Xbox. (360 and/or One).
Just because Phil Spencer wants it does not guarantee it will be coming to Xbox. If Square really wanted to do it they would've released it on 360 alongside the PS3.
You are wrong, because it wasn't even considered until now, when KH3 has ALREADY been announced on the XB1. We are seeing the first signs of KH on xbox, and you are acting like it's not happening. When if you read the article, IS happening, for the first time..... DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@Kavorklsetin You obviously don't get my point. Square already made the decision to release this on PS3 exclusively and they have no plans on going back. KH 3 coming to XB1 don't mean squat except just that. That's like saying because MGSV is coming to Xbox One, Konami should consider releasing MGS4 on 360 and XB1 as well to have Xbox gamers know the whole story. But we both know that's not going to happen either.
I wish I could find the interview, but I recall the Nomura saying it was because it was more convenient for people to buy it on ps3. I believe he was referring to the Japanese market with that interview. It'd be nice to get them one xbox 360, but it's not the first collection it has missed due presumable to dvd size.
But then why would they announce KH 3 for Xbox. It doesn't make sense. They have to do something so that people with Xbox can know the story. Otherwise, it would have been just a dirty deal from Microsoft just to make Sony not have the exclusive.
@colonel simply because they can fit it on one disc without compromising the game.
there should be a deluded button on this site for comments like that. on topic - a psvita kingdom hearts would be epic
It wouldn't surprise me if Sony have entered into an exclusivity contract with Square. Remember that list of 21 major publishers Sony signed exclusive content with? That includes PS3, Vita and PS4. And it also ranges from full retail exclusives, to DLC. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0... I suspect Kingdom Hearts collections, and Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD are a part of this list of exclusive deals. And let's get real, do people really expect old Kingdom Hearts games to sell on Xbox, enough for it to be worth porting them? I understand Kingdom Hearts III is coming up and it would be great for Xbox fans to catch up, but i doubt the worth is there for Square. Along with those retail exclusives, I suspect KH3 and FFXV will have timed exclusive DLC on PS4. That is unless Microsoft chooses to get out their cheque book in futile and artificial efforts to gain traction in Japan.
Exclusive Content is not the same as Exclusive Games. Sony does have a lot of Exclusive content for games like AC4,Metal Gear and Destiny. But 21 exclusive content does not mean 21 exclusive games..
According to who exactly? Your comment here just makes it sound like you don't want it to be true, when it's perfectly feasible. Especially when PS4 is incredibly easy to make games for, Sony has a ton of good will with developers this generation, and their second and third party connections are as strong as ever.
Why not .. KH3 is coming to the X1 after all.
SE should release it on the Vita as well while they're at it.
I'm curious Maria, You keep posting Phil Spencer's tweets as full stories. Is that legit?
Apparently Maria can get away with things for Scot free. Why Maria has not been banned from making news reports is a complete mystery to me as she only reports things that'll cause "fanboy" arguments. A few weeks ago I submitted a news article about Microsoft buying these domains: Microsoft-Sony.com Sony-Microsoft.com The URL I used was to the documentation of the domains, the same method Maria has done for this tweet. Want to know what happened to that article, even though it was not a duplicate? It was banned, yet this article has not been banned. I smell something fishy with N4g...
What's the point...360 isn't even supported like that anymore
Sure you can sign a pointless petition but MS knows it would not sell so they would not give Square a dime to make it actually happen. I will not be surprised when PS4 KH3 is ouselling XBone version 3:1 and will not be because ReMixes were not on 360
Sorry but that is bullshit. If KH remix comes to Xbox 360. It is only logical that more people would buy KH3 for Xbox One.
Not a fps. Wouldn't sell worth the port.
No it won't. Don't delude yourself into thinking that. Remember FFXIII? Yeah,...that sold more on the PS3.
I am sorry but the logic is flawed in your argument to justify such a cost as porting it.
They might as well since KH3 is coming to X1.
wow why so many disagrees? if KH3 is coming to X1 wouldnt it make sense to release the HD collections on 360.
I don't know why you got so many disagrees, especially when Xbox gets Metal Gear Solid, and KH3. And if the tables were turned, sony fans would be optimistic for their console to get more games, IE: Maass Effect, Bioshock last gen. So don't feel bad, some people only wanna watch the world burn. And also, have a bubble!
Well, past JRPGs on the 360 have bombed, FF13 started oout great, then XIII-2 came and sold less than 500k on the 360. God knows how how much Lightning Returns will sell this time on the 360. We'll see how KH3 performs on the X1
Other JRPGS have done ok. Tales of Vesperia 600k for a tales game is not bad granted its a bit less than GracesF which sold like 800k. Star Ocean last hope on 360 sold slightly better on 360 than PS3. Lost Odyssey did around 800k as well. Numbers are from VGchartz granted its not the most reliable source its not totally wrong. The numbers don't rlly matter to me. just from a logical standpoint if SE is gonna put the 3rd installment of KH on X1 they should release the previous ones as well. Otherwise it makes almost no sense. Storywise some ppl would be totally lost.
Im pretty sure if those numbers you listed were true, we would've seen sequels to those games or atleast another game from SE or Namco.
Does he even know what kingdom hearts is? I see kh3 failing so hard on the xbox, the story is so convoluted just jumping in from 3 doesn't make sense.
Well for fans that have an Xbone, they should be happy to know they don't need a $400 console to get it. Will it sell well? Probably not. But would it hurt to release it on an extra platform when using little amount of resources? No.
I'm not sure how it has ever been established that everyone that played KH doesnt have an xbox or wont have an xb1 . people forget that for a while , and in absence of truly strong offering for both ps3/360 for a good chunk of their lives , the old ps2 fanbase was split between the two . Sure traditionally and with the way thing went for jrpg titles and japanese centric titles , the fans would be more present on ps3/ps4 , but they could still pass up decent sales on xbox . While big effort were put , it's still an old game remixed , not some big new game investment like probably KH3 .
Exactly, I played them before my Xbox days and would love to own them on it. I (and a gang of my friends) are not shooter freaks like some of these extremist would have you believe. Everyone should have a chance to play good games irregardless of the platform.
I think a lot of people are forgetting that the main ones came out on ps2, everyone had one and it's likely a lot of x-box players played them then and don't need the port to play KH3 if they are at all interested.
I think it's a good idea so Xbox gamers can experience the originals before 3 comes out. I owned the first 2 on PS2 and I have the HD Remix on PS3 now and think the games should be experienced by as many people as possible.
I have never seen an Xbox exclusive gamer say "I really wish I could play KH (or any JRPG for that matter)". KH seems like a game that mostly only thoughs that grew up with it love and if not they rarely see the appeal
I agree, the only reason I say they should have the first 2 is because they are getting KH3. If someone was a dedicated xbox gamer, they would be pretty lost picking up 3 without at least playing the main first 2.
I will up that saying I have never seen an exclusive gamer. Seriously do people actually only choose one game platform anymore? I have the Wii U and Xbox One, and am excited for KH3 and FFXV. In fact, the reason I chose Xbox 1 over PS4 the day after E3, was that Sony didn't say those two games were PS4 exclusive. If they had I might be playing the PS4 today instead of Xbox.
M$ trying to steal exclusives. even if it happens I doubt they will get any significant sales.
Signing a stupid petition is not what I would call trying.